247 Sports' Shurburtt says

[Next1_04]

Bo Mattingly ‏@SportsTalkwBo  26m
Shurburtt: If I'm an Arkansas fan, I'm not going to worry about rankings. Player development is very important.


Bo Mattingly ‏@SportsTalkwBo  27m
Shurburtt: I would take Arkansas' class ahead of Florida's class, as crazy as that sounds.

Bo Mattingly ‏@SportsTalkwBo  31m
Shurburtt: For anybody to take shots at recruiting rankings and the people who put them together ... it's just garbage.

[hollywood hog]

Bo Mattingly ‏@SportsTalkwBo  27m
Shurburtt: I would take Arkansas' class ahead of Florida's class, as crazy as that sounds.

And I would take Oprah over Tyra Banks. 

[ricepig]

And I would take Oprah over Tyra Banks. 

More cushion for the pushin??

[Next1_04]

And I would take Oprah over Tyra Banks. 

More like Petrino over Jessica.

[Spikes]

Bo Mattingly ‏@SportsTalkwBo  27m
Shurburtt: I would take Arkansas' class ahead of Florida's class, as crazy as that sounds


It's official ... Shurburtt has gone crazy!!   

Going to go ahead and say, but I wish we had Florida Class

[Spikes]

More cushion for the pushin??

And there is a ton of that cushion to be pushin!!

[Inhogswetrust]

More cushion for the pushin??

More money...............................

[swinesation]

And I would take Oprah over Tyra Banks. 

At talk show hosting? Every time!

[Razorback de Nosferatu]

Bo Mattingly ‏@SportsTalkwBo  27m
Shurburtt: I would take Arkansas' class ahead of Florida's class, as crazy as that sounds


It's official ... Shurburtt has gone crazy!!   

Going to go ahead and say, but I wish we had Florida Class

He said we did a better job of filling needs.  Once again, Florida brings a ton of defensive studs, but there's little help coming in for their woeful offense.

[redeye]

He'll probably tell Florida fans that he'd take their class over Alabama's.

Not really surprising.

[Oliver]

He said we did a better job of filling needs.  Once again, Florida brings a ton of defensive studs, but there's little help coming in for their woeful offense.

I also think he's saying he'd take our class with Bielema's development over Florida's class with Muschamp's development.  I agree.  The only reason Muschamp still has a job there is because of the classes he pulls in

[HiggiePiggy]

I also think he's saying he'd take our class with Bielema's development over Florida's class with Muschamp's development.  I agree.  The only reason Muschamp still has a job there is because of the classes he pulls in

Sad part is that they could hire a good coach and still pull those classes in. 

[Oliver]

Sad part is that they could hire a good coach and still pull those classes in. 

Yep.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

He said we did a better job of filling needs.  Once again, Florida brings a ton of defensive studs, but there's little help coming in for their woeful offense.

They went pretty heavy on the O-Line in this class with 6, 2 four star QB's, a four star RB, two TE's and three WR's. 14 on offense out of a total of 24 signees.

[Danny J]

I heard the interview on Bo's show and Shurburtt SLAMS CBB's comments and says "now I think less of him as a human being" and other such comments. He was pissed.

[hoglady]

Bo Mattingly ‏@SportsTalkwBo  27m
Shurburtt: I would take Arkansas’ class ahead of Florida’s class, as crazy as that sounds


It's official ... Shurburtt has gone crazy!!   

Going to go ahead and say, but I wish we had Florida Class

His point was Florida met none of their offensive needs. They didn't sign good skill players. They loaded up on defense AGAIN. Which isn't really what they needed. They need to fix their offense and they didn't do that with this class.

[TrojanHog]

What did BB say to tick him off? And this won't help with recruiting rankings for us if he ticked off the rankings guru

I heard the interview on Bo's show and Shurburtt SLAMS CBB's comments and says "now I think less of him as a human being" and other such comments. He was pissed.

[hoglady]

I heard the interview on Bo's show and Shurburtt SLAMS CBB's comments and says "now I think less of him as a human being" and other such comments. He was pissed.

I missed that part of the interview.
I assume that was after hearing Beliema's comments regarding recruiting rankings and such.

[Razorback de Nosferatu]

They went pretty heavy on the O-Line in this class with 6, 2 four star QB's, a four star RB, two TE's and three WR's. 14 on offense out of a total of 24 signees.

Just saying what the man being discussed said.  That's all.  He said they didn't meet their needs, and that he'd take our offensive skill players over theirs.  Agree or not.  I haven't invested a minute studying Florida's recruiting class.

