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Robert Shields

Quote from: Tom Bennett on March 31, 2014, 12:35:58 pm
No, it isn't.

You're going to need to make a connection pretty quick, or I'm going to sustain the objection.

It all falls under the same UA administration.  It's not a stretch to think if the Advancement Department is run in such a way other areas are run the same.  It can be a corporate culture that is accepted. Don't forget it was the same guys in the Advancement Department writing speeches for the Athletic Department.

Delicious~Dreams

Quote from: Robert Shields on March 31, 2014, 10:36:54 am
Disconnect With Fans Grows as UA Continues to Shut Out Public

Robert Shields

The poorly conceived headline of an ad in Sunday's statewide sports section read, "Razorback Fans and Donors." Even with such a brilliant attention grabber like that, I have the God-given gift of being able to grossly ignore advertising I'm not interested in, so I never saw the advertisement until an informant texted me Sunday morning with the message, "Sport section page 5C."

Though I was in the middle of church, I was intrigued. When I opened the paper, there was the ad that started, "You may be aware that in October of 2013 Athletic Director Jeff Long asked the University of Arkansas to increase his compensation from $1,150,000 to $2,000,000 on the rationale that he had been contacted by the University of Texas about interviewing for the Athletic Director position."

The ad reported that Jeff Long is the highest paid athletic director in the SEC according to the USA Today's database of athletic director salaries. I have to mention at this point to the people who wrote this ad that Jeff Long's official role is not athletic director. As his title so plainly puts it, he's also a vice chancellor of intercollegiate athletics. To be clear, his title is Vice Chancellor of Intercollegiate Athletics and Director of Athletics.

The ad points out that the football team has only been to three bowl games in his six years, and the basketball team has never made the NCAA tournament under Long's direction. The NCAA tournament comment is technically wrong because John Pelphrey did make the NCAA tournament in 2008 just as Long had taken over after the official retirement of Frank Broyles.

The "Friends of the Razorbacks" out of Austin, Texas, may not have had everything straight in the ad, but the fact remains that under Long this school year the UA was the only SEC team that failed to make a bowl game in football or an appearance in the NCAA tournament, which officially makes the Razorback Program the worst in the conference.

The ad's premise is that Long's compensation does not match production on the SEC battle ground, which is hard to dispute. What the ad does not point out is that Long is a world-class fundraiser, or at least he has about doubled the budget for the UofA Athletic Program since taking the wheel. I guess the fundraising is the "vice chancellor" part of his job.

Unfortunately, money is not the true metric that matters in the SEC where winning is held above everything else.

The timing of this ad was curious if nothing else because Sunday was also the day the statewide paper ran its listing of the highest-paid state employees. Coming in at No. 3 was Long only behind UofA football coach Bret Bielema and basketball coach Mike Anderson -- the two guys who are putting their boss on the hot seat, one more than the other, with ads being run in the statewide paper.

Times are not good for Razorback sports, and if Dickens were writing this chapter of Razorback athletics it would simply say, "It was the worst of times. Period." The SEC is a truth machine. You can hide your team during spring practice and cloak it in darkness, but play in the SEC brings everything to light. You cannot hide forever how bad you are.

Nothing was more telling than this past week when "The Zone" radio show on 103.7 in Little Rock devoted several hours to the premise that there is a disconnect between the fans and the UofA. Caller after caller made great points about how the UA was continually disconnecting with the fans around the state and with a younger generation not growing up to be Razorbacks.

These days, however, the UA's answer to this problem is that you can get more connected to the UofA if you send a big fat check.

It could be a sampling error from the radio station, but the callers were overwhelming complaining about how they feel disconnected from the sports program they once loved. When money is the only thing that matters and fans aren't getting a return on the large investment they are being asked to give, this result should not come as a surprise.

The UA seems unconcerned. It continues to close football practices, even in spring, keep the media out, and only disseminate the information it wants you to know through official channels – its website – charging extra for the access wherever it can.

