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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #850 on: November 16, 2014, 05:31:37 pm »

Perhaps you aren't as dumb as you appear after all. Nah!

At least two-thirds of the SEC West would be undefeated with FSU's schedule....... 8)

Ad hominem is unbecoming. You're better than that.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #851 on: November 16, 2014, 05:33:43 pm »

Same thing that TPD, FSUAD and Jimbo says........ 8)

(At least you are consistent as a Criminole fan.)

Interesting - you left out the State's Attorney office. Wouldn't they also be a colluding party? Nah, because history doesn't support that narrative.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #852 on: November 17, 2014, 06:41:04 am »

Interesting - you left out the State's Attorney office. Wouldn't they also be a colluding party? Nah, because history doesn't support that narrative.
Yeah, forgot them. Thanks for pointing that out.

So to correct: Same thing that TPD, FSUAD, AG and Jimbo says........
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #853 on: November 17, 2014, 06:43:35 am »

Interesting that an Attorney can manipulate a Student Conduct Hearing as if it were a Court Proceeding.

FSU is ALL-IN.......... 8)
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 04:20:17 pm by NoNC4Tubs »
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #854 on: November 17, 2014, 07:11:57 am »

Yeah, forgot them. Thanks for pointing that out.

So to correct: Same thing that TPD, FSUAD, AG and Jimbo says........

I know right! It's just all one big conspiracy to cover everything up, and while you're at it, go ahead and throw in the State House, Senate, heck even throw in the governor. They're all in on it!
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #855 on: November 17, 2014, 07:18:56 am »

Interesting that an Attorney can manipulate a Student Conduct Hearing a Court Proceeding.

FSU is ALL-IN.......... 8)

Why is that weird? An accuser can manipulate a Title IX investigation and potential civil case in the court of public opinion.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #856 on: November 17, 2014, 08:13:41 am »

Why is that weird? An accuser can manipulate a Title IX investigation and potential civil case in the court of public opinion.

It is weird, you just can pull the appendages from your mouth long enough to see
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #857 on: November 17, 2014, 08:53:47 am »

Interesting that an Attorney can manipulate a Student Conduct Hearing a Court Proceeding.

FSU is ALL-IN.......... 8)

Oh and FTR, a code of conduct hearing is not a court proceeding.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #858 on: November 17, 2014, 08:59:58 am »

It is weird, you just can pull the appendages from your mouth long enough to see

Well that sure was an insightful post; full of excellent points and very knowledgeable. I am eagerly awaiting the brilliance you'll hammer out in your next post. I think the only thing lacking was that the message wasn't typed in all caps. That would have really got your point across.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #859 on: November 17, 2014, 04:18:30 pm »

I know right! It's just all one big conspiracy to cover everything up, and while you're at it, go ahead and throw in the State House, Senate, heck even throw in the governor. They're all in on it!

Not quite.........and that might prove to be your downfall.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #860 on: November 17, 2014, 04:19:44 pm »

Oh and FTR, a code of conduct hearing is not a court proceeding.

EXACTLY my point.........!!!!  8)

You ain't so dumb after all.

(Go back and read my correction.)
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #861 on: November 17, 2014, 07:48:40 pm »

EXACTLY my point.........!!!!  8)

You ain't so dumb after all.

(Go back and read my correction.)

That wasn't there earlier. :)

Anyway, Cornwell did make a good point in requesting the delay - she and her attorneys have had an excessive, actually obscene, amount of time to get her story straight (a.k.a. one that actually fits the physical evidence - which makes the 5th version for those of you keeping score at home), and then they try to spring a kangaroo court on Winston with a 2-week window to pore over a thousand pages in documents.

There is nothing typical about this hearing - the fact that a retired FL Supreme Court Justice is presiding is unprecedented. This is nothing more than a CYA move by the university in the face of its Title IX investigation.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #862 on: November 17, 2014, 07:53:48 pm »

One more interesting point - both Casher and Darby have already had their hearing, and neither was even charged with being an accessory to assault or not preventing an assault. Darby was cleared and Casher got a year probation for filming the incident without approval. Now, why, if an assault had occurred, would neither of those 2 be charged with not helping to prevent an assault? The accuser could have gone that route had she chosen to, but for some reason neglected to do so. Why do you think that is?
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #863 on: November 17, 2014, 08:21:04 pm »

One more interesting point - both Casher and Darby have already had their hearing, and neither was even charged with being an accessory to assault or not preventing an assault. Darby was cleared and Casher got a year probation for filming the incident without approval. Now, why, if an assault had occurred, would neither of those 2 be charged with not helping to prevent an assault? The accuser could have gone that route had she chosen to, but for some reason neglected to do so. Why do you think that is?
Has she got her new car yet?
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #864 on: November 17, 2014, 08:37:07 pm »

Has she got her new car yet?

