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Game 1 Depth Chart Predictions - Offense

Started by Prestworthy, July 19, 2014, 12:38:21 pm

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Prestworthy

QB - Brandon Allen
RB - J Williams/AC/KM
FB - Arinze
OT - Skipper
OG - Brey Cook
C - Ragnow
OG - Kirkland
OT - Brian Wallace
TE - Henry
WR - Hatcher
WR - D Wilson

ldfergu

I don't think Brian Wallace wins the starting OT spot for game 1. Just my opinion though

Or Ragnow beating out Charpentier for game 1 either. Those things may change down the road tho

 

bennyl08

QB: BA
RB: JWill
RB: Collins
WR: Wilson
WR: Hatcher
TE: Henry
LT: Skipper
LG: Smothers
C: Ragnow
RG: Kirkland
RT: Cook
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Uncommon

QB 10 Brandon Allen
RB 32 Jonathan Williams
FB 45 Tyler Colquitt
WR 4 Keon Hatcher
WR 85 Demetrius Wilson
TE 84 Hunter Henry
LT 76 Dan Skipper
LG 79 Cameron Jefferson
C 73 Sebastian Tretola
RG 55 Denver Kirkland
RT 74 Brey Cook

luke hawg

QB- Allen
FB- Walker, Jones, Arinze, Colquitt
RB- Marshall, Williams, Collins
TE- Henry, Voelzke, Derby, Sprinkle
WR- Hatcher, Wilson, Hollister, Cornelius,
OT- Cook
OG- Kirkland
C- Charpentier, Smothers
OG- Cameron, Ragnow, Tretola, Smothers, Ollison, Wallace, McClure
OT- Skipper

KR- Marshall
PR- Robinson

ricepig

Quote from: StoneTemplePiglets on July 19, 2014, 01:03:45 pm
I don't think Brian Wallace wins the starting OT spot for game 1. Just my opinion though

Or Ragnow beating out Charpentier for game 1 either. Those things may change down the road tho

Yep, article today in the ADG said he had always been a RT in high school and they are moving him to LT, he said the foot work was the hardest part.

BatesvilleHOG

QB - B Allen
RB - JWill/Budda, Marshall/Evans
FB - Arinze, Jones, Colquitt
TE - Henry/Derby, Voelzke, Sprinkle
WR - Hatcher, Wilson, Robinson, Hollister, Cornelious, Duwop, Morgan
RT - Cook, Ollison, Wallace
RG - Jefferson, Tretola
C - Carpentier, Smothers, Ragnow, Tretola
LG - Kirkland, Ragnow
LT - Skipper, Wallace 

KR - Marshall, Hatcher
PR - Robinson, Hatcher, Duwop

GalaHawg


QB: BA
RB: JWill
RB: Collins
WR: Wilson
WR: Hatcher
TE: Henry
LT: Skipper
LG: Boyd/Charp
C: Smothers
RG: Kirkland
RT: Cook

I don't think we will see anyone starting their first SEC game against Aubbie

Prestworthy

I can't remember...did Shawn Andrews start from day 1?

woopig71657

QB: B. Allen, A. Allen, R. Peavey
RB: J. Williams or A. Collins or K. Marshall
FB: K. Walker, C. Jones, T. Colquitt
WR: K. Hatcher, J. Cornelius, J. Robinson
WR: D. Wilson, C. Hollister, D. Mitchell
TE: H. Henry, A.J. Derby, J. Sprinkle
LT: D. Skipper, B. Wallace
LG: C. Jefferson, S. Tretola
C: L. Charpentier, M. Smothers
RG: D. Kirkland, F. Ragnow
RT: B. Cook, G. Ollison

bennyl08

Quote from: bennyl08 on July 19, 2014, 01:05:17 pm
QB: BA
RB: JWill
RB: Collins
WR: Wilson
WR: Hatcher
TE: Henry
LT: Skipper
LG: Smothers
C: Ragnow
RG: Kirkland
RT: Cook

I'm confused, are we doing opening lineup, or opening depth chart? OP titled it one way, but kind of posted the other, so I copied what he posted. WR I think will be very play dependent. Do we want, big, fast, or balanced?

