No south end zone bleachers this year

[ricepig]

Mike Waddell (@mikewaddellUA) tweeted at 10:52 AM on Mon, Jul 28, 2014: @Looney_Hog @BHF_WPS Bleachers are gone... stya tuned for our announcement for something really cool / one of a kind for @Uarkansas students

[Inhogswetrust]

 
Maybe the student section will become a "club" level seating area and then they can have Beer!

[alwaysnextyear]

Probably will put some bleachers in the north end zone like UT game.

[Pickwick Hog]

Bungee jumping and zip lines to the Broyles Center!

Hey, 'bout as safe as those bleachers appeared to be.

[Inhogswetrust]

Bungee jumping and zip lines to the Broyles Center!

Hey, 'bout as safe as those bleachers appeared to be.

Those bleachers are perfectly safe................................as long as you don't fall off.

[ur]

Outside Lounge area for students, frats, sor.?   Guess they could call it The Acropolis! 

[ricepig]

Outside Lounge area for students, frats, sor.?   Guess they could call it The Acropolis! 

My son almost always sat up there, we'll, not in the bleachers. He wasn't about to stand in line, and you actually get a great view from there if you sat in the lower rows.

[JayBell]

My son almost always sat up there, we'll, not in the bleachers. He wasn't about to stand in line, and you actually get a great view from there if you sat in the lower rows.

But the back rows make up the scariest place I have ever stood in my life.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

They may still do something for the students in that upper south end zone area.  It's actually a pretty cool place to watch a game, not in the bleachers though.  I went back to the UofA about 12 years ago to get my masters.  Best part of it was getting student ticket prices for not only myself but the wife and kids.  Could take the entire family to the game for like $10.  The view up there on just the deck is very good.  You can see the entire field see plays developing see the defense breaking down etc.  Obviously great view of the big screen as well.  The only drawback at the time was the food service up there was spotty.  Now I wouldn't have sat on those bleachers for $100, but they weren't even up at that point.   

[Boardon Hamsay]

Probably will put some bleachers in the north end zone like UT game.

T'would be my guess as well.

[ricepig]

T'would be my guess as well.

Doubtful.

[The_Iceman]

My last few years in law school, I almost always sat on top of the SEZ. I never sat in the green bleachers tho. I went up there once just to see what it was like, and you couldn't see the 20 yard line to the end zone. Not good seats.

The permanent seats up there are a fantastic view of the game tho.

[arkansaspanic]

They're not that bad really.  I've sat in them several times.  If you fell off the back, you would have to also jump 25 feet out to have an extremely serious fall.  They didn't go all the way back to the edge of the stadium wall.  They definitely look uneasy from the sideline seats in the stadium, but once your up there you kind of realize that they're okay.

[jkstock04]

They're not that bad really.  I've sat in them several times.  If you fell off the back, you would have to also jump 25 feet out to have an extremely serious fall.  They didn't go all the way back to the edge of the stadium wall.  They definitely look uneasy from the sideline seats in the stadium, but once your up there you kind of realize that they're okay.

Exactly what I was wondering...from down below I always thought it looked pretty scary, I'm kind of uneasy about heights anyways.

When I was a student I don't think we ever had those seats so I've never been up there.

[Uncle SI]

Tee shirt guns again?

[Huckleberry Pig]

Like panic said, they are fine once your up there.  Not the best view but they are very safe.  You aren't at all close to the back edge.  And my favorite seats ended up being up there, not on the bleachers but the real seats.  You really get to see the plays develop and didn't have to deal with being a sardine for 4hrs

[Boardon Hamsay]

Tee shirt guns again?

Only if kick off temps are under 105.

[go hogues]

In other words, they don't want the place to look more empty than it already will.

[Ramtough]

In other words, they don't want the place to look more empty than it already will.

I"m thinking stripper poles and elevated cages. That would go great with the beer.

[Oklahawg]

Put down a plywood floor on the roof of the BAC and have a kegger.

[Cinco de Hogo]

 I've heard they are expecting somewhere on neighborhood of 7000 less fans per game,  just don't need the extra seating.