LOL wrong Florida school my friend. That's how they do in Gainesville.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #865 on: November 18, 2014, 06:55:03 am »

LOL wrong Florida school my friend. That's how they do in Gainesville.

You really believe that, don't you?
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #866 on: November 18, 2014, 06:56:32 am »

That wasn't there earlier. :)

Anyway, Cornwell did make a good point in requesting the delay - she and her attorneys have had an excessive, actually obscene, amount of time to get her story straight (a.k.a. one that actually fits the physical evidence - which makes the 5th version for those of you keeping score at home), and then they try to spring a kangaroo court on Winston with a 2-week window to pore over a thousand pages in documents.

There is nothing typical about this hearing - the fact that a retired FL Supreme Court Justice is presiding is unprecedented. This is nothing more than a CYA move by the university in the face of its Title IX investigation.

It ISN'T a court proceeding and it shouldn't be traeted by such. The school doing so only reinforces that it is ALL about fooitball and stalling tactics....... 8)
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #867 on: November 18, 2014, 09:05:34 am »

You really believe that, don't you?

Well, they did cover up for a murderer.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #868 on: November 18, 2014, 11:19:56 am »

Well, they did cover up for a murderer.

You're right.  FSU has a long ways to go. :)
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #869 on: November 18, 2014, 11:35:58 am »

LOL wrong Florida school my friend. That's how they do in Gainesville.

The whole group in Tallahassee is "All-In" with regards to anything Jameis. The young man is trouble looking for a place to happen.

Jimbo cringes everytime he hears the phone ring.......... 8)
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« Reply #870 on: November 18, 2014, 01:02:27 pm »

One more interesting point - both Casher and Darby have already had their hearing, and neither was even charged with being an accessory to assault or not preventing an assault. Darby was cleared and Casher got a year probation for filming the incident without approval. Now, why, if an assault had occurred, would neither of those 2 be charged with not helping to prevent an assault? The accuser could have gone that route had she chosen to, but for some reason neglected to do so. Why do you think that is?

Translation: IDGAF what Shameless Jameis did.  He has a chance to win two NC's, so I'm glad we can put it off until after the season. 
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« Reply #871 on: November 18, 2014, 01:11:59 pm »

Translation: IDGAF what Shameless Jameis did.  He has a chance to win two NC's, so I'm glad we can put it off until after the season. 

PorkHinds, Jameis is a great talent. Never seen a better finisher in college football in my life.
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« Reply #872 on: November 18, 2014, 02:30:05 pm »

Translation: IDGAF what Shameless Jameis did.  He has a chance to win two NC's, so I'm glad we can put it off until after the season. 

Umm, that's not even remotely close to what I said. Care to try again? This time try reading the post though.
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« Reply #873 on: November 18, 2014, 03:11:04 pm »

Umm, that's not even remotely close to what I said. Care to try again? This time try reading the post though.
Florida State seems hung over in the 1st half and then play like champions in the 2nd half. They know how to win and something should be said for that. I dont know Jameis does it. Seems like the off field pressure and on field pressure does not faze him. He doesn't worry about the pass rush and keeps his eyes down field. FSU is loaded and Winston is the best QB in college, hands down.They expect to lollygag around and beat everyone on their schedule.  If they get in a tight spot, they just wake up and turn it on.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #874 on: November 18, 2014, 03:26:03 pm »

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/18/questions-arise-over-jameis-winston-autograph-authentication/

Jameis may actually be innocent of the autograph signing allegations.The autographs weren't witnessed when signed. One Autograph specialist also says they were signed by two different hands.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #876 on: November 18, 2014, 08:19:02 pm »

Umm, that's not even remotely close to what I said. Care to try again? This time try reading the post though.

Many of your responses def seem to go along that thought process. But I guess if we had a raping, crab leg stealing, squirrel capping, point shaving athlete as a QB we may say the same things. 
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« Reply #877 on: November 19, 2014, 05:59:51 am »

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/18/questions-arise-over-jameis-winston-autograph-authentication/

Jameis may actually be innocent of the autograph signing allegations.The autographs weren't witnessed when signed. One Autograph specialist also says they were signed by two different hands.

