Collins and Williams on Heisman Watchlist

[bennyl08]

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2014/post-spring-heisman-watch-list-2014/

From the Heisman Pundit's annual post-spring watch list, Collins and Williams were 2 of 7 SEC players on the list. The others include Mike Davis, Todd Gurley, Derrick Henry, Nick Marshall, and TJ Yeldon. A bit surprised Prescott isn't on the list, but 6 of the 7 are RB's.

[HogFanatic]

Congratulations are in order.
:razorback:

[OptimusHog]

Unfortunately, Heisman winners need to be on teams that win 9-10+ games a year. Hopefully they will both have their chance at it, but I doubt it will be this season. Hope I'm wrong though  :razorback:

[Razorhawg09]

Our 3rd team back is on the Heisman watch list.

[popcornhog]

Our 3rd team back is on the Heisman watch list.

I doubt Korliss is on the watch list based on just the Spring game and a great off season.

He's gonna be a good one though. Three incredibly good 1st team quality running backs, no doubt.

[PorkRinds]

Our 3rd team back is on the Heisman watch list.

I mean, he is the best player on the team after all.

[HogFanatic]

I mean, he is the best player on the team after all.

Best ever. Any team, any position.
He will win at least two heismans before he leaves here.

[PorkRinds]

Best ever. Any team, any position.
He will win at least two heismans before he leaves here.

Yep. Dmac will be referred to as Korliss 1.0 after his time on the hill.

[HogFanatic]

Yep. Dmac will be referred to as Korliss 1.0 after his time on the hill.

And Manziel will be henceforth known as Korliss Prototype instead of Johnny Football.

[Pork Twain]

Best ever. Any team, any position.
He will win at least two heismans before he leaves here.

Likely in the same year

[Jek Tono Porkins]

I don't think a running back will win the Heisman ever again. With the emergence of the freak show QB's such as Cam Newton, RG3, the Money Badger, and Jameis Winston, a running back is going to have to pretty much be a Barry Sanders to win the Heisman. If Montee Ball couldn't do it with 1,923 yards and 33 rushing TD's in 2011 then it pretty much can't be done. The whole thing is a joke anyway.

I do think that one of our running backs will end up winning the Doak Walker Award sometime in the near future.

[redswarmrising]

Best ever. Any team, any position.
He will win at least two heismans before he leaves here.

the heisman will be renamed The Marshall Trophy before the start of next season

[Pork Twain]

Likely to allow him to go into the NFL halfway through the season.

[SamBuckhart]

I like them both but Collins the more likely. IMO.

[Razorhawg09]

I like them both but Collins the more likely. IMO.

Williams is the best player on the team. Collins will never win a Heisman because he's incapable of breaking a big play. No home run ability.

[Pork Twain]

Williams is the best player on the team. Collins will never win a Heisman because he's incapable of breaking a big play. No home run ability.

Ummm, second best playa

[bennyl08]

Williams is the best player on the team. Collins will never win a Heisman because he's incapable of breaking a big play. No home run ability.

Didn't stop Ingram from winning it. Admittedly, the year he won, nobody out there deserved a heisman. Then the next season, several truly deserved it.

[Razorhawg09]

Didn't stop Ingram from winning it. Admittedly, the year he won, nobody out there deserved a heisman. Then the next season, several truly deserved it.

Ingram could break the big play.

[lahawg1]

Way too early to be talking Heisman but congrats are in order for making that list.

[poloprince]

Neither is better than Dmac

[GlassofSwine]

Williams is the best player on the team. Collins will never win a Heisman because he's incapable of breaking a big play. No home run ability.

  I think Collins has plenty of home run ability, we can't forget he was a true freshmen with a mediocre at best a passing game to aid him. He might not have the top end speed of Marshall and he is less likely to go 80 yards up the middle but before all is said and done I expect you will get quite a few big runs out of him.

[Deep Shoat]

Neither is better than Dmac

DMac isn't here. 

And we will see, after they finish their careers at Arkansas.

[twistitup]

Derby got left off the list? How?

[HogFanatic]

Derby got left off the list? How?

Good point.
I hear Derby is a world beater at the tight end position.

[SPAL]

All kidding aside, if Kane Whitehurt doesn't win it then the thing is rigged.

[rzrbackramsfan]

Korliss is gonna lead the team in rushing yards IMO.

[bennyl08]

Ingram could break the big play.

Ingram ran a 4.6 forty. I mean, I guess technically Broderick Green could break the big play too considering his record can never be beaten, only tied, but Ingram's longest run his heisman year was for 54 vs us, that included several broken tackles and such downfield. Second longest run was for 50 vs Duke. He did manage a 70 yarder vs MSU in 2009, but again, throughout his career, he only had 4 runs over 50.

[secneahog]

Ingram could break the big play.

Ingram isn't faster than Collins.

[Magic_Hogg]

Boy I would love to see one of these guys win it.  DMAC should have got it.  Would love to see a Hog win it.

As an aside, I don't see why they don't have 2 Heismann's.  One for O and one for D.  D players are virtually frozen out of Heismann contention in tabor of QB's, RB's and Receivers - the excitement positions I suppose.

[zane]

Yep. Dmac will be referred to as Korliss 1.0 after his time on the hill.

Winner!

[redeye]

I'm actually surprised by this.  I can sorta see Collins, because he's received so much hype, but I certainly didn't expect to see Williams.  Not saying he isn't deserving, but just didn't expect to see him.

[Ugly Uncle]

Derby got left off the list? How?

This made me laugh out loud.

