At least Jessie Palmer thinks we're better

[HogGoneWild]

screw everyone else

[Hoggish1]

We are better.  Our record won't be much better, but I know we will be improved.

If we are better, why do you know our record won't be better...?  I mean, such thinking just doesn't make sense unless you think everybody else has gotten a lot better than is.  Is that what you think?

[Hog Milanese]

If we are better, why do you know our record won't be better...?  I mean, such thinking just doesn't make sense unless you think everybody else has gotten a lot better than us, in which case we will not have actually gotten better. 

Follow me?

It makes perfect sense. We also have the toughest schedule in the nation.

[HF#1]

You can tell which folks have done their homework and which ones are just judging by our 3-9 record last season. 

[fakebobholt]

You are your record. No woulda coulda shoulda. You cant win 3 or 4 and say you are improving. As for the schedule, this is the norm for us. newsflash, we play the toughest teams agin next year.

[HF#1]

You are your record. No woulda coulda shoulda. You cant win 3 or 4 and say you are improving. As for the schedule, this is the norm for us. newsflash, we play the toughest teams agin next year.

At this moment, yes we are a 3-9 team.  However I don't think it's very hard to tell that we have upgraded in some areas and have had a good spring and fall camp.

[HogGoneWild]

You are your record. No woulda coulda shoulda. You cant win 3 or 4 and say you are improving. As for the schedule, this is the norm for us. newsflash, we play the toughest teams agin next year.

You think BB could move us to the Big 10? We would dominate that conference

[hogville38]

If we are better, why do you know our record won't be better...?  I mean, such thinking just doesn't make sense unless you think everybody else has gotten a lot better than is.  Is that what you think?

It's our schedule this year and it makes perfect sense to me.

[Music City Hog]

Our schedule.  You can indeed be better and not have a better  record.  I mean we lost 52-7 and 52-0 to Carolina and Bama.   Cutting that in half would be better, but still losses.

And yes,  everyone else is also getting better. Not just us.

[wupigsuey]

If we are better, why do you know our record won't be better...?  I mean, such thinking just doesn't make sense unless you think everybody else has gotten a lot better than us, in which case we will not have actually gotten better. 

Follow me?

Well, no. If we were last in the SEC last year and everyone in the league got 40% better, we're still last in the league. We're still better but so is everyone else in this scenario.

[Ramtough]

At this moment, yes we are a 3-9 team.  However I don't think it's very hard to tell that we have upgraded in some areas and have had a good spring and fall camp.

I thought the spring looked bad and the fall was just your base defense and showed nothing on offense. Are we better this year??  I'll let you know at about 5 on Saturday afternoon if it takes that long. Who knows maybe Auburn lays an egg like South Carolina.

[PorkRinds]

Our schedule.  You can indeed be better and not have a better  record.  I mean we lost 52-7 and 52-0 to Carolina and Bama.   Cutting that in half would be better, but still losses.

And yes,  everyone else is also getting better. Not just us.

Everyone? So you're saying no team in the country has drop off? You think the South Carolina that played tonight could beat us 52-0? Not a snowballs chance.

[ShadowTheHedgehog]

Yeah Palmer is OK but can he totally zone-out at half time, not pay attention to any of the other commentators, and break the desk he is sitting at?

[Music City Hog]

Everyone? So you're saying no team in the country has drop off? You think the South Carolina that played tonight could beat us 52-0? Not a snowballs chance.

No I don't, because  I think we have improved.

[intelligence]

Everyone? So you're saying no team in the country has drop off? You think the South Carolina that played tonight could beat us 52-0? Not a snowballs chance.

That carolina team that played tonight would be destroyed by us. I think they'll get better though.

[DeltaBoy]

I respect Palmer.  He has a well-reasoned position, and makes a good point.  Unlike hacks such as Phil Steele, Finebaum, etc.

Yep Jessie and Mark May give us more respect and honest evaluations than anybody else.

[Biggus Piggus]

We're not really improved if we lose ground to our opposition. That's my view.

I expect the Hogs to be improved enough to show it in the form of victories.

[DeltaBoy]

We're not really improved if we lose ground to our opposition. That's my view.

I expect the Hogs to be improved enough to show it in the form of victories.

Yes improvement is only judged by me in Sports by more wins not Moral Victories.

[hawgon]

I honestly don't have a clue.  My natural hog optimism that takes over every single year at about this time, tells me that we will be better.  My intellect tells me that I have no way of determining that.

I think BB is a good coach and we'll get better.  I'm not a BB guy though because I think he is a 7 to 9 win kind of guy in the SEC and never, or almost never a 10 or 11 win kind of guy.  Just my impressions.  I might be wrong.

But anyway, six wins should be just about the minimum acceptable floor for any hog coach in any year.  This year, that would be great coaching.  In a couple or three years, it should get someone fired.

