Vanover is a big deal

[The Recruiting Guy]

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2014/aug/05/vanover-big-deal/

[Hogimus Prime]

If he keeps developing it be fun to watch him in MA's system.  Protecting the rim and trailing on a break with the ability to hit the 3.

[Pickwick Hog]

Holy crap. He's going to be a baller.

[The_Iceman]

He just needs to eat!

[Hawg Red]

If he keeps developing it be fun to watch him in MA's system.  Protecting the rim and trailing on a break with the ability to hit the 3.

Will need to gain considerable mobility and quickness to be effective in Anderson's system. Kid has a long way to go. It will be interesting to see what he looks like as a senior.

[gmarv]

good grief is he just 14, seems to move really well for such a youngun thats so tall.

[ifghog]

He really has a nice shot.

[Peppa Pig]

Wow.  Very impressive and probably still growing.  How tall are his mom and dad??

[Hogimus Prime]

Wow.  Very impressive and probably still growing.  How tall are his mom and dad??

The article said both were 6'3" and that he had to twin brothers that were 6'10 and 7' tall.

[yraciv]

Wow.  Very impressive and probably still growing.  How tall are his mom and dad??

Read the article, both are 6'3. Has two twin brother that are 17 and 6'10 and 7'1.

[yraciv]

Here is video of his brother that is going into his JR year.  He doesn't look like a prospect for us, but he also is 6'10 and weighs 230 so I'd like to think the kid could put on some more weight. Either way that front line is going to be tough to handle in 3A.

[Ironhawg]

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2014/aug/05/vanover-big-deal/

7-1 and 180?  That youngster is so skinny he is see-through!

[Cinco de Hogo]

Looks like the makings of a great young player who is committed to achieving his dream.  I want the best for him and in most cases would believe he could achieve that at Arkansas.  However. After several attempts with players like this in the Richardson/Anderson system I can't say if I would advice him to commit to Arkansas vs teams like Kansas or Duke if he had the opportunity. 

I don't see that as a negative toward Coach Anderson just a view from the cheap seats.

[ArkansasI]

Looks like the makings of a great young player who is committed to achieving his dream.  I want the best for him and in most cases would believe he could achieve that at Arkansas.  However. After several attempts with players like this in the Richardson/Anderson system I can't say if I would advice him to commit to Arkansas vs teams like Kansas or Duke if he had the opportunity. 

I don't see that as a negative toward Coach Anderson just a view from the cheap seats.

Very cheap.

That's like saying Dwight Stewart didn't play well in Nolan's system.  I think he (and we) did OK.

Go Hogs!

[Cinco de Hogo]

Very cheap.

That's like saying Dwight Stewart didn't play well in Nolan's system.  I think he (and we) did OK.

Go Hogs!

Gosh man I missed the similarities, sorry!

If we were playing a team with him on it a few years from now I can guarentee you I wouldnt be afraid if we had Dwight or Big O.

[yraciv]

Very cheap.

That's like saying Dwight Stewart didn't play well in Nolan's system.  I think he (and we) did OK.

Go Hogs!

Completely different players.  We had Jason Jennings, but he was a huge 7 footer without a jump shot  The only comparable player I can think of is Vincent Hunter, and he wasn't near as tall.  That being said he looks like a young Frank Kaminsky to me.  If he turns into that there will certainly be a spot.  No way to tell how the young man's game develops at this point.

[Hawg Red]

No way to tell how the young man's game develops at this point.

[secneahog]

He's just a kid, let the guy play and not worry about his weight. Older he gets the weight will come. Nice touch on his jumper.

[choppedporkextrasauce]

He's just a kid, let the guy play and not worry about his weight. Older he gets the weight will come. Nice touch on his jumper.

It did for Shaq

[Rzback]

Can he make free throws?

[Birminghog]

7-1 and 180?  That youngster is so skinny he is see-through!

But 7-1 at 14 years old?  Hokey smokes, Bullwinkle!

[LRRandy]

The article said both were 6'3" and that he had to twin brothers that were 6'10 and 7' tall.

his mom was a lady razorback.

[Ironhawg]

But 7-1 at 14 years old?  Hokey smokes, Bullwinkle!

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Has he stopped growing in height?

[jackflash]

If I was Anderson I would offer him now.

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

If I was Anderson I would offer him now.

Thank god you're not.  None of those Vanover kids have the athleticism needed for our system.  But holy smokes all 3 of them on the court at the same time could make for some crazy youtube videos against the tiny schools. 

[LJHOG]

From the little film available I'd say that at this point he has a nice shot and that's about it.   And he needs to play against top-flight competition.

[choppedporkextrasauce]

Thank god you're not.  None of those Vanover kids have the athleticism needed for our system.  But holy smokes all 3 of them on the court at the same time could make for some crazy youtube videos against the tiny schools.

At 14 years of age it's really hard to say if he does or doesn't have the athleticism. He sure as hell has size.

[Hawg Red]

At 14 years of age it's really hard to say if he does or doesn't have the athleticism. He sure as hell has size.

It's not hard to see that he looks very stiff.

