Well, we know Nick Marshall's punishment

[ijustpork]

Synthetic THC-like products are terrible for mental health and health in general.  Marijuana is not.

although I agree some studies contradict the marijuana not part..

[popcornhog]

+1000. we don't agree on much. but we agree on this one.

We agree on more than you think Joe. I'm a big, big fan of Mike Anderson.

[Pork Twain]

Not at all. There is a BIG difference. One can drink occasionally and never get drunk. Every time one smokes pot they get high.

That does not justify one being illegal and one not and is not true.

[BornaHog]

I'm definitely unaware of a policy like that. He'll probably plea to a lesser charge anyway -- just as I would hope any student would end up doing. If indeed scholarships and aid are now being revoked for marijuana possession charges (which would really surprise me), this is one crazy messed up world.

And yes, it is a minor misdemeanor. It's much less serious than say DUI or even a reckless driving charge in many jurisdictions.

It is a DUI in most if not all states, just like alcohol. That is why it is DUI, driving under the Influence and not DWI which is driving while intoxicated, which states don't use anymore.

My understanding was he was a passenger, was why he didn't receive a DUI. I might be wrong on that though, since I haven't tried to keep up with an Auburn player.

[Pork Twain]

A Marijuana possession conviction would not be a "minor misdemeanor" if he was a normal student and not one that can run real fast with the football.

If he was a regular student the conviction would follow by having all aid provided by the school and federal government revoked. He would also likely to be placed on some sort of probation with this school for "such a minor misdemeanor".

But since he is really good at running with the football, his punishment will be extra conditioning drills to make him better at running with the football.

With all the talk currently about how disadvantaged the student-athlete is compared to a regular student, the differences like the above need to be taken into account as well, he will still have his classes, book, room and board payed for because he is a student-athlete, if he was a regular student he would be scrambling to figure out how to make up the cost difference because of the loss in his financial aid over a "minor misdemeanor".

Getting caught with a little weed is a LONG way from a possession "conviction".  Also if it was the first time, in most states it would indeed be a "minor misdemeanor" and while it "could" affect financial aid, there are many ways around it.

Marijuana Possession Penalties
For those charged with possession of under 1 kilogram of marijuana, not for resale or distribution, the misdemeanor marijuana possession charges are lowest for first offenders and then increase in their severity. In situations where the charge is based on sales of drug paraphernalia, the penalties can be increased to a felony if the item is sold to a minor child. Depending on the factors listed above, the penalties for possession can include:
a fine (typically up to $2000)
jail time (typically less than one year in jail)
mandatory drug testing
drug awareness classes
probation
electronic monitoring

Alabama Penalties for Marijuana Possession
Possession of marijuana is a criminal offense. Possession for personal use only (any amount less than one kilogram, or 2.2 pounds) is a Class A misdemeanor when the defendant has no prior convictions under this statute, punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $6,000. (Ala. Code §§ 13A-12-214, 13A-5-7, 13A-5-12.)

From the FAFSA Website

Is it true that drug convictions might affect my ability to get federal student aid?
Yes; your eligibility might be suspended if the offense occurred while you were receiving federal student aid (grants, loans, or work-study). When you complete the FAFSA, you will be asked whether you had a drug conviction for an offense that occurred while you were receiving federal student aid. If the answer is yes, you will be provided a worksheet to help you determine whether your conviction affects your eligibility for federal student aid. Preview the drug eligibility worksheet.

If your eligibility for federal student aid has been suspended due to a drug conviction, you can regain eligibility early by successfully completing an approved drug rehabilitation program or by passing two unannounced drug tests administered by an approved drug rehabilitation program. If you regain eligibility during the award year, notify your financial aid office immediately so you can get any aid you’re eligible for.

If you are convicted of a drug-related offense after you submit the FAFSA, you might lose eligibility for federal student aid, and you might be liable for returning any financial aid you received during a period of ineligibility.

https://studentaid.ed.gov/sites/default/files/2014-15-student-aid-eligibility-drug-worksheet.pdf

[nextlevel]

He was arrested in Georgia...

[weresoclose]

He was arrested in Georgia...

You mean issued a ticket in Georgia.  And it shouldn't even be a ticket.

[nextlevel]

You mean issued a ticket in Georgia.  And it shouldn't even be a ticket.

He wasn't issued a ticket.

He was arrested, ROR'd at the scene, and issued a citation for a misdemeanor drug possession charge.

[Pork Twain]

According to this he was not arrested.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2014/07/police_chief_says_teary-eyed_n.html

Marshall faces a fine totaling $1,100 and will not be required to appear in court Sept. 10 if he pays the fine. He was not arrested during the traffic stop.

Marshall had 8 to 9 grams of marijuana in the visor of his purple Dodge Charger, according to police.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2014/07/11/auburn-tigers-football-quarterback-nick-marshall-marijuana-possession/12552483/

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/13/teary-eyed-nick-marshall-very-regretful-during-pot-citation/

[Al Boarland]

He wasn't issued a ticket.

