Patriots may draft a quarterback

[tolle72120]

Reports are that the Patriots are looking to draft a quarterback ...possibly Teddy Bridgewater to be a understudy to Tom Brady...With all the trade rumors surrounding Mallet and no takers ..does this mean that Mallets stock has fallen with the Patriots?

[ErieHog]

Reports are that the Patriots are looking to draft a quarterback ...possibly Teddy Bridgewater to be a understudy to Tom Brady...With all the trade rumors surrounding Mallet and no takers ..does this mean that Mallets stock has fallen with the Patriots?

This is the model they follow;  keep in mind they were comfortable at backup QB when they brought in Mallett.   You bring in a new guy every 2-3 years.

[Hogarusa]

The Pats aren't going to take a QB in round 1, that's the only way they would get Bridgewater.

[HiggiePiggy]

The Pats aren't going to take a QB in round 1, that's the only way they would get Bridgewater.

No, but they could take AJ Mcaaron(sp) in the 3rd or 4th round possibly.

[lefty08]

The Pats aren't going to take a QB in round 1, that's the only way they would get Bridgewater.

I don't think teddy goes round 1

[OnTheHillHogFan]

I don't think teddy goes round 1

He will and if he falls to the Patriots they would probably run to the podium to take him.

[hoggusamoungus]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/new-england-patriots-continue-showing-interest-in-quarterback-prospects-191208352-nfl.html

[seasonhog]

Reports are that the Patriots are looking to draft a quarterback ...possibly Teddy Bridgewater to be a understudy to Tom Brady...With all the trade rumors surrounding Mallet and no takers ..does this mean that Mallets stock has fallen with the Patriots?

A trade could happen before or during the draft, if not Ryan need to have a good pre-season...

Houston or Cleveland still possible.

Raiders to trade or cut Pryor by mon....wish Wilson would have been giving a better shot.

[LZH]

No, but they could take AJ Mcaaron(sp) in the 3rd or 4th round possibly.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he turned out to be the best pro QB of this class.

[Jek Tono Porkins]

A trade could happen before or during the draft, if not Ryan need to have a good pre-season...

Houston or Cleveland still possible.

Raiders to trade or cut Pryor by mon....wish Wilson would have been giving a better shot.

I'm glad Wilson got out of Oakland. It's the graveyard of pro football careers.

[HiggiePiggy]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he turned out to be the best pro QB of this class.

Neither would I.  Looking at this class it does look like a bad draft for QBs.

[LL COOL HOG]

Neither would I.  Looking at this class it does look like a bad draft for QBs.

I wouldn't say a bad draft for QB's. That was last year's class.

As of today it's to early to get a gauge on other teams interest on Mallett. Lets see how the Draft unfolds first. We could have trades that could impact a teams QB decisions.

[bphi11ips]

No, but they could take AJ Mcaaron(sp) in the 3rd or 4th round possibly.

This.  AJ McCarron is a carbon copy of Tom Brady.

[bulldog04]

It's all a game.  They probably want teams to believe they want a QB so a team will reach for one.  When they drafted Mallett everything was pretty much quiet about QBs.  Don't believe anything you hear about the Pats and the draft. They are very sneaky.

[jgphillips3]

This.  AJ McCarron is a carbon copy of Tom Brady.

Please understand that I don't say this in the usual Hogville way, but how exactly do you see that.  When I saw Brady beat us in the citrus bowl I was shocked how good he was.  AJ has usually had almost a pro level offensive line in front of him and he has never wowed me.  What do you see in him that reminds you of Brady?  AJ seems like a serviceable college player who is a good QB, but I just don't know if I see pro potential in him in that I don't think his arm strength, release and accuracy will be good enough to be anywhere near Brady levels.  I see him more as a journeyman type QB who permanently holds a clip board, but draws a check and hangs around 12-15 years.  Who knows though.  It's always fun to speculate.