QB: BA, AA, RP
RB: JWill, Collins, Marshall, Evans
FB: Walker, Arinze/Jones, Colquit
WR: Wilson, Hollister, Antwine
WR: Hatcher, Duwop, Morgan,
WR: JoJo, Cornelius, Hatcher
TE: Henry, Sprinkle/Derby, Voelzke
LT: Skipper, Beck, Wallace
LG: Smothers, Tretola, Ragnow, Boyd
C: Ragnow, Smothers, Tretola
RG: Kirkland, Smothers, McClure
RT: Cook, Wallace, Ollison
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Poker_hog

Hope Jefferson is as advertised and shores up LG
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Josh Goforth

Quote from: bennyl08 on July 19, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
I'm confused, are we doing opening lineup, or opening depth chart? OP titled it one way, but kind of posted the other, so I copied what he posted. WR I think will be very play dependent. Do we want, big, fast, or balanced?

QB: BA, AA, RP
RB: JWill, Collins, Marshall, Evans
FB: Walker, Arinze/Jones, Colquit
WR: Wilson, Hollister, Antwine
WR: Hatcher, Duwop, Morgan,
WR: JoJo, Cornelius, Hatcher
TE: Henry, Sprinkle/Derby, Voelzke
LT: Skipper, Beck, Wallace
LG: Smothers, Tretola, Ragnow, Boyd
C: Ragnow, Smothers, Tretola
RG: Kirkland, Smothers, McClure
RT: Cook, Wallace, Ollison

Might just need 12 vs Auburn. Probably more on d than offense.

 

bennyl08

Quote from: jg8417 on July 19, 2014, 05:29:24 pm
Might just need 12 vs Auburn. Probably more on d than offense.

Depth charts will often contain more than just 11 spots. It would make just as much sense for me to list Arinze as the second string RB as it would for JoJo to be the second string X. They are different positions. It doesn't mean that each position will see field at the same time, but that when it does see the field, this is the order in which players would see the field.
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ImHogginIt

Quote from: Prestworthy on July 19, 2014, 04:12:06 pm
I can't remember...did Shawn Andrews start from day 1?

Nope. Was 3rd game against Bama in 2001

PurpleBullHog

I haven't heard too much about Reeve Koehler lately and I didn't notice his name on any of these depth charts.  How do you folks think he plays into our rotation?

razorback44

Quote from: PurpleBullHog on July 19, 2014, 11:25:25 pm
I haven't heard too much about Reeve Koehler lately and I didn't notice his name on any of these depth charts.  How do you folks think he plays into our rotation?

He doesn't. He won't be in the two deep this year.
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PurpleBullHog

Quote from: razorback44 on July 19, 2014, 11:34:14 pm
He doesn't. He won't be in the two deep this year.

I'm sorry to hear that.  I seem to remember a lot of folks being excited about him when he committed. 

redswarmrising

Quote from: razorback44 on July 19, 2014, 11:34:14 pm
He doesn't. He won't be in the two deep this year.

wasn't Koehler being mentioned for the C position by the coaches?

The Hogfather

I would really like to see Walker as FB in the same type role as Kiero had last year.  Walker could bring yet another dimension to our running game/offense.

three hog night

Oline
Cook, Ollison, Wallace, Jefferson, Tretola, Carpentier, Smothers, Ragnow, Tretola,  Kirkland, Ragnow, Skipper, and Wallace.

Does anyone remember a time when we had this much talent for the 2nd string?   SECOND STRING?!   Wow this is rare for us thus we will be much more fresh in the 4th quarter this year...and BEYOND.
Petrino left a mess and Bielema is trying to fill in the talent gaps.  Anderson finally has some talent to work with.  He needs more at select positions and that will come in the next recruiting class. 
Posters that think they are Jim Rhome are ruining message boards.

