Thursday bits

[The Recruiting Guy]

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2014/jul/10/thursday-recruiting-tidbits-opening/

[Huds_HawgTide]

Late night Richard?

[ImHogginIt]

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2014/jul/10/thursday-recruiting-tidbits-opening/

When I hear a player who says he is committed to a school say " I'm open" it kinda makes me not want us to recruit a guy like that. Guess I'm just an old guy who thinks a commitment should mean something.

[HogWildBison2011]

When I hear a player who says he is committed to a school say " I'm open" it kinda makes me not want us to recruit a guy like that. Guess I'm just an old guy who thinks a commitment should mean something.

You are not the only one! But I'm not complaining about snatching Joseph Robinson from FSU.. Or Otha Peters from Tenner.. Just hate it when it happens to us! Ironic huh?

[ImHogginIt]

You are not the only one! But I'm not complaining about snatching Joseph Robinson from FSU.. Or Otha Peters from Tenner.. Just hate it when it happens to us! Ironic huh?

I hope none of those guys ever went around telling reporters they were open when they were still committed.

[Richard_white]

He is probably open up his commitment because Miami has four RB's committed right now.

[COCHISE]

Why quit recruiting Mbanasor just because he committed to OU? Just being respectful? I'm assuming contact will continue at some point.

[The_Boot_stops_here]

Why quit recruiting Mbanasor just because he committed to OU? Just being respectful? I'm assuming contact will continue at some point.

more likely that Jennings thinks it would be a waste of his time and resources....if he thought there was still a shot he would still be recruiting him, OU commit or not...there is no such thing as 'backing off out of respect'

[The Recruiting Guy]

more likely that Jennings thinks it would be a waste of his time and resources....if he thought there was still a shot he would still be recruiting him, OU commit or not...there is no such thing as 'backing off out of respect'

Clay knows if something happens Arkansas will be in the hunt. You get to know the kid and recruit him in the way that gives you the best chance. P.J. Appreciates Clay backing off.
You might do that with other kids. He hasn't backed off of Jaylon Lane. Each kid is different.

[SemperFi]

As always, thanks for the updates RD. Hope that the Hogs can land some of these kids that are giving them a hard look.

Not part of your Thursday "tidbit's", but I'm shocked that there is no mention by KJ Hill about Arkansas in his top 5. Only listed Alabama, Florida and Oregon. Hope that we don't lose this kid, but it sure doesn't sound positive.

[MP24]

A family member tweeted that Hill has a top five that includes Alabama, Florida and Oregon. The other two will be announced later.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2014/jul/10/kj-hill-has-top-play-opening/

[Wildhog]

A family member tweeted that Hill has a top five that includes Alabama, Florida and Oregon. The other two will be announced later.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2014/jul/10/kj-hill-has-top-play-opening/

AU and Arkansas/Ole Miss, I guess.

If he's not coming here, I wish he'd just go ahead and eliminate us.  I think the fan base would appreciate not being strung along all the way to NSD, or whenever he's announcing.

[ricepig]

AU and Arkansas/Ole Miss, I guess.

If he's not coming here, I wish he'd just go ahead and eliminate us.  I think the fan base would appreciate not being strung along all the way to NSD, or whenever he's announcing.

Absolutely agree with you on this, I don't but much into kid's top whatever list, much less a relative. When they say there is two, and we are one of them, then I get interested.

