Listening to the majority of HV posters

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

We would be better off forfeiting the 2014 season.

I'm in the minority.

I strongly believe we go bowling this year.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Thanks for sharing.

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

Thanks for sharing.

No es problema

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Listening?  Are you blind and have an app that reads all the posts to you? The while listening tally all the posts predicting 5-7 or worse then all of those predicting 6-6 or better then sum then then calculate the % of each. That's quite impressive and makes me feel good about contributing to the Lions club.

But is it a simple majority like 50.1% to 49.9% overwhelming majority super majority. Since you are so dialed in to the pulse of Hogville and have run the numbers should be easy to say. Maybe do a pie chart

[popcornhog]

We would be better off forfeiting the 2014 season.

I'm in the minority.

I strongly believe we go bowling this year.

I don't think there really is a majority opinion. But a plurality are probably saying 6-6 and the liberty bowl. Or 5-7 and continued improvement.

Hell, there's a size able group that expects to beat AU and get right or nine wins.

I'm in the 6-6 camp.

[LZH]

Yeah, I don't get it either....I'm in for 7-5.  If we don't break .500, I might even say something negative about our coach.

It could actually happen.

[intelligence]

We would be better off forfeiting the 2014 season.

I'm in the minority.

I strongly believe we go bowling this year.

I hear ya on that. Honestly, i don't have opinion. I could see us going 8-5 or better if the defense is good and brandon allen can handle business at qb. If those things don't happen, im not sure we win a single game in conference play. I'm hoping and praying brandon allen can summon his inner  :razorback: and everything will be gravy

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Honestly, it's what you probably should expect. Last year was bad for a lot of reasons but we lost one or two games that we should have won. I expect us to be much better this year but don't neccesarily think the W's & L's will be the truest barometer of the teams progression. If we get 6 I'll be pleased. If we get more I'll be estatic. If we win less I will let the way we got to that record be the deciding factor in my opinion.

[popcornhog]

Honestly, it's what you probably should expect. Last year was bad for a lot of reasons but we lost one or two games that we should have won. I expect us to be much better this year but don't neccesarily think the W's & L's will be the truest barometer of the teams progression. If we get 6 I'll be pleased. If we get more I'll be estatic. If we win less I will let the way we got to that record be the deciding factor in my opinion.

Samezies

[TomasPistola]

Everyone seems to think we'd save everyone a lot of time, trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves...

[intelligence]

Honestly, it's what you probably should expect. Last year was bad for a lot of reasons but we lost one or two games that we should have won. I expect us to be much better this year but don't neccesarily think the W's & L's will be the truest barometer of the teams progression. If we get 6 I'll be pleased. If we get more I'll be estatic. If we win less I will let the way we got to that record be the deciding factor in my opinion.

Well put

[Peter Porker]

I don't get the "we will be better, but it might not show up in wins" statement. It's a real popular one though. It'd make sense if in our 9 losses last year we were blown out by 50 each game, but we weren't. We were competitive in several of those losses with real opportunities to win. We are a better team than last year. Some of our opponents may have gotten better too, but some of them have not. Some have gotten worse. We will win all of our OOC games. We will win 3-4 SEC games. We will go to a bowl game. (This all depends on injuries obviously)

[1highhog]

We would be better off forfeiting the 2014 season.

I'm in the minority.

I strongly believe we go bowling this year.

I must say I'm impressed you've taken the time to do a comparative study on just how many in each category has said 6-6 or better, 5-7 or worse, or this other group I've yet to see that has said we need to forfeit this season.

I've said on many occasion that I'm sticking to 5-7, with a chance of going 6-6.  So what category did you put me in, and how many times since we've had this same polled question asked a dozen different times on here.  By the way, is it game week yet, anyone, anyone? Bueller?

[Go hogs go]

Our seasons has always and will always hinge on cb, qb and we play. From what I've read and seen they have improved at all three positions. How much they have improved will decide how good are record is. I have no idea how good of a team will be the year but I know we will be improved from last year. Also remember every year there's one or two teams that are hyped up that disappoint. I'm going into this season expecting improvement and I bet we win at least two games that know thought we would win. Go hogs go

[harrisburghog]

Just going to a bowl game should no longer be a measure of success, with all the bowl games there are now it doesn't take much to make one.

[lefty08]

Just going to a bowl game should no longer be a measure of success, with all the bowl games there are now it doesn't take much to make one.

The qualifications are the same as they have always been. 6 wins have always got you to a bowl game in this conference. Nice try though

[3kgthog]

Just going to a bowl game should no longer be a measure of success, with all the bowl games there are now it doesn't take much to make one.

It actually must take a lot since we couldn't even win 1 conference game.

That's what we're stuck with with BB.  He'll often snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because he makes stupid game decisions. Get ready for the roller coaster.

[Hogarusa]

It would be real silly for the University of Arkansas to forfeit an entire season due to posts on a message board.  I dont even know if thats allowed

[harrisburghog]

As far as needing six wins to make a bowl game there have  been in the past and there are now teams that qualify that don't deserve to be there. Winning six to go play in the Poduck Bowl against Peon U just doesn't mean much. If your happy with that then the bar has sunk pretty low for this program.

