Bentonville NLR Write up

[hawgsmellgud]

Was there. He's a freak. Need to work on ball handling and Defense.

[pillowhog]

Was there. He's a freak. Need to work on ball handling and Defense.

Yep=less AAU ball

[Rocket23]

Folks Sword gave his "opinion" on the game and the players.  It was just that.  He didnt get personal, slander a kid, or talk bad about the kid. 

The game report was pretty spot-on.  We have to remember that Monk, Allen, and the Dixon kid are all sophomores.  Think how good they will be in two years when they are in their senior seasons like Beard.

Lets not rake a fellow poster over the coals because of his opinion.  That is why we come here, to discuss. 

Monk is a great player that has potential to be phenomenal.  It was my first time to see him yesterday and he is just oozing with talent.  Have seen the NLR team several times as fan and official.  Love Beard's leadership and attitude not to mention his talent.

[RazorPiggie]

Folks Sword gave his "opinion" on the game and the players.  It was just that.  He didnt get personal, slander a kid, or talk bad about the kid. 

The game report was pretty spot-on.  We have to remember that Monk, Allen, and the Dixon kid are all sophomores.  Think how good they will be in two years when they are in their senior seasons like Beard.

Lets not rake a fellow poster over the coals because of his opinion.  That is why we come here, to discuss. 

Monk is a great player that has potential to be phenomenal.  It was my first time to see him yesterday and he is just oozing with talent.  Have seen the NLR team several times as fan and official.  Love Beard's leadership and attitude not to mention his talent.

Allen is a Jr is he not?

Idk who Dixon is.

[VT HOG]

Well Malik had two of the best athletes in the state double teaming him and he still scored 31 points. The original poster is high.

[PonderinHog]

Well Malik had two of the best athletes in the state double teaming him and he still scored 31 points. The original poster is high.

That stat might be misleading.  Good info on all the players.  Hope they're all Hogs. :razorback:

[Hawg Red]

Allen is a Jr is he not?

Idk who Dixon is.

KeVaughn Allen is, indeed, a junior.

And I also have no idea who "Dixon" is.

[ricepig]

KeVaughn Allen is, indeed, a junior.

And I also have no idea who "Dixon" is.

PG for Bentonville.

[Hawg Red]

PG for Bentonville.

Thanks.

Do you know his first name?

[ricepig]

Thanks.

Do you know his first name?

Nope

[ballinhog]

Well hopefully in a few years we will have a 3 guard lineup of Beard, Allen, and Monk and we won't care who's better of the 3. Our only hope will be that them 3 together are better than anybody else in college basketball and we win a national championship.

Imo, 2017 is the year we become serious national championship contenders. Assuming we keep all this in-state talent. And especially if somehow Portis is still around for his SR year that season. Then if we get the big kid from Colorado that's a sophomore and seems high on us, we might as well just say screw it and go undefeated in 2016-17

[chiefhawg]

Thanks.

Do you know his first name?

Tyrik Dixon
http://www.wingselite.org/roster_players/3064087?subseason=116019

[Cotton]

Tyrik Dixon had 18 pts
Monk 30.

Beard and Allen both had 28 a piece.

According to official final stats.

[Porkatarian]

Well hopefully in a few years we will have a 3 guard lineup of Beard, Allen, and Monk and we won't care who's better of the 3. Our only hope will be that them 3 together are better than anybody else in college basketball

I'd bet the house that we get 2/3.

Porkatarian out...

[Hawg Red]

Tyrik Dixon
http://www.wingselite.org/roster_players/3064087?subseason=116019

Thanks.

I remember reading about him now that I see him.

[Cotton]

I'd bet the house that we get 2/3.

Porkatarian out...

Im with you, I'd put the mortgage on 2/3.

[Porkatarian]

Im with you, I'd put the mortgage on 2/3.

I'm very happy with the 2 that we'll most likely land.


Porkatarian out...

[Hawg Red]

I'm very happy with the 2 that we'll most likely land.


Porkatarian out...

Happy with Beard (already signed) and Monk, eh?

[Hog_Fink]

i only went to the Fayetteville vs Bentonville game
Peyton Willis (soph) outplayed Monk & Dixon
although Monk was in foul trouble & i guess had an off night shooting.
he could have gotten to the stripe anytime he wanted. his stroke looks pure.
he's a ridiculous athlete already w/ more growing to do i'd imagine.
he looks SO young. he needs to put on some weight, but he'll fill out.

and he needs to move out of Northwest Arkansas.. the talent pool looked pathetic.
like someone else said, 'he's not gonna get better playing against these trust fund babies"

[Rocket23]

Well Malik had two of the best athletes in the state double teaming him and he still scored 31 points. The original poster is high.

true about double-teamed but put 15 in the column once the game was over more or less in the fourth quarter.

