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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/10/5594348/college-football-bag-man-interview

QuoteThe Bag Man excuses himself to make a call outside, on his "other phone," to arrange delivery of $500 in cash to a visiting recruit. The player is rated No. 1 at his position nationally and on his way into town. We're sitting in a popular restaurant near campus almost a week before National Signing Day, talking about how to arrange cash payments for amateur athletes.

"Nah, there's no way we're landing him, but you still have to do it," he says. "It looks good. It's good for down the road. Same reason my wife reads Yelp. These kids talk to each other. It's a waste of money, but they're doing the same thing to our guys right now in [rival school's town]. Cost of business."

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Break & Run

Quote from: Amityvillehogger on April 10, 2014, 12:30:14 pm
How else can ole Nicky Satan keep a roster full of 5* players happy.

Championships might have something to do with it.  SMH.
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VanilaGorila

Only $500 for a #1 rated recruit at their position? Seems like most Prima Donna's these days would be insulted but such a low amount. 

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: VanilaGorila on April 10, 2014, 01:05:56 pm
Only $500 for a #1 rated recruit at their position? Seems like most Prima Donna's these days would be insulted but such a low amount. 

In Memphis that's chump change.........................................
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ricepig

Quote from: VanilaGorila on April 10, 2014, 01:05:56 pm
Only $500 for a #1 rated recruit at their position? Seems like most Prima Donna's these days would be insulted but such a low amount. 

That wasn't for the signature on NSD, that was just a welcome to town gift.

ricepig

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on April 10, 2014, 01:29:35 pm
In Memphis that's chump change.........................................

Ain't everyone Albert Means' coach......

Amityvillehogger

Quote from: Break & Run on April 10, 2014, 01:01:49 pm
Championships might have something to do with it.  SMH.

You must not spend much time around 18-22 year old kids now days then.
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Uncommon

I'm glad an Auburn fan took time out of his busy schedule to do that interview.  Of course, it probably wasn't an Auburn fan because:
A. You need lots of money

B. You have to be intelligent not to get caught

secneahog

I had to quit reading half way through it. Talk about a low life, sleazy p.o.s.
Slime ball that is willing to cheat and corrupt the game so he can see his team win.

Reminds me of the movie Blue Chips.
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Break & Run

Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

fortsmithokie

So he took all this time to write a story without a single identified source to tell us about what we already know is going on. I smell Pulitzer Prize.

 

MiHogsMi

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redeye

Quote from: secneahog on April 10, 2014, 01:49:31 pm
I had to quit reading half way through it. Talk about a low life, sleazy p.o.s.
Slime ball that is willing to cheat and corrupt the game so he can see his team win.

Reminds me of the movie Blue Chips.

Yea, I can never finish these things, either.

Universities are doing a fine job of teaching student-athletes how to cheat.

HogFoo

To Quote Charles barkley.  former aubbie alum.   "  If you ain't paying, you ain't trying!''


It's pretty obvious that this happens. Yeah, once you get your program established with a winning tradition you don't have to do it as much.  Then the winning brings the recruits in for the most part.  I just keep thinking of Ole Piss.  I could see them getting kids from that area or from one of the what, 52 jucos they have???  But, when they start getting the #1 players at their positions from around the nation in a coaches first year???  Something is fishy. 

So, apparently, we aren't paying enough!  hahaha
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wstill3

wow thats a very interesting read, from watching what has happened with people I know, I don't doubt this in the least.

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JansterZ71

Yes it's interesting that they say it happens at EVERY SEC school.

The author should have said every major program because that is the truth
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tophawg19

and how does this guy just happen to know all these guys who are so willing to talk . especially knowing he could turn them in and damage their university ?
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JansterZ71

Quote from: tophawg19 on April 10, 2014, 08:13:02 pm
and how does this guy just happen to know all these guys who are so willing to talk . especially knowing he could turn them in and damage their university ?
I'm sure the story has some sort of validity but it's obvious the dude stretched the truth just a tad.  No way he knows multiple people from multiple school that pay recruits and that would be open to telling him
I believe that this is a practical world and that I can count only on what I earn. Therefore, I believe in work, hard work.
I believe in education, which gives me the knowledge to work wisely and trains my mind and my hands to work skillfully. I believe in honesty and truthfulness, without which I cannot win the respect and confidence of my fellow men. I believe in a sound mind, in a sound body and a spirit that is not afraid, and in clean sports that develop these qualities. I believe in obedience to law because it protects the rights of all. I believe in the human touch, which cultivates sympathy with my fellow men and mutual helpfulness and brings happiness for all. I believe in my Country, because it is a land of freedom and because it is my own home, and that I can best serve that country by "doing justly, loving mercy, and walking humbly with my God."

Fayettechill14

I have a hard time believing that an SB Nation reporter got so much access to so many people willing to talk. I have no doubt there's a lot of truth there, but I'm guessing it's embellished a bit.

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Quote from: secneahog on April 10, 2014, 01:49:31 pm
I had to quit reading half way through it. Talk about a low life, sleazy p.o.s.
Slime ball that is willing to cheat and corrupt the game so he can see his team win.

