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FSU QB Jameis Winston
« on: December 04, 2013, 08:42:37 pm »

Findings in Sexual-assault investigation will be released Thursday at 1:00 pm central (2:00 ET).
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 08:44:28 pm »

Via press conference. 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 08:54:42 pm »

Sounds like no charges will be filed.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 08:58:51 pm »

I'd be shocked if there were charges.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2013, 09:06:26 pm »

Vegas still has it up so I would say he plays Saturday.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2013, 09:07:41 pm »

Vegas still has it up so I would say he plays Saturday.

The most reliable source available.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2013, 09:13:26 pm »

I'd be shocked if there were charges.

It's all a cover up.

          - tOSU fan
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2013, 09:17:24 pm »

It's all a cover up.

          - tOSU fan


Ohio State fan is the expert on coverups.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 12:17:47 am »

Sportscenter has canceled Ron Burgundy hosting tomorrow's episode because of "breaking news".

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 4h
Ron Burgundy's SportsCenter appearance Thursday has been canceled in light of breaking news out of Florida State regarding Jameis Winston.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 12:36:10 am »

Seriously bummed about this!  He's kind of a big deal. Go F*** yourself ESPN!

I was looking forward to the ron burgondy sportscenter!!! 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 01:33:38 am »

If Winston is charged, more than a year after the assault and report, it's a gross miscarriage of justice.

If Winston is not charged, after suffering through a false allegation for more than a year, it's a gross miscarriage of justice.

The absolute incompetence and indifference in this case is astounding.  If you've followed this story, you realize that the police tried to make it go away from the very beginning and their behavior has been unprofessional and unethical, if not criminal, since the beginning.

If the evidence was there to charge him, it should have been done and if the evidence was not there, he should have been cleared as a suspect.  Without an anonymous tip and the story-driven media, there still would not be an investigation.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2013, 02:01:51 am »

I fail to see how this is anyone's business except Jameis, his lawyer, and the police/courts. The guy needs his privacy.

Just sayin'
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2013, 04:39:00 am »

I fail to see how this is anyone's business except Jameis, his lawyer, and the police/courts. The guy needs his privacy.

Just sayin'

I think maybe the victim (if it's not Winston who is the victim) might be interested to know a little something about the proceedings and the public in Tallahassee might want a little transparency on the complete failure of the police in this matter as well.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2013, 07:32:10 am »

Ive lived in Tallahasse for over 20 years and neither the TPD nor the State Prosecutor are FSU athlete friendly.  (Think Peter Warrick or Sebastian Janikowski) I'm not saying there wasn't a cover- up but, if there was, it would be out of character for that group. 
« Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 08:02:28 am by ghostzapper »
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2013, 07:45:11 am »

As you get older, you will learn that the police and Justice department can pretty much do as they please and are immune to the word of law.  Sending one area of law enforcement to investigate another part of law enforcement is like sending a wolf to investigate the possible killing of a baby lamb by another wolf.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2013, 08:01:27 am »

No doubt, they can abuse the law.  But, the suggestion is being made that there's a cover-up to protect the program or (at the time), a relatively unknown baseball player who was also on the football team.  All of those allegations are coming from the family.  Not saying they are not true or shouldn't be investigated, but am saying the department and the prosecutor don't have that history.  If anything, it's the opposite.

This isn't any kind of authority on anything, and may just be somebody making up stuff on the internet because he can, but it's a suggested version of events and difficulties in the case for the prosecutor that came out before Thanksgiving:

http://www.terezowens.com/heres-what-allegedly-happened-in-the-jameis-winston-sex-scandal/
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2013, 08:03:34 am »

Porn saved my life.  True story. 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2013, 10:05:10 am »