Dude, I'm unemployed right now and would probably say it was fake too for a few grand up front and "royalties" in the future. You can't tell me the boosters down there ain't shelling out a few bucks to keep his butt playing. When there is money to be made, dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #878 on: November 19, 2014, 06:58:45 am »

LOL wrong Florida school my friend. That's how they do in Gainesville.

Dude, why are you here? (Seriously)

You aren't going to convince anybody here that Jameis is a good boy and just a victim....... 8)
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« Reply #879 on: November 19, 2014, 07:28:27 am »

Dude, why are you here? (Seriously)

Because I live here.
Because I joined a few years ago when FSU played Arkansas in the Supers in baseball.
Because Arkansas is my second favorite team.
Because I enjoyed reading about the Petrino train wreck.
Because people like you continue to ask.
Because you all discuss FSU more than you do most other SEC schools.

Take your pick.
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« Reply #880 on: November 19, 2014, 07:41:57 am »

Because I live here.
Because I joined a few years ago when FSU played Arkansas in the Supers in baseball.
Because Arkansas is my second favorite team.
Because I enjoyed reading about the Petrino train wreck.
Because people like you continue to ask.
Because you all discuss FSU more than you do most other SEC schools.

Take your pick.
We don't have anyone in the SEC, aside from maybe Auburn who is as dirty as FSU and I keep hoping when I see a thread about them it's because someone finally had enough b**** to put some of the thugs in jail. They have displaced Miami as "Thug U".
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« Reply #881 on: November 19, 2014, 08:52:14 am »

Umm, that's not even remotely close to what I said. Care to try again? This time try reading the post though.

Oh that may not be the words from your mouth, but we all know that's what you mean.  Jameis could slap your grandma and you'd be like "well, I mean my grandma could be lying for all we know. Her story has changed multiple times, so she may have actually WANTED him to punch her.  Even if he did that, why weren't the two witnesses charged for not helping my grandma after Jameis broke her jaw?  You ever think about that?"
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« Reply #882 on: November 19, 2014, 09:33:08 am »

Oh that may not be the words from your mouth, but we all know that's what you mean.  Jameis could slap your grandma and you'd be like "well, I mean my grandma could be lying for all we know. Her story has changed multiple times, so she may have actually WANTED him to punch her.  Even if he did that, why weren't the two witnesses charged for not helping my grandma after Jameis broke her jaw?  You ever think about that?"

WTH are you talking about?
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« Reply #883 on: November 19, 2014, 09:34:15 am »

We don't have anyone in the SEC, aside from maybe Auburn who is as dirty as FSU and I keep hoping when I see a thread about them it's because someone finally had enough b**** to put some of the thugs in jail. They have displaced Miami as "Thug U".

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« Reply #884 on: November 19, 2014, 09:54:19 am »

Florida State seems hung over in the 1st half and then play like champions in the 2nd half. They know how to win and something should be said for that. I dont know Jameis does it. Seems like the off field pressure and on field pressure does not faze him. He doesn't worry about the pass rush and keeps his eyes down field. FSU is loaded and Winston is the best QB in college, hands down.They expect to lollygag around and beat everyone on their schedule.  If they get in a tight spot, they just wake up and turn it on.

1.  They play fairly bad games against fairly bad opponents, and just out talent them in the end.

2.  It's pretty easy to get over the off-field pressure if you really don't care.
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« Reply #885 on: November 19, 2014, 09:54:44 am »


Just a small example of the stuff that goes on in Tallahassee Fla police dept and the FSU football players. There is a lot more if you google FSU football and the law.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/us/florida-state-football-casts-shadow-over-tallahassee-justice.html?_r=0
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« Reply #886 on: November 19, 2014, 10:40:38 am »

WTH are you talking about?

You.  And your willingness to defend Jamies no matter what he does. 
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« Reply #887 on: November 19, 2014, 11:44:43 am »

Oh that may not be the words from your mouth, but we all know that's what you mean.  Jameis could slap your grandma and you'd be like "well, I mean my grandma could be lying for all we know. Her story has changed multiple times, so she may have actually WANTED him to punch her.  Even if he did that, why weren't the two witnesses charged for not helping my grandma after Jameis broke her jaw?  You ever think about that?"

I spit coffee on my monitor....LOL!   :D
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« Reply #888 on: November 19, 2014, 03:38:13 pm »

You.  And your willingness to defend Jamies no matter what he does. 

