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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2013, 03:44:11 pm »

Les Miles hired Houston Nutt to come in and do the same thing
les is still amazed at how many different ways Nutt could diagram the smoke draw
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2013, 04:11:49 pm »

Les Miles hired Houston Nutt to come in and do the same thing

I gratitude,  Houston took Les out to lunch at Sonic. Houston had a milkshake and Les ate the grass around the signpost.
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2013, 04:39:04 pm »

I gratitude, Houston took Les out to lunch at Sonic. Houston had a milkshake and Les ate the grass around the signpost.

yep and these guys are multi millionaires... makes you wanna go jump off a  tall building doesnt it?
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2013, 05:13:51 pm »

cant criticize the man on recruiting that. damn. but we all know after  6 months of good sex, she is basically ruining his life.

Darn fine way to go though....
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2013, 05:15:01 pm »

word.

my uncle once offered this jewel  (speaking of women)

if they didnt have a  ***** , they'd be pullin a plow.... 

thats some good old school country for you hogvillians wearing skinny jeans
Listen to the Wang.
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2013, 05:28:14 pm »

Listen to the Wang.



Letting the wang control them is what gets most men in trouble.

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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2013, 05:53:47 pm »



Letting the wang control them is what gets most men in trouble.




Houston & Bobby concur
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2013, 07:21:19 pm »

Smart move by saban.

You damn right it is a smart move by Saban.  Kiffen is and has been a d-bag as head coach, but has never failed to generate offensive production. 

Furthermore, a big time leader seeks council from outside sources to be sure he is current on trends, changes, etc. instead of surrounding himself with yes men to soothe his ego.   

Nick has found his offense might need to put more points up in order to continue to hold advantage over modern offenses like Auburn, Missouri, Texas A&M, etc.

Notice I said might.  Nick might also decide he doesn't need to change a thing, but at least he is making an informed decision and not limiting his teams potential by letting his ego convince him he knows everything there is to know without consulting others who have also been successful.

I'm impressed, but not surprised. Saban practices sound decision making processes or he wouldn't be nearly as successful as he had been.  This in an area good coaches could learn from to become great coaches.  Any names come to mind?

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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2013, 07:35:02 pm »

Let's take a look at the Saban coaching tree shall we?

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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2013, 08:44:02 pm »

Let's take a look at the Saban coaching tree shall we?



This Tree is quite a stretch. For example, Jason Garrett had 18 years of coaching experience, including stints with 5 NFL teams, before becoming QB coach for Saban in Miami.
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2013, 08:25:42 am »

You damn right it is a smart move by Saban.  Kiffen is and has been a d-bag as head coach, but has never failed to generate offensive production. 

Furthermore, a big time leader seeks council from outside sources to be sure he is current on trends, changes, etc. instead of surrounding himself with yes men to soothe his ego.   

Nick has found his offense might need to put more points up in order to continue to hold advantage over modern offenses like Auburn, Missouri, Texas A&M, etc.

Notice I said might.  Nick might also decide he doesn't need to change a thing, but at least he is making an informed decision and not limiting his teams potential by letting his ego convince him he knows everything there is to know without consulting others who have also been successful.

I'm impressed, but not surprised. Saban practices sound decision making processes or he wouldn't be nearly as successful as he had been.  This in an area good coaches could learn from to become great coaches.  Any names come to mind?



Yep and Lana always good to look at.
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2013, 08:37:42 am »

You damn right it is a smart move by Saban. Kiffen is and has been a d-bag as head coach, but has never failed to generate offensive production. 

Furthermore, a big time leader seeks council from outside sources to be sure he is current on trends, changes, etc. instead of surrounding himself with yes men to soothe his ego.   

Nick has found his offense might need to put more points up in order to continue to hold advantage over modern offenses like Auburn, Missouri, Texas A&M, etc.

Notice I said might.  Nick might also decide he doesn't need to change a thing, but at least he is making an informed decision and not limiting his teams potential by letting his ego convince him he knows everything there is to know without consulting others who have also been successful.

I'm impressed, but not surprised. Saban practices sound decision making processes or he wouldn't be nearly as successful as he had been.  This in an area good coaches could learn from to become great coaches.  Any names come to mind?

i assume you arent counting this season's USC  offense.
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2013, 08:52:11 am »

This Tree is quite a stretch. For example, Jason Garrett had 18 years of coaching experience, including stints with 5 NFL teams, before becoming QB coach for Saban in Miami.

