Harris News?.?.?

[Pork Twain]

Could not find a thread about this ANYWHERE. 

Any news?

[azhog10]

Ahh I called it. I took the under on the Vegas line for Tuesday!!

[The_Iceman]

I looked everywhere and couldn't find a thread either. I searched the whole first stickied thread and didn't see it anywhere. I also when to the search option and clicked in Harris and found nothing except threads on the arrest of that former football player.

I can't believe there are no threads on here about Harris.

[Breems]

What about Alandise?

[mhuff]

What about Alandise?

Sure wish someone would tell us he has been cleared instead of holding back info.

[ErieHog]

Ahh I called it. I took the under on the Vegas line for Tuesday!!

How much of a cut are you giving him on this one?

Heh.   Still.  Good to see there's at least a little good humor around our basketball program again.

[PonderinHog]

When will he enroll?

[The_Bionic_Pig]

When will he enroll?

He's already enrolled and on scholarship, it's whether he is immediately eligible that is being considered by the NCAA. 

[JonClaudeVanHam]

How many stars does he have?

[OnTheHillHogFan]

What's his height,weight,position...Go Hogs...Beat Ole Miss!!!!

[JonClaudeVanHam]

He's already enrolled and on scholarship, it's whether he is immediately eligible that is being considered by the NCAA.

Source?

[TRUHOG718]

Here You go.  All the Harris news one could ask for! 

http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=harris+news&qpvt=harris+news&FORM=HDRSC6

[hogfanvsnebraska]

Wont know till November

[Foshodo]

i'm glad we get all these threads... it lets the ncaa know how serious we are and should weigh heavy on their hearts when they decide...

i say we hit a 5 per day minimum till the decision is made

[Ham Sandwhich]

What's his height,weight,position...Go Hogs...Beat Ole Miss!!!!

Really?

He's probably the 2nd or 3rd most talented player on the roster. He's 6'7.

[mhuff]

Here You go.  All the Harris news one could ask for! 

http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=harris+news&qpvt=harris+news&FORM=HDRSC6

Wow thanks..... I read all night. I didn't realize how little I knew about Harris.

[snf6278]

Really?

He's probably the 2nd or 3rd most talented player on the roster. He's 6'7.

I'm going to assume he was being sarcastic.

[Sharkansas]

Well, I just Alandise Harris, and he asked me if there was any latest late-breaking  new news on his eligibility.

[beasley]

I have not heard anything about harris. But the Alandise kid is trying to transfer from somewhere to Arkansas. supposed to be a good point guard.

[gohogs13]

There are a few tweets out there now, stating Mike Anderson stating that he will not be eligible this year.  These tweets are coming from several Arkansas Media.  Take it for what it's worth.

[azhog10]

This has been confirmed. Believe Coach Anderson announced at a function last night or evening some time. Expected it to be announced before November hit.

[sunalmighty79]

http:// [[[Stop spamming your site, Eric.]]] .com/blog/robbies-hog-blog/harris-denied-immediate-eligibility-ncaa.html at least we have him for 2 years, with next years class. Plus there isn't so much of a log jam

[razorpimp]

This is some kind of BS!!!!  The stupid a$$ NCAA should have to explain the differences between this case and others....

[HawgAdvocate]

This is some kind of BS!!!!  The stupid a$$ NCAA should have to explain the differences between this case and others....

It's pretty easy to understand if you look at it objectively. It's been discussed on here quite often, and while many don't like it, it is what it is.

Harris still has two years to go, and a year practicing with the team in this new system (for him) will make him that much better for when he's finally allowed to suit up.

[azhog10]

This is some kind of BS!!!!  The stupid a$$ NCAA should have to explain the differences between this case and others....

He should've got a girl pregnant in the fayeteville area. No doubt he would've been able to play then.

Being an unresponsible teenager/college student (and him trying to be a parent isn't what i'm talking about) gets you certain advantages in the NCAA's eyes.