[HiggiePiggy]

Please understand that I don't say this in the usual Hogville way, but how exactly do you see that.  When I saw Brady beat us in the citrus bowl I was shocked how good he was.  AJ has usually had almost a pro level offensive line in front of him and he has never wowed me.  What do you see in him that reminds you of Brady?  AJ seems like a serviceable college player who is a good QB, but I just don't know if I see pro potential in him in that I don't think his arm strength, release and accuracy will be good enough to be anywhere near Brady levels.  I see him more as a journeyman type QB who permanently holds a clip board, but draws a check and hangs around 12-15 years.  Who knows though.  It's always fun to speculate.

They see the game manager in him low amount of turnovers.  You have to remember when Brady won his Super Bowls he was more of a game manager than the key piece of winning. 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00/super-bowl/

The second Super Bowl was more of him.  His first one was more about the defense and the 3rd was more about the defense also.

[Big Poppa Z]

Reports are that the Patriots are looking to draft a quarterback ...possibly Teddy Bridgewater to be a understudy to Tom Brady...With all the trade rumors surrounding Mallet and no takers ..does this mean that Mallets stock has fallen with the Patriots?

It would certainly imply that they do not -- similar to all of the NFL teams who initially passed on him in the NFL draft -- perceive him as even an adequate starter in the league after THREE YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT behind one of the premier players in the game.

1.  Mallett had Dan McGwire written all over him at draft time.
2.  The next Petrino developed QB who consistently succeeds in the NFL will be the first.
3.  Witness Tyler Wilson as yet another glaring example.

At this point, Mallett might (might!) get one shot to lead a QB desperate team desiring a Band Aid player who is entering (next season) the latter end of his twenties for cheap.  Given that shot I bet his archaic crane delivery, poor accuracy, wilting under pressure and ability to pass his team out of the position to win relegates him to the bench by Week Four.

Obviously, the Patriots get that.

Oh, Mallett will get paid.  He'll, also, likely hang around for a decade.  But it's time to realize that every last person who believed he was coached at Arkansas by someone worthy of respect or that he was/is considered anything but a serviceable player (at best) by NFL types was wrong.

Those of us who knew better from jump continue to be validated.   :razorback:

[hawganatic]

Reports are that the Patriots are looking to draft a quarterback ...possibly Teddy Bridgewater to be a understudy to Tom Brady...With all the trade rumors surrounding Mallet and no takers ..does this mean that Mallets stock has fallen with the Patriots?

All it means they don't expect Mallett to be on the team when Brady decides to step down.  This is the last year in Mallett's contract.  He's either going to be traded or move to a new team as a free agent after the season.  They're looking at a QB to groom for Brady's replacement, who they can keep for 3-4 years on behind him.

[seasonhog]

It would certainly imply that they do not -- similar to all of the NFL teams who initially passed on him in the NFL draft -- perceive him as even an adequate starter in the league after THREE YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT behind one of the premier players in the game.

1.  Mallett had Dan McGwire written all over him at draft time.
2.  The next Petrino developed QB who consistently succeeds in the NFL will be the first.
3.  Witness Tyler Wilson as yet another glaring example.

At this point, Mallett might (might!) get one shot to lead a QB desperate team desiring a Band Aid player who is entering (next season) the latter end of his twenties for cheap.  Given that shot I bet his archaic crane delivery, poor accuracy, wilting under pressure and ability to pass his team out of the position to win relegates him to the bench by Week Four.

Obviously, the Patriots get that.

Oh, Mallett will get paid.  He'll, also, likely hang around for a decade.  But it's time to realize that every last person who believed he was coached at Arkansas by someone worthy of respect or that he was/is considered anything but a serviceable player (at best) by NFL types was wrong.

Those of us who knew better from jump continue to be validated.   :razorback:

WRONG......

A cheap hit post...............

If NE thought that way mallett would not be the back up..........

