247 rates our FB commits #10 in the Nation

[three hog night]

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Article/Arkansas-recruiting-class-in-2015-ranked-No-10-nationally-183821

[SouthSide Johnny]

A long long way from signing day and #6 in the SEC early.

[Squealers]

A long long way from signing day and #6 in the SEC early.

Rocking SAC, I love it!  I spent several years with them, and the AFCC.

CBB is building a team of strong recruiters.  I am not surprised.

[Tony Sloprano]

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Article/Arkansas-recruiting-class-in-2015-ranked-No-10-nationally-183821

So you are saying that recruiting rankings matter ?

[TheRazorbackGuy]

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Article/Arkansas-recruiting-class-in-2015-ranked-No-10-nationally-183821

Rating our fullback commits, three hog smite. Why are we rating fullbacks #10. The age of the fullback is dying.

[Lord of the Styes]

I read that the same way, the first time.

[VT HOG]

Rating our fullback commits, three hog smite. Why are we rating fullbacks #10. The age of the fullback is dying.

Not in Bielema's offense. Full back is a huge part.

[DeltaBoy]

Good to hear this.

[PennHOG]

 

Rating our fullback commits, three hog smite. Why are we rating fullbacks #10. The age of the fullback is dying.

Nooooo.  They're rating the Facebook commits!   Sheesh!   

[DLUXHOG]

Rating our fullback commits, three hog smite. Why are we rating fullbacks #10. The age of the fullback is dying.

Is nothing "good" for you?    I'll bet you would even pass up a "free" night with Scarlett Johansen for some odd hell bent reason....  Sheesh... Hogville is so overflowing with perpetual, eternal pissers and moaners......  good grief...

[welchog]

Great, except that put us 5th in our division.  TAMU, Bama, LSU, I understand...but MSU?  Hard to look at it for anything but what it is...disappointment.

[870hogfan]

Great, except that put us 5th in our division.  TAMU, Bama, LSU, I understand...but MSU?  Hard to look at it for anything but what it is...disappointment.

Lol Really?  Haha some fans just love to gripe.

[jkstock04]

Great, except that put us 5th in our division.  TAMU, Bama, LSU, I understand...but MSU?  Hard to look at it for anything but what it is...disappointment.

Great, except that put us 5th in our division.  TAMU, Bama, LSU, I understand...but MSU?  Hard to look at it for anything but what it is...disappointment.

I agree that's a little weird to see Miss St up there...but for ourselves if we ever finish 5th in our conference in recruiting it would be a banner year....a milestone if you will. We are not ever going to do much better than that in my opinion.

[HawgFan70]

Lol Really?  Haha some fans just love to gripe.

Was he griping? Did he say anything that wasn't the truth?

[ChitownHawg]

Was he griping? Did he say anything that wasn't the truth?

Saying you are disappointed is griping. Just as I am griping when I say I am disappointed in your reading comprehension. 

Just in case you want to gripe:

gripe
grīp/
verb
gerund or present participle: griping
1.
informal
express a complaint or grumble about something, esp. something trivial.
"they gripe about the busywork"

[HawgFan70]

Saying you are disappointed is griping. Just as I am griping when I say I am disappointed in your reading comprehension. 

Just in case you want to gripe:

gripe
grīp/
verb
gerund or present participle: griping
1.
informal
express a complaint or grumble about something, esp. something trivial.
"they gripe about the busywork"

He was stating facts. and his opinion thats not griping

[ChitownHawg]

He was stating facts. and his opinion thats not griping

Of course the "whiney one" thinks it is not griping and views it as facts. 

[HawgFan70]

Of course the "whiney one" thinks it is not griping and views it as facts. 

Your floor please explain how he was griping and not stating facts. You are doing what sunshine pumpers always do when asked to explain just making rude comments and calling names

[ChitownHawg]

Your floor please explain how he was griping and not stating facts. You are doing what sunshine pumpers always do when asked to explain just making rude comments and calling names

Dang you take all of the fun out of the forum with me having to hold your hand. In the last 10 years our classes have ranked between 25 - 30. Now in this VERY early ranking we are #10 which in any objective person's book it is a vast improvement.