[Hogarusa]

The qualifications are the same as they have always been. 6 wins have always got you to a bowl game in this conference. Nice try though

There were 19 bowl games in 1990, 25 in 2000, and in 2014 there will be 39.  Meanwhile D1 programs have decreased in size from 138 when the split happened in 1978 to 125 for 2014.  When 3 of your wins are Nicholls State, UAB, and N Illinois (all at home) then no, your measure of improvement shouldnt be making it to a bowl game.

[Cinco de Hogo]

Reading a lot of the post on Hogville I think we should forfeit the second half of the season so we don't exceed expectations and put undue pressure on the coaches to win the SEC on 2015.

LOL!

[three hog night]

Honestly, it's what you probably should expect. Last year was bad for a lot of reasons but we lost one or two games that we should have won. I expect us to be much better this year but don't neccesarily think the W's & L's will be the truest barometer of the teams progression. If we get 6 I'll be pleased. If we get more I'll be estatic. If we win less I will let the way we got to that record be the deciding factor in my opinion.

Very nicely done.

[Mike Irwin]

You've got "majority" and "minority" backwards. The majority of people posting here have a cautious but positive view of the upcoming season.

[The Hogfather]

7-5 + Bowl Win = 8-5

[Inhogswetrust]

It actually must take a lot since we couldn't even win 1 conference game.

That's what we're stuck with with BB.  He'll often snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because he makes stupid game decisions. Get ready for the roller coaster.

There are always highs and lows in sports and being a fan.....................If you can't enjoy the ride then get off.

[Inhogswetrust]

You've got "majority" and "minority" backwards. The majority of people posting here have a cautious but positive view of the upcoming season.

Put me in that majority.

[Piggfoot]

You've got "majority" and "minority" backwards. The majority of people posting here have a cautious but positive view of the upcoming season.

I approach every new season and every Hog game in this manner. Things change from year to year and game to game. Few people know  how teams will stack up against each other.....Vegas come closer to predicting than most.

[Inhogswetrust]

Everyone seems to think we'd save everyone a lot of time, trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves...

Maybe they should put one of these in the locker room:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwpQDv03FsE

[Inhogswetrust]

Maybe do a pie chart

Apple, Pecan or Frito?

[Hogwild]

As far as needing six wins to make a bowl game there have  been in the past and there are now teams that qualify that don't deserve to be there. Winning six to go play in the Poduck Bowl against Peon U just doesn't mean much. If your happy with that then the bar has sunk pretty low for this program.

#1 Bowls are important, it gives the team 20 extra practice dates and it allows teams to build positive momentum for the next season.

#2 I don't think anyone is happy with where the program is at, with the exception of few Gus lovers. However reaching a bowl with our current team and schedule will be a major accomplishment for the program.

[GolfnHog]

Honestly, it's what you probably should expect. Last year was bad for a lot of reasons but we lost one or two games that we should have won. I expect us to be much better this year but don't neccesarily think the W's & L's will be the truest barometer of the teams progression. If we get 6 I'll be pleased. If we get more I'll be estatic. If we win less I will let the way we got to that record be the deciding factor in my opinion.

Spot on! It all starts w/ Auburn. I think we have a barometer to start judging our thought processes with that game. Granted, it's a small sample size but it could be very telling.

[Swineasaur]

I don't know what you look at but most the post I see are claiming wins over Auburn and Bama. Lol

[Mike Irwin]

College football is difficult to predict even for people who live, eat and breathe it. Who could have foreseen Auburn's complete turnaround last year?

There are plenty of people who claimed they knew Arkansas would be awful but I didn't hear anybody a year ago predicting zero SEC wins before the season started.

I've been doing this for 40 years. I say a lot of things in the four or five months between spring ball and the season opener. I try to base what I report on the best available information. However, EVERY SINGLE YEAR as I'm getting ready to watch the opening kickoff of the season, I'm thinking to myself, Well Irwin, what the hell is going to happen now?

I don't really know.

I've got to believe that many fans go through the same thing. If they really don't know then being positive or being negative before the season starts is a personal choice. Fans I've been around over the years including friends of mine, generally choose to be positive.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

I don't get the "we will be better, but it might not show up in wins" statement. It's a real popular one though. It'd make sense if in our 9 losses last year we were blown out by 50 each game, but we weren't. We were competitive in several of those losses with real opportunities to win. We are a better team than last year. Some of our opponents may have gotten better too, but some of them have not. Some have gotten worse. We will win all of our OOC games. We will win 3-4 SEC games. We will go to a bowl game. (This all depends on injuries obviously)

Schedule is more difficult. That is part of it.

[alohawg]

I'm as usual, cautiously optimistic.......just want to be over .500 with a couple nice upsets and no blowout losses this year.

[hogsanity]

Is predicting 6-6 saying we should forfeit the season?  I would say, of people posting a prediction on HV, the majority is right around 6-6.  When you look at the schedule, that is the conclusion that I come to.  I think they win all 4 ooc games ( TT is this years rutgers game ) then pick up a win against one of the MS schools, and either GA or A&M.  I just don't think the defense is deep enough or experienced enough to win at Auburn, or beat Bama anywhere.  Lose at Mizzu, and I also think LSU is just too talented. 