[Shorttimer]

This has nothing to do with Mallett's ability, and everything to do with the Patriot's roster philosophy.  They don't overpay anybody.  Mallett's about to have to get paid based on years of service, which means that the Pats will dump him to the highest bidder.

[Pork Twain]

Smart teams have them stacked at that position

[HiggiePiggy]

Smart teams have them stacked at that position

In college yes. In pros it's not that easy to get stacked at QB. 

[Pork Twain]

In college yes. In pros it's not that easy to get stacked at QB.

Draft one in the 2-4 round every 2-3 years = if you did it right, you are stacked.

[Fatty McGee]

This has nothing to do with Mallett's ability, and everything to do with the Patriot's roster philosophy.  They don't overpay anybody.  Mallett's about to have to get paid based on years of service, which means that the Pats will dump him to the highest bidder.

Fans who watch mostly college ball have a hard time understanding how much this matters.

[EastexHawg]

2.  The next Petrino developed QB who consistently succeeds in the NFL will be the first.
3.  Witness Tyler Wilson as yet another glaring example.

Obviously, the Patriots get that.

it's time to realize that every last person who believed he was coached at Arkansas by someone worthy of respect or that he was/is considered anything but a serviceable player (at best) by NFL types was wrong.

Can you give us a list of outstanding NFL QBs coached by Nick Saban at Michigan State, LSU, or Alabama?

[PonderinHog]

It would certainly imply that they do not -- similar to all of the NFL teams who initially passed on him in the NFL draft -- perceive him as even an adequate starter in the league after THREE YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT behind one of the premier players in the game.

1.  Mallett had Dan McGwire written all over him at draft time.
2.  The next Petrino developed QB who consistently succeeds in the NFL will be the first.
3.  Witness Tyler Wilson as yet another glaring example.

At this point, Mallett might (might!) get one shot to lead a QB desperate team desiring a Band Aid player who is entering (next season) the latter end of his twenties for cheap.  Given that shot I bet his archaic crane delivery, poor accuracy, wilting under pressure and ability to pass his team out of the position to win relegates him to the bench by Week Four.

Obviously, the Patriots get that.

Oh, Mallett will get paid.  He'll, also, likely hang around for a decade.  But it's time to realize that every last person who believed he was coached at Arkansas by someone worthy of respect or that he was/is considered anything but a serviceable player (at best) by NFL types was wrong.

Those of us who knew better from jump continue to be validated.   :razorback:

Obvious Nutt Hugging troll is back, obviously.

[woodrow hog call]

This has nothing to do with Mallett's ability, and everything to do with the Patriot's roster philosophy.  They don't overpay anybody.  Mallett's about to have to get paid based on years of service, which means that the Pats will dump him to the highest bidder.

This also is why he is not good trade material, how much would you be willing to give for an unproven QB, that you may only have for one year? He is a free agent at the end of this season, no matter where he plays, is my understanding anyway.

[Shorttimer]

You're right, and under the latest collective bargaining agreement, he must be paid a certain amount--an amount that is substantially more than a rookie QB would have to be paid.  It's why a lot of player's find themselves unemployed after year three, and it's why you see very little player development.

[acey33]

and just maybe the other 31 teams might draft a QB...

[seasonhog]

This also is why he is not good trade material, how much would you be willing to give for an unproven QB, that you may only have for one year? He is a free agent at the end of this season, no matter where he plays, is my understanding anyway.

I believe they have turn down good offers for mallett....because having a shot at the super bowl this yr they don't want someone that is not as good as mallett.

Who would they get if they traded mallett..? a qb not as good....NE would rather have mallett then the other qb's out there,....remember they said he was the best qb the yr he came out.

The money he is been paid is worth keeping him this yr....they can still get a draft pick for him after this yr.....

they will have to draft a qb this yr.....if brady was a couple yr older i think mallett would be their started qb.

