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Things falling in place for ASU
« on: March 10, 2013, 09:45:35 pm »

Middle Tenn. St. Falls in Sun Belt semi's...ASU playing WKY for birth in finals.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2013, 09:48:04 pm »

We did not need Middle Tennessee State to lose.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2013, 09:49:39 pm »

We did not need Middle Tennessee State to lose.

Our only chance at the NCAA is winning the SEC Tourney.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2013, 09:51:09 pm »

Our only chance at the NCAA is winning the SEC Tourney.

I'm not talking about the NCAA's. I'm talking about NIT seeding. The more upsets there are, the more regular season conference champs get good seeds in the NIT.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2013, 09:52:00 pm »

I'm not talking about the NCAA's. I'm talking about NIT seeding. The more upsets there are, the more regular season conference champs get good seeds in the NIT.

I gotcha..

WKU by 5 with 4:20 left in the first half
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2013, 10:07:17 pm »

WKU leads ASU 28-26 at half.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2013, 11:06:46 pm »

Middle Tenn has no good wins. We will get a better seed than them.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2013, 11:10:14 pm »

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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2013, 11:11:03 pm »

56-55 ASU under minute left
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2013, 11:12:59 pm »

57-56 WKU 13 secs to go
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2013, 11:16:07 pm »

58-56 WKU ... final.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2013, 11:14:57 pm »

That was one painful game to watch, and an even more painful final minute.  If Florida International plays tomorrow like they did tonight, they win big.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2013, 11:16:38 pm »

ASU gave that game away at the end. Just an awful way to finish a game.
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Re: Things were falling in place for ASU
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2013, 11:20:21 pm »

Subject corrected
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2013, 11:39:10 pm »

Middle Tennessee did something this year we couldn't...beat Ole Miss.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2013, 04:22:46 am »

Middle Tennessee did something this year we couldn't...beat Ole Miss.
Aw well good for them!
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2013, 08:33:26 am »

Middle Tenn has no good wins. We will get a better seed than them.
Possibly, but they did beat Ole Miss  and have a RPI of 28. At 28-5 and a RPI of 28, I bet the selection committee gives them a 1 or 2 seed in the NIT. Who knows, the NCAAT may select them afterall. There are always a few teams that everyone says won't get in since they lost in their conference tournament, and then they steal a bid.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2013, 09:25:57 am »

Possibly, but they did beat Ole Miss  and have a RPI of 28. At 28-5 and a RPI of 28, I bet the selection committee gives them a 1 or 2 seed in the NIT. Who knows, the NCAAT may select them afterall. There are always a few teams that everyone says won't get in since they lost in their conference tournament, and then they steal a bid.

How important are ticket sales to the NIT?
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 09:28:45 am »

How important are ticket sales to the NIT?
Well, the NIT says they no longer factor attendance into the seeding. Before, teams would bid for it and get it based on who the NIT felt would draw the biggest crowds. Now it is strictly based on performance, supposedly. I believe the NIT is actually ran by the NCAA now, so they do it similar to the NCAA selection. However, as we say every year, they are a business and want to make money. If it comes down to two or three teams fighting over a 1 seed, they will probably give it to the team who will bring in more money.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2013, 09:31:58 am »

Look for ASU to be playing us in the NIT at BWA.  For all you NIT hopefuls, what happens if ASU beats us?  I don't like the NIT and don't want any part of the NIT.  It's not a positive step for us to be in the NIT.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2013, 09:35:25 am »

Look for ASU to be playing us in the NIT at BWA.  For all you NIT hopefuls, what happens if ASU beats us?  I don't like the NIT and don't want any part of the NIT.  It's not a positive step for us to be in the NIT.
siiigh.....

Considering we are 18-1 at home this year, I highly doubt ASU will hang with us in BWA. It is also extremely idiotic to say the NIT is not a positive step for us when we have been without postseason for 5 season. Any postseason is a step in the right direction.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2013, 09:51:11 am »

siiigh.....

Considering we are 18-1 at home this year, I highly doubt ASU will hang with us in BWA. It is also extremely idiotic to say the NIT is not a positive step for us when we have been without postseason for 5 season. Any postseason is a step in the right direction.
Will it be positive to be in the NIT even if we lose to ASU?
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2013, 09:55:22 am »

Will it be positive to be in the NIT even if we lose to ASU?
I am not even considering losing to ASU. We are 18-1 at home, 9-0 in the SEC. We aren't going to lose at home to a team who has 11 losses to sub 100 RPI teams, with 8 being on the road(4 to sub 200 RPI teams).  It won't happen. It is extra practice, and extra games for a team without seniors, and a team who has never played a game after the first game of the SECT. You cannot honestly suggest it is better to sit at home after the SECT and do nothing over going to a post season tournament and getting more experience.