Ive lived in Tallahasse for over 20 years and neither the TPD nor the State Prosecutor are FSU athlete friendly.  (Think Peter Warrick or Sebastian Janikowski) I'm not saying there wasn't a cover- up but, if there was, it would be out of character for that group. 
  BRAVO !!!!!! So sick of all these idiots that keep saying its a cover up,TPD and MEGGS are not friends w/ the program. In fact SA (Meggs)has said in the past that he hold athletes to a higher standard.. As a former grad of FSU I saw numerous arrests w/ the football program during the Bowden yrs.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2013, 10:14:22 am »

I have no opinion as to guilt or innocence, I'm hoping the issue will be resolved with fairness for all involved.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2013, 10:26:22 am »

I just want Florida State to beat either Ohio State or Auburn or Missouri or Alabama (whichever one they get), or the last chance of any enjoyment in this college football season will be lost and 2013 will go down as my least favorite season ever.  Not that I'm a Florida State fan, but because I don't hate them like I hate the other 4 teams.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2013, 12:50:32 pm »

No charges according to ESPN.com
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2013, 01:01:30 pm »

So now that we know it was consensual, do we have the name of the chick? I would like to see if she was hot enough to go through this mess.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2013, 01:02:24 pm »

So now that we know it was consensual, do we have the name of the chick? I would like to see if she was hot enough to go through this mess.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2013, 01:07:20 pm »

No charges and the "victim" had 2 or 3 semen samples in her underwear..........wow............
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2013, 01:14:45 pm »

The terezowens link has pictures of the accuser and his girlfriend. 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2013, 01:18:19 pm »

No, we don't know that. We know the prosecutor doesn't think he's got enough evidence to win a court case. There's a difference.



This
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2013, 01:19:49 pm »

No charges and the "victim" had 2 or 3 semen samples in her underware..........wow............

Maybe she just needs to wash her clothes more often.. Nothing to see here...move along.  ;)
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2013, 01:22:46 pm »

This press conference is not an endorsement of Mr. Winston's character.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2013, 01:23:17 pm »

This
That's 2300 words less than your next smallest post. 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2013, 01:24:21 pm »

That's 2300 words less than your next smallest post. 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2013, 01:25:04 pm »

Nor that of Meggs or the members of the media who were laughing at various points. My gosh, you don't crack up at a press conference about an alleged rape.
Agreed.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2013, 01:26:23 pm »

After all this time and lengthy investigation, if he'd been guilty, they'd have found it.

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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2013, 01:27:10 pm »

As you get older, you will learn that the police and Justice department can pretty much do as they please and are immune to the word of law.  Sending one area of law enforcement to investigate another part of law enforcement is like sending a wolf to investigate the possible killing of a baby lamb by another wolf.
This is a false and irresponsible comment.  The police and the prosecutor are NOT immune from the "word of law" as you call it.   Law enforcement officials do not have absolute immunity and can be subject to both civil and criminal sanctions for improper conduct.  Need I remind you to what happened to the prosecutor who falsely accused the students in the Duke lacrosse case?  As for the U.S. Department of Justice (which I assume you are referring to in your "Justice department" comment), they are a federal agency and this was an investigation of whether there was a violation of a state statute(s).  There could potentially be a federal investigation if there are allegations of state, county, or municipal law enforcement improprieties that would trigger federal offenses or civil rights violations, then USDOJ and the FBI might get involved.  Otherwise, this is a state issue.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2013, 01:27:22 pm »

Nor that of Meggs or the members of the media who were laughing at various points. My gosh, you don't crack up at a press conference about an alleged rape.

What the hell were they laughing at? 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2013, 01:31:29 pm »

underware..........wow............

Wow on two different levels ...

What just happened today is the announcement of the Heisman winner. The ceremony they have later in NY will just be a coronation.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2013, 01:36:48 pm »

anyone in the  universe think the outcome would be any different?

can almost guarantee this kid gets the heisman, wins the NC, and 3  years from now FSU will be hit  mega hard with sanctions. Follow the script!
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2013, 01:39:31 pm »

What the hell were they laughing at? 

