Razorback Recruiting Report (7-6-14)

[Aaron Peters]

Richard Davenport of the Arkansas Democrat Gazette joins our Aaron Peters to bring you the latest in Razorback recruiting. This week we feature the following prospects: KJ Hill (WR, North Little Rock), Will Gragg (TE, Dumas, Arkansas), Tyler Phillips (LB, North Little Rock), Holton Hill (DB, Houston, TX) Will Sunderland (Safety, Midwest City, OK), Roddrick Bryant (WR, St. Louis Christian Brother, 2016 class) and in Arkansas basketball recruiting we feature Juwan Morgan (Power Forward, Waynesvill, MS). 

http://www.nwahomepage.com/fulltextsports/d/story/razorback-recruiting-report-7-6-14/25487/v2RBr6v-00aJZsYnv8AXmw

[Poker_hog]

Our rankings are dropping like a rock.  Was top 10, now barely top 30.

[ricepig]

Our rankings are dropping like a rock.  Was top 10, now barely top 30.

You going on average/recruit, or just total? You have to keep everything in perspective.

[Poker_hog]

You going on average/recruit, or just total? You have to keep everything in perspective.

Going by rivals/247 rankings.  We started off fast then things slowed down.  Everyone is catching up and passing us.

[lefty08]

Going by rivals/247 rankings.  We started off fast then things slowed down.  Everyone is catching up and passing us.

We were at 18 a few days ago. Relax, its july....

[ricepig]

Going by rivals/247 rankings.  We started off fast then things slowed down.  Everyone is catching up and passing us.

The end number is all that matters, we're top 15 if you just take what our recruits average out to. Now, if we get up to 15-20 recruit's and still are in the 30 range, then you can freak out.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

The end number is all that matters, we're top 15 if you just take what our recruits average out to. Now, if we get up to 15-20 recruit's and still are in the 30 range, then you can freak out.

All that matters is how these guys perform 2, 3, 4 years from now.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Our rankings are dropping like a rock.  Was top 10, now barely top 30.

Overreact much?

[ricepig]

All that matters is how these guys perform 2, 3, 4 years from now.

True, but there is some correlation with top classes and top performers.

[Tripod1]

On Hogville numbers don't matter.  The recruiting services are idiots and given time our top 30-40 ranking is going to beat Alabama and their #1 ranking. 

[Poker_hog]

Overreact much?

Just stating facts.  React to them how you wish.

[ricepig]

Just stating facts.  React to them how you wish.

The facts show that we rank in the top 15 for our 10 recruit's averaged numbers. Now, we don't fare well against teams with more than 10 recruit's on the total ranking numbers. Why don't you double our numbers and see where it puts us.

[Poker_hog]

The facts show that we rank in the top 15 for our 10 recruit's averaged numbers. Now, we don't fare well against teams with more than 10 recruit's on the total ranking numbers. Why don't you double our numbers and see where it puts us.

It doesn't work like that.  I'd love to believe that we'll sign 10 four star players but I'll believe it when I see it.

[ricepig]

It doesn't work like that.  I'd love to believe that we'll sign 10 four star players but I'll believe it when I see it.

It also doesn't mean anything when a team with 5-7 more recruits is ahead of you. We'll sign around 25, as will others, then you can compare.

[ricepig]

It doesn't work like that.  I'd love to believe that we'll sign 10 four star players but I'll believe it when I see it.

We don't have to, we can sign 15 more 89 rating guys and our average will go up, that's 15 more 3*.

[870hogfan]

On Hogville numbers don't matter.  The recruiting services are idiots and given time our top 30-40 ranking is going to beat Alabama and their #1 ranking.

Numbers doesn't matter in JULY...

[Bubba's Bruisers]

I bet we finish in the low to mid 20's.  A fudge better than usual.  If we finish with Hill, Gragg, and several SEC caliber back 7 recruits, then all's well.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Just stating facts.  React to them how you wish.

But your "facts" aren't based on "apple to apple" comparisons.

[ZERO]

There are I think six or seven more 4* recruits we have a legitimate shot at, including two in-state prospects. I don't think we're going to end with ten 4* players either, but six or seven total by February is a pretty good possibility. And, again, it's early July. Players are popping up on our radar every week that we hadn't really had a handle on before.

I'm also betting we end somewhere between 20-25. If we reach 15-19 on one of the services, we'll have taken a serious step forward, especially considering we're coming off of 4-8 and 3-9 seasons, and expected to not make a Bowl for a third consecutive year.

[Hoggish1]

Our rankings are dropping like a rock.  Was top 10, now barely top 30.

We are in top 10, still when you take into consideration that we only have 10 commits.  The ranking reward the teams with the most recruits, but it's about the average rating per recruit.  A quick glance shows twenty teams with a lower per player average, but with many more players committed than us, hence a higher total score.

There is no need to panic.

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

Going by rivals/247 rankings.  We started off fast then things slowed down.  Everyone is catching up and passing us.

There's a lot of truth to that, we've only added 3 or 4 commits since we were ranked #6 and it's a numbers game.  We only have 10 commits and we're the 3rd ranked team with 11 or less commits.   I really expected us to have gotten a few more commits coming out of our Elite Sr. camp in June, especially considering we pulled 6 right after camp last year.

Seems like we've missed on a number of Texas recruits we were after and the Florida guys we'll pull will be in season and late in the cycle commits or flips due to not being able to bring them in for official visits yet.   I think we're doing quite a bit of Sr. year evaluations as well, which I prefer.  Kids grow and mature quite a bit in that last year of HS.

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

To address the above post, if you rank by average/commit we're sitting at 19th, not the greatest but better than we've seen in a long time at this point of the recruiting season.

[Wild Bill Hog]

Lots of time left to go at this point.  Probably no reason to be elated or despondent either one.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Our rankings are dropping like a rock.  Was top 10, now barely top 30.

Yet ANOTHER reminder: it isn't particularly important where you are in the middle of the summer. It's where you place and finish on NSD that matters.