[Deep Shoat]

It would certainly imply that they do not -- similar to all of the NFL teams who initially passed on him in the NFL draft -- perceive him as even an adequate starter in the league after THREE YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT behind one of the premier players in the game.

1.  Mallett had Dan McGwire written all over him at draft time.
2.  The next Petrino developed QB who consistently succeeds in the NFL will be the first.
3.  Witness Tyler Wilson as yet another glaring example.

At this point, Mallett might (might!) get one shot to lead a QB desperate team desiring a Band Aid player who is entering (next season) the latter end of his twenties for cheap.  Given that shot I bet his archaic crane delivery, poor accuracy, wilting under pressure and ability to pass his team out of the position to win relegates him to the bench by Week Four.

Obviously, the Patriots get that.

Oh, Mallett will get paid.  He'll, also, likely hang around for a decade.  But it's time to realize that every last person who believed he was coached at Arkansas by someone worthy of respect or that he was/is considered anything but a serviceable player (at best) by NFL types was wrong.

Those of us who knew better from jump continue to be validated.   :razorback:

Actually, this isn't the issue at all.  Mallett will be a FA after this season.  He will be highly sought after.  The Pats will either trade him or ride this season with him while training a replacement, because they aren't paying for him...

[Lips]

It would certainly imply that they do not -- similar to all of the NFL teams who initially passed on him in the NFL draft -- perceive him as even an adequate starter in the league after THREE YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT behind one of the premier players in the game.

1.  Mallett had Dan McGwire written all over him at draft time.
2.  The next Petrino developed QB who consistently succeeds in the NFL will be the first.
3.  Witness Tyler Wilson as yet another glaring example.

At this point, Mallett might (might!) get one shot to lead a QB desperate team desiring a Band Aid player who is entering (next season) the latter end of his twenties for cheap.  Given that shot I bet his archaic crane delivery, poor accuracy, wilting under pressure and ability to pass his team out of the position to win relegates him to the bench by Week Four.

Obviously, the Patriots get that.

Oh, Mallett will get paid.  He'll, also, likely hang around for a decade.  But it's time to realize that every last person who believed he was coached at Arkansas by someone worthy of respect or that he was/is considered anything but a serviceable player (at best) by NFL types was wrong.

Those of us who knew better from jump continue to be validated.   :razorback:

I'm one of the few that actually agree with you.  I've said from the beginning that when I look at Mallet, I see another Jeff George.  Sure he'll get his shots, but he'll mostly live out his career as a journeyman back-up, getting a start from time to time.  Every once in a while, a team that is desperate for a starting QB will bring him and and give him the opportunity, but while he's there, they'll be drafting another QB in the next draft to replace him. 


You see.....just because someone is a former Hog, doesn't mean that I have to think they are the best ever.  Many of my lifelong faves have never been considered in the upper tier of athletes at their position. For instance, My all time favorite NFL player is Phil Simms, but even I'd be hard pressed to find a compelling arguement to put him in the HOF.  I'm just hoping that after his commentating career is over,  they'll combine that with his playing years and he'll get in.

[EastexHawg]

As for the "he doesn't produce top NFL quarterbacks" argument we keep hearing from time to time...especially about our former coach...here are the top seven on the all-time NFL passing yardage list and their respective colleges, along with the head coaches for whom they played at those colleges:

Brett Favre...Southern Miss...Jim Carmody and Curly Hallman
Peyton Manning...Tennessee...Phil Fulmer
Dan Marino...Pittsburgh...Jackie Sherrill and Foge Fazio
John Elway...Stanford...Rod Dowhower and Paul Wiggin
Drew Brees...Purdue...Joe Tiller
Warren Moon...Washington...Don James
Tom Brady...Michigan...Lloyd Carr

Am I missing something?  Where are the Bear Bryant, Darrell Royal, Woody Hayes, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, and Pete Carroll type names?