You act as if it is a lock to play them, too. I don't think it is.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2013, 09:55:34 am »

Will it be positive to be in the NIT even if we lose to ASU?

I'm sure you would be happy and find it a very positive outcome...
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2013, 09:59:18 am »

Arkansas State has no chance to make the NIT.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2013, 10:01:03 am »

Look for ASU to be playing us in the NIT at BWA.  For all you NIT hopefuls, what happens if ASU beats us?  I don't like the NIT and don't want any part of the NIT.  It's not a positive step for us to be in the NIT.

Scared, huh?  What, the thought of an in-state game bother you?  I find that absolutely hilarious.  The mighty Razorbacks afraid of little ole ASU ? 

You've been beating this anti-NIT drum for awhile now - but the alternative is take your ball and go home.  Guess you are looking for an exit to crawl through and go hide.

Will it be positive to be in the NIT even if we lose to ASU?

lol you definitely scared.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2013, 10:01:34 am »

Arkansas State has no chance to make the NIT.

correct.

but it doesn't stop some people from being scared from the thought. 
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2013, 01:14:04 pm »

ASU gave that game away at the end. Just an awful way to finish a game.

Vomit worthy.  Can't win when you miss eleven free throws and have 18 turnovers, most of them unforced and just stupid.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2013, 01:18:06 pm »

Vomit worthy.  Can't win when you miss eleven free throws and have 18 turnovers, most of them unforced and just stupid.

I hated the last shot attempt as well. They could've gotten a much better look than they did.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2013, 01:32:24 pm »

I hated the last shot attempt as well. They could've gotten a much better look than they did.

No doubt.  I didn't get why Brady didn't call timeout to actually set up a play.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2013, 01:32:46 pm »

I've wanted an instate game for as long as I can remember.  I think the NIT is about the only chance of that happening. 

If I recall correctly in the last 80s or early 90s we had a chance to play UALR in the 2nd round of the NCAA but they lost to Louisville, we did too.  Anybody verify that?
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2013, 01:44:44 pm »

No doubt.  I didn't get why Brady didn't call timeout to actually set up a play.

See, you answered your own question in the question
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2013, 01:52:08 pm »

Quote from: Music City Razorback link=topic=534263.msg8100826#msg8100826 date=
I don't like the NIT and don't want any part of the NIT.  It's not a positive step for us to be in the NIT.
yes it is. Whether the hogs win or lose even their first game, it's a positive step. Just because you "don't like it" does not make it a negative. This program has been mediocre to poor for awhile now, postseason play is better than none at all and can help build for the next season.

& dog, worrying about asu? C'mon man, time for some depends?
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2013, 02:04:07 pm »

Look for ASU to be playing us in the NIT at BWA.  For all you NIT hopefuls, what happens if ASU beats us?  I don't like the NIT and don't want any part of the NIT.  It's not a positive step for us to be in the NIT.
ASU won't beat us in BWA IF both make the NIT. We need to beat Vandy to be a lock and I don't think ASU will make the NIT. 
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2013, 02:08:38 pm »

I've wanted an instate game for as long as I can remember.  I think the NIT is about the only chance of that happening. 

If I recall correctly in the last 80s or early 90s we had a chance to play UALR in the 2nd round of the NCAA but they lost to Louisville, we did too.  Anybody verify that?

It was in 1989.
13th seed UALR lost to #4 seed Louisville 76-71 in the first Round. The Hogs (#5 seed) beat Loyola-Marymount (#12) 120-101 in a "track meet".Arkansas lost in the 2nd Rd. to Louisville 93-84. It was played in Indianapolis. I remember Lee Mayberry saying that he was so exhausted/dehydrated after the Loyola game, he had to wait in the dressing room for a couple of hours after the game, just to be able to give a Miss specimen to the NCAA drug-testers.
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2013, 02:12:15 pm »

It was in 1989.
13th seed UALR lost to #4 seed Louisville 76-71 in the first Round. The Hogs (#5 seed) beat Loyola-Marymount (#12) 120-101 in a "track meet".Arkansas lost in the 2nd Rd. to Louisville 93-84. It was played in Indianapolis. I remember Lee Mayberry saying that he was so exhausted/dehydrated after the Loyola game, he had to wait in the dressing room for a couple of hours after the game, just to be able to give a Miss specimen to the NCAA drug-testers.

Thanks!  I remember the Loyola game.  We watched it in my 3rd grade classroom.  It was exciting.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2013, 02:13:38 pm »

Thanks!  I remember the Loyola game.  We watched it in my 3rd grade classroom.  It was exciting.

3rd grade?...Wow...you just made me feel really old. HA!
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2013, 03:05:25 pm »

3rd grade?...Wow...you just made me feel really old. HA!

haha...

