When was the last time we won as a 20 pt + underdog?

[Nipsey Mussle]

Anyone have an idea of when that was? That's what it would take to beat Auburn (unless the spread goes down between now and then). I like our chances to cover a 20+ spread and will likely bet it if it stays around that area. I don't like our chances to win but anything can happen the first week of the season.

[trashcan maN]

2007 LSU game?

[boaron]

I'd be willing to risk some on the Hogs with that spread if I had a bookie.  That's too many points IMO.

[moses_007]

The 2000 Cotton Bowl against Texas.  Arkansas wasn't expected to even show up, and we whipped their a$$es goooooooooooooood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5yrlNE4D8

[Hawgey-Davidson]

I'm betting the farm on the Hogs! Beats the odds of winning the lottery. Can't wait for Saturday! GHG!! 1-0!

[popcornhog]

2007 LSU game?

Can't find a link but I'm pretty sure that one was in the teens.

[popcornhog]

The 2000 Cotton Bowl against Texas.  Arkansas wasn't expected to even show up, and we whipped their a$$es goooooooooooooood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5yrlNE4D8

Awesome game, I was there.

I believe that as like a 9 point spread though. Definitely not 20.

Can't open the video, I'm on a plane. Internet can't stream videos. Does the video say it was a 20 pt spread?

[onebadrubi]

So let me get this right.  If you want to bet that the hogs win or keep it under 20 you take the hogs and the points?  Is that how you make that bet?

[lefty08]

So let me get this right.  If you want to bet that the hogs win or keep it under 20 you take the hogs and the points?  Is that how you make that bet?

If u are betting the spread and you take the hogs, essentially the game start 20-0 arkansas. Thats correct

[Locutus_of_Boar]

Arkansas was an 18 point underdog to Oklahoma in the 78 Orange Bowl.

[HF#1]

That spread is a setup...  Lots of folks will lose money on this game.  Smart folks will take Arkansas and the points.

[lefty08]

I haven't done any research, but to be honest with you, i would think the last time we were that big of an underdog was a long, long time ago, regardless of win or loss

[TheRazorback500]

The 2000 Cotton Bowl against Texas.  Arkansas wasn't expected to even show up, and we whipped their a$$es goooooooooooooood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5yrlNE4D8

If our defense could play even close to this well against the Tigers, we'd cover the spread and maybe even contend for the win.

[fakebobholt]

Vegas for the most part get it right or very close most of the time. I dont think its an indictment on what they think about us but more on how good they will be. If we dont keep their backup qb in check (marshall) it will be a long game. I think we easily cover but I quit betting on the hogs YEARS ago.

[HogFanatic]

I haven't done any research, but to be honest with you, i would think the last time we were that big of an underdog was a long, long time ago, regardless of win or loss

I'm pretty sure we were at LEAST a 20 point dog last season to Alabama.

Also, I agree that the line is a setup. No way the Hogs lose by three touchdowns

[lefty08]

Vegas for the most part get it right or very close most of the time. I dont think its an indictment on what they think about us but more on how good they will be. If we dont keep their backup qb in check (marshall) it will be a long game. I think we easily cover but I quit betting on the hogs YEARS ago.

about the same time you quit cheering for them?

[HogFanatic]

Vegas for the most part get it right or very close most of the time. I dont think its an indictment on what they think about us but more on how good they will be. If we dont keep their backup qb in check (marshall) it will be a long game. I think we easily cover but I quit betting on the hogs YEARS ago.

Vegas is wrong plenty of times every year. They probably have an even worse track record in the first few weeks of the season. Just like everyone else they are going off of last year's performance and cannot follow each and every team during the off season to determine an accurate picture of how teams are going to play in week one.

Moreover, the lines are just set up a certain way to get money moving. If they came out and said Auburn is going to win by 100 points, nobody would take Auburn...

[lefty08]

I should apologize FakeBobHolt, that was maybe a little harsh. Just thought sattire accounts should be funny and not just gloomy

[Hawgey-Davidson]

Yeah, its a money line. Be interesting to watch this line move as the days get closer to kick off. If I was a betting man, I would get on it NOW. You can bet your bibby that close to kick off (again where money line moves) that your not gonna get 18-20 pt line on Hogs. Hell, it might even go off the board. My .02 cents.