[Polecat]

So, one of these guys is visiting Ark and the others said they "might." Not sure we should get our hopes up too high on those guys IMO  :razorback:

[The_Boot_stops_here]

Clay knows if something happens Arkansas will be in the hunt. You get to know the kid and recruit him in the way that gives you the best chance. P.J. Appreciates Clay backing off.
You might do that with other kids. He hasn't backed off of Jaylon Lane. Each kid is different.

agreed...pretty much exactly what I said...if Jennings thought we had a shot at this point, he would still be all over him...but as of now, we don't b/c the kid is firm to OU so why waste the time....if something happens with OU, I'm sure Jennings will be all over it

[NLRHog92]

My feeling is KJ has top 2 of Aubum and the Hogs. Kitty cats have been leading for awhile, but us having the entire offensive staff there for him went a long way. The ones announced on twitter are all teams that would be unique to play for and great teams, but ultimately not where he ends up. Still get a feeling it's AU, but hope I'm wrong. Tired of these NLR guys going to friggin Alabama

[ifghog]

AU and Arkansas/Ole Miss, I guess.

If he's not coming here, I wish he'd just go ahead and eliminate us.  I think the fan base would appreciate not being strung along all the way to NSD, or whenever he's announcing.

Yep if an in-state kid doesn't want to come here they should just come out with it and say I am out. It makes it easier on everyone.

[Oklahawg]

I'd like to find the Auburn bagman who lives in Cent Ark. Follow him around for a while. Snap a pic, or two.

[Adam Stokes]

Does anyone off the top of their head know as to whether we lose more guys that are committed to us then we gain from flipping others?  That would be a fun stat to look at.  Not sure what the best way would be to factor in the guys that the "staff told to look elsewhere" though.

[ricepig]

I'd like to find the Auburn bagman who lives in Cent Ark. Follow him around for a while. Snap a pic, or two.

Hell, I'd like to find ours and tell him to get busy.

[redeye]

I'd like to find the Auburn bagman who lives in Cent Ark. Follow him around for a while. Snap a pic, or two.

I'm surprised by how many vehicles I see with Auburn stickers on them in Little Rock.  Don't really know what that's about, but I'll guess they're Gus supporters.  It seems that most have kids in private schools, because they often have private school stickers, too.

[redeye]

Does anyone off the top of their head know as to whether we lose more guys that are committed to us then we gain from flipping others?  That would be a fun stat to look at.  Not sure what the best way would be to factor in the guys that the "staff told to look elsewhere" though.

Off the top of my head, I'd say that we've flipped more then we've lost.  Can't think of many that we've lost over the years.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

I'd like to find the Auburn bagman who lives in Cent Ark. Follow him around for a while. Snap a pic, or two.

I've always thought these comments are somewhat insulting to our instate recruits...Smiley face or not.  I'd at least wait to use this excuse AFTER he's signed an AU LOI.

[redeye]

I've always thought these comments are somewhat insulting to our instate recruits...Smiley face or not.  I'd at least wait to use this excuse AFTER he's signed an AU LOI.

Are you kidding?

He's talking about Auburn.  When Auburn recruits you, it's insulting if you DON'T get paid!

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Are you kidding?

He's talking about Auburn.  When Auburn recruits you, it's insulting if you DON'T get paid!

I know exactly who he's talking about.  You see, It's a two way street, though.  The bagman still needs a kid to accept what's in the bag.  We typically aren't flattering of kids who don't play by the rules and take the payoff instead.  This kind of stuff suggests a kid like say Hill is on the take.  I know OH is certainly being somewhat facetious, but not completely. 

[Steef]

I know exactly who he's talking about.  You see, It's a two way street, though.  The bagman still needs a kid to accept what's in the bag.  We typically aren't flattering of kids who don't play by the rules and take the payoff instead.  This kind of stuff suggests a kid like say Hill is on the take.  I know OH is certainly being somewhat facetious, but not completely.

Okla is suggesting that Auburn pays its players. Since that has historically been proven, its not exactly news.

And since KJ has not committed anywhere yet, Auburn's stigma does not apply to him.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Okla is suggesting that Auburn pays its players. Since that has historically been proven, its not exactly news.

And since KJ has not committed anywhere yet, Auburn's stigma does not apply to him.

I understand AU's history.  Goodness, people.  But OH seemingly extended the stigma to Hill.  I take it as a suggestion about Hill simply because he's supposedly been favoring AU.  Well, sure, he must be on the take then.  Sounds like Hill is getting paid.  Maybe we shouldn't take a chance with him now.

