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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2013, 09:21:22 am »

Prodigal son story, guys.  Read your Bibles.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2013, 09:21:32 am »

Absolutely I do, but that is his character.

 Just like I know KF has stolen.....

...and that should keep him from transferring to Arkansas?
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2013, 09:21:58 am »

Prodigal son story, guys.  Read your Bibles.

Thank you.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2013, 09:22:22 am »

I would question his motive and loyalty.

If this is a joke, I don't get it.

If you're serious, this is the most absurd thing that I've read on hogville to date.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2013, 09:22:37 am »

Prodigal son story, guys.  Read your Bibles.
the difference........his parents left with him.......different story.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2013, 09:23:34 am »

...and that should keep him from transferring to Arkansas?
Based on character, then yes. We have ran players off that stole, what makes it right to bring one in that did?
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2013, 09:23:55 am »

Tough darn, kid.  Don't come back.

What is your rationale for this statement?
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2013, 09:24:16 am »

Absolutely I do, but that is his character.

 Just like I know KF has stolen.....
just like the uber Christian faux hawk sporting Rot Clarke. Probably didn't know what to do with all that Razorback stuff he stole once he transferred.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2013, 09:24:46 am »

the difference........his parents left with him.......different story.

I'm not one to quote the Bible, but I think that Arkansas is the father/family in his analogy.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2013, 09:26:47 am »

When the hogs needed him he chose the enemy . now he wants to come home , closer to wal-mart Tyson etc. He chose to fight against us in direct on the field competition . you lie with dogs , you get fleas and we don't need fleas at the U OF A . He helped recruit Arkansas kids against us SO NO THANKS . THIS AIN'T YOUR HOME STATE NOW. BAMA BOY

I think you are being serious.

Reading this thread gives me the same type of enjoyment that I get people watching in Branson.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2013, 09:26:53 am »

My son wouldn't have left......
If you make your kid go to a school that they don't want to,

Then you are a bad parent.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2013, 09:28:03 am »

Based on character, then yes. We have ran players off that stole, what makes it right to bring one in that did?

How do you know we haven't brought someone in......?
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2013, 09:28:12 am »

Some kids steal as well..........but not mine.

What's your point?
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2013, 09:28:54 am »

Prodigal son story, guys.  Read your Bibles.

If the Prodigal son had two years of eligibility remaining, I'd say "come home", but with one year remaining and 4.6 speed, I'd say welcome back to Arkansas and ASU.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2013, 09:28:55 am »

I would love to see who paid the Shiloh tuition during his 3 years there. Quite a step up when you lived in West Fork and went to school there first.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2013, 09:29:51 am »

What's your point?
Reading comprehension........go back and read.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2013, 09:30:45 am »

I would love to see who paid the Shiloh tuition during his 3 years there. Quite a step up when you lived in West Fork and went to school there first.
They offer jobs there as well....
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2013, 09:33:03 am »

They offer jobs there as well....

I'd say your problem is more with Shiloh, Gus, & Auburn than anything else. If Frazier was from LR & wanted to transfer from UGA, would you feel the same way?
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2013, 09:34:43 am »

Stay Classy . . . OK.  You probably would have welcomed back Michael Dyer with open arms as well wouldn't you. 

LOYALTY . . . whip out the Webster's Dictionary and take a read.

I was referencing your knock against B Mitchell, big guy...
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2013, 09:38:14 am »

McBride, Cornelius, Mosley, and Hollister are reaches?

Check their offer lists it will answer that question for you. Cornelius has a couple nice offers.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2013, 09:39:38 am »

Isn't Bielema already on record about this kind of thing?  I thought he stated that if you swing and miss on Arkansas from the get-go, not to come back looking to get in later.  See M. Dyer situation.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2013, 09:43:10 am »

I have no sympathy for somebody that went to school 5 minutes from the u of a and CHOSE not to go here.

Don't come crying back now because you weren't as good as you thought you were. Maybe uab can use you and find a job for mom and dad. The state of Arkansas shouldn't care less about you.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2013, 09:47:12 am »

If this is true he may want to go somewhere close to home and have a better chance of getting playing time. It could be that simple.