And then with such lack of transparency as with the case of the UA Advancement department's budgeting issues, you wonder why people feel disconnected.



Send your performance appraisal to fromthebench@yahoo.com.

........And There you have it.......

Mr. Shields in his finest form.....lol!!  :)

Just who IS Robert Shields???     


 

OTTER

The ad in the paper was asinine.  Shields' latest piece of drivel even more asinine than the ad.  Poor work, Robert.
BE AFRAID!!  Be very, very afraid!  The Hogs are hungry and you look a lot like lunch!

WilsonHog

Quote from: Robert Shields on March 31, 2014, 12:41:47 pm
It all falls under the same UA administration.  It's not a stretch to think if the Advancement Department is run in such a way other areas are run the same.  It can be a corporate culture that is accepted. Don't forget it was the same guys in the Advancement Department writing speeches for the Athletic Department.

I can see where it might not be a stretch for you, given your position on all things related to the University of Arkansas.

Having given way more thought to your article than it deserves, it occurs to me that your article is more in the nature of a "vent" towards our athletic department and Jeff Long in particular.

Fortunately, we have a forum just for that kind of thing, where our readers can enjoy your writing.

ChitownHawg

Quote from: bphi11ips on March 31, 2014, 12:07:59 pm


I have not heard that song before. There is some truth to the song.

You learn something new everyday. I thought all Kris ever did was fight vampires! Man he sings songs too!  ;)
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Pork Twain

Quote from: Robert Shields on March 31, 2014, 12:41:47 pm
It all falls under the same UA administration.  It's not a stretch to think if the Advancement Department is run in such a way other areas are run the same.  It can be a corporate culture that is accepted. Don't forget it was the same guys in the Advancement Department writing speeches for the Athletic Department.

So you are talking about all of the administration at the UofA and not just Jeff Long?
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Pork Twain

I have filters on my Outlook email at work that puts certain emails into a certain folder.  Can the same thing be done with posts from a certain folder?  Maybe create a forum just for RS posts as a sub-folder under Vent n' Rumors?
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jabohog

Quote from: locusbug on March 31, 2014, 12:49:04 pm
I have not heard that song before. There is some truth to the song.

You learn something new everyday. I thought all Kris ever did was fight vampires! Man he sings songs too!  ;)
I like Kris, but I don't know if I'd call that singing.

jesterzzn

Quote from: Robert Shields on March 31, 2014, 12:41:47 pm
It all falls under the same UA administration.  It's not a stretch to think if the Advancement Department is run in such a way other areas are run the same.  It can be a corporate culture that is accepted. Don't forget it was the same guys in the Advancement Department writing speeches for the Athletic Department.

You can't have it both ways.  Either Long runs his show or he doesn't.  Either he's mr intergrity or he isn't.  You are making reference to a scandal entirely unrelated to the athletic department as if the two departments were in cahoots.  This is blatently sensational and dishonest to a degree that you should be held accountable.  If I were a mod that would mean the thread would be deleted at the very least and you would be invited not to repost it, but...

Quote from: Tom Bennett on March 31, 2014, 12:43:40 pm
Having given way more thought to your article than it deserves, it occurs to me that your article is more in the nature of a "vent" towards our athletic department and Jeff Long in particular.

This will do just fine.  Thank you.

DeltaBoy

Robert is right and Jeff needs his pay cut 30% at least along with cutting ticket prices 30%.  Jeff has pushed the working man fan out of the market cause we don't have 1,500 bucks to drop like Tom Bennett.  I work hard 6 days a week and pay my bills but I don't have extra cash to throw around with a teenaged daughter at home.  I so glad so many here are so well off they can afford Jeff but I can't.
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

PonderinHog

And that flushing sound you just heard, Robert, is Mr. Bennett giving you the message board equivalent of a swirly.

Pickwick Hog

LMAO. It is Monday.