But he was disappointed in the vast improvement. Understand now? No need to reply as I have piggybacked you enough on this thread. 

[HawgFan70]

Dang you take all of the fun out of the forum with me having to hold your hand. In the last 10 years our classes have ranked between 25 - 30. Now in this VERY early ranking we are #10 which in any objective person's book it is a vast improvement.

But he was disappointed in the vast improvement. Understand now? No need to reply as I have piggybacked you enough on this thread. 

Your wrong He said "Great" that we were ranked 10th at this point (not disappointed)
Then he stated a fact that we were 6th in our division, to that he was disappointed. To be so intelligent you miss a lot

[Inhogswetrust]

Your wrong He said "Great" that we were ranked 10th at this point (not disappointed)
Then he stated a fact that we were 6th in our division, to that he was disappointed. To be so intelligent you miss a lot

Those that speak of other's intelligence should know the difference between the proper usage of your and you're, as well as making sure there is a period at the end of a sentence.

[welchog]

To make it perfectly clear, I'm disappointed in the fact that regardless that we are prematurely ranked 10th, we are below the 50th percentile in our division...OUR DIVISION!  Better said, unless we up our game (and we have  a lot of time to go up or down) we don't set the world on fire by placing 5th in our division.

[SouthSide Johnny]

To make it perfectly clear, I'm disappointed in the fact that regardless that we are prematurely ranked 10th, we are below the 50th percentile in our division...OUR DIVISION!  Better said, unless we up our game (and we have  a lot of time to go up or down) we don't set the world on fire by placing 5th in our division.

It's a long way from signing day, The last two years we where even with Bama etc., when the game kicked off....

[HawgFan70]

Those that speak of other's intelligence should know the difference between the proper usage of your and you're, as well as making sure there is a period at the end of a sentence.

aww grammer police

[welchog]

It's a long way from signing day, The last two years we where even with Bama etc., when the game kicked off....

Even in terms of score on the board...but not even close on talent on the field.  I will give you two years ago as a lot on the coach, staff, and a rookie QB.  But the fact remains, their talent pool, as well as most of the division's, was superior to our's.

[870hogfan]

To make it perfectly clear, I'm disappointed in the fact that regardless that we are prematurely ranked 10th, we are below the 50th percentile in our division...OUR DIVISION!  Better said, unless we up our game (and we have  a lot of time to go up or down) we don't set the world on fire by placing 5th in our division.

This is a joke right?

[ChitownHawg]

This is a joke right?

Of course it's not. Welchog takes his negativity very seriously. He works hard to not even have a glimpse of hope in a #10 ranking. You should apologize for questioning his seriousness. 

Hogfan70 should be coming along soon to advise us we don't comprehend very well and Wehchog is just providing facts. 

[welchog]

Show me wins.   That is all i ask.

[VBMark]

The problem is that every month they post the new ratings, we slip. We were top five overall when they started in January. The question is, are the Hogs going to sign any five stars or will they sign more of Dean and Jackson level talent? The answer to that question will give you a hint of how far down the list we will eventually slide.

Notre Dame, who was the #10 team in 2014, signed no five stars and 16 four star players. USC who came in #11 signed two five stars and EIGHT four stars. So if you want us to move up the rankings or even stay where we are, then you now have some idea of what it will take to get there.

VB out...

[Arkamedes]

Great, except that put us 5th in our division.  TAMU, Bama, LSU, I understand...but MSU?  Hard to look at it for anything but what it is...disappointment.

If your biggest concern really is Arkansas being ranked below MSU, I'll make an attempt to ease your fears.

MSU is ranked higher for two reasons:

1. MSU has 9 commitments and we have only 7 - this gives MSU a higher team score in 247 Sports' rating system.
2. Our 7th commitment, Austin Cantrell, has yet to be rated by 247 Sports and therefore defaults to a 0.70 rating (a 3-star rating begins at 0.80) - this lowers our average player rating.

If you want to know how these two variables can affect the team rankings, take a look at how four of our seven recruits are ranked higher than MSU's highest ranked recruit.

Personally, I find it difficult to be disappointed with this class based on what I see but, then again, I don't normally look for reasons to be disappointed. WPS! Go Hogs!

