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ErieHog

June 27, 2014, 06:02:01 pm
...this may fix most of the problems with Miami, and double the length of LeBron's window.  The addition of two young guys who can handle the ball and take the burden off of LeBron, allowing his game to age and be less off of the bounce is not good for the rest of the League.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

HawgAdvocate

June 27, 2014, 06:05:57 pm #1
Traded for Cole...Wade better take a cut.
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Hogimus Prime

June 27, 2014, 07:26:54 pm #2
If the Big 3 take a pay cut, add Lowry, and then add a rim protector the Heat will be scary good.

ErieHog

June 27, 2014, 07:35:04 pm #3
Quote from: Hogimus Prime on June 27, 2014, 07:26:54 pm
If the Big 3 take a pay cut, add Lowry, and then add a rim protector the Heat will be scary good.

They can probably get by without a rim protector.   This is a massive upgrade for the Heat.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Hogimus Prime

June 27, 2014, 07:38:53 pm #4
Quote from: ErieHog on June 27, 2014, 07:35:04 pm
They can probably get by without a rim protector.   This is a massive upgrade for the Heat.

Probably so, but the rim protector would take them to another level.  Adding Lowry adds another 4 years to Lebron's window.

chiefhawg

June 27, 2014, 08:20:47 pm #5

ErieHog

June 27, 2014, 08:26:37 pm #6
Quote from: chiefhawg on June 27, 2014, 08:20:47 pm
Not happening. It appears that it was a hoax. Ric Bucher issued an apology.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2111401-kyle-lowry-rumors-latest-buzz-and-speculation-surrounding-free-agent-star


Whew.     Yay for Miami falling apart!
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

chiefhawg

June 27, 2014, 08:39:17 pm #7
What was the deal with the Hornets taking Napier for Miami?
1. Was it to keep him away from Houston?
2. Why help a team in the same division?
3. Does the NBA want to ensure that Miami remains relevant?



Hawg Red

June 27, 2014, 09:13:02 pm #8
Quote from: chiefhawg on June 27, 2014, 08:39:17 pm
What was the deal with the Hornets taking Napier for Miami?
1. Was it to keep him away from Houston?
2. Why help a team in the same division?
3. Does the NBA want to ensure that Miami remains relevant?

Charlotte has said their plan all along was to address their backup PG position in free agency with a veteran, so Napier probably wasn't ever in the mix for them. They essentially got something extra for taking a guy they didn't want anyway. Just business.

The_Iceman

June 28, 2014, 08:04:37 am #9
Classic example of the twitter age media. Glad someone finally got taught a lesson.

rzrbackramsfan

June 28, 2014, 08:17:13 am #10
Quote from: HawgAdvocate on June 27, 2014, 06:05:57 pm
Traded for Cole...Wade better take a cut.

Riiigghhhtt

HawgAdvocate

June 28, 2014, 10:11:37 am #11
Quote from: rzrbackramsfan on June 28, 2014, 08:17:13 am
Riiigghhhtt

Wroooong, as Bucher corrected himself. Wade should take a payout though, if he's serious about winning another title.
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rusvegashog

June 28, 2014, 11:22:58 am #12
I just read that the deal is still imminent.
 

forrest city joe

June 28, 2014, 01:08:43 pm #13
Quote from: Hogimus Prime on June 27, 2014, 07:26:54 pm
If the Big 3 take a pay cut, add Lowry, and then add a rim protector the Heat will be scary good.
Spurs and OKC still would beat them. Tim Duncan.

Hogimus Prime

June 28, 2014, 01:17:17 pm #14
Quote from: forrest city joe on June 28, 2014, 01:08:43 pm
Spurs and OKC still would beat them. Tim Duncan.

Spurs maybe.  OKC no.  Durant is scared of Lebron.

yraciv

June 28, 2014, 01:18:56 pm #15
Quote from: forrest city joe on June 28, 2014, 01:08:43 pm
Spurs and OKC still would beat them. Tim Duncan.
Heat are 4-2 against OKC the last 3 years. They match up very well with them.  OKC has some serious retooling to do themselves, and I have no idea what they were trying to accomplish with their draft picks.  It's way too premature to know what the Heat's roster will look like next year, but the addition of Lowry in itself would solve one of their few weaknesses.

The Spurs are the Spurs.  Their big 3 makes half of what the Heat's do.   If the Heat's Big 3 all cut back to 15 million per, it could free the room to get that other difference maker.  The Heat aren't as far behind the Spurs as that series made it seem, and who knows when but eventually age will catch up to San Antonio.  At least I think...

rzrbackramsfan

June 28, 2014, 01:59:20 pm #16
Quote from: HawgAdvocate on June 28, 2014, 10:11:37 am
Wroooong, as Bucher corrected himself. Wade should take a payout though, if he's serious about winning another title.

Hey maybe he should take a paycut instead.

HawgAdvocate

June 28, 2014, 02:03:41 pm #17
Quote from: rzrbackramsfan on June 28, 2014, 01:59:20 pm
Hey maybe he should take a paycut instead.

Riiiiiight - thanks to the iPad's spellcheck
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rzrbackramsfan

June 28, 2014, 02:17:21 pm #18
Quote from: HawgAdvocate on June 28, 2014, 02:03:41 pm
Riiiiiight - thanks to the iPad's spellcheck

It was probably Anderson's fault for not changing his staff.

