Advice on a 45

[LSUFan]

I want one where I can lock the slide back and slap the magazine in w/o the slide engaging and chambering a round until I release the slide.

I also want a stainless

What makers offer this?

What advantages do the 40 offer over the 45?

[95_alum]

Are you wanting a 1911 or a striker fired bi-tone?

40 = snappy
45 = a push (& a bigger hole).

[DeltaBoy]

Smith & Wesson makes them in SS

[Frankycottonrow]

Colt.

[PharmacistHog]

Colt.

Good luck finding one.  I can't locate one right now. 

[LSUFan]

Are you wanting a 1911 or a striker fired bi-tone?

40 = snappy
45 = a push (& a bigger hole).

I prefer a sig, but a bi-tone would be preferred over the 1911.

[Pudgepork]

.40 advantages would be less recoil and 14-15 rounds in the mag  vs 10 on a .45

.45 offers a big ole hole for a bad guy to stare into when you pull it on him

[rickm1976]

.40 advantages would be less recoil and 14-15 rounds in the mag  vs 10 on a .45

.45 offers a big ole hole for a bad guy to stare into when you pull it on him

I don't know about the recoil.  I've shot both in the same size S&W M&P's, and the .40 had a snappier recoil with more muzzle flip.  The .45 was more of a slow push.

[LSUFan]

I don't know about the recoil.  I've shot both in the same size S&W M&P's, and the .40 had a snappier recoil with more muzzle flip.  The .45 was more of a slow push.

Thats what the guy told me today, more recoil from the 40

I decided on a Ruger SR45

[DeltaBoy]

The Ruger is a solid gun.

[LSUFan]

The Ruger is a solid gun.

I have a Ruger M77, I think is the model, in a 260 cal, stainless with a black syn stock, helluva gun. Basically a 308 necked down into a 223 cartridge. Deadly accurate.

[kodiakisland]

I have a Ruger M77, I think is the model, in a 260 cal, stainless with a black syn stock, helluva gun. Basically a 308 necked down into a 223 cartridge. Deadly accurate.

I think you mean a 308 necked down to .264.

[LSUFan]

I think you mean a 308 necked down to .264.

I was told it was a 223 cartridge, they could be wrong though.

Delivers a helluva punch, I've never had to track a deer with that gun.

My Uncle shot it and said, "Smoooooth like a good whiskey"

Shoots like a 22.

[kodiakisland]

You were told wrong then.  The 260 uses a .264 bullet.  The same bullet the various 6.5mms use.  I do agree the 260 is a great round.

[DOGALUM]

You were told wrong then.  The 260 uses a .264 bullet.  The same bullet the various 6.5mms use.  I do agree the 260 is a great round.

There was quite a lot of buzz about the 260 in the early to mid 90s.  Lots of manufacturers not only chambered it, but pushed it as the "perfect deer round". 

[Hawgon]

You were told wrong then.  The 260 uses a .264 bullet.  The same bullet the various 6.5mms use.  I do agree the 260 is a great round.

Yeah, but it has little charm.  Why shoot the 260 when you can shoot the original 6.5? 

[kodiakisland]

If you're not a reloader the 260 is the way to go, otherwise yeah, the 6.5X55 is pretty sweet. 

[Hawgon]

If you're not a reloader the 260 is the way to go, otherwise yeah, the 6.5X55 is pretty sweet. 

If you're not a reloader, I'm not sure either is a good option.  I can't really remember the last time I saw any 260 shells on the shelf.  In fact, the other day our Academy had 6.5x55 but no 260.

[DOGALUM]

I'm not a 260 fan.   Nothing against it in particular......just that when it comes to ballistics, there are other rounds that are better than it is at everything.   It's ok......but just ok.   

[LSUFan]

You were told wrong then.  The 260 uses a .264 bullet.  The same bullet the various 6.5mms use.  I do agree the 260 is a great round.

Dumb question, Can you shoot the 6.5s in a 260?

I like the gun b/c the kids can shoot it fairly easily.

[Hawgon]

Dumb question, Can you shoot the 6.5s in a 260?

I like the gun b/c the kids can shoot it fairly easily.

The bullet is a 6.5 caliber and so the bullet in a 260 and 6.5x55 or a 6.5x64 or a few other cartridges is the same bullet.  However, no, you may not shoot anything but a 260 Remington in your rifle.

