What should we expect once the system is in place?

[LR54]

You have to be pretty bad at passing the ball to have more rushing yards than passing years 3 out of 7 years.  For example, if you throw 40% of the time which I think is reasonable, you will accumulate many more passing yards than running yards.  I watch WISC play before BB was hired and my first thought was "back to Nutt-ball" when BB was hired.  It is what it is.  The passing game will never get the focus of the running game.

That might be true if you weren't winning conference championships and going to BCS bowls. In Wisconsin's case, it just meant they had one of the nation's best running games and a balanced yardage offense. They still had over 200 ypg passing in 2 out of the 3 years when they had more rushing yards than passing yards.

They had the fewest passing yards in 2012, having to play 3 different QBs due to injuries, and with a new OC. Finished with 5506 total yards and the #2 ranked offense in the B1G, behind Nebraska. The same team they curb stomped in the B1G championship game.

[hawgsalot]

His point was BB's teams are hard to watch???

Yeah I bet you wouldn't trade 1 BCS bowls for 3 or No conference titles for 3?  We get it you like fancy passing trees that have to outscore everybody all the while watching your D get abused by the good teams.

[ChitownHawg]

His point was BB's teams are hard to watch???

If you say so Mr. Sunshine. 

[PorkRinds]

The answer to this question is easy.  We should expect people to still complain like little girls unless we run a pass happy offense.

[HiggiePiggy]

The answer to this question is easy.  We should expect people to still complain like little girls unless we run a pass happy offense.

Actually it's more of if we win games and get back to what we were before April 2012. Most of the people want to have a winning program.

[hogsanity]

Actually it's more of if we win games and get back to what we were before April 2012. Most of the people want to have a winning program.

I will guarantee if the Hogs go 9-3 this year, somehow, but the games are all 20-14 17-13 variety, there will be plenty of people complaining about HOW they won 9 games, not rejoicing in the fact that they won 9 games.

[LZH]

The answer to this question is easy.  We should expect people to still complain like little girls unless we run a pass happy offense.

Not all of us.  I've never had a problem with a run-heavy offense.  I have a problem with not knowing how to use it.

[HiggiePiggy]

I will guarantee if the Hogs go 9-3 this year, somehow, but the games are all 20-14 17-13 variety, there will be plenty of people complaining about HOW they won 9 games, not rejoicing in the fact that they won 9 games.

Majority would be happy.  No one cares about the people that want high flying yards with us losing.

Right now a lot have good reason to complain about everything.  We went 4-8 2 years ago and 3-9 last year.  People want better results and there is a good chance they won't see that this year. 

[lefty08]

You have to be pretty bad at passing the ball to have more rushing yards than passing years 3 out of 7 years.  For example, if you throw 40% of the time which I think is reasonable, you will accumulate many more passing yards than running yards.  I watch WISC play before BB was hired and my first thought was "back to Nutt-ball" when BB was hired.  It is what it is.  The passing game will never get the focus of the running game.

Nor should it, you dont win consistently in the SEC passing more. It just doesnt happen. Before u mention 2 years with Petrino (which im sure u will) there is zero chance he would have sustained that success for a decade. A good running game makes it possible to sustain for a decade. Its simple to me.

[HiggiePiggy]

Nor should it, you dont win consistently in the SEC passing more. It just doesnt happen. Before u mention 2 years with Petrino (which im sure u will) there is zero chance he would have sustained that success for a decade. A good running game makes it possible to sustain for a decade. Its simple to me.

Petrino wasn't an all pass coach.  He was pretty balanced when it comes to pass/rushing attempts. 

[870hogfan]

You have to be pretty bad at passing the ball to have more rushing yards than passing years 3 out of 7 years.  For example, if you throw 40% of the time which I think is reasonable, you will accumulate many more passing yards than running yards.  I watch WISC play before BB was hired and my first thought was "back to Nutt-ball" when BB was hired.  It is what it is.  The passing game will never get the focus of the running game.

Nm

[870hogfan]

You have to be pretty bad at passing the ball to have more rushing yards than passing years 3 out of 7 years.  For example, if you throw 40% of the time which I think is reasonable, you will accumulate many more passing yards than running yards.  I watch WISC play before BB was hired and my first thought was "back to Nutt-ball" when BB was hired.  It is what it is.  The passing game will never get the focus of the running game.

It is what it is.  You will gripe at coach B no matter what he does...

[lefty08]

Petrino wasn't an all pass coach.  He was pretty balanced when it comes to pass/rushing attempts.

as is BB, thanks for agreeing with me

[LZH]

It is what it is.  You will gripe at coach B no matter what he does...