Could it be that the "huh, he doesn't produce big time NFL quarterbacks" criticism is a bunch of BS?

[seasonhog]

As for the "he doesn't produce top NFL quarterbacks" argument we keep hearing from time to time...especially about our former coach...here are the top seven on the all-time NFL passing yardage list and their respective colleges, along with the head coaches for whom they played at those colleges:

Brett Favre...Southern Miss...Jim Carmody and Curly Hallman
Peyton Manning...Tennessee...Phil Fulmer
Dan Marino...Pittsburgh...Jackie Sherrill and Foge Fazio
John Elway...Stanford...Rod Dowhower and Paul Wiggin
Drew Brees...Purdue...Joe Tiller
Warren Moon...Washington...Don James
Tom Brady...Michigan...Lloyd Carr

Am I missing something?  Where are the Bear Bryant, Darrell Royal, Woody Hayes, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, and Pete Carroll type names?

Could it be that the "huh, he doesn't produce big time NFL quarterbacks" criticism is a bunch of BS?

+1

The posters that blast mallett are the same ones who dislike petrino........

part of the reason mallett went 3rd round was because he played for bp.................
no doubt abt it........NE had it right when they said he was the best qb in that yr class.

[Southern Hogspitality]

This.  AJ McCarron is a carbon copy of Tom Brady.

What, Tom Brady has a huge and hideous "Michigan Man" tattoo on his chest?

[Pigsknuckles]

With regards to Ryan Mallett. I've seen more than one top ten backup qb list, and I just don't see him making any of those in the future. He may end up making a respectable living riding the pine, and I wish him well. But to those who are still holding onto that rope, I'm reminded of Willard's quote in Apocalypse Now:
 
  "I'm here a week now... waiting for a mission... getting softer. Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger. Each time I looked around, the walls moved in a little tighter."

I see Mallett's skills eroding, rather than being refined. Hope I'm wrong, but I'm not going to get emotionally invested in the alternative.

[Gonzo]

With regards to Ryan Mallett. I've seen more than one top ten backup qb list, and I just don't see him making any of those in the future. He may end up making a respectable living riding the pine, and I wish him well. But to those who are still holding onto that rope, I'm reminded of Willard's quote in Apocalypse Now:
 
  "I'm here a week now... waiting for a mission... getting softer. Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger. Each time I looked around, the walls moved in a little tighter."

I see Mallett's skills eroding, rather than being refined. Hope I'm wrong, but I'm not going to get emotionally invested in the alternative.

It appears we will all know for sure in about a year. Looks like the Pats will keep him to finish out his rookie contract then let him walk. If he has really learned and developed with the Pats and Brady, he will get his shot next year with someone. He has a lot of talent, some of which simply cannot be learned.

If he opens the 2015 season as still a backup, I think that signify that is his limit. I hope he has developed and gets his shot.



Go Hogs!

[pfrg999]

With regards to Ryan Mallett. I've seen more than one top ten backup qb list, and I just don't see him making any of those in the future. He may end up making a respectable living riding the pine, and I wish him well.
 

So in your world $776,980.00 for 2014 is merely "Respectable" ... LMFAO
Ryan Mallett was signed for 4 years / $2.95 million.. That's "respectable" in most peoples book.... How much have you made the last 4 years... bet you in isn't "respectable" or even close to being $3 million worth of "Respectable"..
He will get a shot and will succeed or fail.... period... But $3 million over 4 years is really really really good money! Most peoples lifetime...

[Fayettechill14]

Heard on Twitter just today that Mallett may be traded during the draft. Team needing a QB may trade for him if their target (Bortles, Manziel, or Bridgewater) gets picked.

[seasonhog]

Heard on Twitter just today that Mallett may be traded during the draft. Team needing a QB may trade for him if their target (Bortles, Manziel, or Bridgewater) gets picked.

Some talking heads say that mallett is unproven but Manziel, Bridgewater, or Bortles are worth a first round pick to be our starter.