[Rocket23]

Tyrick Dixon is Bentonville's point guard.  A nice sophomore player in his own right.


My bad on Allen. Class of 2015.

[pillowhog]

i only went to the Fayetteville vs Bentonville game
Peyton Willis (soph) outplayed Monk & Dixon
although Monk was in foul trouble & i guess had an off night shooting.
he could have gotten to the stripe anytime he wanted. his stroke looks pure.
he's a ridiculous athlete already w/ more growing to do i'd imagine.
he looks SO young. he needs to put on some weight, but he'll fill out.

and he needs to move out of Northwest Arkansas.. the talent pool looked pathetic.
like someone else said, 'he's not gonna get better playing against these trust fund babies"

Where should he move?  7A is the best comp he will see in Arkansas

[yraciv]

Where should he move?  7A is the best comp he will see in Arkansas

Exactly! This is high school basketball. I don't know about Peyton Willis specificially, but often times that means the player has grown up in the city playing with his teammates and his family is settled in the area. Your going to uproot a family so they can move to a better basketball state. Yes Prep School is occasionally an option for elite recruits or for parents that can afford it, but thats not always a viable option for a young guy.  If Peyton is a D1 prospect, he can get there and get noticed playing AAU Ball and putting up numbers in the top classification in state. Hell guys have done it out of Fayetteville Christian as well through the years.

[hawgsmellgud]

true about double-teamed but put 15 in the column once the game was over more or less in the fourth quarter.

They were still guarding him with the same 2 until the clock ran out, so no matter when he put them up they were double and triple teaming him.

[pondwater jack]

So, Malik scored ONLY 31 for BENTONVILLE against NORTH LITTLE ROCK???!!!

No wonder OP wasn't impressed.

Am I mistaken, or is Malik not the NO 1 SG in the nation in his class? Someone must be way off base.

makes me wonder if hed scored 31 on the orignal dream team if the OP would have said "they didnt have kobe"

Sophmore score 31 agin 3 division athletes...not to impressed...

[The_Iceman]

Are there no video highlights of the game anywhere?

[Hog_Fink]

Exactly! This is high school basketball. I don't know about Peyton Willis specificially, but often times that means the player has grown up in the city playing with his teammates and his family is settled in the area. Your going to uproot a family so they can move to a better basketball state. Yes Prep School is occasionally an option for elite recruits or for parents that can afford it, but thats not always a viable option for a young guy.  If Peyton is a D1 prospect, he can get there and get noticed playing AAU Ball and putting up numbers in the top classification in state. Hell guys have done it out of Fayetteville Christian as well through the years.

wat.....

no. Monk needs to move out of NWA. Talent looks WAY down. Not challenging. Needs to play with better players & better competition. I'd ship him off to prep school. But, maybe being in NWA he'll be able to work with Marcus & Ronnie, now that Ronnie is jobless.

[Wild Bill Hog]

Monk was the best player on the court and it wasn't close.

Beard and Allen are really good players and I hope both are hogs but they aren't on the same level with monk. Arkansas hasn't had a player as dominant as monk since Corliss.

Beard is an Arkansas lock.

[yraciv]

wat.....

no. Monk needs to move out of NWA. Talent looks WAY down. Not challenging. Needs to play with better players & better competition. I'd ship him off to prep school. But, maybe being in NWA he'll be able to work with Marcus & Ronnie, now that Ronnie is jobless.

There is a professional NBA player from Junction City. High School competition doesn't mean darn because these guys see plenty of it testing thereselves in AAU ball.  My comment was based on Peyton Willis, a kid someone isn't getting tested at Fayetteville and should transfer out if he wants to take his game to the next level. Camps and AAU ball impact that, most kids can't help where they grow up and play high school ball. Monk is a different case as an elite prospect, whose family was willing to pack their life up. People act like that is always the answer to grow a prospects career, and more often then not it isn't.

[ricepig]

Where should he move?  7A is the best comp he will see in Arkansas

Uh, no, play NLR, Jonesboro, PV, or Hall every week, that's the best competition.

[Cotton]

Uh, no, play NLR, Jonesboro, PV, or Hall every week, that's the best competition.

Exactly. Never understood why he left NEA

[RazorAg]

Exactly. Never understood why he left NEA

Simple. To be close to the biggest influence on his basketball career, his brother.

[RazorPiggie]

Uh, no, play NLR, Jonesboro, PV, or Hall every week, that's the best competition.

NLR is 7A, He'll get all the competition he needs during AAU ball and summer camps. Can't fault the kid for going to the biggest and possibly best HS in the state.

[urkillnmesmalls]

Well Malik had two of the best athletes in the state double teaming him and he still scored 31 points. The original poster is high.

