Robb Smith and recruiting...

[Hogvillage Idiot]

Are you familiar with the concept of a message board?

Looks like some think that its a sounding board for coach and/or AD wannabe's.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

52 to Fresno State
52 to SMU
49 to Houston
52 to CINN
41 to Central FL

The Texans scored 49 points on the bucs??

[ChitownHawg]

Are you familiar with the concept of a message board?

What's a message board? Please explain? 

[Fayettechill14]

That's simply incorrect.  I agree with your basic premise that we need to search high and low for recruits and use our ties to the SEC to sign players a far distance from the south that might not normally be given an offer from an SEC school, but our recruiting in Texas is not as bad as your post indicates. 

As crappy as we've been the last two seasons, the two recruits we got from Texas were not leftovers that all those teams above didn't want.  They were both highly sought by several teams on your list.

Hopefully we start performing better on the field this year and we start getting 5-6 highly recruited players out of Texas instead of just 2.

Okay, I was using a little bit of hyperbole, but since we last signed a 4* recruit that was NOT a RB from Texas, we've signed 4* recruits from Florida, Minnesota, Hawaii, Missouri, Arkansas, and Louisiana.

We're getting some high 3* recruits, and many of them have great potential, but folks have been posting "# of 4* recruits in Texas vs NJ" lists, and it's worth noting that no one cares how many there are if we're not getting any of them... Basically, we're signing players we could just as easily be getting from other states, and with a higher success rate.

[swinesation]

52 to Fresno State
52 to SMU
49 to Houston
52 to CINN
41 to Central FL

I talked to your mom, and we agreed you're grounded from posting on hogville for one week.

[Nipsey Mussle]

You Might Find This Interesting - These coaches will go where the players are to recruit.

Thanks for posting that, New Era. We got 4 guys from Florida and all happened to be a furthest distance from us as possible in Florida. That shows the value of connections over distance.

[Nipsey Mussle]

52 to Fresno State
52 to SMU
49 to Houston
52 to CINN
41 to Central FL

Lol! Good call, bro.... maybe he did play teams from Cincinatti and Houston.

[Fayettechill14]

52 to Fresno State
52 to SMU
49 to Houston
52 to CINN
41 to Central FL

Oh dear. We got another dummy around here. Call the Mods and drag this drunk outta here.

[secneahog]

BUT if you post his defensive numbers when he was the DC they are very impressive. 

[ChitownHawg]

Smith wasn't the DC last season. He was in 2012.

Dang that research stuff is hard and it bites you in the butt if you get it wrong. So embarrassing. 

[FIOG]

If you are wondering about recruiting ties and why Robb Smith...NJ produces more NFL players than Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina and Mississippi. In fact, NJ ranks 6th in the nation in producing NFL players. Might be a good idea to have a guy that can recruit that area.


http://sports-kings.com/downanddistance/states-produce-nfl-players/

I think he might be able to get back on Vinny Ascolese.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

I think he might be able to get back on Vinny Ascolese.

Vinny signed with TCU as a LB, transferring from the College of the Sequoias(CA). 6-2, 235.

[grim_sleeper]

Thanks for posting that, New Era. We got 4 guys from Florida and all happened to be a furthest distance from us as possible in Florida. That shows the value of connections over distance.

Yeah,  but after Randy Shannon leaves this sinking ship the connections will be a lot harder.

[twistitup]

BUT if you post his defensive numbers when he was the DC they are very impressive. 

I got a number - Smith had 2 NFL caliber cb's...but Cobi still got over 300yds receiving . Awesome D game plan and super adjustments...great job Rob.

[Pathogen]

I got a number - Smith had 2 NFL caliber cb's...but Cobi still got over 300yds receiving . Awesome D game plan and super adjustments...great job Rob.

Yeah, in a game in which we were held to 26 points and lost.

[LZH]

I talked to your mom, and we agreed you're grounded from posting on hogville for one week.

Ho!

[PorkRinds]

Rutgers is joining the Big10 next season. Boston College,Cuse,and Pitt are all in the ACC now. These programs aren't in a small time conferences like the Big East anymore. They have become actual players in well respected national conferences. We will not be able to get a single player worth a darn from that area. A decade ago? Maybe. Now, No chance.