He was arrested, ROR'd at the scene, and issued a citation for a misdemeanor drug possession charge.

It was a ticket.  He can either pay the fine or go to court.  Just like a speeding ticket.

[nextlevel]

It was a ticket.  He can either pay the fine or go to court.  Just like a speeding ticket.

Paying the fine is a guilty plea to the misdemeanor.

[Rzbakfromwaybak]

When asked if Nick Marshall could be suspended for the season opener vs. Arkansas, Malzahn said  "I'm not at that point yet." Are you crazy?

The only thing that is probably going to be suspended....is the no tolerance policy...

[Jek Tono Porkins]

Not at all. There is a BIG difference. One can drink occasionally and never get drunk. Every time one smokes pot they get high.

How many blunts have you smoked in your day, Guv?

[JansterZ71]

The only thing that is probably going to be suspended....is the no tolerance policy...

Auburn doesn't have a no tolerance policy. 

[Hoggish1]

Gus rules with an iron fist, by god.
Zero tolerance!

Gus will regret coming down so hard on Marshall!

[nextlevel]

Auburn doesn't have a no tolerance policy. 

That isn't what they've told first time offenders in the past as they kick them to the curb.

[lefty08]

That isn't what they've told first time offenders in the past as they kick them to the curb.

Thats just for guys that dont play much and have never been in trouble at rival schools......everyone knows that

[Pig Worshipper]

I think Gus Malzahn WILL suspend Nick Marshall - for the San Jose State game in week two of Auburn's schedule!

[secneahog]

Driving a dodge charger

Imagine that

[j-mann]

Just where in the heck is your Unc spraying for bugs at? They have a shampoo for that, no need for pesticides...

he had to go in his office to clean for the new coach

[elkhog]

Gus isn't taking him to the SEC Media Days.

Bruce Feldman: #Auburn isn't bringing Nick Marshall to SEC Media Days after his marijuana citation..Would've been biggest name QB at SEC media days this wk

Well, he sure didn't hesitate in dishing out the punishment for a little residue.

[BPsTheMan]

Gus loving Arkansas media

still silent on day four

[elkhog]

A lot of Hog fans didn't want Gus hired here. Gus has made a lot of Hog fans look stupid. Maybe that's why a lot of people hate him.

Pretty simple.

[BPsTheMan]

Gus is not the one beat the hell out of us 52 to 0, Saban is. so why be so pissed at Gus and not Saban? see we both can play that game.

lay off the sauce old timer

[nextlevel]

Well, he sure didn't hesitate in dishing out the punishment for a little residue.

Mincy was arrested almost a month ago with a little more than "just residue", no punishment has been dealt.

Marshall got caught because he apparently of very low intelligence trying to hide 8 grams of weed in a baggie above the sun visor in his purple Dodge Challenger.

[GlassofSwine]

He wasn't issued a ticket.

He was arrested, ROR'd at the scene, and issued a citation for a misdemeanor drug possession charge.

ROR'd ? I've never heard of an ROR for someone who wasn't initially booked, and also they are usually petitioned to a Judge for a decision. If he wasn't arrested and booked I don't see how he could be on ROR.

  And you should work on reading comprehension, since I am questioning the statement that he was arrested and ROR'd as another poster claimed.

[JansterZ71]

ROR'd ? I've never heard of an ROR for someone who wasn't initially booked, and also they are usually petitioned to a Judge for a decision. If he wasn't arrested and booked I don't see how he could be on ROR.

Well you must be blind then because he was not arrested

[hoglady]

Has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not college kids screw up.

Has everything to do with how your current coach reacts when it happens.

At LSU, assault and rape don't get you kicked off the team.

At Vandy, its not clear who covered up what in a rape case.

At Mizzoo....a woman beater gets kicked off the team (kudos to them...I'm now a fan).

At Ohio State, punishment is deferred until the offending players can leave for the NFL.


We...remove players for not going to class. Some places just have a coed take those tests for the players.

So yeah... I'll own a little integrity for Arkansas' sake.

We don't really know what Malzahn is going to do to Marshall.
And we really don't know what the punishment would be for a Hog player caught with some weed.
Coach B has done a very good job keeping these kids out of trouble. But it doesn't mean that trouble isn't around the corner. Each situation is different.

LSU - I will agree with you on. They appear to be willing to do anything to keep a good player on the field.

[GlassofSwine]

Well you must be blind then because he was not arrested

What? I am questioning another poster's statement that he was arrested and ROR'd at the scene.

[BPsTheMan]

"The good thing is that we've got Jeremy Johnson who could start for the majority of the teams in college football," Malzahn said. "We'll just see what happens."

he's the decision maker, but "we'll just see what happens."

Clintonian

[Hogarusa]

I have much respect for the amount of threads and posts that are focused on a citation for the QB at Auburn.  I havent seen this much interest in how a coach is going to discipline a player before.

[PorkRinds]

I have much respect for the amount of threads and posts that are focused on a citation for the QB at Auburn.  I havent seen this much interest in how a coach is going to discipline a player before.

You missed when Johnny football got caught signing autographs huh?