[RT1941]

Just going to a bowl game should no longer be a measure of success, with all the bowl games there are now it doesn't take much to make one.

But it damn sure pays off the make a bowl.  It extends the season and more importantly gets the players/coaches more practice time when other teams are sitting on their ass.  Making a bowl game even as a 6-6 team has benefits and damn sure outweighs not making one.

[Pigsknuckles]

After the past two seasons you can't blame the faithful for tempering their expectations. Only a few here really need to be coaxed away from the cliff.

[Swineasaur]

Really all BB has to do is make 3-4 wins with one being in the SEC to keep his arse off the burners. Long believes in Burt, but you can't go Ofer in the sec 2 years straight and not have any heat. Imo

[Peter Porker]

Schedule is more difficult. That is part of it.

2013 vs 2014         advantage
Samford vs. Nichols        even
Southern Miss vs UAB      USM
ULL vs NIU                      even
Texas Tech vs Rutgers     even
A&M vs A&M                2013 A&M
LSU vs LSU                   2013 LSU
Bama vs Bama             2013 Bama
Auburn vs Auburn        2013 Auburn
Ole Miss vs Ole Miss    2014 Ole Miss
Miss St vs Miss St.       2014 Miss St.
SCAR vs Mizzou          SCAR
Florida vs UGA.              UGA

[IntegrityHog]

We would be better off forfeiting the 2014 season.

I'm in the minority.

I strongly believe we go bowling this year.

GREAT post.  I totally agree! 

+1 to you.

WPS!!!!!  #1=0!!!!!!

[EastexHawg]

I don't get the "we will be better, but it might not show up in wins" statement.

It's easy to understand.  It's called hedging your bet...or lowering expectations, whichever you prefer.  It's a way to be "right" even if you are wrong.

I'm not making any predictions.  I'll just let the season play out and make assessments on what actually happens, not what other people and I think might happen.

[LZH]

Really all BB has to do is make 3-4 wins with one being in the SEC to keep his arse off the burners. Long believes in Burt, but you can't go Ofer in the sec 2 years straight and not have any heat. Imo

Not even close.  If Bielema only wins one SEC game this year, I guarantee you he'll be coaching for his job next season.

[PygmalionEffect]

Not even close.  If Bielema only wins one SEC game this year, I guarantee you he'll be coaching for his job next season.

Well, he could win one SEC game and end up 5-7, so that wouldn't put him on the hot seat at all, assuming the SEC losses are competitive and he eliminates the 30+ point shellackings.  Actually that would be measurable progress.

Plus it's been mentioned on here several times that the contract makes it financially unfeasible that he could be let go within the first five years no matter what the record.

Obviously no one would be happy or satisfied with one SEC win in two years and the criticism would certainly ratchet up in year 3, justifiably so.

But coaching for his job?  No

[Swineasaur]

Not even close.  If Bielema only wins one SEC game this year, I guarantee you he'll be coaching for his job next season.

Do you see who our AD is? Long wouldn't want to put him on the hot seat if he went 0-12, if he gets to 4-8 with one sec victory that at least gives Long a crutch for not giving him the axe.

[LZH]

Well, he could win one SEC game and end up 5-7, so that wouldn't put him on the hot seat at all, assuming the SEC losses are competitive and he eliminates the 30+ point shellackings.  Actually that would be measurable progress.

Plus it's been mentioned on here several times that the contract makes it financially unfeasible that he could be let go within the first five years no matter what the record.

Well, yeah you're right about the 5-7 thing.  But say the only teams we beat are Nicholls State, UAB, and Miss State....I can't see (contract or not) how he could keep his job with another losing season in 2015.

I do admit that I have no idea how his buyout is scheduled over the next few years, and if I ever did I sure don't remember now.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Well, he could win one SEC game and end up 5-7, so that wouldn't put him on the hot seat at all, assuming the SEC losses are competitive and he eliminates the 30+ point shellackings.  Actually that would be measurable progress.

Plus it's been mentioned on here several times that the contract makes it financially unfeasible that he could be let go within the first five years no matter what the record.

Some think he is already on the hot seat.

http://coacheshotseat.com/

[Swineasaur]

Some think he is already on the hot seat.

http://coacheshotseat.com/

....Nick Saban is on that list also

[PonderinHog]

....Nick Saban is on that list also

I'd hate to be him...

[Cinco de Hogo]

2013 vs 2014         advantage
Samford vs. Nichols        even
Southern Miss vs UAB      USM
ULL vs NIU                      even
Texas Tech vs Rutgers     even
A&M vs A&M                2013 A&M
LSU vs LSU                   2013 LSU
Bama vs Bama             2013 Bama
Auburn vs Auburn        2013 Auburn
Ole Miss vs Ole Miss    2014 Ole Miss
Miss St vs Miss St.       2014 Miss St.
SCAR vs Mizzou          SCAR
Florida vs UGA.              UGA

So it isn't tougher it's just "still tough".  That's incouraging!