We got a 4 star QB from there last season. 

[hawgtime]

I talked to your mom, and we agreed you're grounded from posting on hogville for one week.

nice one!  bring out the Mom.

[PorkRinds]

I'm not bashing his abilities, I'm simply saying he has nothing in his resume to lead one to believe he is good or bad.  Add to the fact that we only have three coaches on staff with ANY sort of connection within our traditional recruiting footprint, the situation does lend itself worthy of discussion.

You get kids interested in a school via two approaches, connections with the high school/area or track record of putting kids in the NFL.  This guy has neither so it should be understandable why some of us are underwhelmed

Except the ones he put in the NFL.

[hawgsalot]

Yeah,  but after Randy Shannon leaves this sinking ship the connections will be a lot harder.

HMMMM seems to me Bret sure got a lot of FL guys preshannon so I would assume he's got pretty good connections.  Randy Shannon wants to be and will be a head coach next year regardless of what title he currently holds.  Get that in your head RS will be a head coach next year regardless of what title he currently holds!  Next year is the first year after his buyout conditions and he's gone regardless.

[twistitup]

Yeah, in a game in which we were held to 26 points and lost.

Held to? Yes we lost the game, but it wasn't due to Rob Smith- his D gave up huge yardage

[PorkRinds]

Held to? Yes we lost the game, but it wasn't due to Rob Smith- his D gave up huge yardage

So yardage is more important than points?  Giving up yardage to Cobi and Tyler isn't really that unexpected.  Keeping them from scoring is more important than how many yards you gave up right?  He was also coaching a team with inferior players from an inferior league, but came here and put a whipping on an SEC team.

[twistitup]

So yardage is more important than points?  Giving up yardage to Cobi and Tyler isn't really that unexpected.  Keeping them from scoring is more important than how many yards you gave up right?  He was also coaching a team with inferior players from an inferior league, but came here and put a whipping on an SEC team.

He is a DC. Goal- don't give up yardage and points...he did both. He should go thank the offense for the win. He did not have inferior talent on D- instead he had NFL talent. Did we?

[PorkRinds]

He is a DC. Goal- don't give up yardage and points...he did both. He should go thank the offense for the win. He did not have inferior talent on D- instead he had NFL talent. Did we?

Yep.  Cobi and Tyler are both in the NFL now.  I know you're not impressed because he didn't hold us to -47 passing yards and -155 rushing yards, but they held our offense to 28 points.  He coached on an inferior team from an inferior league and beat us.  Explain it away all you want, but that's what happened. 

[twistitup]

Yep.  Cobi and Tyler are both in the NFL now.  I know you're not impressed because he didn't hold us to -47 passing yards and -155 rushing yards, but they held our offense to 28 points.  He coached on an inferior team from an inferior league and beat us.  Explain it away all you want, but that's what happened. 

So we go hire the guy? Based on beating us?

Losers mentality

[Bebop]

Yep.  Cobi and Tyler are both in the NFL now.  I know you're not impressed because he didn't hold us to -47 passing yards and -155 rushing yards, but they held our offense to 28 points.  He coached on an inferior team from an inferior league and beat us.  Explain it away all you want, but that's what happened.

I don't understand why you would want to "hang-your-hat" on the fact that Rutgers beat an Arkansas team coached by "Smile." I'll acknowledged that Smith might be a good coach, but I'm not going to weigh it against a team that was coached by a temp-squad.

[PorkRinds]

I don't understand why you would want to "hang-your-hat" on the fact that Rutgers beat an Arkansas team coached by "Smile." I'll acknowledged that Smith might be a good coach, but I'm not going to weigh it against a team that was coached by a temp-squad.

That's not how I'm weighing him over all.  I'm just saying it's rich for a bunch of guys to question his resume when the team he coached in a lower conference came in and beat us. 

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

He is a DC. Goal- don't give up yardage and points...he did both. He should go thank the offense for the win. He did not have inferior talent on D- instead he had NFL talent. Did we?

I think points scored against, third down conversion rate, and takeaways are more important stats than yardage.