It is like a 30-06 and a .308 Winchester.  They both shoot .308 bullets but the case size is different and neither will properly chamber in the other. 

A 6.5x55 just flat won't fit in a 260 chamber but a 260 might chamber in a 6.5x55 but the headspace is all wrong.  If you fired it, the case might rupture and that can be bad.  At the very least it wouldn't be accurate, the velocity would be way down, and you would end up with some oddly shaped brass.

[LSUFan]

The bullet is a 6.5 caliber and so the bullet in a 260 and 6.5x55 or a 6.5x64 or a few other cartridges is the same bullet.  However, no, you may not shoot anything but a 260 Remington in your rifle.

It is like a 30-06 and a .308 Winchester.  They both shoot .308 bullets but the case size is different and neither will properly chamber in the other. 

A 6.5x55 just flat won't fit in a 260 chamber but a 260 might chamber in a 6.5x55 but the headspace is all wrong.  If you fired it, the case might rupture and that can be bad.  At the very least it wouldn't be accurate, the velocity would be way down, and you would end up with some oddly shaped brass.

Thanks, I learned something today! +1

[kodiakisland]

To add to your knowledge base about the 260, it uses the same case as the 308, which came from the 7.62X51 NATO.

The 308 case has been used as the base for many cartridges in many calibers.  The 243, 260, 7mm-08, 338 federal, and 358 are all made by either necking the 308 case up or down.  There are even more wildcat versions that have never been made into commercial rounds.  My favorite is the .25-308 (.25 souper).

[LSUFan]

I bet that .25-308 is a screamer!

[Hawgon]

I bet that .25-308 is a screamer!

Eh...it's no .257 Roberts.

[DOGALUM]

Eh...it's no .257 Roberts.

meh.....257's no 25-06.   

[devildoghawg]

Glock 21 SF is a great 45.  Im also a huge fan of the Sig p220.  I would stay away from the Smith and Wesson Sigma that someone brought up, yeah they come in bitone, but they are also hunks of crap.  XDM is a pretty good set up as well.  My 45 of choice is a Sig 1911 C3.  Its probably the best looking commander size 1911 ive ever seen.  Its lightweight, has sig lite trigger pack, night sights, and a built in crimson trace laser grip.  Its a sweet peace.

[DOGALUM]

Ballistically, the .40 is much flatter shooting than the .45.  I don't shoot in competitions but I still prefer the .40. 

If you want a "best of the best" 1911....get a Les Baer Custom.   You won't find a tighter, better put together 1911.    They aren't cheap....but man...are they put together well.

[OTTER]

Ballistically, the .40 is much flatter shooting than the .45.  I don't shoot in competitions but I still prefer the .40. 

If you want a "best of the best" 1911....get a Les Baer Custom.   You won't find a tighter, better put together 1911.    They aren't cheap....but man...are they put together well.

I shot a Les Baer 1911 for the first time last week.  One heck of a pistol.  I wish I could afford one right now, I'd buy it!  But, I'm a po man!!!

[kodiakisland]

Eh...it's no .257 Roberts.

In a short action with some of the newer, longer bullets it's a bit better than the Roberts. 
Of course it's no 250 savage either but it doesn't keep me from using them all.

[DOGALUM]

In a short action with some of the newer, longer bullets it's a bit better than the Roberts. 
Of course it's no 250 savage either but it doesn't keep me from using them all.

I have an old Model 99 in the 250 Savage.   Says 250-3000 on the gun.  The 250 Savage was the first commercial round to achieve 3000+ fps. 

I stumbled on this gun a few years ago.  An old gentleman that worked with my dad passed away.  His widow contacted my dad about purchasing her late husband's "gun collection".  He had the Model 99, an old JC Higgins pump twelve ga., an old .38 revolver in a beautiful leather holster, and a fairly new Ruger 10-22 with the green laminated wood stock and stainless barrel. 

I love the 250.  Love the rotating number on the side that shows how many rounds are in the gun.   He gave me the Savage and the shotgun.  He likes to plink with the 10-22.  No scope on the Savage.   My 11 year old son hunts with it when we go out.   

[kodiakisland]

The 250 savage is one of my favorite cartridges.  My ruger RSI in 250 is my go to whitetail gun these days.  I don't know what my next gun purchase will be, but a cooper in 250 savage is high on the list.