HawgAdvocate

June 28, 2014, 02:26:52 pm #19
Quote from: rzrbackramsfan on June 28, 2014, 02:17:21 pm
It was probably Anderson's fault for not changing his staff.

Nope. Just mine and the iPad's.
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ErieHog

June 28, 2014, 02:47:46 pm #20
Quote from: yraciv on June 28, 2014, 01:18:56 pm
Heat are 4-2 against OKC the last 3 years. They match up very well with them.  OKC has some serious retooling to do themselves, and I have no idea what they were trying to accomplish with their draft picks.  It's way too premature to know what the Heat's roster will look like next year, but the addition of Lowry in itself would solve one of their few weaknesses.

The Spurs are the Spurs.  Their big 3 makes half of what the Heat's do.   If the Heat's Big 3 all cut back to 15 million per, it could free the room to get that other difference maker.  The Heat aren't as far behind the Spurs as that series made it seem, and who knows when but eventually age will catch up to San Antonio.  At least I think...

The Lowry Addition would have addressed *multiple* weaknesses in the Heat lineup, simultaneously,  and would have reduced the burden for creating shots that provides tremendous wear and tear through the course of a season on LeBron.

Everyone who hates the Heat, should be glad this is not happening.  It'd make them a prohibitive favorite to win the title next year.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

husker71

June 28, 2014, 03:10:24 pm #21
I like Cole and I know they like Chalmers because he can guard "normally" pretty well but my god he has to make a shot sometime during the series.  He has made big shots before but he is getting like Steve Sax throwing from second.  The dropoff on both Battier and Birdman really hurt them this year.  They cant have another off season like last year when they only got Oden and Beasley.

ErieHog

June 28, 2014, 03:15:05 pm #22
Quote from: husker71 on June 28, 2014, 03:10:24 pm
I like Cole and I know they like Chalmers because he can guard "normally" pretty well but my god he has to make a shot sometime during the series.  He has made big shots before but he is getting like Steve Sax throwing from second.  The dropoff on both Battier and Birdman really hurt them this year.  They cant have another off season like last year when they only got Oden and Beasley.

Cole has had a lot of chances to show more than he has;  I wouldn't be surprised at all, if they moved on from both him and Chalmers-- I think that the draft choice shows they want to completely retool that backcourt.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

yraciv

June 28, 2014, 03:30:47 pm #23
Quote from: husker71 on June 28, 2014, 03:10:24 pm
I like Cole and I know they like Chalmers because he can guard "normally" pretty well but my god he has to make a shot sometime during the series.  He has made big shots before but he is getting like Steve Sax throwing from second.  The dropoff on both Battier and Birdman really hurt them this year.  They cant have another off season like last year when they only got Oden and Beasley.

I'm under the opinion both Beasley and Oden should have played. Alas I'm not in practice and don't have anyway to stay up on Oden's current health.  I just know what my eye test tells me.  When Beasley is on, he is instant offense and they weren't getting that from anyone on the bench this postseason.  Yet they still choose to play the aging Rashard Lewis over him. My eyes also tell me Oden is still a load to handle when he is in the game.  I'd rather have him pushing around Duncan/Hibbert for however brief stints he could go than Udonis Haslem. Other than Cole, Birdman, & Allen I saw few guys off that bench that earned their PT.
 

The_Bionic_Pig

June 28, 2014, 03:51:39 pm #24
Nothing can be made public on Kyle until after July 1....that is why Wade & Bosh have yet to announce they are restructuring their contracts to accommodate the addition.   

Also Pat Riley is indeed in search of rim protection.
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jry04

June 28, 2014, 03:53:39 pm #25
Bucher was saying Bosh was part of the deal to send Lowry to Miami. That may have been the part that he was lied to about.


Many other reports are still saying Lowry will end up with the Heat. Both the Heat and Lowry have expressed interest in each other. With the big 3 and Haslem opting out, they will have the money to get Lowry. I think Gortat may end up with the Heat, as well. The Heat are going to spend, and they will make a splash this offseason.

ErieHog

June 28, 2014, 03:58:39 pm #26
Quote from: yraciv on June 28, 2014, 03:30:47 pm
I'm under the opinion both Beasley and Oden should have played. Alas I'm not in practice and don't have anyway to stay up on Oden's current health.  I just know what my eye test tells me.  When Beasley is on, he is instant offense and they weren't getting that from anyone on the bench this postseason.  Yet they still choose to play the aging Rashard Lewis over him. My eyes also tell me Oden is still a load to handle when he is in the game.  I'd rather have him pushing around Duncan/Hibbert for however brief stints he could go than Udonis Haslem. Other than Cole, Birdman, & Allen I saw few guys off that bench that earned their PT.

Beasley brings too many liabilities to the table, and at least Lewis gives you another ball handler, without a huge drop off offensively.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

husker71

June 28, 2014, 04:40:05 pm #27
here was what I think the deal with Lewis was.  You put him in one corner and Bosh or Allen in the other and open the middle for LeBron to go down the middle and if one of those players defenders comes over it goes to the corner.  For you oldtimers the Lakers kind of tried the same thing with Jabbar.  The Lakers brought in a bunch of shooters like Lou Hudson and Dwight Lamar hoping that opponents could not double team him.  It did not work so they brought in Adrian Dantley who really brought in more defenders to double team Jabbar.
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