Hoop Hogs Picked 8th at SEC Media Day

[The_Iceman]

Right now. It's hard to tell how good or how bad Alabama might be. Same with Ole Miss. Both have one elite scoring guard, but not much else that's proven after that.

[Swinesong1]

I think there are clear tiers:

1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. Tennessee

4. LSU
5. Missouri
6. Alabama
7. Ole Miss
8. Arkansas

9. Texas A&M
10. Vanderbilt

11. Georgia
12. South Carolina
13. Mississippi State
14. Auburn

We're in Tier II.

Here's roughly how the schedule should shake out:

Tier I (1-3)
1. Kentucky (H, R)
2. Florida (H)
3. Tennessee (R)

Tier II (4-3)
4. LSU (H, R)
5. Missouri (H, R)
6. Alabama (H, R)
7. Ole Miss (H)
8. Arkansas

Tier III (1-1)
9. Texas A&M (R)
10. Vanderbilt (R)

Tier IV (5-0)
11. Georgia (H, R)
12. South Carolina (H)
13. Mississippi State (R)
14. Auburn (H)

No excuse to lose to a Tier IV team. The schedule gods hate us again, because we only get a double against one team ranked 9-14. We need a road win against against a Tier III team (both are road games). If we can win all the home/lose all the road against Tier II then I'm happy. If we can pull one home upset (both UK and Fla visit Fayetteville) I'll also be happy.

That's an 11-7 conference record. If we go 11-2 in OOC, then we're 22-9. Win a couple in the SECT, and we're dancing or close to it at 24-10.

Very good breakdown.  Just not sold on Ole Miss though. I think the absence of Buckner and Holloway will be huge!  Now this Diaz dude is reported to be the 2nd coming of Dirk if you read some reports but he's not a banger and shot blocker like those two were.  They erased a lot of defensive issues with Ole Miss.  They're tier III to me. 

[DeltaBoy]

I enjoyed MA media day interview

[The_Bionic_Pig]

You guy's recall this?

[HawgAdvocate]

You guy's recall this?

Considering all of the close finishes we had (good & bad), we were one loss away from  being tied for that 6th-8th tie/spot. A lot of parity in the middle of the SEC this past season.

[mbgrulz]

Considering all of the close finishes we had (good & bad), we were one loss away from  being tied for that 6th-8th tie/spot. A lot of parity in the middle of the SEC this past season.

We also could have won at Mizzou and finished off UF at home we would have been in 3rd place.

[seasonhog]

We better prove them wrong.  Our football team sucks.  I want to see some success some where.  This is basketball and our conference isn't the toughest like it is in football.  If we finish 8th then I will have to question Anderson's ability to get it done here.   And I am a huge Anderson fan.  I expect to be in the NCAA tournament this year.  If not then it was a failed season in my opinion.

We will be better then 8th.........this team has some talent...

[HawgAdvocate]

We also could have won at Mizzou and finished off UF at home we would have been in 3rd place.

We also could have won every single game we played and won another daggum national championship.

[forrest city joe]

We also could have won every single game we played and won another daggum national championship.

Just shows what a good coach Mike Anderson is. pick 8th and finished 4th. so the team did a lot better than people thought they would. which pisses you off.Mike Anderson is here to stay. so get use to it.

[mbgrulz]

We also could have won every single game we played and won another daggum national championship.

Yea, and then you'd be all...

[mbgrulz]

We also could have won every single game we played and won another daggum national championship.

Winning all our games is a long ways from me suggesting that Harris put UF away by hitting a FT with :18 seconds left...We had them down for the count...Or that if Mizzou doesn't hit a game winner on us.

Its as much or more reasonable to think about us winning those games vs. us losing some of the close ones we won.

[Breems]

We also could've lost every game.

[Hawg Red]

Gonna be hard for us to out-do our pre-season ranking next season. We're probably no worse than the #4 team and likely the #3 team. I think we're picked 3rd. Gonna be a lot of pressure this time around instead of a chip on the shoulder.

