For all the Brandon Allen doubters.

[BornaHog]

http://vimeo.com/92363752

     If you think you could do what BA does, I really doubt that you could. He practices doing this day in and day out. In your opinion he is not an SEC QB. THIS WAS AN SEC CALIBER PLAY!!!

     Just give him a chance to prove you wrong, and if he does, please come back to eat your fair share of CROW!     WPS    :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:   GHG

[HiggiePiggy]

I believe in him and if BP was still here things would be different. That was the system he was in. I think he will be improved next year plus it helps that his targets will be more experienced.  I honestly think our team needs to be more of a dink and dunk type of plays.

[hogwild210]

I swear, Hogville has more threads like this calling other people bad fans than it does actually discussing Arkansas football. Good grief.

[Hogfan46]

If you can look thru the smoke of last season, BA and the offense were playing pretty well until the ill fated dive into the end zone where he hurt his shoulder. If healthy, I am confident of Brandon's abilities and the prospects of our offense this year.  Especially with how dominant the offensive line has the potential of being. 

[ADavisTheGOAT]

If you can look thru the smoke of last season, BA and the offense were playing pretty well until the ill fated dive into the end zone where he hurt his shoulder. If healthy, I am confident of Brandon's abilities and the prospects of our offense this year.  Especially with how dominant the offensive line has the potential of being.

He looked pretty good at the end of the year.

[Sir Oinksalot]

...thanks bornyo...

[IUHog]

Great video-- love the perspective.

[beebefootballfan]

or we could discuss the horrible defense on that play.

[urkillnmesmalls]

The three different video angles perspective were awesome!  As for the play...if he can't make that throw look routine, then we really are in trouble. 

[root_hawg]

Think I still have enough ammo in the gun to make that throw

[impact]

Did the CB even bump the receiver off of the line?  It's more telling of our red zone defense than BA.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

I prefer Pro Style offenses.

[870hogfan]

I prefer Pro Style offenses.

Me too, I love the pro style offenses and hate the spread.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

Did the CB even bump the receiver off of the line?  It's more telling of our red zone defense than BA.

Because it wasn't man coverage and it was Braylon Mitchell over Hatcher not a CB. Its hard to tell if they were in a cover 3, 2 or maybe 3 on the right and 2 on the left because the D bit hard on the run fake. It doesn't show bad defense its just a good call by the offense who got the LB's to bite on the run fake which means the ball is going to Hatcher on the slant.

[Karma]

I would hope our starting QB could make a play in practice that no one on Hogville could.

[Sir Oinksalot]

...I'm glad we are blessed with a QB. who is at least the equal of so many at Hogvillians.net , it's like a
warm fuzzy at night...national championship here we come...

[rlamb]

For he originator of is thread, you must take moonlight walks with ole Brandon?  Yes our defense is horrible, but last year even though our defense was worse than horrible, QB was our weakest position and it will be this year also. 

[Jimbob111]

http://vimeo.com/92363752

     If you think you could do what BA does, I really doubt that you could. He practices doing this day in and day out. In your opinion he is not an SEC QB. THIS WAS AN SEC CALIBER PLAY!!!

     Just give him a chance to prove you wrong, and if he does, please come back to eat your fair share of CROW!     WPS    :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:   GHG

An SEC caliber play.  Yeah, BA had a few of those.  And so did the QB at Henderson State, as did Nathan Dick at UCA a few short years ago.  A few great plays don't make an SEC QB. 

I doubt BA because of what I saw last season.  Staring down receivers (a problem since high school), deciding who to throw to before the snap (a problem in high school, youtube is your friend, trust me), and bad accuracy (not as much a problem in high school).

I hope he lights up the SEC.  I hope an improved O-line helps him out and that our receivers are at least serviceable this season.  But the O-line was NOT terrible last year.  Say what you want but they were not the worst, or the 2nd worst, or the 3rd worst in the SEC last season. The receivers WERE terrible last season.

I will go on record as a Brandon Allen doubter and I hope I'm proven wrong.  After the last two seasons, I'll never trust a Petrino-vetted QB who doesn't play for Petrino.  I watched what he did with Casey Dick.  And I watched Tyler Wilson without him.

This board is about opinions.  Doubting the ability of the QB doesn't mean you're bashing BA.  It means you've watched some games, saw the flaws, saw improvement then saw set backs.  I will never understand why anyone would go to a message board, forum, chat room, etc and not expect a differing viewpoint.

If I wanted to hear my own voice, I'd stay off the internet.

[Jimbob111]

Forgot to add:  OP deserves a wedgie.  Boo!

[twistitup]

or we could discuss the horrible defense on that play.

[ChitownHawg]

An SEC caliber play.  Yeah, BA had a few of those.  And so did the QB at Henderson State, as did Nathan Dick at UCA a few short years ago.  A few great plays don't make an SEC QB. 

I doubt BA because of what I saw last season.  Staring down receivers (a problem since high school), deciding who to throw to before the snap (a problem in high school, youtube is your friend, trust me), and bad accuracy (not as much a problem in high school).