I was talking about the nonsensical analogy, but yeah I do defend Jameis on the assault stuff.  Tell you what though, I may go ahead and respond point by point to said analogy with a few details you neglected to include.
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« Reply #889 on: November 19, 2014, 03:47:33 pm »

Oh that may not be the words from your mouth, but we all know that's what you mean.  Jameis could slap your grandma and you'd be like "well, I mean my grandma could be lying for all we know. Her story has changed multiple times,

Did she say she was drugged, only to have the tox screen come back negative?  After that, did she say she was hit over the head prior to the slap, only to have the evidence show no signs of head trauma?  Did she send a text to her friend prior to the slap, asking her if it was ok if she went over the to accused house to be slapped?  Or was she slapped earlier in the day by grandpa, and have her attorney attempt to say the marks on her face belonged to her friend?

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so she may have actually WANTED him to punch her.

Was she part of the twitter group #FSUFightClub, a la the cleat chaser group?

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Even if he did that, why weren't the two witnesses charged for not helping my grandma after Jameis broke her jaw?  You ever think about that?"

Grandma and her attorney could have sought charges of failure to prevent a crime, or creating a hostile environment, but instead she only sought charges of violation of privacy because the punch was filmed and she didn't want it be.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #890 on: November 19, 2014, 10:29:06 pm »

Did she say she was drugged, only to have the tox screen come back negative?  After that, did she say she was hit over the head prior to the slap, only to have the evidence show no signs of head trauma?  Did she send a text to her friend prior to the slap, asking her if it was ok if she went over the to accused house to be slapped?  Or was she slapped earlier in the day by grandpa, and have her attorney attempt to say the marks on her face belonged to her friend?

Was she part of the twitter group #FSUFightClub, a la the cleat chaser group?

Grandma and her attorney could have sought charges of failure to prevent a crime, or creating a hostile environment, but instead she only sought charges of violation of privacy because the punch was filmed and she didn't want it be.

You proved my point. Screw granny. Jameis throws good.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #891 on: November 19, 2014, 11:07:43 pm »

You proved my point. Screw granny. Jameis throws good.

A ridiculous analogy deserves a ridiculous response. The only point you made was that you are one of the sheep who slurps up what the NY Times, TMZ, and other drive-by 'reports' want you to know, without actually reading any official reports.

So, if that was your point, well done!
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #892 on: November 20, 2014, 06:51:44 am »

Because I live here. On an internet forum, that is meaningless.
Because I joined a few years ago when FSU played Arkansas in the Supers in baseball.That's a when, not a why.
Because Arkansas is my second favorite team.I have seen absolutely no indication of that in your posts.
Because I enjoyed reading about the Petrino train wreck.Old news. Are you on the Loiusville forums?
Because people like you continue to ask.That makes absolutely no sense at all,  but that makes you consistent anyways.
Because you all discuss FSU more than you do most other SEC schools.This is the only thread concerning FSU on page 1. Try again.

Take your pick.

You are here solely to defend FSU and crablegs Winston. Your mission is impossible...... 8)
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #893 on: November 20, 2014, 07:28:33 am »

My goodness. You're so butthurt about all this that you're gonna sit here and dispute the reasons I joined and participate on Hogville? Jesus dude, you really need to get out more.
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« Reply #894 on: November 20, 2014, 09:14:28 am »

My goodness. You're so butthurt about all this that you're gonna sit here and dispute the reasons I joined and participate on Hogville? Jesus dude, you really need to get out more.

"Shut up granny! I don't care if Jameis broke your face.  We could win back to back NC's!  The school will pay for your jaw to be re-set after the season.  Til then, it's soup through a straw for you, and free crab legs for the Noles football team!".
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #895 on: November 20, 2014, 09:28:18 am »

You think they'll postpone that hearing til Jameis is out of eligibility?
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #896 on: November 20, 2014, 10:56:02 am »

"Shut up granny! I don't care if Jameis broke your face.  We could win back to back NC's!  The school will pay for your jaw to be re-set after the season.  Til then, it's soup through a straw for you, and free crab legs for the Noles football team!".

LOL.  So mad...
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #897 on: November 20, 2014, 11:08:53 am »

LOL.  So mad...

Mad?  Nah.  Just entertained by your continual excuses.  You can't stop yourself.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #898 on: November 20, 2014, 11:46:17 am »

Mad?  Nah.  Just entertained by your continual excuses.  You can't stop yourself.

Looks like you misspelled 'facts'.  It happens.  I know what you meant though so it's all good.
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