[Steef]

I understand AU's history.  Goodness, people.  But OH seemingly extended the stigma to Hill.  I take it as a suggestion about Hill simply because he's supposedly been favoring AU.  Well, sure, he must be on the take then.  Sounds like Hill is getting paid.  Maybe we shouldn't take a chance with him now.

Don't think he meant it that way.

[redeye]

I know exactly who he's talking about.  You see, It's a two way street, though.  The bagman still needs a kid to accept what's in the bag.  We typically aren't flattering of kids who don't play by the rules and take the payoff instead.  This kind of stuff suggests a kid like say Hill is on the take.  I know OH is certainly being somewhat facetious, but not completely.

I was kidding and took Oklahawg's comment that way, too.

Auburn's reputation speaks for itself.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Don't think he meant it that way.

Yeah, I'm sure he was speaking more generally, but we tend to say what we mean even when it's veiled in an attempt at facetiousness. 

[Bubba's Bruisers]

I was kidding and took Oklahawg's comment that way, too.

Auburn's reputation speaks for itself.

No worries.

[tophawg19]

I'd like to find the Auburn bagman who lives in Cent Ark. Follow him around for a while. Snap a pic, or two.

snap a neck or two

[SamBuckhart]

Thank you, Mr. Davenport. Appreciate the updates.

[hoglady]

Malzahn will always be a thorn in our side for top in-state recruits.
He knows all the high school coaches and he obviously relates to these kids pretty well. I am keeping my fingers crossed for a decent season - if we have another bad one it's going to be really tough.

[Hawg_Thai'd]

I hope our coaches are telling those Miami kids that the U is prime for having the hammer of justice fall down on them. They just had two players get kicked off and expelled for sexually assaulting a girl. This stuff is adding up and their program will suffer while ours is on the rise.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Malzahn will always be a thorn in our side for top in-state recruits.
He knows all the high school coaches and he obviously relates to these kids pretty well. I am keeping my fingers crossed for a decent season - if we have another bad one it's going to be really tough.

Common sense post.

[mhuff]

As always, thanks for the updates RD. Hope that the Hogs can land some of these kids that are giving them a hard look.

Not part of your Thursday "tidbit's", but I'm shocked that there is no mention by KJ Hill about Arkansas in his top 5. Only listed Alabama, Florida and Oregon. Hope that we don't lose this kid, but it sure doesn't sound positive.

[Vantage 8 dude]

I hope our coaches are telling those Miami kids that the U is prime for having the hammer of justice fall down on them. They just had two players get kicked off and expelled for sexually assaulting a girl. This stuff is adding up and their program will suffer while ours is on the rise.

While I agree that the continued criminal behavior at the "U" obviously doesn't put them in a good light, what else is new, unfortunately as far as any NCAA or other sanctions or actions are concerned forget about it. The only way they'll be cleaned up is within and if (and when) their own administration and football staff get serious about eliminating the perpetual thuggish attitude and environment that's been allowed to fester at the school.

[three hog night]

The Arkansas kids have grown up in the inferiority complex we have, so they listen to a Bama or USC and get stars in their eyes.  We have sucked for 2 years and had way too much drama with Harley Gate, Smile and then CBB's first year with a divided fan base. 

We are going to have to re-build the program before kids like a KJ Hill will have pride that overcomes the glitz factor of Bama or USC. 

[lefty08]

The Arkansas kids have grown up in the inferiority complex we have, so they listen to a Bama or USC and get stars in their eyes.  We have sucked for 2 years and had way too much drama with Harley Gate, Smile and then CBB's first year with a divided fan base. 

We are going to have to re-build the program before kids like a KJ Hill will have pride that overcomes the glitz factor of Bama or USC.

2 whole years?  Thats a gamechanger...