I hope he lights up the SEC.  I hope an improved O-line helps him out and that our receivers are at least serviceable this season.  But the O-line was NOT terrible last year.  Say what you want but they were not the worst, or the 2nd worst, or the 3rd worst in the SEC last season. The receivers WERE terrible last season.

I will go on record as a Brandon Allen doubter and I hope I'm proven wrong.  After the last two seasons, I'll never trust a Petrino-vetted QB who doesn't play for Petrino.  I watched what he did with Casey Dick.  And I watched Tyler Wilson without him.

This board is about opinions.  Doubting the ability of the QB doesn't mean you're bashing BA.  It means you've watched some games, saw the flaws, saw improvement then saw set backs.  I will never understand why anyone would go to a message board, forum, chat room, etc and not expect a differing viewpoint.

If I wanted to hear my own voice, I'd stay off the internet.

So you complain about people complaining about differing opinions? The OP was giving his opinion and trying to show evidence to persuade some that BA is an SEC QB. Now I doubt a 20 second video of one play is going to persuade many of the doubters.

But it is ironic that you chose this thread to complain about people complaining about differing opinions. And if you think some have not bashed BA then you are wrong. In posting their doubt they use adjectives that are bashing.

[azhog10]

Because it wasn't man coverage and it was Braylon Mitchell over Hatcher not a CB. Its hard to tell if they were in a cover 3, 2 or maybe 3 on the right and 2 on the left because the D bit hard on the run fake. It doesn't show bad defense its just a good call by the offense who got the LB's to bite on the run fake which means the ball is going to Hatcher on the slant.

Pretty sure Mitchell starts over Hatcher then blitzes, Turner takes the WR and is late getting to him. It's really just a good hot route against a blitzing outside backer. The Safety was a little late and Allen made a nice throw over the MLB. I also think that they weren't taking people to the ground just by watching the way he shoved him instead of trying to tackle him. At least I hope that's the case.

[ChitownHawg]

Pretty sure Mitchell starts over Hatcher then blitzes, Turner takes the WR and is late getting to him. It's really just a good hot route against a blitzing outside backer. The Safety was a little late and Allen made a nice throw over the MLB. I also think that they weren't taking people to the ground just by watching the way he shoved him instead of trying to tackle him. At least I hope that's the case.

You are correct that is Braylon, but he bit on the run fake not blitz.

[Cotton]

So that's what an SEC caliber slant looks like!!

Amazing!! BA for Heisman!




Thanks for the video Mrs. Allen. Hope your son has a great season for us!

[hawgsalot]

Exactly what kills me about this board.  Does the video show he's an all sec qb, of course not.  Does the video show a good read and great pass splitting defenders and over the outstretched arm of a lb.  Yes it does.  It was a good play in the redzone and some want to do anything in the world but give BA credit.  The extremes out in every thread spinning the conversation to  continue their personal rants about a player, coach or scheme.  I'm assuming it's a bunch of kids on this board doing this or maybe it's a bunch really sad grownups.  Either way, good play, good pass, good execution no more no less.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Did the CB even bump the receiver off of the line?  It's more telling of our red zone defense than BA.

  There is no defense that can stop a perfectly executed play...

[Hogarusa]

We talkin about practice? I mean, listen, we're talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice. Not a game.

What are we talking about? Practice? We're talking about practice, man.

[dumbdude479]

So that's what an SEC caliber slant looks like!!

Amazing!! BA for Heisman!




Thanks for the video Mrs. Allen. Hope your son has a great season for us!

  Good laugh at this one 

[Pig In The City]

http://vimeo.com/92363752

     If you think you could do what BA does, I really doubt that you could. He practices doing this day in and day out. In your opinion he is not an SEC QB. THIS WAS AN SEC CALIBER PLAY!!!

     Just give him a chance to prove you wrong, and if he does, please come back to eat your fair share of CROW!     WPS    :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:   GHG

Is this really necessary? 

[OLDHOG]

We talkin about practice? I mean, listen, we're talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice. Not a game.

What are we talking about? Practice? We're talking about practice, man.

Exactly. Show me in a game at Auburn. Then I will believe, and I really do want to believe. Just sayin.

[Speedracer]

I hope to eat crow, because if he performs like last season, enjoy a 3-9 season.

[Pigdiana Jones]

Is he still staring down receivers?

[870hogfan]

Dang a lot of haters in here...

[Break & Run]

God there are a bunch of douchebags on here.  I guess you all live to beat up a 21 year old guy for going through all the bull he has gone through the last 3 years.

When are y'all going to be man enough to realize that football is a sport and shouldn't be taken so damn seriously?

I love the game and love the hogs but to attack a player like this is pathetic.

[bplease]

I think you linked the wrong one?

[secneahog]

Hope our offense gets contagious in the red zone for touchdowns.

[Mike_e]

God there are a bunch of douchebags on here.  I guess you all live to beat up a 21 year old guy for going through all the bull he has gone through the last 3 years.