There's always Tulsa!
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2013, 09:50:21 am »

If he wants to walk-on, what's the harm?  It's not like he was a criminal (Dyer). Added bonus is you have him as an example to kids that are considering Auburn.  Grass ain't always greener especially on the Plains of west Georgia ;)
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2013, 09:53:23 am »

Based on character, then yes. We have ran players off that stole, what makes it right to bring one in that did?

Depends on if he is a 4* LB.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #75 on: December 22, 2013, 09:54:18 am »

Reading comprehension........go back and read.

Haha.

I've read it. My point was that the point that you were trying to make is completely void of logic or rational thought.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #76 on: December 22, 2013, 09:55:14 am »

I just wish he was immediately eligible. We could run the WR pass, Lord knows he could always hit a guy in a Hog uniform.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2013, 09:59:50 am »

I met him for a few seconds once - very respectful kid
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #78 on: December 22, 2013, 10:03:26 am »

I have heard from a source close to the program that Frazier wants to transfer to Arkansas to play WR as a walk on.

I would be afraid his allegiance to Gus and Auburn would outweigh his newfound "commitment" to the Hogs. Obviously, it's not my call but I would tell Fraizer we weren't interested.

Also, if this is true I find it a little more than interesting.  Does Fraizer now realize the he isn't headed to the NFL and needs to start planning for his future outside of football? And does he now think the Arkansas family would take better care of him after college than the Auburn family would? No Keihl, you hitched your wagon to Gus a few years ago and you need to stay in Auburn.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #79 on: December 22, 2013, 10:09:01 am »

Absolutely I do, but that is his character.

 Just like I know KF has stolen.....

farm, buddy, it's been years since that happened

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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #80 on: December 22, 2013, 10:09:24 am »

well if you are throwing those two names out there, at least compare apples to apples. Frazier played in our conference, in our division. Most coaches block transfers to inner conference rivals, and it is standard to sit out 2 years in those cases. As far as my son, he would have to accept the repercussions that comes along with those decisions.

If he's walking on, I don't think you can block the transfer. When you hear of schools limiting the schools to which they'll allow a kid to transfer, that is only if the kid takes a scholarship to those schools. He'd still have to sit out, but I don't believe there is any way to limit a transfer for a walk on.

I also find it interesting that scholarship transfers can be limited this way, considering they are one year renewable scholarships, although now schools are offering four year scholarships as well.
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #81 on: December 22, 2013, 10:15:25 am »

I'm glad Mike Anderson allowed "Arkansas boys" Harris & Gulley to transfer back
To the Hogs....

I'm pretty sure Harris was never offered by Pelphry, not sure about Gulley.
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« Reply #82 on: December 22, 2013, 10:15:35 am »

I just wish he was immediately eligible. We could run the WR pass, Lord knows he could always hit a guy in a Hog uniform.

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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #83 on: December 22, 2013, 10:16:06 am »

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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2013, 10:17:17 am »

If true, this would make the rumor false that his mother and father left NWA because his father got a job for an Auburn booster.

It could still be true. Perhaps his father lost his job when Kiehl didn't perform up to expectations.
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« Reply #85 on: December 22, 2013, 10:22:05 am »

He also could be wanting to come to funnel info back to Auburn. Wouldn't put that past ole Gus at all.
You've got to be kidding me, right?  I hope that's sarcasm, although, I don't read any.  Why would Gus want inside info on a team he basically owns when he plays them?

THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!  I NEED TO PUT ON MY TIN FOIL HAT!
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« Reply #86 on: December 22, 2013, 10:26:14 am »

You've got to be kidding me, right?  I hope that's sarcasm, although, I don't read any.  Why would Gus want inside info on a team he basically owns when he plays them?

THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!  I NEED TO PUT ON MY TIN FOIL HAT!