East TN HAWG

QB Allen
RB JW AC Km
FB Arinze
WR Hatcher
WR Wilson
TE Henry
LT Skipper
LG Jefferson
C Smothers
RG Kirkland
RT Cook

Kevin

I don't see charp or smothers starting much
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East TN HAWG

Quote from: Kevin on July 20, 2014, 09:34:56 am
I don't see charp or smothers starting much
This is the first game.  I just can't see a first year player starting at center.  The center calls all the blocking assignments.  I believe Charp or Smothers will start because the coaches will trust them to call the correct assignments.

 

Kevin

Pittman kept saying in the spring our starting center may not be on campus, yet.

He also said at the end of spring, smothers is now the starter, but we will wait to see if he holds on to it when fall practice starts. 

My prediction is based on his comments
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Biggus Piggus

Quote from: StoneTemplePiglets on July 19, 2014, 01:03:45 pm
I don't think Brian Wallace wins the starting OT spot for game 1. Just my opinion though

Or Ragnow beating out Charpentier for game 1 either. Those things may change down the road tho

Charpentier isn't even first team today. If he plays anywhere, it will be guard. That's what the position coach said.

They really, really want somebody to rise up and take that center job.
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BPsTheMan

I'd not be opposed to seeing Grady Ollison moved to defense either

we gotta get that guy on the field

Hawgzinbowlz

Quote from: East TN HAWG on July 20, 2014, 09:32:41 am
QB Allen
RB JW AC Km
FB Arinze
WR Hatcher
WR Wilson
TE Henry
LT Skipper
LG Jefferson
C Smothers
RG Kirkland
RT Cook

Probably close with this list.
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209514668

Jefferson was recruited to play this year and we'll see how astute CBB and Coach Pittman are. I'm guessing they will be right on Cameron (33 consecutive starts at UNLV). His experience and versatility will allow us to absorb an injury that may not be possible without him, and keep the OL functioning at a high level. Gotta love the depth of the OL.

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OnTheHillHogFan

Quote from: PurpleBullHog on July 19, 2014, 11:40:48 pm
I'm sorry to hear that.  I seem to remember a lot of folks being excited about him when he committed.
He dislocated his knee cap last year and had to have surgery. He is still only a redshirt freshman. I would expect him to be on the two deep next year.
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BatesvilleHOG

Quote from: BoomMuthaFusschamp on July 20, 2014, 04:27:05 pm
I'd not be opposed to seeing Grady Ollison moved to defense either

we gotta get that guy on the field
I said the same thing last year. Dude is a stud and he has a ton of potential. I've heard he has a work ethic problem tho. Either way, I hope he can turn the corner and find himself on the field this year playing either side of the ball.

lumphog

Quote from: Hawgzinbowlz on July 20, 2014, 05:43:54 pm
Probably close with this list.
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209514668

Jefferson was recruited to play this year and we'll see how astute CBB and Coach Pittman are. I'm guessing they will be right on Cameron (33 consecutive starts at UNLV). His experience and versatility will allow us to absorb an injury that may not be possible without him, and keep the OL functioning at a high level. Gotta love the depth of the OL.

" GO HOGS "

Don't know why, but I think CJ is our starting center.....just a feelin

Prestworthy

Somehow I've garnered like 6 smites posting predictions for the first games' starters?

Tim Harris

July 21, 2014, 08:16:02 am #32 Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 08:35:16 am by Tim Harris
QB - Allen
RB - Collins/JWill
FB - Walker
WR - Hatcher
WR - I think one of the freshman will be the other starter at WR.
TE - Henry
LT - Skipper
LG - Jefferson
C - Tretola/Ragnow
RG - Kirkland
RT - Cook  <--I think Wallace will take this spot by mid season much like Skipper & Kirkland did last year.