[LSUFan]

Unfortunately, Heisman winners need to be on teams that win 9-10+ games a year. Hopefully they will both have their chance at it, but I doubt it will be this season. Hope I'm wrong though  :razorback:

Paul Hornung...Notre Dame, 1956...total bs. N.D. won 2 lost 8.  Did I ever mention I HATE that school?

[FelixJonesorDMAC?]

If DMac couldn't win it, I just don't see either of these guys winning it.  Although Collins I believe is a special player, Dmac was a once in a lifetime collegiate athlete.  Although I hope I'm wrong.

[rusvegashog]

I really am pulling for Williams to do good things. He came to Arkansas w such a positive energy, he seemed genuinely appreciative at the opportunity to be a Razorback. I pull for all the backs equally, but I appreciated that about Williams and thus I root for the young cat. I hope they're all successful.

[rusvegashog]

I also feel that comparisons in the three to each other or to DMAC or whoever else are counterproductive, uncomfortable and unfair. Times the only thing that will tell anything, and these three backs have the ability and opportunity to change the course of this program. You may laugh at the reference to Coach Pelphrey, but there is a reason he is so beloved in Kentucky. He was apart of helping to turn around a proud program as a player and these 3 backs have that same sort of opportunity as I see it here w this proud program. Wish them all nothing but the best.

[Hawgzinbowlz]

Congratulations to Jonathan and Alex.

Having two running backs on the watch list can only help in our future recruiting of RBs.

" GO HOGS "

[DeltaBoy]

Congrads to both young men.

[bennyl08]

If DMac couldn't win it, I just don't see either of these guys winning it.  Although Collins I believe is a special player, Dmac was a once in a lifetime collegiate athlete.  Although I hope I'm wrong.

How many better players than Ingram has Bama had? Trent and Yeldon are both better backs, and Trent even put up better numbers. It is all about timing. Also, RG3 won it going 9-3, so not exactly in the title hunt. If we could somehow go 8-4 with one of our guys hitting at least 1500 yards, they would have a good shot of at least going to NY. The key would be td's. On average, you should have about 1 td for every 100 yards.

[Ugly Uncle]

How many better players than Ingram has Bama had? Trent and Yeldon are both better backs, and Trent even put up better numbers. It is all about timing. Also, RG3 won it going 9-3, so not exactly in the title hunt. If we could somehow go 8-4 with one of our guys hitting at least 1500 yards, they would have a good shot of at least going to NY. The key would be td's. On average, you should have about 1 td for every 100 yards.

Also, to go along with your point about timing...DMac should have won it as a soph, but people didn't vote for him because Soph. just didn't win the Heisman back then.  The next year as a Jr. he should have won it, but the Tebow craze was out of hand.

I do think it will be tough for a RB to win it with QB's playing in a run option spread.  It is all about high light and "Heisman moments" now.  Passing TDs and a QB running around gets more play on Sportscenter than a RB getting a few nice runs.

[HogFanatic]

Paul Hornung...Notre Dame, 1956...total bs. N.D. won 2 lost 8.  Did I ever mention I HATE that school?

Man, things are way different in college football nowadays. They are giving the trophies to freakin' freshmen now. Freshmen who go on to have repeat run-ins with the law.

They give the trophy to the best system quarterback nowadays.

[razorbackkid]

I'd really like to see Brandon Allen on that list. 

[HiggiePiggy]

Didn't stop Ingram from winning it. Admittedly, the year he won, nobody out there deserved a heisman. Then the next season, several truly deserved it.

Actually the year he won is the one of the few years I thought they got it wrong.  I thought it should have gone to Toby Gearhart.

[HiggiePiggy]

Also, to go along with your point about timing...DMac should have won it as a soph, but people didn't vote for him because Soph. just didn't win the Heisman back then.  The next year as a Jr. he should have won it, but the Tebow craze was out of hand.

I do think it will be tough for a RB to win it with QB's playing in a run option spread.  It is all about high light and "Heisman moments" now.  Passing TDs and a QB running around gets more play on Sportscenter than a RB getting a few nice runs.

Actually I disagree that he should have won over Tebow.  I do agree though that he should have won over Troy Smith.

[Ugly Uncle]

Actually I disagree that he should have won over Tebow.  I do agree though that he should have won over Troy Smith.

You are right, Tebow's numbers were crazy that year.  Just frustrating that they gave it to a Soph when the year before they wouldn't give it to a Soph.

[Ethan2010]

Actually the year he won is the one of the few years I thought they got it wrong.  I thought it should have gone to Toby Gearhart.

I agree, Toby deserved that award.

[bennyl08]

I really remember his stats being equally as unimpressive as everyone else that year. Just looked it up, 1800 yards with 27 td's and 5.5 ypc. Another case of memory failing.

[Modsquad24]

3-9 teams don't have guys win Heisman trophy's kinda moot point, but glad they got brought up any how

[popcornhog]

How many better players than Ingram has Bama had? Trent and Yeldon are both better backs, and Trent even put up better numbers. It is all about timing. Also, RG3 won it going 9-3, so not exactly in the title hunt. If we could somehow go 8-4 with one of our guys hitting at least 1500 yards, they would have a good shot of at least going to NY. The key would be td's. On average, you should have about 1 td for every 100 yards.

McFadden would've won it if we had won more games in 07.

[popcornhog]

3-9 teams don't have guys win Heisman trophy's kinda moot point, but glad they got brought up any how

You're predicting 3-9?

I highly doubt we'll win enough games this year to get our guys seriously in the conversation, but I fully expect to be better than 3-9.