Don't know why anyone would expect todays diatribe to be any different.
Negative people need drama like oxygen. Stay positive and take their breath away.

jesterzzn

Quote from: DeltaBoy on March 31, 2014, 01:01:56 pm
Robert is right and Jeff needs his pay cut 30% at least along with cutting ticket prices 30%.  Jeff has pushed the working man fan out of the market cause we don't have 1,500 bucks to drop like Tom Bennett.  I work hard 6 days a week and pay my bills but I don't have extra cash to throw around with a teenaged daughter at home.  I so glad so many here are so well off they can afford Jeff but I can't.

Life is a series of value clarifications.  We can't all afford everything we want to do, and just because we can't afford it doesn't mean we 'deserve' for it to be cheaper.

Think about your statement.  You just said that because you personally cannot afford something, that someone else should be paid less so that you can enjoy a recreational activity.  Not food.  Not a roof over your head.  A Football game.

Why do you deserve to go to this football game?  Because you work hard.  You pay your bills.  You have a teenager at home.

Absouletly amazing.

 

Robert Shields

Quote from: PonderinHog on March 31, 2014, 01:06:13 pm
And that flushing sound you just heard, Robert, is Mr. Bennett giving you the message board equivalent of a swirly.

That's funny.  I guess so.

John Futrall


John Futrall

Quote from: jesterzzn on March 31, 2014, 01:10:42 pm
Life is a series of value clarifications.  We can't all afford everything we want to do, and just because we can't afford it doesn't mean we 'deserve' for it to be cheaper.


+100

WilsonHog

Quote from: DeltaBoy on March 31, 2014, 01:01:56 pm
Robert is right and Jeff needs his pay cut 30% at least along with cutting ticket prices 30%.  Jeff has pushed the working man fan out of the market cause we don't have 1,500 bucks to drop like Tom Bennett.  I work hard 6 days a week and pay my bills but I don't have extra cash to throw around with a teenaged daughter at home.  I so glad so many here are so well off they can afford Jeff but I can't.

Priorities are a part of it, Delta. I decided long ago that the Razorbacks would always be my top priority when it came to any available disposable income, which I have been blessed to see increase over the years. If asked what I do for relaxation, I go to Razorback games. Period. Maybe a weekend trip to St. Louis to watch the Cardinals once a year. Other than that, I don't golf, hunt, fish, go to the casino, watch the ponies, travel, or take vacations. Some years it's been a matter of saving for months. Some years I had to use loan money. Sometimes it's been a matter of driving six hours to Fayetteville and back in one day. Just all according to what has been necessary over the last 30 years.

SONofHAM

Shields is the biggest troll on Hogville.  Thanks to TB for taking care of this one.

The man quoted his sources as 103.7's The Zone...too funny.
"like a wild band of Razorback hogs"

FelixJonesorDMAC?

Quote from: OneTuskOverTheLine on March 31, 2014, 12:29:50 pm
I call BS... Why? cause I've quit 41,352 times since 2006...

Liar, I counted and it has been 41,461 times, don't short yourself

FelixJonesorDMAC?

Quote from: DeltaBoy on March 31, 2014, 01:01:56 pm
Robert is right and Jeff needs his pay cut 30% at least along with cutting ticket prices 30%.  Jeff has pushed the working man fan out of the market cause we don't have 1,500 bucks to drop like Tom Bennett.  I work hard 6 days a week and pay my bills but I don't have extra cash to throw around with a teenaged daughter at home.  I so glad so many here are so well off they can afford Jeff but I can't.

Your a pretty strong conservative over in the politics forum but this post screams leftist. 

Pork Twain

Quote from: DeltaBoy on March 31, 2014, 01:01:56 pm
Robert is right and Jeff needs his pay cut 30% at least along with cutting ticket prices 30%.  Jeff has pushed the working man fan out of the market cause we don't have 1,500 bucks to drop like Tom Bennett.  I work hard 6 days a week and pay my bills but I don't have extra cash to throw around with a teenaged daughter at home.  I so glad so many here are so well off they can afford Jeff but I can't.
So if these hires all work out he will get a retroactive pay raise?
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RebelliousHog

Quote from: DeltaBoy on March 31, 2014, 01:01:56 pm
Robert is right and Jeff needs his pay cut 30% at least along with cutting ticket prices 30%.  Jeff has pushed the working man fan out of the market cause we don't have 1,500 bucks to drop like Tom Bennett.  I work hard 6 days a week and pay my bills but I don't have extra cash to throw around with a teenaged daughter at home.  I so glad so many here are so well off they can afford Jeff but I can't.