[three hog night]

If your biggest concern really is Arkansas being ranked below MSU, I'll make an attempt to ease you fears.

MSU is ranked higher for two reasons:

1. MSU has 9 commitments and we have only 7 - this gives MSU a higher team score in 247 Sports' rating system.
2. Our 7th commitment, Austin Cantrell, has yet to be rated by 247 Sports and therefore defaults to a 0.70 rating (a 3-star rating begins at 0.80) - this lowers our average player rating.

If you want to know how these two variables can affect the team rankings, take a look at how four of our seven recruits are ranked higher than MSU's highest ranked recruit.

Personally, I find it difficult to be disappointed with this class based on what I see but, then again, I don't normally look for reasons to be disappointed. WPS! Go Hogs!

Wow fact and reason?!   thanks for putting together the information.  We are in good shape and some want to tear down everything that Petrino didn't build.

[three hog night]

ESPN does not rate stars or give a score for DEAN and CANTRELL.  ESPN lists stars for Colton Jackson, but does not a give a score.  3 of our commitments are not being counted by ESPN.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Y'all are currently up to #9.

Auburn is way down at #19. Guess this is a down month in recruiting.

It is about to be tax month, the slush fund for paying players is apparently down.

[Mike_e]

We've had 3 head coaches in 4 years.  4 DCs in 4 years. 3 OCs in 4 years (or is it 4?). No position coach has been here longer than 2 years.  We haven't had a winning season in 3 years and some want to gripe about even sniffing the top 10 in recruiting?

Please.  Go bum a quarter and buy yourself a better life.

[MTBrookHog]

Hogville fans mission statement from the great Reece Bobby, "If you're not first, you're last!"

[Southpointhog]

If your biggest concern really is Arkansas being ranked below MSU, I'll make an attempt to ease your fears.

MSU is ranked higher for two reasons:

1. MSU has 9 commitments and we have only 7 - this gives MSU a higher team score in 247 Sports' rating system.
2. Our 7th commitment, Austin Cantrell, has yet to be rated by 247 Sports and therefore defaults to a 0.70 rating (a 3-star rating begins at 0.80) - this lowers our average player rating.

If you want to know how these two variables can affect the team rankings, take a look at how four of our seven recruits are ranked higher than MSU's highest ranked recruit.

Personally, I find it difficult to be disappointed with this class based on what I see but, then again, I don't normally look for reasons to be disappointed. WPS! Go Hogs!

See, now this makes some sense!

[welchog]

Fine people.  Get all spun up on early numbers.  My point is that, even though it is a high ranking, it is extremely early and there are many in our own division ahead of us.  In reality, there is only one way we will go...and that is down.  High far remains to be seen.  How far will the others fall?  Historically, less than we will.

Therefore we will most probably be about right where we always are...30ish maybe 20ish.  Hard to get excited by that. 

Once again, show me the wins.

[ChitownHawg]

Fine people.  Get all spun up on early numbers.  My point is that, even though it is a high ranking, it is extremely early and there are many in our own division ahead of us.  In reality, there is only one way we will go...and that is down.  High far remains to be seen.  How far will the others fall?  Historically, less than we will.

Therefore we will most probably be about right where we always are...30ish maybe 20ish.  Hard to get excited by that. 

Once again, show me the wins.

I agree and the same was true this time last year when people were wringing their hands on our low ranking. History shows us the probability will be more like in the low 20s as our ranking. Can CBB win with this type of class? We will see.

[870hogfan]

Fine people.  Get all spun up on early numbers.  My point is that, even though it is a high ranking, it is extremely early and there are many in our own division ahead of us.  In reality, there is only one way we will go...and that is down.  High far remains to be seen.  How far will the others fall?  Historically, less than we will.

Therefore we will most probably be about right where we always are...30ish maybe 20ish.  Hard to get excited by that. 

Once again, show me the wins.

This class will be a top 15 class.

[three hog night]

Fine people.  Get all spun up on early numbers.  My point is that, even though it is a high ranking, it is extremely early and there are many in our own division ahead of us.  In reality, there is only one way we will go...and that is down.  High far remains to be seen.  How far will the others fall?  Historically, less than we will.