[HawgAdvocate]

Winning all our games is a long ways from me suggesting that Harris put UF away by hitting a FT with :18 seconds left...We had them down for the count...Or that if Mizzou doesn't hit a game winner on us.

Its as much or more reasonable to think about us winning those games vs. us losing some of the close ones we won.

Winning two (3rd) is more reasonable than losing one (6th-8th)? Interesting. But hey, you took it there. Face it mgbrulz...

[Breems]

Say something positive. I dare you.

[HawgAdvocate]

Yea, and then you'd be all...

LOL, yeah, who wants to see the Hogs win another NC? Not this guy.

[HawgAdvocate]

Say something positive. I dare you.

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=551209.msg8515244#msg8515244

This one was pretty positive, from page one of this thread. Never give up your dreams.

[mbgrulz]

What happened to all that "I'm gonna be scarce" talk HA?

[Arazorbackguy1]

Somebody helped that bear!

[rzrbackramsfan]

Winning two (3rd) is more reasonable than losing one (6th-8th)? Interesting. But hey, you took it there. Face it mgbrulz...

Well there were two we easily could've won.  Name one we barely won but could have lost.  Vandy? Nah, they cans back on us yes, but we were in control.  Georgia at Georgia is a third I think we could have easily won and would have with next years team.

Which if you don't know my opinion on how our team is going to be next year, I think we're going to be really dang good and come 1st ir 2nd in the sec.

[HouseOfHam]

What happened to all that "I'm gonna be scarce" talk HA?

He was when the hogs went on their win streak toward the middle of February thru early March or so.

[latrops]

Gonna be hard for us to out-do our pre-season ranking next season. We're probably no worse than the #4 team and likely the #3 team. I think we're picked 3rd. Gonna be a lot of pressure this time around instead of a chip on the shoulder.

Unless they like losing and not making the NCAAT, the "pressure" should be irrelevant.  Yes, more is expected, but they should expect more from themselves.  Pressure shouldn't be an issue unless too much is expected from fans/admin/experts.  Simply making the NCAAT (and being competitive once in) isn't too much to expect by any stretch.  Our coach, now entering his 4th season with the program, has a solid NCAAT history prior to his return to Arkansas.  We return most of the meaningful contributors from a team that won 22 and was only one or two wins out of the NCAAT this year.  Failing to make the NCAAT next year would be a huge disappointment. 

[Breems]

He was when the hogs went on their win streak toward the middle of February thru early March or so.

Indeed. Poor neutral court performance for him this year.

[HawgAdvocate]

What happened to all that "I'm gonna be scarce" talk HA?

I've been pretty scarce...rarely post more than a day or two a week. You asked to derail the thread when you made your hypocritical response regarding more favorable outcomes. It is what it is.

[HawgAdvocate]

Well there were two we easily could've won.  Name one we barely won but could have lost. 

[HawgAdvocate]

He was when the hogs went on their win streak toward the middle of February thru early March or so.

Indeed. Poor neutral court performance for him this year.

I get a kick out of the 'only post when we win/lose' story line that a few of you truly believe in. It's easily one of the more ridiculous things to read on Jump Ball, and seriously, some of you come up with some facepalm-worthy posts nearly every day.

And HouseofHam...you only registered your handle on March 25th...yet you claim to be following me around in February...dare I greet Jamie90210/hambone's new handle? LOL that's pretty sad man.

[Hawg Red]

Unless they like losing and not making the NCAAT, the "pressure" should be irrelevant.  Yes, more is expected, but they should expect more from themselves.  Pressure shouldn't be an issue unless too much is expected from fans/admin/experts.  Simply making the NCAAT (and being competitive once in) isn't too much to expect by any stretch.  Our coach, now entering his 4th season with the program, has a solid NCAAT history prior to his return to Arkansas.  We return most of the meaningful contributors from a team that won 22 and was only one or two wins out of the NCAAT this year.  Failing to make the NCAAT next year would be a huge disappointment.