The coach of Auburn's record as a head coach/assistant coach against Arkansas:

2-3

Owned....hardly. Typical
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #87 on: December 22, 2013, 10:27:30 am »

When the hogs needed him he chose the enemy . now he wants to come home , closer to wal-mart Tyson etc. He chose to fight against us in direct on the field competition . you lie with dogs , you get fleas and we don't need fleas at the U OF A . He helped recruit Arkansas kids against us SO NO THANKS . THIS AIN'T YOUR HOME STATE NOW. BAMA BOY


so are you calling Walmart, Tyson Chicken and JB Hunt to inform them he's unhireable after graduation then?
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2013, 10:29:01 am »

http://rivals.yahoo.com/houston/basketball/recruiting/player-Alandise-Harris-95326

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/arkansas-harris-taking-control-after-transfer

I probably should stated that Pelphrey offered him as a sophomore but rescinded the offer.  That's even worse than I remember.

Harris said Arkansas was his top choice, and that Pelphrey offered him a scholarship as a sophomore an offer he accepted. However, he said Pelphrey didn't want him to go public with his commitment until after he earned the grades needed to be eligible.

Those grades weren't secured until the spring of Harris' senior year, he said, at which time the promised scholarship from Arkansas was no longer an option.
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« Reply #89 on: December 22, 2013, 10:31:43 am »

The coach of Auburn's record as a head coach/assistant coach against Arkansas:

2-3

Owned....hardly. Typical
You = missing my point
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« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2013, 10:34:47 am »

You = missing my point

I got your point. You tried making it with faulty info.
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« Reply #91 on: December 22, 2013, 10:35:54 am »

I got your point. You tried making it with faulty info.
I think not, sir.  As a head coach, he owns the record against us.
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« Reply #92 on: December 22, 2013, 10:36:19 am »

I was referencing your knock against B Mitchell, big guy...

I knew exactly who and what you were referencing.  You can tell from my previous posts on this subject in older threads.  You don't leave your team for "self."  But hey, it's all about that NFL contract isn't it . . . that's definitely not classy in my book. 
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« Reply #93 on: December 22, 2013, 10:39:23 am »

I think not, sir.  As a head coach, he owns the record against us.

Funny how the fans of Auburn boast the record of the teams he was an OC of until it inconveniently puts their hero in a bad light. This hypocritical bs is why the man has many detractors on this site

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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #94 on: December 22, 2013, 10:49:48 am »

I knew exactly who and what you were referencing.  You can tell from my previous posts on this subject in older threads.  You don't leave your team for "self."  But hey, it's all about that NFL contract isn't it . . . that's definitely not classy in my book. 
well...he committed 4 yrs and is an Arkansas alum, switched positions to help his team, patiently waited for his opportunity to start.  The situation didn't work out, so he transferred to where he thought it would work out?  Would it have been better for him to remain on the bench and not pursue a starting role at NCSt?  Obviously it didn't work out for him, but its not like he trashed and bashed the hogs or left after 1 semester.

Seriously need to take off your "Merica, Hogs or nuthin" blinders when comparing Frazier/Dyer to Mitchell...
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« Reply #95 on: December 22, 2013, 10:50:00 am »

Funny how the fans of Auburn boast the record of the teams he was an OC of until it inconveniently puts their hero in a bad light. This hypocritical bs is why the man has many detractors on this site

^^^^^^^ THIS X 1,000,000
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #96 on: December 22, 2013, 10:53:01 am »

I knew exactly who and what you were referencing.  You can tell from my previous posts on this subject in older threads.  You don't leave your team for "self."  But hey, it's all about that NFL contract isn't it . . . that's definitely not classy in my book. 
Oh and getting a bachelors from UofA and a masters from NC St just screams NFL money grabbing good for nothing.
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« Reply #97 on: December 22, 2013, 10:57:35 am »

Oh and getting a bachelors from UofA and a masters from NC St just screams NFL money grabbing good for nothing.

just post this in response to him next time
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #98 on: December 22, 2013, 11:09:58 am »

I'm sure Gus don't need KF, now that he has used everyone necessary to obtain his ultimate goal
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Re: Kiehl Frazier
« Reply #99 on: December 22, 2013, 11:16:48 am »

How many were against Broderick Green leaving USC to come home to Arkansas?
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