[HogFanatic]

Yeah, its a money line. Be interesting to watch this line move as the days get closer to kick off. If I was a betting man, I would get on it NOW. You can bet your bibby that close to kick off (again where money line moves) that your not gonna get 18-20 pt line on Hogs. Hell, it might even go off the board. My .02 cents.

It actually MAY go off the board. The line itself won't move much more. What they will do as it gets closer to kickoff, if everyone starts picking the Hogs, is they will just remove the option to bet it at all. The line itself will probably only move another 2 or 3 points MAXIMUM.

[Hawgey-Davidson]

Yeah, its a money line. Be interesting to watch this line move as the days get closer to kick off. If I was a betting man, I would get on it NOW. You can bet your bibby that close to kick off (again where money line moves) that your not gonna get 18-20 pt line on Hogs. Hell, it might even go off the board. My .02 cents.

Disclaimer- For entertainment purposes only. Carry on.

[VidPig]

Topbet.eu is giving 21 PTs...

[jgphillips3]

I'm thinking Auburn by 14-17 at worst.  Auburn is not going to cover that 20 point spread.

[alwaysnextyear]

Auburn is gonna come out guns blazing. You all are setting yourselves up for a major disappointment. This would be the biggest upset in my lifetime.

[HF#1]

If Auburn can cover that spread with their defense, I'm not sure Bielema will be allowed the time it will take to get us back to where we should be.  I firmly believe we aren't that bad of a football team.

[Pigdiana Jones]

Why can't we go back to those traditional uniforms like they had back then.... I don't like the new style.

Also, I wish we could get back to a defense like that in that cotton bowl. That is a defense to be proud of!

I also forgot how good and how fast Cobbs was!

[Hogwild]

I haven't done any research, but to be honest with you, i would think the last time we were that big of an underdog was a long, long time ago, regardless of win or loss

The last game we played LSU was 24.5 point favorite.

[HiggiePiggy]

2007 LSU game?

http://www.point-spreads.com/college-football/112307-college-football-picks-lsu-tigers-vs-arkansas-razorbacks.html

13 and a half favorites.

[lefty08]

The last game we played LSU was 24.5 point favorite.

Last year?  No kidding?  Guess I stand corrected.  Thats pretty amazing

[mckinneyhog5]

Ive already put a nickel (if you know what I mean) on the hogs +21.

[Nipsey Mussle]

2007 LSU game?

I see below someone says that was 13.5. I was born in '81, that may be the biggest spread we've beaten in my lifetime. Incredible game

[Nipsey Mussle]

I haven't done any research, but to be honest with you, i would think the last time we were that big of an underdog was a long, long time ago, regardless of win or loss

I would think USC was a bigger favorite than 20 against us, or no?

[Bacon_Bitz]

The last game we played LSU was 24.5 point favorite.

That's awesome.  That's the last game we played.  We looked pretty good.  Not only did we cover the spread, but we should've won that game! 

[RazorFlix]

Vegas is wrong plenty of times every year. They probably have an even worse track record in the first few weeks of the season. Just like everyone else they are going off of last year's performance and cannot follow each and every team during the off season to determine an accurate picture of how teams are going to play in week one.

Moreover, the lines are just set up a certain way to get money moving. If they came out and said Auburn is going to win by 100 points, nobody would take Auburn...

If you think Vegas doesn't follow each and every news bit, injury status, etc you are sadly mistaken.  Do you realize how much money is at stake for each game?  They have people researching this stuff just like hedge funds have financial wiz analysts.

[onebadrubi]

Anyone taking te over at 57.5 points?  I would think it would take over 30 to win the game, maybe even high 30's.  I don't see a 28-17 type game.

[hoghappy]

It all depends on our defense. If we are improved, we should hold them to around 24. I say we cover that line.

[alohawg]

If Auburn covers easily, the pitchforks will be drawn and all of the patience talk will cease. Hogs are not that far below these guys.

[Modsquad24]

Everyone acts like its so far fetched that we are picked to lose by 21....well didn't we lose by 18 to them at home just last yr?

[Hogsnort]

Arkansas was a 15 point underdog going into the game against Auburn in 2006. The Razorbacks won 27-10.