Kevin

Smothers will not hold on to the center spot
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Tim Harris

Quote from: Kevin on July 21, 2014, 08:26:09 am
Smothers will not hold on to the center spot

You are correct.  I copied and pasted someone elses and then made the changes I thought would be different.  I think Tretola or Ragnow will be the starting center.

Three and Snout


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Hawgzinbowlz

Quote from: lumphog on July 20, 2014, 10:44:09 pm
Don't know why, but I think CJ is our starting center.....just a feelin
I think his greatest experience is at left guard and left/right tackle. He may be talented enough to come in and play center and if so I think it will be later and not at Auburn.
I think Smothers or Charpentier will start Aug. 30, to be conservative and rely on their experience, and we may see someone else by the time we hit the heart of the SEC.
Smothers had a good spring and Charpentier was adequate last year, under SEC fire.
I like the competition and options, in the event of injuries or simply to upgrade the OL, as the season progresses.
Grady came out of HS with good press as a DL. Maybe good for DL depth and quality, as he is an impressive athlete. Both CBB and Coach Robb Smith believe in adapting and adjusting and with our OL depth I doubt that Coach Pittman would throw a fit.

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Three and Snout

Quote from: Hog Fan from Camden on July 21, 2014, 08:51:08 am
Just curious, why?

I think Walker will take over the FB role (at least for the beginning of the season).  Hopefully he's fully healthy and has his speed back so he can be involved in the offense as more than just a lead blocker.  He was a goal line TD machine in 2011 before he got hurt.

Hog Fan from Camden

Quote from: Three and Snout on July 21, 2014, 10:04:16 am
I think Walker will take over the FB role (at least for the beginning of the season).  Hopefully he's fully healthy and has his speed back so he can be involved in the offense as more than just a lead blocker.  He was a goal line TD machine in 2011 before he got hurt.
Makes sense!

Prestworthy

Quote from: Three and Snout on July 21, 2014, 10:04:16 am
I think Walker will take over the FB role (at least for the beginning of the season).  Hopefully he's fully healthy and has his speed back so he can be involved in the offense as more than just a lead blocker.  He was a goal line TD machine in 2011 before he got hurt.
i could see walker starting at FB. He's probably quicker than Arinze and I'd like to see him catch passes out of the backfield like Small did last year. They loved converting 3rd downs with him through the air.

PorkRinds

Quote from: Prestworthy on July 20, 2014, 11:22:14 pm
Somehow I've garnered like 6 smites posting predictions for the first games' starters?

I just smited you for worrying about smites!

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Biggus Piggus

Quote from: Prestworthy on July 19, 2014, 12:38:21 pm
QB - Brandon Allen
RB - J Williams/AC/KM
FB - Arinze
OT - Skipper
OG - Brey Cook
C - Ragnow
OG - Kirkland
OT - Brian Wallace
TE - Henry
WR - Hatcher
WR - D Wilson


QB BA
RB Williams
FB - mystified by this position - does anyone have an edge at this point?
LT Skipper
LG Jefferson
C Tretola
RG Kirkland
RT Cook
TE Henry
WR Hatcher
WR Wilson
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Reservoir Hogs

Quote from: Prestworthy on July 21, 2014, 01:26:01 pm
i could see walker starting at FB. He's probably quicker than Arinze and I'd like to see him catch passes out of the backfield like Small did last year. They loved converting 3rd downs with him through the air.

I like Walker as a big back and a pass catching threat out of the backfield, he is even a pretty good pass blocker, but he needs to improve on Run blocking.  You need a bettering ram in there getting to the LBs allowing the backs to get to the next level.  I did not see that will to be a devestating blocker from him in the spring...  Big adjustment from RB

Biggus Piggus

Offensive line situation seems a lot better entering 2014, talent-wise. It's unlikely the season will end with the same starting five as it begins with.

The only true freshman who ever started a Razorback opening game on the offensive line was Mitch Smothers in 2011. That did not work out well for him.