I'm disappointed that you haven't given me a kick in the nuts in over a week.  What's up?

[MuskogeeHogFan]

I will guarantee if the Hogs go 9-3 this year, somehow, but the games are all 20-14 17-13 variety, there will be plenty of people complaining about HOW they won 9 games, not rejoicing in the fact that they won 9 games.

I think that you are right. The complaint then would be, "how boring, I'm sick of seeing that 6 yard dive play on first down".

[Chief Mac]

It is hard to see positives when what you are looking FOR is BAD...

FIFY

[Chief Mac]

Petrino wasn't an all pass coach.  He was pretty balanced when it comes to pass/rushing attempts. 

yet only had an adequate rushing attack for only 2/3 of one season he was here.  You must not remember the talk EVERY year he was here of why couldn't seem to get the running game going.  If we had been able to run the ball the early part of 2010, we would have won the Bama game.  Instead of Knile eating up the clock to keep the lead, we had Mallett throwing picks to give Bama the game.

Balance is not even number attempts.  Balance is being able to pass or run when you want to or need to. 

[MuskogeeHogFan]

yet only had an adequate rushing attack for only 2/3 of one season he was here.  You must not remember the talk EVERY year he was here of why couldn't seem to get the running game going.  If we had been able to run the ball the early part of 2010, we would have won the Bama game.  Instead of Knile eating up the clock to keep the lead, we had Mallett throwing picks to give Bama the game.

Balance is not even number attempts.  Balance is being able to pass or run when you want to or need to. 

"That's something that's really important for us because I do feel that we'll have a lot of games this year that will come down to the fourth quarter. And how well you take care of the ball and how well you run it will make the difference."  Bobby Petrino

We never saw this concept come to fruition under BP.

[Chief Mac]

"That's something that's really important for us because I do feel that we'll have a lot of games this year that will come down to the fourth quarter. And how well you take care of the ball and how well you run it will make the difference."  Bobby Petrino

We never saw this concept come to fruition under BP.

we saw it....for the last half of the 2010 season.  That was it. 

[870hogfan]

I'm disappointed that you haven't given me a kick in the nuts in over a week.  What's up?

Going to be a long weekend.  lol anyways have a good Memorial Day weekend.

[LZH]

Going to be a long weekend.  lol anyways have a good Memorial Day weekend.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

yet only had an adequate rushing attack for only 2/3 of one season he was here.  You must not remember the talk EVERY year he was here of why couldn't seem to get the running game going.  If we had been able to run the ball the early part of 2010, we would have won the Bama game.  Instead of Knile eating up the clock to keep the lead, we had Mallett throwing picks to give Bama the game.

Balance is not even number attempts.  Balance is being able to pass or run when you want to or need to. 

The point is BP certainly attempted to be balanced, but without much success.  It 'twas the same for BB last season.  Maybe we'll see success at being balanced this season.  And maybe our defense will be marginally competent.  It's one step at a time right now...or on baby step at a time.  Lots of ground to make up.  Especially with restoring talent.

[Jek Tono Porkins]

we saw it....for the last half of the 2010 season.  That was it.

Yup, that was it. The biggest game Petrino won while he was here was the 2010 LSU game and that strategy worked, BUT the defense also showed up big and negated some mistakes by the offense and special teams.

In college football, you can only do so much. You can't have a great offense, great defense, and great special teams unless you really hit the jackpot with the talent you've signed and the coordinators you've hired. There are only a few teams throughout college football history that were able to be great in all three phases of the game...the '71 and '95 Nebraska Cornhuskers, 2001 Miami Hurricanes, and maybe the 2005 Longhorns. But that's about it. I'm sure some other people would be able to come up with a few more.

The point being, plenty of coaches can put up 40-50 points a game, but they also give up 40-50 points a game.
There's a few coaches that do the opposite; great defense but bad offense.

The best thing you can do, IMO, is try to be solid in all three phases of the game. You don't have to be great in all three phases to be successful, but it gives you options if things start to go awry.

[Mike_e]

The point is BP certainly attempted to be balanced, but without much success.  It 'twas the same for BB last season.  Maybe we'll see success at being balanced this season.  And maybe our defense will be marginally competent.  It's one step at a time right now...or on baby step at a time.  Lots of ground to make up.  Especially with restoring talent.

I don't know how serious that attempt was by bp though.  He seemed to sacrifice everything to his passing attack.  If you don't practice the run you won't be very good at it.

It appears that BB's offensive concepts have the passing game as a part of it instead of two separate entities.