Pressure is irrelevant.

Hmm. How about that?

Learn something new everyday.

[azhog10]

Missing that shot and no dunk would have taken us to a second OT. It wouldn't have lost us the game. Going into OT2 Randle, A. Harrison and Poythress both had 4 fouls. The only guys with four for us was Gulley (who had played only 24 minutes and if I recall wasn't even in the game at the time) and Kiko (pretty sure that wouldn't have broke us if he picked up #5). So if you want to talk about safe assumptions, its safe to say a 2nd OT would have put us in a better position then UK. Now the South Carolina game you have a better argument. Of course that can easily be countere with the UF game or the game at Mizzou, and some could argue the UGA game in Athens as well. So there were quite a few close losses that we missed easy buckets or free throws to lose the game vs. games we just barely won.

[Letsroll1200]

How did the game at Kentucky turn out? 

[The_Iceman]

I'm sure every team could nit-pick their schedule and come out with drastically different results.

[Hawg Red]

I'm sure every team could nit-pick their schedule and come out with drastically different results.

Correct.

All that we can take away from last season is that we definitely took another step in the right direction and we were competitive in the vast majority of our games -- whether we won handily, won comfortably, barely won or barely lost. There were only a few truly bad performances and that was refreshing.

[forrest city joe]

I get a kick out of the 'only post when we win/lose' story line that a few of you truly believe in. It's easily one of the more ridiculous things to read on Jump Ball, and seriously, some of you come up with some facepalm-worthy posts nearly every day.

And HouseofHam...you only registered your handle on March 25th...yet you claim to be following me around in February...dare I greet Jamie90210/hambone's new handle? LOL that's pretty sad man.

You don't get a kick out of it. it pisses you off and people expose you for who you are. and who you are is a Pel lover that can't get over the fact that he got fired here. and you hope Mike Anderson fails and get's fired. when the Hogs were on that streak and won 8 out of 9 games.i did not see much of you on here. but when we lost 3 of our final 4 games. you showed up again. why was i not shocked?

[Atlhogfan1]

You guy's recall this?

Do you recall this?

2011-12 SEC Media Prediction:
Hogs 6th Actual Finish 9th

2012-13 SEC Media Prediction:
Hogs 5th Actual Finish 7th

Just shows what a good coach Mike Anderson is. pick 8th and finished 4th. so the team did a lot better than people thought they would. which pisses you off.Mike Anderson is here to stay. so get use to it.

What was he the previous two seasons when the Hogs finished lower than predicted?




Media polls for basketball are irrelevant.  Just entertainment and something to give the media and talking heads to talk about in the offseason. 

[mbgrulz]

I've been pretty scarce...rarely post more than a day or two a week. You asked to derail the thread when you made your hypocritical response regarding more favorable outcomes. It is what it is.

You were the one who brought up the whole "what could have been" argument. I simply gave it a more positive spin, and God knows got you fired up.

Also, your definition of scarce and mine are different...
April 21 - 5 posts
April 22 - 8 posts
Today - 3 posts already

You've taken a grand total of 7 days off in the last month...but I'm sure you won't read or respond to this seeing as how little you're on here now...

[HouseOfHam]

And HouseofHam...you only registered your handle on March 25th...yet you claim to be following me around in February...dare I greet Jamie90210/hambone's new handle? LOL that's pretty sad man.

You don't have to register to read this board. I have been lurking for a few years.

[Breems]

I get a kick out of the 'only post when we win/lose' story line that a few of you truly believe in. It's easily one of the more ridiculous things to read on Jump Ball, and seriously, some of you come up with some facepalm-worthy posts nearly every day.

You did disappear, even after the rest period.

[The_Iceman]

You don't have to register to read this board. I have been lurking for a few years.

Guess he didn't know that.

[alaback]

You were the one who brought up the whole "what could have been" argument. I simply gave it a more positive spin, and God knows got you fired up.