[Swineasaur]

I'm sure the rules have changed since CBB came in, but when BP and JLS were at head, the first failed drug test was swept under the rug and the 2nd one was punishment.

[Hogarusa]

You missed when Johnny football got caught signing autographs huh?

I guess it's a stud QB thing

[Aub8593]

When they wanted to use a first failed test to kick a player off the team, they told him they were under a zero tolerance policy.

The guy complaining about the zero tolerance policy was Ricky Parks...he got kicked off the team the first day of fall practice last year and received a chance to earn his scholarship back this spring...he didn't go to class and flunked and now he's complaining about zero tolerance when he got a second chance.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Just where in the heck is your Unc spraying for bugs at? They have a shampoo for that, no need for pesticides...

Crabs. They are bugs too technically speaking.

[Al Boarland]

"The good thing is that we've got Jeremy Johnson who could start for the majority of the teams in college football," Malzahn said. "We'll just see what happens."

he's the decision maker, but "we'll just see what happens."

Clintonian

You have to think the waiting and wondering about his punishment is killing Marshall.  It's like hearing "Wait until your dad gets home".

[LRHawg]

My personal opinion is that our policy of keeping weed illegal yet keeping alcohol legal is absolutely retarded. But that aside, you would think that if you were an athlete the caliber of Nick Marshall, you would be capable of looking in the mirror and realizing that even though the current drug policy is retarded, you have a golden opportunity that nobody else gets and potentially squandering that opportunity for weed is more retarded. Is it really worth it? Is weed worth more than a multimillion dollar NFL contract? I don't understand these kids.

Pretty much this. Whatever your viewpoint is on pot's legality, currently it is illegal in Georgia and that was monumentally stupid of him. Personally, I think he will play against us and I'm fine with that. Auburn team laws give you one strike, then the next time it's a half-season ban, iirc.

[Hog N Bama]

He's also the biggest hypocrite in the world.

No doubt. Fake injuries and fake discipline

[PonderinHog]

No doubt. Fake injuries and fake discipline

The weed is real - this time...

[Killean]

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Some of you are ridiculous, he wasn't even arrested and had less than an oz. on him. If this was one of the best players on our team the majority of you screaming that he should be suspended would be saying it is ridiculous to suspend someone for receiving a citation for marijuana.

I don't have a morality issue with it. I am just amused we will have another moral gaffe from Ole Saint Gustopher.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Some of you are ridiculous, he wasn't even arrested and had less than an oz. on him. If this was one of the best players on our team the majority of you screaming that he should be suspended would be saying it is ridiculous to suspend someone for receiving a citation for marijuana.

All of this ongoing consternation over Auburn's QB and the funny thing is, if he is suspended at all (and I don't think that he will be) it will be for the first half of our game, if that.

Gus, by Auburn's stated drug policy, can discipline him prior to the season in some other way and not choose to suspend him for a first offense (if this is his first offense, which none of us know) and still allow him to play every snap  of every game, which is probably, and exactly, that which will occur.

[Rzbakfromwaybak]

Auburn doesn't have a no tolerance policy.

Lol.....well, it occasionally comes out of hiding.....for 3rd stringers

[Jamie Jones]

I guess it's a stud QB thing

Not so much, in this instance. Yes, Marshall is a stud qb, but the interest stems from GM fans on this board who wanted him as head coach and make him out to be the second coming.

[HogWildBison2011]

He was put into cuffs and put in the police car during the search.. he was arrested before being cited and released.. here is the video.

http://www.wrbl.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10368488

[Al Boarland]

He was put into cuffs and put in the police car during the search.. he was arrested before being cited and released.. here is the video.

http://www.wrbl.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10368488

So, when you get put into cuffs you are arrested? Well, that's it boys, tell the ol lady to put the toys away. You don't want that on your record.

[HogWildBison2011]

So, when you get put into cuffs you are arrested? Well, that's it boys, tell the ol lady to put the toys away. You don't want that on your record.

LOL he was not booked into the county jail.. But he was detained properly & placed in the vehicle. I have seen it done many times, so yes he was temporarily detained/arrested and given a municipal citation to appear in court... which if he does not attend they will issue a warrant for his arrest for failure to appear and gus will not be able to play it down. So yes he was arrested. What other illogical comment can you make?

[KlubhouseKonnected]

So, when you get put into cuffs you are arrested? Well, that's it boys, tell the ol lady to put the toys away. You don't want that on your record.

As far as a misdemeanor going and your record, whether or not you were formally booked ("arrested") or just seized, cited, and released ("arrested") has no practical, legal effect.

You guy are arguing pointless semantics.

I quoted you but this goes for both sides of this.

[HogWildBison2011]

As far as a misdemeanor going and your record, whether or not you were formally booked ("arrested") or just seized, cited, and released ("arrested") has no practical, legal effect.

You guy are arguing pointless semantics.

I quoted you but this goes for both sides of this.

Same could be said for your post. If found guilty in court (if he attends) it will go on his record regardless if he was arrested or cited. Same outcome different way of doing it.