[PorkSoda]

2007 LSU game?

sounds about the last time we beat any spread.

Hogs are too damn unpredictable when it comes to spreads.

[LZH]

Tennessee in '92?

[Iwastherein1969]

Arkansas was an 18 point underdog to Oklahoma in the 78 Orange Bowl.

this is what most people think...but the ARK  +18 is not quite the total truth, yes the line opened at ARK +18 but money poured in on OU...Las Vegas was taking bets and the line went even as high as 27 at some book makers (this happened when rumors surfaced when, as a show of solidarity with Cowins, Forrest and Bobo, fellow African Americans on the team were not going to play).... soon after word of a potential boycott along with threatened litigation by famed Little Rock Civil Rights attorney John Walker of Little Rock, is when the point spread soared into the mid 20's...and at that point, the Orange Bowl was taken off the board and no more betting was allowed by bookmakers in the state of Nevada...the final line was actually around 25 before Las Vegas would take no more money on the game

[LZH]

this is what most people think...but the ARK  +18 is not quite the total truth, yes the line opened at ARK +18 but money poured in on OU...Las Vegas was taking bets and the line went even as high as 27 at some book makers....at that point, the Orange Bowl was taken off the board and no more betting was allowed by bookmakers in the state of Nevada...the final line was actually around 25 before Las Vegas would take no more money on the game

Yeah there was a link on here not long ago to an article that said the same thing....I think it was 24 points by kickoff.

[Iwastherein1969]

Yeah there was a link on here not long ago to an article that said the same thing....I think it was 24 points by kickoff.

the reason I remember this so well is that Razorback fans, after the game, were streaming out of the Orange Bowl were chanting, "Give OU twenty five points, we'll still play them".....I was 16 at the time and attended the game with my parents and my most vivid memory was how quiet Sooner fans were after the game....drunk Hog fans gave them more than a little hell, still, the Sooner fans were way more concerned with getting out of the ghetto that the Orange Bowl sat in than arguing with Hog fans

[The Kig]

this is what most people think...but the ARK  +18 is not quite the total truth, yes the line opened at ARK +18 but money poured in on OU...Las Vegas was taking bets and the line went even as high as 27 at some book makers (this happened when rumors surfaced when, as a show of solidarity with Cowins, Forrest and Bobo, fellow African Americans on the team were not going to play).... soon after word of a potential boycott along with threatened litigation by famed Little Rock Civil Rights attorney John Walker of Little Rock, is when the point spread soared into the mid 20's...and at that point, the Orange Bowl was taken off the board and no more betting was allowed by bookmakers in the state of Nevada...the final line was actually around 25 before Las Vegas would take no more money on the game

Vegas cleaned house by taking that game off the board.  The main goal they have with with any game is to get half the money on each side of the game and their margin is the juice.  They take a game down when they feel exposed on one side, especially where moving the line that much doesn't change the action.

Make no mistake, they celebrate these big hauls, but are nervous as mice in a cat store till its over.  Most bookies I have talked to don't truly care whether you win or lose, they just want balanced action... Even to the point of laying off on another "partner" to keep it even. 

[lefty08]

Vegas cleaned house by taking that game off the board.  The main goal they have with with any game is to get half the money on each side of the game and their margin is the juice.  They take a game down when they feel exposed on one side, especially where moving the line that much doesn't change the action.

Make no mistake, they celebrate these big hauls, but are nervous as mice in a cat store till its over.  Most bookies I have talked to don't truly care whether you win or lose, they just want balanced action... Even to the point of laying off on another "partner" to keep it even.

Its true, vegas numbers are more about what the public thinks will happen, not their experts

[Biggus Piggus]

This is a unique situation, because Arkansas has never begun a season as a 20+ point underdog.

All the point spread on this game shows is how many people wanted to bet on Auburn. The line is set at the level necessary to balance the bets. Vegas is taking advantage of the willingness of Auburn fans to overpay.

[The Hogfather]

@ #2 Auburn in '06?

[The Hogfather]

All the point spread on this game shows is how many people wanted to bet on Auburn. The line is set at the level necessary to balance the bets.

Way too few people understand this concept.

[The Hogfather]

Its true, vegas numbers are more about what the public thinks will happen, not their experts

Precisely.