2 things.
1. then don't go to games.
2. somehow I knew you would agree with RS. If he wrote "I took a dump on the Hog at midfield", you would agree with RS.


Just sayin'.


As an aside FINALLY someone took Roberts drivel and moved it where it belongs.  Thank you
"Some there are who are nothing else than a passage for food and augmenters of excrement and fillers of privies, because through them no other things in the world, nor any good effects are produced, since nothing but full privies results from them."<br />―Leonardo da Vinci

goodguytex

Quote from: HenduHog on March 31, 2014, 04:50:38 pm
2 things.
1. then don't go to games.
2. somehow I knew you would agree with RS. If he wrote "I took a dump on the Hog at midfield", you would agree with RS.


Just sayin'.


As an aside FINALLY someone took Roberts drivel and moved it where it belongs.  Thank you
Tom Bennett is my hero for being the one to finally move a Shields thread.

Chic-Hog-Oh

Quote from: SONofHAM on March 31, 2014, 02:31:02 pm
Shields is the biggest troll on Hogville.  Thanks to TB for taking care of this one.

The man quoted his sources as 103.7's The Zone...too funny.
Not just 103.7's The Zone.....His "sources" were a few loopy callers into 103.7's The Zone on one particular day.

 

Chic-Hog-Oh

Quote from: Robert Shields on March 31, 2014, 12:41:47 pm
It all falls under the same UA administration.  It's not a stretch to think if the Advancement Department is run in such a way other areas are run the same.  It can be a corporate culture that is accepted. Don't forget it was the same guys in the Advancement Department writing speeches for the Athletic Department.
Nice try, Stretch Armstrong. But not this time.

Thank you.

bphi11ips

Quote from: locusbug on March 31, 2014, 12:49:04 pm
I have not heard that song before. There is some truth to the song.

You learn something new everyday. I thought all Kris ever did was fight vampires! Man he sings songs too!  ;)

Best Christian song ever written. 

You don't hear much from the pulpit about Matthew 6:5 or Luke 6:20-26.  Much better in the South to focus on Corinthians 14:34.
Life is too short for grudges and feuds.

DeltaBoy

Quote from: jesterzzn on March 31, 2014, 01:10:42 pm
Life is a series of value clarifications.  We can't all afford everything we want to do, and just because we can't afford it doesn't mean we 'deserve' for it to be cheaper.

Think about your statement.  You just said that because you personally cannot afford something, that someone else should be paid less so that you can enjoy a recreational activity.  Not food.  Not a roof over your head.  A Football game.

Why do you deserve to go to this football game?  Because you work hard.  You pay your bills.  You have a teenager at home.

Absouletly amazing.

Per CBS our buying power dropped by 16% for 98% of us all.   Jeff shot up the prices greater than 16%.   
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Fatty McGee on March 31, 2014, 12:05:29 pm
Fan disconnects come and go with the winning or losing records of the team.  Win, and everyone is "connected" and all other disreputable actions are ignored or explained away by the fans.  Lose, and the fans are "disconnected" and everything you say and do as a coach is under the microscope.  It doesn't even take as many words as I used to explain that.

The terminology for disconnected fans when losing is FAIR WEATHER.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

I admit I actually read this Shields post. I should have known better than to do so. Did anyone else catch the part about the Razorback program being the worst in the SEC? Yes I know that football and basketball are the revenue producers but he forgot there are OTHER sports in the program besides football and men's basketball. He should have noticed the recent Director's Cup thread before saying that.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: DeltaBoy on April 01, 2014, 10:37:19 am
Per CBS our buying power dropped by 16% for 98% of us all.   Jeff shot up the prices greater than 16%.   