[holman24]

Hog fans have gotten so use to moral victories that is has become our measuring stick and that is all hog fans have.  BB is a good man and a good coach talk guy but as far as an elite coach he is not.  Some of his decisions last season made that very clear.  I just wish he would shut his mouth about everything but how our players and team are doing until he can show he can win in this conf.

[razorsharptusk]

Speaking of Coach speak.  I heard the discussion on drive time the other day that the Hogs closed practices that used to be open. They said it actually started toward the end of Nutt's tenure and got super enforced by Coach BP when he was here.  Thus, their point, and keep in mind they are media, being that Coach B. has pretty much disconnected the fans from the football team.  The only opinions we really get are the ones from coaches and a few hand picked players.   Do you guys think our expectations and opinions of our team would be the same, if we could have seen more practices and made up our own minds about where we are as a program as far as improvements go, vs. basing our judgment on predominantly coach speak? 

Does it make you feel like less of a fan when you can't go and watch your team practice?

[three hog night]

The real variable to our improvement on each side of the ball:

The unquantifiable variable on defense would be the improvement in our defense because of the press coverage giving the Def Line time to get pressure.   Our def line is good but was wasted last year because our corners allowed WR's to catch quick passes before the Dlef Lineman could get close to the QB.  Our LB's appear to be better and have added depth.

The real variable on offense is how much does the offense change when BA can make all the throws combined with the Oline improvements, and the WR's are bigger/better able to handle press coverage to get open quickly.   We have speed at WR that has been missing for 2 years.   Chaney would love to integrate some of his offense he had with Tyler Bray at UT.

[poloprince]

It makes perfect sense. We also have the toughest schedule in the nation.

SEC west is tough every year so........

[Atlhogfan1]

From a cynical viewpoint, Palmer may have been hyping the game he and Musburger are going to call next. 

Probably will have to mute the broadcast.  Musburger is too obnoxious. 

[popcornhog]

Everyone? So you're saying no team in the country has drop off? You think the South Carolina that played tonight could beat us 52-0? Not a snowballs chance.

No, because we've gotten better. SC looked like they've dropped off a bit, but it's the first game of the season so who knows.

A&M looked better than last year.

[HF#1]

Speaking of Coach speak.  I heard the discussion on drive time the other day that the Hogs closed practices that used to be open. They said it actually started toward the end of Nutt's tenure and got super enforced by Coach BP when he was here.  Thus, their point, and keep in mind they are media, being that Coach B. has pretty much disconnected the fans from the football team.  The only opinions we really get are the ones from coaches and a few hand picked players.   Do you guys think our expectations and opinions of our team would be the same, if we could have seen more practices and made up our own minds about where we are as a program as far as improvements go, vs. basing our judgment on predominantly coach speak? 

Does it make you feel like less of a fan when you can't go and watch your team practice?

Nick Saban closes everything.  I have no issue with it.  They aren't trying to fool us or pump sunshine. 

[hogsanity]

Does it make you feel like less of a fan when you can't go and watch your team practice?

No, I think MORE of the coach if he closes practice.  I have never understood the fascination with going and watching a team run drills, practicing the toss sweep over and over.  I have much better things to do with my time.

[Atlhogfan1]

Speaking of Coach speak.  I heard the discussion on drive time the other day that the Hogs closed practices that used to be open. They said it actually started toward the end of Nutt's tenure and got super enforced by Coach BP when he was here.  Thus, their point, and keep in mind they are media, being that Coach B. has pretty much disconnected the fans from the football team.  The only opinions we really get are the ones from coaches and a few hand picked players.   Do you guys think our expectations and opinions of our team would be the same, if we could have seen more practices and made up our own minds about where we are as a program as far as improvements go, vs. basing our judgment on predominantly coach speak? 

Does it make you feel like less of a fan when you can't go and watch your team practice?

No. Lived in Fay for years.  Rarely watched even a few minutes of practice. 

When the practices were open, we were fed more crap by the leeches like Henry, Dawson and Kirk who oversold players and teams. 

I don't know why anyone would base judgment on coach speak. 

[MemphisBossHog]

From a cynical viewpoint, Palmer may have been hyping the game he and Musburger are going to call next. 

Probably will have to mute the broadcast.  Musburger is too obnoxious.

I saw Jesse talking about the Hogs and unfortunately, I believe he was hyping up the next game that he and Brent would be calling.  They have to do their best to make it seem like its gonna be a close game so that people will tune in and they will generate ratings.

Jesse may actually believe what he was saying.  We may never know, but what it looked like was Jesse was given the job of touting Arkansas and make an argument that they have improved.  Brent's job was to say a little something about Auburn and with that, the SEC Network was officially on to  the next game. 

The Hogs have a tremendous opportunity to "shock the college football world" on Saturday.  Auburn is #6 in the nation coming off an appearance in the NC game last year.  Their fans are rabid.  Jordan-Hare will be rocking.  This is Arkansas's chance to get on the road to being relevant. None of the pundits are going to just give us love and respect.  It will have to be earned.  Hogs can go a long way to earning it on Saturday on the Plains.