[HiggiePiggy]

His point was Florida met none of their offensive needs. They didn't sign good skill players. They loaded up on defense AGAIN. Which isn't really what they needed. They need to fix their offense and they didn't do that with this class.

Didn't meet any of their offensive needs?

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2014/florida-67

Looks like half of the class is offense.

[HiggiePiggy]

His comments were lip service.  He probably says something similar to everyone's team. 

[titsonboar]

Ol boy was upset.

[The_Iceman]

In regard to the Florida comment, he was refering to the Offensive talent we added. He defknitely said their class was ldefensively.

He said Florida would trade their offensive talent for ours striaght up anyday.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Just saying what the man being discussed said.  That's all.  He said they didn't meet their needs, and that he'd take our offensive skill players over theirs.  Agree or not.  I haven't invested a minute studying Florida's recruiting class.

Didn't mean to indicate that he was wrong, I just don't know. I wasn't meaning to counter you, just stating what they signed. Any way you cut it, that is two more than you usually sign on the O-Line each year, so they obviously feel they need the projected help.

[Tusks]

I keep saying "there's alabama" and then everyone else.

[Razorback de Nosferatu]

Didn't mean to indicate that he was wrong, I just don't know. I wasn't meaning to counter you, just stating what they signed. Any way you cut it, that is two more than you usually sign on the O-Line each year, so they obviously feel they need the projected help.

You're probably right. 

For the life of me, though, I don't know why any highly regarded offensive player would want to go play for Muschamp. 

[MuskogeeHogFan]

I keep saying "there's alabama" and then everyone else.

Well yeah, and take a look at the size of their recruiting/evaluation staff. They have people constantly monitoring and evaluating future recruits based on week to week performance and adjusting their focus based on projected needs for the future. In this way, the main staff can focus on coaching, while offering input as to what they will need and want for the future.

Of course it doesn't hurt to have won as much as they have that draws recruits to them (not to mention the number they put in the NFL every year and some early to the NFL), but it is the cumulative synergy of all things coming together that helps them continue to be more successful than most everyone else, going forward.

[Razorback de Nosferatu]

Ol boy was upset.

It was pretty amusing.  Dude kept saying that Bielema personally insulted him-- or, rather, his entire industry. 

This isn't the first time our coach has taken a shot at the recruiting services.  Furthermore, I've personally heard Coach B take some shots at HIMSELF.  He's just a relaxed, straight shooting guy. 

It's amusing to me how defensive that guy got over coach's comments.

[hoglady]

Was he ever pissed. I'm listening to the full interview now.
Said Beliema made it personal with his words and then he was off and running.
Was mad enough that he said - well you know folks could be taking shots at Beliema for managing to not win an SEC game last year.

He settled down a little as the interview went on but I don't think the guy will forgive or forget.

[cosmodrum]

Oh noes a recruiting dork gots offended by Bielema.

[Jek Tono Porkins]

Bielema really didn't say anything that was particularly controversial. He actually made a whole lot of sense in his press conference when he talked about under-developed and under-recruited kids. Bielema himself was a walk-on at Iowa.
In the "From the Hog Farm to Head Hog" series, Hayden Fry said that Bielema walked on at Iowa and wanted to play defensive line. He was 185 pounds. But by his senior year he was a team captain. So it's no wonder that Bielema doesn't put a whole lot of stock in recruiting rankings...the recruiters wouldn't have had him rated coming out of high school.

[hoglady]

Bielema really didn't say anything that was particularly controversial. He actually made a whole lot of sense in his press conference when he talked about under-developed and under-recruited kids. Bielema himself was a walk-on at Iowa.
In the "From the Hog Farm to Head Hog" series, Hayden Fry said that Bielema walked on at Iowa and wanted to play defensive line. He was 185 pounds. But by his senior year he was a team captain. So it's no wonder that Bielema doesn't put a whole lot of stock in recruiting rankings...the recruiters wouldn't have had him rated coming out of high school.

What offended the guy was the remark about the services existing because "those are just a bunch of guys that just need a job and something to justify what they're doing"

[BadHog]

What offended the guy was the remark about the services existing because "those are just a bunch of guys that just need a job and something to justify what they're doing"

The services exist because a bunch of goobers wanna pay $100 a year to follow this stuff 24/7 and the guys who put the info out are one step above carnival barker. This guy spouts a bunch of b.s. all year long and yahoos eat it up.

[Hawgzinbowlz]

After his responses about CBBs position on recruiting analysts I thought his last name should be Butthurt.

Bo may need to personal phone call him to come on again.

After wiping his nose he did say The Hogs recruiting class was successful.

" GO HOGS "

[Fayettechill14]

It was pretty amusing.  Dude kept saying that Bielema personally insulted him-- or, rather, his entire industry. 