While I agree that any measure of what coach might have influenced (or been influenced) by another coach can be stretch to the bounds of credibility, this type of measure is probably the best we have. 

In all honesty, I really thought Saban's tree would be broader (wider) than it is....
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2013, 11:00:02 am »

Bama's offense has gotten a little stale. Nussmeier didn't have a great year. I'm sure Saban is just trying to bring in a fresh perspective and shake things up a bit.

Saban has said that he's now "starting all over again" at Alabama, so maybe this is part of the process.
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2013, 11:04:22 am »

Bama's offense has gotten a little stale. Nussmeier didn't have a great year. I'm sure Saban is just trying to bring in a fresh perspective and shake things up a bit.

Saban has said that he's now "starting all over again" at Alabama, so maybe this is part of the process.

Is ULM on Bama's schedule for next year?  ;)
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Saban hires Lane Kiffin to run Alabama's offense.
« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2014, 02:24:28 pm »

Say youíre a football coach who has fallen on hard times. You got fired at your previous job. Your reputation is lousy.

Know what you need? Coaching rehab.

If youíre trying to rehab your image and regain footing in your chosen profession, what better place than on Nick Sabanís staff?

After a season or two of calling offensive plays for the Crimson Tide, Kiffin will be back in demand. Why? Because if you are deemed worthy of being hired by Saban and can hold up under his domineering style, youíre well on the road to recovery.

Different coaches rehab their careers in different ways. After Bobby Petrino lost control of his Harley and his career at Arkansas in April 2012, he sat out the following season. Then Western Kentucky gave him an opportunity to re-enter the coaching world.

After one season with the Hilltoppers, his rehab was complete. Petrino hopped to Louisville, where he previously had been head coach in 2003-06.

And then thereís Derek Dooley...

As for Kiffin, this is quite a career shift. For years, he somehow managed to move up the coaching ladder despite a resume that was lacking. Really, now, how do you go from offensive coordinator at Southern Cal to head coach of an NFL team at the age of 32? Granted, it was the Raiders but thatís still quite a leap.

Likewise, he was out of work when Tennessee hired him as head coach. And he had just gone 7-6 with the Vols when Southern Cal called in January 2010. To this point, he is much better at getting jobs than keeping them.

Now heís roughly back where he started in 2006 when he was calling plays for Pete Carroll at Southern Cal. Itís a smart move. After washing out at Southern Cal and getting fired at midseason, he was not exactly in demand. This was the best way to get back into the game.

It takes two to rehab so Saban had to be on board. He is. While he is acutely aware of Kiffinís flaws and shortcomings, Saban has his own agenda. He wants to win national championships. And he sees Kiffin as a means toward that end.

Saban has been a fan of Kiffin for quite some time. He tried to hire him in 2007. Later, Saban praised Kiffin profusely after the 2009 Alabama-Tennessee game when Kiffinís overmatched Vols almost beat the eventual national champion Tide in Tuscaloosa.

When Doug Nussmeier left Alabama to become offensive coordinator at Michigan, Saban sent out feelers and eventually hired Kiffin. The move raised lots of eyebrows. Saban is a control freak. Kiffin is a loose cannon. Why bring in an assistant coach who could be a distraction.

My question: When was the last time an Alabama assistant was a distraction?

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20140128/COLUMNIST0202/301280120/2072/sports

Thinks Saban will keep Kiffin under controls and he rarely lets the assistants address the media.
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Re: Saban hires Lane Kiffin to evaluate Alabama's offense.
« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2014, 10:19:38 am »

AL.com sports @aldotcomSports  2h 
Lane Kiffin's former players expect him to find success at Alabama, call him an 'offensive guru' ow.ly/ub6aN

Four former USC players, all of whom endured the midseason coaching switch that kickstarted Kiffin's journey from Manhattan Beach to Tuscaloosa, endorsed Nick Saban's decision to hire Kiffin as his new offensive coordinator.

Most of the responses to questions about Kiffin sounded a lot like former USC tight end Xavier Grimble's.

"I think he's going to do well in that position," Grimble said. "I still think he will be a good coach later on if he gets another opportunity to be a head coach. I couldn't see why he wouldn't do well at it."

Defensive lineman George Uko had a different perspective of a coach he described as an "offensive guru." He saw a head coach who "overthought things" because "he saw the game so slow that he would sometimes overanalyze."

It's at the heart of the reason why Uko thinks Kiffin will "take Alabama to the next level" in his first offensive coordinator-exclusive role since 2006.

"I definitely think he was better in just his cylinder," Uko said...
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