When are y'all going to be man enough to realize that football is a sport and shouldn't be taken so damn seriously?

I love the game and love the hogs but to attack a player like this is pathetic.

With an attitude like that how did you get 3k smites?

+1 btw

[Break & Run]

With an attitude like that how did you get 3k smites?

+1 btw

I sense the sarcasm.  LOL

Most of my smites came during the Nutt/Malzahn debacle.  I was 17 years old at the time and thought Malzahn was coming in and trying to run things so I was standing up for Nutt.  Hindsight's 20/20 though and I now realize Nutt was the problem lol

[Steef]

There isn't a single member if Hogville that could have hit that pass. And certainly no one in this thread.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

There isn't a single member if Hogville that could have hit that pass. And certainly no one in this thread.

It was a nice, quick, play action(though not a great run fake on the hand off), pop pass to a receiver on a crossing pattern and well executed though it appeared to be thrown a tad too much to the receivers back shoulder or middle as opposed to leading him. Still a successful play. My question is, what if that receiver had been covered? Where would he have gone next? We never got to see that.

[Break & Run]

It was a nice, quick, play action(though not a great run fake on the hand off), pop pass to a receiver on a crossing pattern and well executed though it appeared to be thrown a tad too much to the receivers back shoulder or middle as opposed to leading him. Still a successful play. My question is, what if that receiver had been covered? Where would he have gone next? We never got to see that.

And we won't in Spring ball.  Coach B probably took the most basic play they practiced to put on vimeo so it wouldn't leave anything for opponents to look at.

[three hog night]

The moderators have got to clean this crap up.  Hogville is falling apart.  You can't come here and talk Hog sports without haters ruining the experience.  I can go to an Ole Miss board if I want to be on a board with people talking trash against my Hogs. 

Come on Mods....

[Mike_e]

I sense the sarcasm.  LOL

Most of my smites came during the Nutt/Malzahn debacle.  I was 17 years old at the time and thought Malzahn was coming in and trying to run things so I was standing up for Nutt.  Hindsight's 20/20 though and I now realize Nutt was the problem lol

Nah, I'm usually more blunt than that.

Good comment.

[secneahog]

Crazy how are defense get scored on and people go to the doom and gloom mindset.

Sad people. ...

[Kevin]

Why do we need these threads. The hogs will shows us what they got in august

[LZH]

Although the angles and film work is killer (I really like the one from behind the QB), that's probably not the best example to make the OP's point.  DB's playing outside technique and no over-the-top help...anyone on here could have made that throw.

But I understand the intention.  BA was hurt most of last year, yes, but he was also extremely snakebit.  There were many times when it was obvious that he couldn't wait to get rid of the ball - that clock in his head was running twice the speed of the actual play.  After a while, he drops back and it's like "oh * oh * oh *, if I don't get rid of this ball something awful is gonna happen".

It happens to alot of guys, and the only thing you can do is play out of it.  Many QB's fold when this sets in, and Arkansas has sure had their share.  But I don't think BA is one of them, I really don't.  I think the more he plays, the better he'll get.  He'll be fine imo.

[lumphog]

I sense the sarcasm.  LOL

Most of my smites came during the Nutt/Malzahn debacle.  I was 17 years old at the time and thought Malzahn was coming in and trying to run things so I was standing up for Nutt.  Hindsight's 20/20 though and I now realize Nutt was the problem lol

Let me help you out +1 We all make mistakes

[CallThemHawgs!]

Stupid thread

[GuvHog]

http://vimeo.com/92363752

     If you think you could do what BA does, I really doubt that you could. He practices doing this day in and day out. In your opinion he is not an SEC QB. THIS WAS AN SEC CALIBER PLAY!!!

     Just give him a chance to prove you wrong, and if he does, please come back to eat your fair share of CROW!     WPS    :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:   GHG

No, I can't do that. I respect Brandon and I'm excited to see he's doing so well in practice but I want to see it in a game. This is his 3rd year on campus (RS Sophomore) so this should be his year to really break out. I'm looking forward to watching the Hogs play.

[ricepig]

Although the angles and film work is killer (I really like the one from behind the QB), that's probably not the best example to make the OP's point.  DB's playing outside technique and no over-the-top help...anyone on here could have made that throw.

But I understand the intention.  BA was hurt most of last year, yes, but he was also extremely snakebit.  There were many times when it was obvious that he couldn't wait to get rid of the ball - that clock in his head was running twice the speed of the actual play.  After a while, he drops back and it's like "oh * oh * oh *, if I don't get rid of this ball something awful is gonna happen".

It happens to alot of guys, and the only thing you can do is play out of it.  Many QB's fold when this sets in, and Arkansas has sure had their share.  But I don't think BA is one of them, I really don't.  I think the more he plays, the better he'll get.  He'll be fine imo.

B.S., nobody on here could take a snap from center, much less pass a ball in that window. I assume you were being facetious, if not slap a Gopro camera on your head and do it with the neighborhood kids, haha.