Reminds me of the movie Blue Chips.

You wouldn't drop a couple grand for a couple more wins if you were financially able?

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: Fayettechill14 on April 10, 2014, 08:23:30 pm
I have a hard time believing that an SB Nation reporter got so much access to so many people willing to talk. I have no doubt there's a lot of truth there, but I'm guessing it's embellished a bit.

As with most things, the truth lies somewhere in between.

Writers need reads to make them able to continue to be writers.

Sensationalism sells, whether it serves the truth of the matter or not.
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Tusks

its not the 'bag' man game the hogs have to play....its the whole system.  even duke got BB parents jobs in the research triangle.  why don't we offer walmart and tyson jobs.

LSU recruits dad owns a liquor store.  someone pulls up and buys out the whole store.  then a truck pulls up and restocks the store at no charge.  kids signs with LSU.

THAT is how you play the game.  Not with bags of cash.
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Quote from: JansterZ71 on April 10, 2014, 08:12:12 pm
Yes it's interesting that they say it happens at EVERY SEC school.

The author should have said every major program because that is the truth

Out of sheer curiosity, how do you know that?
WPS

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Quote from: tusked on April 10, 2014, 09:25:19 pm
its not the 'bag' man game the hogs have to play....its the whole system.  even duke got BB parents jobs in the research triangle.  why don't we offer walmart and tyson jobs.

LSU recruits dad owns a liquor store.  someone pulls up and buys out the whole store.  then a truck pulls up and restocks the store at no charge.  kids signs with LSU.

THAT is how you play the game.  Not with bags of cash.

+1  #QTF

redeye

Quote from: IBleedRazorbackRed on April 10, 2014, 08:50:42 pm
You wouldn't drop a couple grand for a couple more wins if you were financially able?

Would you provide your favorite MLB team with steroids, if you had the means?

IBleedRazorbackRed

Quote from: redeye on April 11, 2014, 02:06:17 am
Would you provide your favorite MLB team with steroids, if you had the means?

Totally different. Steroids affect the players physical state. If someone asked you, "give me a couple grand and it'll improve arkansas football" would you do it?

Karma

Couldn't be auburn based on the story of the coach that cussed on the plane. I bet it's Ole Miss

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I assume you're implying Gus doesn't cuss?  Right... that's Nutt level mythology.
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Mike Irwin

Alabama cheats the best. They try not to get caught but they do it so much that every 10 years or so they have to pay the price.

Auburn boosters have figured out that Mark Emert doesn't care about enforcing the rules these days so they're cheating with impunity.

Arkansas has wimpy cheaters. Guys that slip a kid a couple of twenty dollar bills and tell him to have a good time (with a wink).

In most cases SEC coaches don't get involved in this stuff. As long as they don't look hard enough they can honestly say they don't know about any cheating.

Mike Irwin

Quote from: Albert Einswine on April 11, 2014, 08:11:26 am
I assume you're implying Gus doesn't cuss?  Right... that's Nutt level mythology.
Ken Hatfield was known to occasionally cut loose. What's your point?

popcornhog

Quote from: Albert Einswine on April 11, 2014, 08:11:26 am
I assume you're implying Gus doesn't cuss?  Right... that's Nutt level mythology.

I'm pretty sure he was joking.
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Quote from: Fayettechill14 on April 10, 2014, 08:23:30 pm
I have a hard time believing that an SB Nation reporter got so much access to so many people willing to talk. I have no doubt there's a lot of truth there, but I'm guessing it's embellished a bit.

Yeah, especially when one of the rules was to never interact with the media. I'm reminded of that TV show that claims to reveal the secrets behind magicians tricks. Gives just enough information to make the masses think they know how it is being done, but is really just another form of "misdirection". Fun read though.
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chitwnhog

Quote from: Mike Irwin on April 11, 2014, 08:35:50 am
Alabama cheats the best. They try not to get caught but they do it so much that every 10 years or so they have to pay the price.

Auburn boosters have figured out that Mark Emert doesn't care about enforcing the rules these days so they're cheating with impunity.

Arkansas has wimpy cheaters. Guys that slip a kid a couple of twenty dollar bills and tell him to have a good time (with a wink).

In most cases SEC coaches don't get involved in this stuff. As long as they don't look hard enough they can honestly say they don't know about any cheating.

I think this is probably pretty close to reality. I was talking to a friend of mine who is a big LSU booster and he said everyone cheats. My response "Arkansas is doing it all wrong."

Albert Einswine

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Fatty McGee

All you guys shooting the messenger remind me of Captain Renault:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

All the billions flowing through college football and you can't believe there are people funneling a few hundred to some of the players?  And that the schools look the other way or are willfully ignorant?  You're fooling only yourselves.
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Quote from: Fatty McGee on April 11, 2014, 10:42:17 am
All you guys shooting the messenger remind me of Captain Renault:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

All the billions flowing through college football and you can't believe there are people funneling a few hundred to some of the players?  And that the schools look the other way or are willfully ignorant?  You're fooling only yourselves.

Probably the reason half of em are broke is the same reason NFL and NBA players get broke. They think the money will always be there and don't try to conserve anything.
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