Also, your definition of scarce and mine are different...
April 21 - 5 posts
April 22 - 8 posts
Today - 3 posts already

You've taken a grand total of 7 days off in the last month...but I'm sure you won't read or respond to this seeing as how little you're on here now...

You should take a closer look.  HA did become scarce after he said he would.  Didn't even offer a single comment after the UK road win.  That is until March 10th, he suddenly became a volume poster and then the few days after the loss to S. Carolina, he really got busy. 

Then a little quiet, posting a little before the ISU win and pretty much no comment on that game afterwards.  Then the volume posting returned with a vengeance in the few days after the Cal loss.  The last serious post volume was February 13th which happened to coincide with the loss at Mizzou.  The break occured after the LSU win.  The agenda is quite obvious.

[CDBHawg]

Considering all of the close finishes we had (good & bad), we were one loss away from  being tied for that 6th-8th tie/spot. A lot of parity in the middle of the SEC this past season.

If I find a million dollars, I'll be a millionaire.

[CDBHawg]

Do you recall this?

2011-12 SEC Media Prediction:
Hogs 6th Actual Finish 9th

2012-13 SEC Media Prediction:
Hogs 5th Actual Finish 7th

What was he the previous two seasons when the Hogs finished lower than predicted?




Media polls for basketball are irrelevant.  Just entertainment and something to give the media and talking heads to talk about in the offseason.

9th
7th
4th

What was he? Not the question.

What is he? A good coach.

[nextlevel]

You should take a closer look.  HA did become scare after he said he would.  Didn't even offer a single comment after the UK road win.  That is until March 10th, he suddenly became a volume poster and then the few days after the loss to S. Carolina, he really got busy. 

Then a little quiet, posting a little before the ISU win and pretty much no comment on that game afterwards.  Then the volume posting returned with a vengeance in the few days after the Cal loss.  The last serious post volume was February 13th which happened to coincide with the loss at Mizzou.  The break occured after the LSU win.  The agenda is quite obvious.

I wouldn't put that much thought into it, he was volume posting this time of year a few years ago about being patient, all Pel needed was time, 14-18 was improvement over 14-16, the program was headed in the right direction, etc.

[alaback]

I wouldn't put that much thought into it, he was volume posting this time of year a few years ago about being patient, all Pel needed was time, 14-18 was improvement over 14-16, the program was headed in the right direction, etc.

Yes, see the irony on full display below...

Almost every person on here who is wanting Pel to be able to coach his 2011 kids for at least one season has kept their posts in the proper context outside of the mudslinging that has come with misguided, totally unrelated personal attacks from those who obviously aren't happy with this team making a postive move towards postseason play.

Even when we win, we still see an abundance of threads/posts from the same old voices doing their damnedest to keep the negative air flowing. It's sickening that the fanbase has to constantly deal with this, especially at a time when the team needs our home crowd support most.

[Swinesong1]

Yes, see the irony on full display below...

Well played alaback!  Well played!

[latrops]

You guys really need to let it go that HA thought Pel should get another year.  Pel's teams did improve marginally over the last couple of years and a reasonable case could be made.  I was certainly in favor of keeping Pel another year over hiring another unproven up and comer.  CMA, though, had a track record of achieving a higher level of success and I was happy with the move. 

HA may not be a big CMA fan, but if that is the case, his criticism barely registers compared to much of what is on this board.  FWIW, if CMA doesn't get this team into the NCAAT next season, his 4 years here will not be much better than what Pel did, while Pel arguably had a tougher job given what he inherited .  I've seen a little progress, but next season is big.  CMA needs to get this team over the hump.  In any case, I believe it is OK to think the last coach deserved one more year AND also support the current coach.  I like Pel, I like CMA.  To this point, neither did a good enough job.

Expectations are justifiably higher for CMA. 

[Breems]

You guys really need to let it go that HA thought Pel should get another year.  Pel's teams did improve marginally over the last couple of years and a reasonable case could be made.  I was certainly in favor of keeping Pel another year over hiring another unproven up and comer.  CMA, though, had a track record of achieving a higher level of success and I was happy with the move. 