Then why the heck did prices go up for the other 99.9% of the products we use everyday? I guess you want to blame Jeff for that also............
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

seasonhog

Quote from: Robert Shields on March 31, 2014, 10:36:54 am
Disconnect With Fans Grows as UA Continues to Shut Out Public

Robert Shields

The poorly conceived headline of an ad in Sunday's statewide sports section read, "Razorback Fans and Donors." Even with such a brilliant attention grabber like that, I have the God-given gift of being able to grossly ignore advertising I'm not interested in, so I never saw the advertisement until an informant texted me Sunday morning with the message, "Sport section page 5C."

Though I was in the middle of church, I was intrigued. When I opened the paper, there was the ad that started, "You may be aware that in October of 2013 Athletic Director Jeff Long asked the University of Arkansas to increase his compensation from $1,150,000 to $2,000,000 on the rationale that he had been contacted by the University of Texas about interviewing for the Athletic Director position."

The ad reported that Jeff Long is the highest paid athletic director in the SEC according to the USA Today's database of athletic director salaries. I have to mention at this point to the people who wrote this ad that Jeff Long's official role is not athletic director. As his title so plainly puts it, he's also a vice chancellor of intercollegiate athletics. To be clear, his title is Vice Chancellor of Intercollegiate Athletics and Director of Athletics.

The ad points out that the football team has only been to three bowl games in his six years, and the basketball team has never made the NCAA tournament under Long's direction. The NCAA tournament comment is technically wrong because John Pelphrey did make the NCAA tournament in 2008 just as Long had taken over after the official retirement of Frank Broyles.

The "Friends of the Razorbacks" out of Austin, Texas, may not have had everything straight in the ad, but the fact remains that under Long this school year the UA was the only SEC team that failed to make a bowl game in football or an appearance in the NCAA tournament, which officially makes the Razorback Program the worst in the conference.

The ad's premise is that Long's compensation does not match production on the SEC battle ground, which is hard to dispute. What the ad does not point out is that Long is a world-class fundraiser, or at least he has about doubled the budget for the UofA Athletic Program since taking the wheel. I guess the fundraising is the "vice chancellor" part of his job.

Unfortunately, money is not the true metric that matters in the SEC where winning is held above everything else.

The timing of this ad was curious if nothing else because Sunday was also the day the statewide paper ran its listing of the highest-paid state employees. Coming in at No. 3 was Long only behind UofA football coach Bret Bielema and basketball coach Mike Anderson -- the two guys who are putting their boss on the hot seat, one more than the other, with ads being run in the statewide paper.

Times are not good for Razorback sports, and if Dickens were writing this chapter of Razorback athletics it would simply say, "It was the worst of times. Period." The SEC is a truth machine. You can hide your team during spring practice and cloak it in darkness, but play in the SEC brings everything to light. You cannot hide forever how bad you are.

Nothing was more telling than this past week when "The Zone" radio show on 103.7 in Little Rock devoted several hours to the premise that there is a disconnect between the fans and the UofA. Caller after caller made great points about how the UA was continually disconnecting with the fans around the state and with a younger generation not growing up to be Razorbacks.

These days, however, the UA's answer to this problem is that you can get more connected to the UofA if you send a big fat check.

It could be a sampling error from the radio station, but the callers were overwhelming complaining about how they feel disconnected from the sports program they once loved. When money is the only thing that matters and fans aren't getting a return on the large investment they are being asked to give, this result should not come as a surprise.

The UA seems unconcerned. It continues to close football practices, even in spring, keep the media out, and only disseminate the information it wants you to know through official channels – its website – charging extra for the access wherever it can.

And then with such lack of transparency as with the case of the UA Advancement department's budgeting issues, you wonder why people feel disconnected.



Send your performance appraisal to fromthebench@yahoo.com.


+1, RS

The reaction to your post today reminds me of the word.....PIRANHAS.......