[The_Iceman]

Like panic said, they are fine once your up there.  Not the best view but they are very safe.  You aren't at all close to the back edge.  And my favorite seats ended up being up there, not on the bleachers but the real seats.  You really get to see the plays develop and didn't have to deal with being a sardine for 4hrs

I agree. I always tried to be one of the first students up there to get one of those seats. Play development was really fun to watch up there.

[The_Iceman]

I've heard they are expecting somewhere on neighborhood of 7000 less fans per game,  just don't need the extra seating.

And students just don't turn out consistently enough to justify them. Too many enjoy drinking and partying at their frat houses or in the tailgates to actually come cheer on their team. Then, when halftime hits, they leave early to go back.

I definitely noticed a "too cool for school" attitude with some in the student section.

[hogcard1964]

I've heard they are expecting somewhere on neighborhood of 7000 less fans per game,  just don't need the extra seating.

Why is that?

[Inhogswetrust]

Why is that?

I'll guess fair weather fans.........................................

[hogcard1964]

I'll guess fair weather fans.........................................

That's a huge decline.

[GuvHog]

Why is that?

Ticket sales are down a bit due to 2 losing seasons in a row. Once the Hogs start winning again and there is a need for the extra seating, the south end zone bleachers will probably be put back up there.

[Inhogswetrust]

That's a huge decline.

Yes but unfortunately all teams have some including us. My take is IF someone is a fair-weather fan they are not a real fan.  When fans support and root for and show up when they have in the past when winning and then do so when things aren't so bright, then you have a real fan. I realize a lot of people can't go to games. That doesn't mean their support should waver when things aren't so bright. It is easy and more fun to show up and/or support the players when winning it is more difficult when losing. The players deserve our support maybe moreso in bad times than good.

[Inhogswetrust]

Ticket sales are down a bit due to 2 losing seasons in a row. Once the Hogs start winning again and there is a need for the extra seating, the south end zone bleachers will probably be put back up there.

I'd bet more along the lines of the north end zone expansion happening before bleachers are added back on top of the south endzone.

[Pickwick Hog]

Paid attendance figures are down everywhere. LSU has seen declines for 2 consecutive years and are concerned about the fact they just increased seating to 102k+.

[Inhogswetrust]

Paid attendance figures are down everywhere. LSU has seen declines for 2 consecutive years and are concerned about the fact they just increased seating to 102k+.

Yep. The proliferation of games on TV imo is the main cause of attendance declines.

[mhsbc59]

I have been to all the so called loud games in RRS and the bama one in 10 is the only one that comes close to WMS games get on a regular basses. Loudest game from start to finish ever was in WMS 1998 vs. tim couches kentucky book it

[hoosier]

I have been to all the so called loud games in RRS and the bama one in 10 is the only one that comes close to WMS games get on a regular basses. Loudest game from start to finish ever was in WMS 1998 vs. tim couches kentucky book it

That was by far the loudest game I have ever been to.

[GuvHog]

I'd bet more along the lines of the north end zone expansion happening before bleachers are added back on top of the south endzone.

I hope you are right but I suspect the North end zone enclosure will happen first.

[The_Iceman]

Ticket sales are down a bit due to 2 losing seasons in a row. Once the Hogs start winning again and there is a need for the extra seating, the south end zone bleachers will probably be put back up there.

The South End Zone seats really have nothing to do with ticket sales. It has to do with Student Attendance. They sell out plenty of Access Passes a year to fill it up, but people just don't come.

[hogcard1964]

Is this confirmed? 

[ricepig]

The South End Zone seats really have nothing to do with ticket sales. It has to do with Student Attendance. They sell out plenty of Access Passes a year to fill it up, but people just don't come.

Yep, those 4000 temporary seats are what push us to 76,000 and really don't figure into normal attendance.

[ricepig]

Is this confirmed? 

Did you read the first post with tweet from Mike Waddell?

[GuvHog]

The South End Zone seats really have nothing to do with ticket sales. It has to do with Student Attendance. They sell out plenty of Access Passes a year to fill it up, but people just don't come.