[Nipsey Mussle]

At 14 years of age it's really hard to say if he does or doesn't have the athleticism. He sure as hell has size.

I'm definitely in the camp of "He's 14, no reason to speculate on his ability..." However, not sure I can agree with your post. You can have a great idea about someone's athleticism at age 14.


Btw, this thread makes me think of Payton Hendrix. Who did he end up choosing? Harding, Duke, or UNC? That was the biggest case of embellishing a hometown kid that I can ever remember on here (that hasn't happened with Vanover at all, thankfully).

Edit: Just occured to me that Payton Hendrix was a DB we were looking at on the gridiron. What was the kid's name who would only choose the Hogs, Duke, or UNC over Harding in basketball?

[mhuff]

I'm definitely in the camp of "He's 14, no reason to speculate on his ability..." However, not sure I can agree with your post. You can have a great idea about someone's athleticism at age 14.


Btw, this thread makes me think of Payton Hendrix. Who did he end up choosing? Harding, Duke, or UNC? That was the biggest case of embellishing a hometown kid that I can ever remember on here (that hasn't happened with Vanover at all, thankfully).

Edit: Just occured to me that Payton Hendrix was a DB we were looking at on the gridiron. What was the kid's name who would only choose the Hogs, Duke, or UNC over Harding in basketball?

Remember Joe Johnson when he was 14. The Wings won the National 14 and Under Championship. I would say they were "pretty" good as they were beating our brains out. I sure think those who said, " Joe might be pretty good" were right.  :razorback:

[hs6]

I'm definitely in the camp of "He's 14, no reason to speculate on his ability..." However, not sure I can agree with your post. You can have a great idea about someone's athleticism at age 14.


Btw, this thread makes me think of Payton Hendrix. Who did he end up choosing? Harding, Duke, or UNC? That was the biggest case of embellishing a hometown kid that I can ever remember on here (that hasn't happened with Vanover at all, thankfully).

Edit: Just occured to me that Payton Hendrix was a DB we were looking at on the gridiron. What was the kid's name who would only choose the Hogs, Duke, or UNC over Harding in basketball?

I cannot recall his name, but I believe he played at Benton Harmony Grove.

[Nipsey Mussle]

I cannot recall his name, but I believe he played at Benton Harmony Grove.

Good call, buddy. You clarifying the HS actually triggered his name. It was Hayden Burchfield.

[Nipsey Mussle]

Remember Joe Johnson when he was 14. The Wings won the National 14 and Under Championship. I would say they were "pretty" good as they were beating our brains out. I sure think those who said, " Joe might be pretty good" were right.  :razorback:

Yeah I'd say he turned out alright! Lol..

You were probably his coach Mhuff, you son of a gun! I forget what age you coached/helped with?

[Hawg Red]

Conor has been invited to the 2014 USA Development National Team Training Camp, per his father on Twitter.

[choppedporkextrasauce]

I'm definitely in the camp of "He's 14, no reason to speculate on his ability..." However, not sure I can agree with your post. You can have a great idea about someone's athleticism at age 14.


Btw, this thread makes me think of Payton Hendrix. Who did he end up choosing? Harding, Duke, or UNC? That was the biggest case of embellishing a hometown kid that I can ever remember on here (that hasn't happened with Vanover at all, thankfully).

Edit: Just occured to me that Payton Hendrix was a DB we were looking at on the gridiron. What was the kid's name who would only choose the Hogs, Duke, or UNC over Harding in basketball?

you're possibly selling this guy short he may well be slow developing in his athletism. Lots of guys are. And it may never happen but he's cleary the best of his family. This is one kid worth watching. The luxury of time is on his side right now.

[Hawg Red]

you're possibly selling this guy short he may well be slow developing in his athletism. Lots of guys are. And it may never happen but he's cleary the best of his family. This is one kid worth watching. The luxury of time is on his side right now.

Definitely worth keeping tabs on.

[Nipsey Mussle]

you're possibly selling this guy short he may well be slow developing in his athletism. Lots of guys are. And it may never happen but he's cleary the best of his family. This is one kid worth watching. The luxury of time is on his side right now.

I wasn't doubting Vanover at all. I'm really excited about seeing him play actually. Was just making a general statement that you can't expect athleticism to change a whole lot. I didn't watch the video, so I don't even know how athletic he is.
If me and a kid run a race at age 14, assuming we each have similar levels of activity, the results won't change much at all 4 years later.

[mhuff]

Yeah I'd say he turned out alright! Lol..

You were probably his coach Mhuff, you son of a gun! I forget what age you coached/helped with?

I coached against him. My team didn't have much of a coach. I had a team for about three years ,and two teams for about a year. Decided kids sitting on bench and a year younger needed to be on the floor. One year we played up in classification. We did beat NLR in tournament ,and our PG got experience. He was the only one in that age classification. It is just good experience to play against the best competition available. It paid off later.

[mhuff]

BBs, I would say that age 15 or 16 is where kids mature physically the most. They jump higher, get stronger and faster. Also, skill wise some don't even develop a decent jump shot till them. Also, kids that grow too fast take time to regain coordination. My greatest improvement came between my sophomore and junior years. I was a slow learner though.