Just because the nfl people are paid alot does not mean they are very smart you can see that ever season...

[Deep Shoat]

+1

The posters that blast mallett are the same ones who dislike petrino........

part of the reason mallett went 3rd round was because he played for bp.................
no doubt abt it........NE had it right when they said he was the best qb in that yr class.

I don't like Petrino.

I think Mallett will be a stud, in the right offense. 

Your theory is busted.

[seasonhog]

I don't like Petrino.

I think Mallett will be a stud, in the right offense. 

Your theory is busted.

good for you....

I said the ones who bash mallett.........& i should have said most....

[bphi11ips]

As for the "he doesn't produce top NFL quarterbacks" argument we keep hearing from time to time...especially about our former coach...here are the top seven on the all-time NFL passing yardage list and their respective colleges, along with the head coaches for whom they played at those colleges:

Brett Favre...Southern Miss...Jim Carmody and Curly Hallman
Peyton Manning...Tennessee...Phil Fulmer
Dan Marino...Pittsburgh...Jackie Sherrill and Foge Fazio
John Elway...Stanford...Rod Dowhower and Paul Wiggin
Drew Brees...Purdue...Joe Tiller
Warren Moon...Washington...Don James
Tom Brady...Michigan...Lloyd Carr

Am I missing something?  Where are the Bear Bryant, Darrell Royal, Woody Hayes, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, and Pete Carroll type names?

Could it be that the "huh, he doesn't produce big time NFL quarterbacks" criticism is a bunch of BS?

Coaches are overrated when it comes to QB's.  Way overrated.

[Cresthog]

This.  AJ McCarron is a carbon copy of Tom Brady.

Is this for real? On what planet?

They have hot spouses?

[Spikes]

I don't like Petrino.

I think Mallett will be a stud, in the right offense. 

Your theory is busted.

You didn't say you liked Mallett.... You said stud...

[Pigsknuckles]

So in your world $776,980.00 for 2014 is merely "Respectable" ... LMFAO
Ryan Mallett was signed for 4 years / $2.95 million.. That's "respectable" in most peoples book.... How much have you made the last 4 years... bet you in isn't "respectable" or even close to being $3 million worth of "Respectable"..
He will get a shot and will succeed or fail.... period... But $3 million over 4 years is really really really good money! Most peoples lifetime...

He is signed for just over the equivalent of NFL minimum wage (not including signing bonuses), and yes, that would be a darn good living for me, but we aren't talking about me. Maybe you (and others) wanted/expected more for Ryan, but he wasn't blameless for his poor draft showing. Maybe his stock will rise as a free agent, but that will be hard to do with his limited stats. As I said previously, I wish him well, but my peace does not hinge on his success.

[Hoggish1]

Heard on Twitter just today that Mallett may be traded during the draft. Team needing a QB may trade for him if their target (Bortles, Manziel, or Bridgewater) gets picked.

LMAO... Miami needs to get their head out their @ss (tall order) and trade for Mallett.

[Hoggish1]

Some talking heads say that mallett is unproven but Manziel, Bridgewater, or Bortles are worth a first round pick to be our starter.

Just because the nfl people are paid alot does not mean they are very smart you can see that ever season...

Ask Miami if their Jeff Ireland had any smarts...

[Hogarusa]

LMAO... Miami needs to get their head out their @ss (tall order) and trade for Mallett.

Miami isn't ready to give up on Tannehill.  Not sure why the teams keep getting brought up but Cleveland and Houston aren't going to trade for Ryan Mallett.  It wouldn't make any sense

[Hogarusa]

Some talking heads say that mallett is unproven but Manziel, Bridgewater, or Bortles are worth a first round pick to be our starter.

Just because the nfl people are paid alot does not mean they are very smart you can see that ever season...

Mallett would have to be resigned and given more money than a first round QB that the teams can groom from day 1.  Makes sense