The report reminds me a lot of watching Pippen play at UCA.  People would show up expecting him to just light it up and be unstoppable, but EVERY team they played doubled and tripled him and forced everyone else to beat them.  Scotty would still have moments of greatness with a few dunks in transition, and could shoot over even double teams at time, but in the half court he garnered ALL of the defensive attention.  You could still obviously see he was the best player on the court.

What's bugging me about all this talk about Monk is that he's a SOPHOMORE.  I watched him play twice this year, and athletically...he's as good as any from the state of Arkansas I've ever seen.  Can he sharpen his skills?  Absolutely.  He's got two years to do it, and I hope he gets the coaching and mentoring necessary.

[RazorPiggie]

The report reminds me a lot of watching Pippen play at UCA.  People would show up expecting him to just light it up and be unstoppable, but EVERY team they played doubled and tripled him and forced everyone else to beat them.  Scotty would still have moments of greatness with a few dunks in transition, and could shoot over even double teams at time, but in the half court he garnered ALL of the defensive attention.  You could still obviously see he was the best player on the court.

What's bugging me about all this talk about Monk is that he's a SOPHOMORE.  I watched him play twice this year, and athletically...he's as good as any from the state of Arkansas I've ever seen.  Can he sharpen his skills?  Absolutely.  He's got two years to do it, and I hope he gets the coaching and mentoring necessary.

Me thinks people are just butt hurt.

[Scott7703]

Monk is the best player in the state, and the best player this state has seen since Archie Goodwin.

Monk is a better player than Archie Goodwin right now.

[Hoggish1]

Is Beard a Releford type? (That's who I think of off your description...)

[The Hogfather]

Is Beard a Releford type? (That's who I think of off your description...)

From what I've seen, I think he could be like Fred VanFleet.

But, yes, I think Releford could also be a good comparison.

[ricepig]

Simple. To be close to the biggest influence on his basketball career, his brother.

You mean to influence his brother's career.

[pillowhog]

Some in this thread are so clueless talking about Monk needing to move.  Dumbest crap Ive read in a while on here.  Ronnie Brewer played in that conference as did Corliss Williamson.  I think they did ok. 

[ricepig]

Some in this thread are so clueless talking about Monk needing to move.  Dumbest crap Ive read in a while on here.  Ronnie Brewer played in that conference as did Corliss Williamson.  I think they did ok. 

True, he didn't need to move at all, he'd have gotten plenty of attention in Lepanto.

[The_Iceman]

True, he didn't need to move at all, he'd have gotten plenty of attention in Lepanto.

Didn't they give his mother a nice job up in NWA?

[ricepig]

Didn't they give his mother a nice job up in NWA?

I'm not sure it was a nice job, and she has applied for a job back in Lepanto, according to "sources", haha.

[RazorAg]

You mean to influence his brother's career.

Not sure of tone/context here, so I'll just provide more clarification (of which I think you know already).  Marcus works with Malik constantly.  Marcus, also being on staff with the UofA, has access to a lot of tools and resources to help further develop Malik.  Marcus is also a part of the Wings organization, and since Malik plays with that organization, them being close provides efficiencies with travel and workouts.  Marcus is also the main male role model in Malik's life right now.

[The_Iceman]

There are some highlights on this website:

http://www.katv.com/category/189698/sports

[NEA_HogFan]

Thanks!  As I said, I've only seen a little video, so it's nice hearing from someone who's seen them both play.

I didn't think he was harsh at all.  Never seen a basketball player who didn't deserve some criticism, except maybe MJ.  And as you noted, Monk is only a sophomore, so he'll probably get better.  Calling a sophomore the second best player in the state isn't being tough, imo.

Btw, this reminds me of the time I saw Derek Hood play in a high school game.  Hood was already a McDonald's All-American and considered the 7th best player in the nation by some magazine I purchased.  I watched him play at UALR's gym against a couple of other touted players, including an Arkansas player who went on to have a very successful career at Ole Miss (I can't remember his name, but I'm sure someone will know who I'm talking about.)  Hood didn't look anything like a McDonald's AA and I knew right then that he was overrated, but I was very impressed with the kid who went to Ole Miss, and disappointed because I don't think we'd even recruited him.

Not sure about the ole miss player you are talking about. But does anyone remember Joe Harvell from Gosnell. He led them to their only state championship in 1989 and then played for Ole Miss from 90-93. He was a freshman all american and led the SEC with 25 points per game his junior year. He would have been a good one at Arkansas. He ended up passing on the draft to come back for his senior season. They got a new coach and a slower paced offense and his production went down. One of the great players to come out of arkansas.

[Rocket23]

Was it Keith Carter from Perryville.