This isn't the first time our coach has taken a shot at the recruiting services.  Furthermore, I've personally heard Coach B take some shots at HIMSELF.  He's just a relaxed, straight shooting guy. 

It's amusing to me how defensive that guy got over coach's comments.

Agreed. Bielema's job is not to bow to the recruiting rankings dude.

[Cure]

Arkansas met their needs everywhere except LB and that's only because they didn't get an instant impact player there (if they can't come in and get it done).

[hoglady]

OK - go ahead and bash the guy and his business.
But you know it's kind of ironic - you are on a sports message board, with knowledge, information and videos on recruits that you wouldn't have if it wasn't for guys like him.
If Rivals, 247 and Scout didn't exist - you wouldn't be debating what recruit is good or not because you wouldn't know one dang thing about any of them.

[Joe Hog]

I need a beer.

[N HOG]

The services exist because a bunch of goobers wanna pay $100 a year to follow this stuff 24/7 and the guys who put the info out are one step above carnival barker. This guy spouts a bunch of b.s. all year long and yahoos eat it up.

+1

That's a funny post.

[prairiehogcompanion]

If you have to quibble or a recruiting ranking you probably don't have much to say.

[hambone]

He said we did a better job of filling needs.  Once again, Florida brings a ton of defensive studs, but there's little help coming in for their woeful offense.

I've heard this "filling needs" stuff about our class.

We did not fill our needs on the defensive side of the ball at all. We literally brought in the exact same type of players in the back 7 of our defense that we have for 5 years now.

Projects at lb and safety, and ONE rated cb and the rest a little undersized and average rated.

How did that fill our needs on D?

[PennHOG]

After his responses about CBBs position on recruiting analysts I thought his last name should be Butthurt.

Bo may need to personal phone call him to come on again.

After wiping his nose he did say The Hogs recruiting class was successful.

" GO HOGS "

+1  I LOL'd

[Hoggish1]

What did BB say to tick him off? And this won't help with recruiting rankings for us if he ticked off the rankings guru

So, we should be looking to not tick off "recruiting gurus."  That's classic.  What do we get if they like us?

[Hoggish1]

Didn't meet any of their offensive needs?

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2014/florida-67

Looks like half of the class is offense.

Yeah only 9 of their 25 are on D.  But, Harris may move to DB once he sees he can't beat out Greer.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

I've heard this "filling needs" stuff about our class.

We did not fill our needs on the defensive side of the ball at all. We literally brought in the exact same type of players in the back 7 of our defense that we have for 5 years now.

Projects at lb and safety, and ONE rated cb and the rest a little undersized and average rated.

How did that fill our needs on D?

Undersized they are all long corners which is something we haven't had in a while. They will get stronger once they get on campus just like all student athletes.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

OK - go ahead and bash the guy and his business.
But you know it's kind of ironic - you are on a sports message board, with knowledge, information and videos on recruits that you wouldn't have if it wasn't for guys like him.
If Rivals, 247 and Scout didn't exist - you wouldn't be debating what recruit is good or not because you wouldn't know one dang thing about any of them.

So, it is possible to get the same info. for free, that recruiting subscribers shell out good money for?

[bigbadhog]

He'll probably tell Florida fans that he'd take their class over Alabama's.

Not really surprising.

+1 on that!

[qbrew]

OK - go ahead and bash the guy and his business.
But you know it's kind of ironic - you are on a sports message board, with knowledge, information and videos on recruits that you wouldn't have if it wasn't for guys like him.
If Rivals, 247 and Scout didn't exist - you wouldn't be debating what recruit is good or not because you wouldn't know one dang thing about any of them.

I'm not sure who you think is bashing them. They have value for the same reason that TMZ and other Entertainment news sites have value. There is a market for it.

That doesn't mean that Coaches should give a rats ass about their opinion. They don't perform a service to the coaches, they are there for the fans. If any coach says they disagree with CBB, they are likely lying.

[bigbadhog]

What offended the guy was the remark about the services existing because "those are just a bunch of guys that just need a job and something to justify what they're doing"

That was a pretty nasty comment.  BB can't seem to keep his mouth shut when it is the prudent thing to do.  That is something I continue to NOT like about him.  That is a fight he didn't need to pick.  It will all come out on the field the next few years and a battle of words is useless...

[qbrew]

That was a pretty nasty comment.  BB can't seem to keep his mouth shut when it is the prudent thing to do.  That is something I continue to NOT like about him.  That is a fight he didn't need to pick.  It will all come out on the field the next few years and a battle of words is useless...

It may be worded a bit harshly, but it's 100% true. There is a market, and they are filling it.