Lot's a things. It's pretty clear that there was not any evidence that a crime took place. The charges could not have been made because of memory lapse from the accuser. She had her boyfriends DNA on her shorts and Winston's DNA on her panties.  Then there may have been a 3rd DNA on her cloths as well. If she was assaulted could it have been done by the 3rd person???? You can't charge Winston.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2013, 01:50:29 pm »

Lot's a things. It's pretty clear that there was not any evidence that a crime took place. The charges could not have been made because of memory lapse from the accuser. She had her boyfriends DNA on her shorts and Winston's DNA on her panties.  Then there may have been a 3rd DNA on her cloths as well. If she was assaulted could it have been done by the 3rd person???? You can't charge Winston.

the  moral to this story is  wash - yo- draws!
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2013, 01:50:40 pm »

Lot's a things. It's pretty clear that there was not any evidence that a crime took place. The charges could not have been made because of memory lapse from the accuser. She had her boyfriends DNA on her shorts and Winston's DNA on her panties.  Then there may have been a 3rd DNA on her cloths as well. If she was assaulted could it have been done by the 3rd person???? You can't charge Winston.

So basically they thought this chick was a liar. Sounds like it probably happened the way the article linked earlier said.  Hence the demeanor of the prosecutor.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2013, 01:55:36 pm »

Less than 6 percent of rape allegations are false.
Based on what? 
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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2013, 01:56:19 pm »

Less than 6 percent of rape allegations are false. Don't confuse "not enough evidence to take the case to court" with "She was lying and Winston did nothing wrong."

I'm not confusing it.  And I certainly didn't see the presser, but if this guy was making jokes, either he's a complete ass or this chick is bat shi.. crazy like the article earlier suggested.  Just making a guess. I don't know anything....
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2013, 02:05:43 pm »

No charges and the "victim" had 2 or 3 semen samples in her underware..........wow............
2 or 3 semen samples, how many people raped her that night?

She's starting to sound like some girls I used to hang out with, if ya know what I mean!
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2013, 02:08:08 pm »

I'm not confusing it.  And I certainly didn't see the presser, but if this guy was making jokes, either he's a complete ass or this chick is bat shi.. crazy like the article earlier suggested.  Just making a guess. I don't know anything....

It wasn't exactly a "joke-fest". But some of the questions being asked were ridiculous.
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« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2013, 02:20:10 pm »

It's not a static statistic.  It's not possible to measure.  As mentioned earlier, porn saved my life. 
*cliff notes*
Friend and I decided to make a porn with a chick.  I stole the tape as I was leaving.  THREE DAYS later she said we raped her.  We go to county lock up and was already told we were serving 10-20 because of "her word against yours".  Bring porn tape in and she STILL swore we raped her.  She even changed her story 3 times.  After prosecuting attorney made her watch the tape with her entire family, she then comes clean. 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2013, 02:23:09 pm »

So basically they thought this chick was a liar. Sounds like it probably happened the way the article linked earlier said.  Hence the demeanor of the prosecutor.

The prosecutor also stated that the accuser didn't want to name her boyfriend. She didn't want to pursue the case and it looks like someone was pushing her to do so. I don't want to assume anything about the accuser or Winston. But it appears both of them made poor choices that night. 
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2013, 02:28:06 pm »

But it appears both of them made poor choices that night. 
It appears to me they f#(ked, and that's it.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2013, 02:31:04 pm »

It appears to me they f#(ked, and that's it.

Yep!
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2013, 02:58:01 pm »

Sounds like both women need help.  The one chick was banging him trying to get him to leave his girlfriend.  The girlfriend finds out he is banging this chick whenever she's away and stays with him.  Sad.
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2013, 03:02:55 pm »

Somebody asked Winston's attorney if the accuser or her family "had any affiliation with the University of Alabama."

Roll Conspiracy Theory Tide

Interesting question. McCarron 4 Heisman, perhaps?
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Re: FSU QB Jameis Winston
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2013, 03:08:58 pm »

No charges and the "victim" had 2 or 3 semen samples in her underware..........wow............

Joy. Trying not to picture that.
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