I'm now getting to the age where younger hog fans make ME feel old too...
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2013, 06:16:13 pm »

3rd grade?...Wow...you just made me feel really old. HA!
Im a few years older than you, but oh the memories of watching the hogs in the dance at school.  It was a staple of the times.
haha...

I'm now getting to the age where younger hog fans make ME feel old too...
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2013, 06:52:30 pm »

Will it be positive to be in the NIT even if we lose to ASU?
Why are you so scared?
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2013, 08:30:25 pm »

Why are you so scared?
ASU won't be in the NIT.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2013, 08:37:19 pm »

ASU won't be in the NIT.
Tell him that, not me. I'm not the one who is scared of an NIT bid because I think we are going to lose to ASU.

I think that an NIT bid would be a step in the right direction and would be very beneficial for our rebuilding process.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2013, 09:01:13 pm »

Tell him that, not me. I'm not the one who is scared of an NIT bid because I think we are going to lose to ASU.

I think that an NIT bid would be a step in the right direction and would be very beneficial for our rebuilding process.
I'm not scared of an NIT bid.  I'm sad that so many people on this board accept an NIT bid as progress.  Progress is not in the NIT.  Progress is getting to the Big Dance as a 11 or 12 seed.  Then progress from there to a 4 or 5 seed.  Then up from there.  I feel sorry for those who accept such mediocrity as the NIT.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2013, 09:11:06 pm »

I'm not scared of an NIT bid.  I'm sad that so many people on this board accept an NIT bid as progress.  Progress is not in the NIT.  Progress is getting to the Big Dance as a 11 or 12 seed.  Then progress from there to a 4 or 5 seed.  Then up from there.  I feel sorry for those who accept such mediocrity as the NIT.
Maybe your progressometer, or whatever you use to measure progress, is broken.  It's been five years, man.  FIVE YEARS.  We need postseason play.  We need it now.  Who knows, why might win the damn thing.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2013, 09:23:06 pm »

I'm not scared of an NIT bid.  I'm sad that so many people on this board accept an NIT bid as progress.  Progress is not in the NIT.  Progress is getting to the Big Dance as a 11 or 12 seed.  Then progress from there to a 4 or 5 seed.  Then up from there.  I feel sorry for those who accept such mediocrity as the NIT.

I feel sorry for people who are dense and miserable enough to believe this.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2013, 11:37:55 pm »

I'm not scared of an NIT bid.  I'm sad that so many people on this board accept an NIT bid as progress.  Progress is not in the NIT.  Progress is getting to the Big Dance as a 11 or 12 seed.  Then progress from there to a 4 or 5 seed.  Then up from there.  I feel sorry for those who accept such mediocrity as the NIT.

What did Mike do to you bro?
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2013, 12:25:58 am »

I'm not scared of an NIT bid.  I'm sad that so many people on this board accept an NIT bid as progress.  Progress is not in the NIT.  Progress is getting to the Big Dance as a 11 or 12 seed.  Then progress from there to a 4 or 5 seed.  Then up from there.  I feel sorry for those who accept such mediocrity as the NIT.
How is it not progress? If we go from four consecutive seasons of no postseason play to the NIT, that's progress. Something is better than nothing.

No one here looks at the NIT as a great honor or the end goal--it's simply a step in the right direction.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2013, 06:48:07 am »

How is it not progress? If we go from four consecutive seasons of no postseason play to the NIT, that's progress. Something is better than nothing.

No one here looks at the NIT as a great honor or the end goal--it's simply a step in the right direction.
Because the NIT (Not In Tournament) sucks and is not postseason play.  It's exhibition play is its anything.  A step in the right direction is getting to the NCAA Tournament, nothing else.
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2013, 06:55:52 am »

Because the NIT (Not In Tournament) sucks and is not postseason play.  It's exhibition play is its anything.  A step in the right direction is getting to the NCAA Tournament, nothing else.

The more games Qualls, Kikko, madden, bell, Clarke, wade, scott, and wagner can play the better!  You must be thinking the liberty bowl in 2009 was a waste of time!  You need post season play as a program.  It gives you longer practice time with your team and more competition that you will not normally play, let's not even get into the exposure part, even if it is the NIT.  It is still name recognition. 
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Re: Things falling in place for ASU
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2013, 07:37:19 am »

The more games Qualls, Kikko, madden, bell, Clarke, wade, scott, and wagner can play the better!  You must be thinking the liberty bowl in 2009 was a waste of time!  You need post season play as a program.  It gives you longer practice time with your team and more competition that you will not normally play, let's not even get into the exposure part, even if it is the NIT.  It is still name recognition.
Liberty Bowl is recognized.  NIT is NOT like the Liberty Bowl, but more like the North/South game.  The only reason the NIT is recognized by many is the years its been around.  It meant something long ago when 16 teams made the NCAA Tournament, but not now when 68 teams reach the field. 
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