ChitownHawg

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on April 01, 2014, 11:30:01 am
Then why the heck did prices go up for the other 99.9% of the products we use everyday? I guess you want to blame Jeff for that also............

Are you insinuating inflation even hits the UofA?  ;)
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OTTER

Quote from: seasonhog on April 01, 2014, 12:07:11 pm

+1, RS

The reaction to your post today reminds me of the word.....PIRANHAS.......
Some things deserve a good shredding by hungry piranhas and RS post is one of those things.
BE AFRAID!!  Be very, very afraid!  The Hogs are hungry and you look a lot like lunch!

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: locusbug on April 01, 2014, 01:21:30 pm
Are you insinuating inflation even hits the UofA?  ;)

Sure it does. That being said what I'm really trying to say is everyone needs to quit blaming Jeff for everything they think is bad at the UA. He has to make tough decisions daily and he has bosses to answer to if those decisions are as bad as some people think and then go on here and shout Bad, Bad, Bad boy. IF they feel so strongly about it then email their concerned to his superiors.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Harley_Hawg


Hogwild

Quote from: jvanhorn on March 31, 2014, 11:43:20 am
He is probably not one hundred per cent right, but he is probably not one hundred per cent wrong.

What really amazes me is that after thousands of years.  As sophisticated and technology advanced as we are it still all comes down to:

Kill the messenger, LOL.   l

I really don't get the hate on this one.  IMO some of his other 'articles' have been far more negative.  Why this one was moved and the others weren't seems odd.  He pointed out the errors in the ad, and he without name calling gave a fairly accurate assessment of Long's tenure to date.

Guess it is ok to take a dump on CBB or MA, but don't  say something about Long or someone jimmies get rustled.

chitwnhog


chitwnhog

Quote from: cosmodrum on March 31, 2014, 12:18:20 pm
I'm a Proposal Manager for a very large IT company. In the public sector, if a bidder submits their bid after the due date/time, then they are ALWAYS disqualified. If they weren't and went on to win the bid, other vendors could cry foul and bring forth a lawsuit.

Also, they have to meet certain bid criteria. There is typically a formula used in public sector to determine who wins the bid. It leaves very little choice.

Example (albeit very simple):

a) completeness of response - 20%
b) acceptance of T&Cs - 20%
c) Pricing - 60%

All vendors are graded equally on certain criteria. Say Pepsi and Coke were both even on a and b, but Pepsi had a better price, then Pepsi HAS to be chosen.

And if Coke was indeed late on their proposal/quote submission, then I can tell you with 100% certainly that they were immediately kicked out of the bidding process.

Therefore, I drink Mountain Dew at games now.


Co
This is correct. I have dealt with both Coke and Pepsi professionally. Pepsi will bend over backward to get your business and in the long and short run is more cost effective. Coke has an attitude and thinks everyone should just want Coke and when it comes down to it they will do nothing to gain your business and when they screw up...guess what? You have to call Memphis or Atlanta to get things fixed.

Sir Oinksalot


...sugary drinks especially carbonated ones are terrible for you, youse should avoid them!!
Be ye therefore like the grasses and yield
to the inevitable forces of Nature,
and in so yielding survive...

goodguytex

Quote from: Sir Oinksalot on April 09, 2014, 09:52:09 am
...sugary drinks especially carbonated ones are terrible for you, youse should avoid them!!
I agree! Drink water!

DEVICEHIGH

Quote from: jesterzzn on March 31, 2014, 01:10:42 pm
Life is a series of value clarifications.  We can't all afford everything we want to do, and just because we can't afford it doesn't mean we 'deserve' for it to be cheaper.

Think about your statement.  You just said that because you personally cannot afford something, that someone else should be paid less so that you can enjoy a recreational activity.  Not food.  Not a roof over your head.  A Football game.

Why do you deserve to go to this football game?  Because you work hard.  You pay your bills.  You have a teenager at home.

Absouletly amazing.

The context is disconnected fans. I think.
Hillbilly? I prefer Appalachian American