Positions with returning starter who started at the position and kept the job: RT, RG

Players who have done nothing to lose their starting roles:

RT Brey Cook (started some at LG)
RG Denver Kirkland
LT Dan Skipper (LG in 2013)

Player who exited spring practice with a tenuous hold on a starting job:

C Mitch Smothers

Position that was wide open after spring: LG - tried Smothers, Charpentier, Boyd (moved to DL), Ollison

Player who started a ton of games at OG for UNLV: Cameron Jefferson

Other newcomers expected to push starters hard:

Brian Wallace (OT), Frank Ragnow (C, OT), Sebastian Tretola (C, OT)

Veterans waiting for a chance:

Austin Beck (OT), Luke Charpentier (OG, C), Grady Ollison (OT, OG)

It is not a beautiful depth chart, but it's far better than we would have faced without Bielema/Pittman.
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Virgil

If Ragnow starts at center against Auburn we're in a world of hurt.  Nothing against the kid but your talking about a true freshman at a position that requires a lot of adjustment knowledge. 
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Biggus Piggus

Quote from: Virgil on July 21, 2014, 03:49:02 pm
If Ragnow starts at center against Auburn we're in a world of hurt.  Nothing against the kid but your talking about a true freshman at a position that requires a lot of adjustment knowledge. 

Well, the Hogs do not have any ideal option. Nobody on the roster has started a college game at center. Nobody on the roster played a snap of center in high school. Charpentier has the most experience, having backed up Swanson all last season. After spring, he wasn't talked about as a center.
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lefty08

Quote from: Biggus Piggus on July 21, 2014, 05:06:41 pm
Well, the Hogs do not have any ideal option. Nobody on the roster has started a college game at center. Nobody on the roster played a snap of center in high school. Charpentier has the most experience, having backed up Swanson all last season. After spring, he wasn't talked about as a center.

maybe u can answer this biggus, cause i really dont know much about playing the offensive line. Is it stupid to think that coverage calling and blitz pick up responsibilities could be transfered to a guard instead of the center? i think in most cases they should be able to see whats going on on the other side of the ball. i really dont know if thats possible or not, it may be ridiculous. thoughts?
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Quote from: lefty08 on July 21, 2014, 06:05:12 pm
maybe u can answer this biggus, cause i really dont know much about playing the offensive line. Is it stupid to think that coverage calling and blitz pick up responsibilities could be transfered to a guard instead of the center? i think in most cases they should be able to see whats going on on the other side of the ball. i really dont know if thats possible or not, it may be ridiculous. thoughts?

I'm not Biggus...but I don't think that Jefferson at Center is a total stretch. He has experience and might have the position handed to him by default. Not likely, though, as he fills a need nicely while playing his NFL position.

Has to frustrate the staff that they are begging for a vet to own the gig and they manage to scuffle through spring drills with no resolution.

I know my voice on this is in the steeped minority: I'd love to see Ollison back at 270 playing FB. Good footwork and decent strength. Not slow, for certain, and at 270, maybe 260-5, he would be quick enough to be an asset. An extra blocker back there.

Line calls for the center don't seem to be the issue. Raw blocking and snapping skills are the issue. I would guess line calls can come from anywhere up front, but center is optimum.

You'd really love for Wallace or Ragnow to have been on campus in January. Tretola had the shot before transcript issues appeared. I assume he is on campus now but haven't gotten confirmation. UA suffers in the "impact JUCO" game. Always had, counting on one hand immediate impacts from transfers. Boo Williams may be as good as any in the SEC era. I'm sure I'm leaving other fine players out of the mix.

Koehler suffered when the injury deep-sixed playing as a true frosh. He did not react well to having to rehab and work in the shadows. Not uncommon - many true frosh suffer from not being in the limelight suddenly. Others have passed him while he has "found the path." Not sure he has fully found it, but I am an optimist.

His situation is clearly tenuous given that he was working as Swanson's backup a year ago but is not mentioned as an option at center...while center is, uh, rather open.

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