During 2010 and 2011 seasons, those bleachers were nearly full for every home conference game because what seats the students didn't buy were sold to the public. They've been nearly empty for every game the last 2 years.

[Huckleberry Pig]

still waiting for what the new cool thing is...

They project numbers this season will be down, which makes sense.  But boy that could change if we just got a W in game one.  Nothing would make me happier.

[Inhogswetrust]

I hope you are right but I suspect the North end zone enclosure will happen first.

I think that's what I said isn't it..................you are confusing me Gov. Since you are Gov though I shouldn't be surprised.

[hogcard1964]

Did you read the first post with tweet from Mike Waddell?

Yes, but then that was followed with this:

"stya tuned for our announcement for something really cool / one of a kind for @Uarkansas students"

what's the meaning of this?

[The_Iceman]

During 2010 and 2011 seasons, those bleachers were nearly full for every home conference game because what seats the students didn't buy were sold to the public. They've been nearly empty for every game the last 2 years.

Now, Students don't buy tickets. They buy access passes. So if students buy enough passes to cover those 4,000 seats, then those tickets won't be sold to the general public. All it is doing is reducing the number of student seats. That won't mean much for most games. For big home games, it will just mean some won't get it (or will be moves to the East Side Upper deck to look for empty spots.

[The_Iceman]

I have been to all the so called loud games in RRS and the bama one in 10 is the only one that comes close to WMS games get on a regular basses. Loudest game from start to finish ever was in WMS 1998 vs. tim couches kentucky book it

Tennessee 2006 was the loudest before Bama 2010.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvQx41odnKY

The crowd was great in 2011 for Tennessee, Auburn, and South Carolina as well.

WMS has had some great crowds, aided greatly by the smaller stadium and bowl design, but their lows have been much worse than anything in RRS. The last two seasons in WMS have been a joke. People have begun just going to the game to drink on the golf course and no one went inside. 45,000 at a game should never happen, which is why they are slowly losing games.

[Boardon Hamsay]

Yes, but then that was followed with this:

"stya tuned for our announcement for something really cool / one of a kind for @Uarkansas students"

what's the meaning of this?

I take that as they are looking for different ways to enhance student attendance. If they aren't using the upper deck bleachers this year, then I assume they have an alternative student seating location plan (i.e. NEZ field level bleachers, BAC patio seats, replace the SEZ bleachers with more of a patio scene. etc.). Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

[jb11]

I have been to all the so called loud games in RRS and the bama one in 10 is the only one that comes close to WMS games get on a regular basses. Loudest game from start to finish ever was in WMS 1998 vs. tim couches kentucky book it

I have to go with either the Houston game or the A&M game in the late 80's. You couldn't even talk to the person next to you and your ears rang for days.

[The_Iceman]

I take that as they are looking for different ways to enhance student attendance. If they aren't using the upper deck bleachers this year, then I assume they have an alternative student seating location plan (i.e. NEZ field level bleachers, BAC patio seats, replace the SEZ bleachers with more of a patio scene. etc.). Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

When the green bleachers are not there, there is actually a pretty large terrace area available on top of the SEZ...much like the one they plan to do above the NEZ. I won't if they are going to make that area into something cool.

[B0SSH0GG]

I have heard that the SEZ area is going to be used to rent out for private parties, corporate events, etc. Again, the student tickets do not create enough revenue for this area so have to create something for the high rollers to blow money on.

[The_Iceman]

I have heard that the SEZ area is going to be used to rent out for private parties, corporate events, etc. Again, the student tickets do not create enough revenue for this area so have to create something for the high rollers to blow money on.

What they may do is take the bleacher seats that already exist up there and section them off per private tent. That way one big tent up there will have plenty of space for food, drinks, a few tables, and then enough seats for those to watch the game. It is actually a pretty good idea if that's what they do.

[ricepig]

What they may do is take the bleacher seats that already exist up there and section them off per private tent. That way one big tent up there will have plenty of space for food, drinks, a few tables, and then enough seats for those to watch the game. It is actually a pretty good idea if that's what they do.

Mike said something about a student area, but they only sell 9800 student Access Passes and I don't know what the section by the band holds.