Therefore we will most probably be about right where we always are...30ish maybe 20ish.  Hard to get excited by that. 

Once again, show me the wins.

You talk a big game about performance and only Winning matters.  Do you reach that same potential as a man, husband, father and employee?

[tophawg19]

these rankings mean nothing . it's possible that some of these kids might not be here even. so much happens during a recruiting season that the early part doesn't matter

[jry04]

aww grammer police

You are not very smart, are you? I hate getting personal on the forum, but you insulted one poster's intelligence, yet you do not know the difference between "your" and "you're" or how to spell the word grammar. That is learned in middle school.

[jry04]

To make it perfectly clear, I'm disappointed in the fact that regardless that we are prematurely ranked 10th, we are below the 50th percentile in our division...OUR DIVISION!  Better said, unless we up our game (and we have  a lot of time to go up or down) we don't set the world on fire by placing 5th in our division.

Wow...

If we are top 10, there is not going to be a lot to separate us from the top 5. Our class is still going to be phenomenal, and comparable to the top of the SEC. People complain about us being barely in the top 25 every year. Now we are currently in the top 10, but we are only 5th in the sec so we still suck!

[ChitownHawg]

This class will be a top 15 class.

That is my hope. I believe CBB can win with that kind of class ranking.

[870hogfan]

Woah woah woah. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

Just watch bum.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Fine people.  Get all spun up on early numbers.  My point is that, even though it is a high ranking, it is extremely early and there are many in our own division ahead of us.  In reality, there is only one way we will go...and that is down.  High far remains to be seen.  How far will the others fall?  Historically, less than we will.

Therefore we will most probably be about right where we always are...30ish maybe 20ish.  Hard to get excited by that. 

Once again, show me the wins.

Your attitude has changed now that we are actually landing several 4 Star players early:

~

Not scientific, but very accurate:


Five Star - Best of the class (i.e.  any blue chipper signed by Tex, Bama, USCw, Fla, etc.)  WILL, barring injury, play in the NFL.  Schools like Ark, Pitt, Ore, etc. get maybe one of these a year.

Four Star - Just behind best of class (top 10%) (i.e.  any blue chipper not best in class, but signed by Tex, Bama, USCw, OhSU, etc.)  PROBABLY, barring injury, play in the NFL.  Schools like Ark, Pitt, Ore, etc. get a few of these a year.

Three Star - Next 25% (i.e. the bottom third of the class signed by Tex, Bama, USCw, OhSU, etc. after the 4 and 5 stars are used up nationally.)  MAY, barring injury and playing above themselves, play in the NFL.   Schools like Ark, Pitt, Miss St. use these to fill their classes annually.

Two Star - Next 50% (i.e. not seen in the class signed by Tex, Bama, USCw, OhSU, etc.)  MOST PROBABLY WILL NOT play in the NFL. Schools like Ark use these when they whiff on three stars.

One Star / NR - Bottom of the class.

[welchog]

You talk a big game about performance and only Winning matters.  Do you reach that same potential as a man, husband, father and employee?

I don't have to justify my manhood to you or anybody.

I've been married for over 26 years.

My wife and I have a 22 year old son (who happens to be autistic and will be with us for our lifetime).

I am a full Colonel in the US Army.

Sorry, I guess my standards are just a bit high, but that does not change things.  Yes, winning matters...to me and most the civilized world.  Why play the game if you don't intend to win...not just once in a while, but every time out.

[ricepig]

I don't have to justify my manhood to you or anybody.

I've been married for over 26 years.

My wife and I have a 22 year old son (who happens to be autistic and will be with us for our lifetime).

I am a full Colonel in the US Army.

Sorry, I guess my standards are just a bit high, but that does not change things.  Yes, winning matters...to me and most the civilized world.  Why play the game if you don't intend to win...not just once in a while, but every time out.

So, you think we aren't trying to win?

[welchog]

So, you think we aren't trying to win?

Don't doubt it for one minute.  Just like every other school.   

But just as Yoda said, (Paraphrase)  There is no try, there is either do...or not.

[ricepig]

Don't doubt it for one minute.  Just like every other school.   

But just as Yoda said, (Paraphrase)  There is no try, there is either do...or not.

Sure, and your point is?