HA may not be a big CMA fan, but if that is the case, his criticism barely registers compared to much of what is on this board.  FWIW, if CMA doesn't get this team into the NCAAT next season, his 4 years here will not be much better than what Pel did, while Pel arguably had a tougher job given what he inherited .  I've seen a little progress, but next season is big.  CMA needs to get this team over the hump.  In any case, I believe it is OK to think the last coach deserved one more year AND also support the current coach.  I like Pel, I like CMA.  To this point, neither did a good enough job.

Expectations are justifiably higher for CMA. 

Few people care that he thought Pel should get another year. Many shared that opinion.

It's his constant stream of negativity and disappearance earlier this year that allows us to go to war with him. His (message board) agenda is no more concealed under "realism" than FCJ's is.

I'm happiest on Hogville when those who try to constantly spite me with juvenile nonsense eat a plate full of crow. Tastes good doesn't it?

He is here solely to wage war against those who opposed his support of Pelphrey. The forces against him will continue to grow in number, and I'll continue to spearhead the attack.

[HawgAdvocate]

You were the one who brought up the whole "what could have been" argument. I simply gave it a more positive spin, and God knows got you fired up.

Also, your definition of scarce and mine are different...
April 21 - 5 posts
April 22 - 8 posts
Today - 3 posts already

You've taken a grand total of 7 days off in the last month...but I'm sure you won't read or respond to this seeing as how little you're on here now...

The topic was that we were predicted to finish 8th...and I posted that we were one game away from finishing 8th. Not sure how you can't make that connection. ..wait a minute, yes I am.

LOL...I'm glad you pay that much attention to how often I post. A few posts a day is a far cry from what I used to do. Then again, I don't really have to defend myself from any of post counting nimrods on here.

[HawgAdvocate]

Few people care that he thought Pel should get another year. Many shared that opinion.

It's his constant stream of negativity and disappearance earlier this year that allows us to go to war with him. His (message board) agenda is no more concealed under "realism" than FCJ's is.

He is here solely to wage war against those who opposed his support of Pelphrey. The forces against him will continue to grow in number, and I'll continue to spearhead the attack.

This is both funny and sad at the same time. Poor Breems, content to spend his days trolling, eager for the appreciation of others. I remember a prior time when Breems once thought he was being clever:

I quote HA because I agree with his analysis . I quote several other people on this board. Breems, you even admit to jerking HA's chain as you have done on this board and others. Is it the Memphis board you used to go on and stir the pot? I know that must be fun for you. HA just brings more facts to this board than most. His knowledge and analysis is normally what I consider the best here. We have gained some good posters ,and most of the reprobates have vacated. However, there is a contingency that tries to start arguments with HA by coming up with some of the stupidest retorts and then start calling people names when they can't win an untenable point. HA does not need my help taking up for himself, but suffice it to say that there are people on this board that appreciate his contribution. It is just that I am used to being around men on oilrigs..... not junior high school students. We talk things out instead of whining like little girls and calling people names. There are some young posters on here that present fabulous info. However, there are some that are immature and don't seem to be getting any smarter. If you will notice, there are many young people on here that I quote. You failed to mention that ,but I guess it didn't meet your agenda to stir up some crap and put people down. Those I have quoted know to whom I have respected their opinion and given credit. If I quote someone , they get a +1 to recognize good info that I agree with. I really thought that was the purpose for the pluses and minuses. The vast majority of the people I respect have more minuses than pluses. Perhaps they're not well liked.

Pretty good summation of league the 'junior high posts' I see above mine.

[mbgrulz]

Then again, I don't really have to defend myself from any of post counting nimrods on here.

[HawgAdvocate]

How many will I post today MBG? I hope you can count beyond your five fingers on each hand.

LOL - another reason why I don't post as much anymore...this place is for children. Good day.

[HognotinMemphis]

We will be better then 8th.........this team has some talent...

lol. Wake up, son. This is last year.