[HawgAdvocate]

He should've got a girl pregnant in the fayeteville area. No doubt he would've been able to play then.

Being an unresponsible teenager/college student (and him trying to be a parent isn't what i'm talking about) gets you certain advantages in the NCAA's eyes.

The bitterness is so thick for some of you.

Planned, unplanned, mistake, accident...who gives a damn? He has a responsibility now, and he's gone home to take care of it. Having a child is a financial hardship. It qualifies as a just reason.

The NCAA doesn't act as the morality police. Get over it.

[azhog10]

The bitterness is so thick for some of you.

Planned, unplanned, mistake, accident...who gives a damn? He has a responsibility now, and he's gone home to take care of it. Having a child is a financial hardship. It qualifies as a just reason.

The NCAA doesn't act as the morality police. Get over it.

Take a chill pill damn. Basketball would still be there just like it will be for Harris if he were to sit out a year. Just seems the rule would be easier to implicate if it were an automatic year no matter what unless you graduated early. A lot easier to stick to a rule instead of having people decide one way or the other. You may have no beef with a guy knocking a girl up and then transferring and not having to sit out and some may. Everyone is allowed to have their opinion and no matter what Harris will still play next year and I imagine he's gonna be busting his butt regardless.

[HawgAdvocate]

Take a chill pill damn. Basketball would still be there just like it will be for Harris if he were to sit out a year. Just seems the rule would be easier to implicate if it were an automatic year no matter what unless you graduated early. A lot easier to stick to a rule instead of having people decide one way or the other. You may have no beef with a guy knocking a girl up and then transferring and not having to sit out and some may. Everyone is allowed to have their opinion and no matter what Harris will still play next year and I imagine he's gonna be busting his butt regardless.

At the end of the day, the NCAA has established the reasons why they will allow a transfer waiver. Those reasons are known to be "an injury, illness and/or financial hardship of an immediate family member or legal guardian."

Like it or not, being a parent to a newborn child can be proven to be a financial hardship. Perhaps some of all of the members on NCAA panel that rule on these waivers feel as you and others do that "knocking a girl up" and "getting certain advantages" for it sucks....but the rules have been set and they do comply with Abron's situation.

No need to tell me to "chill." I've been one of the few level-headed people to post on this topic. The rules are clear.

[ErieHog]

At the end of the day, the NCAA has established the reasons why they will allow a transfer waiver. Those reasons are known to be "an injury, illness and/or financial hardship of an immediate family member or legal guardian."

Like it or not, being a parent to a newborn child can be proven to be a financial hardship. Perhaps some of all of the members on NCAA panel that rule on these waivers feel as you and others do that "knocking a girl up" and "getting certain advantages" for it sucks....but the rules have been set and they do comply with Abron's situation.

No need to tell me to "chill." I've been one of the few level-headed people to post on this topic. The rules are clear.

You know how it goes, though;  it's arbitrary and capricious when it works against you, and good fortune when it works for you.

[azhog10]

At the end of the day, the NCAA has established the reasons why they will allow a transfer waiver. Those reasons are known to be "an injury, illness and/or financial hardship of an immediate family member or legal guardian."

Like it or not, being a parent to a newborn child can be proven to be a financial hardship. Perhaps some of all of the members on NCAA panel that rule on these waivers feel as you and others do that "knocking a girl up" and "getting certain advantages" for it sucks....but the rules have been set and they do comply with Abron's situation.

No need to tell me to "chill." I've been one of the few level-headed people to post on this topic. The rules are clear.

The rules are clear as mud and there's plenty of cases that go against the "rules". Ziegler had non of these happen and he got his waiver. Trust me I'm not arguing that Harris should have gotten a waiver. I felt bad for the kid, but had he transferred maybe a year earlier he had a better shot. But even still, not transferring to UALR meant he would have a hard case regardless. But the Trey Ziegler case blows my mind. I understand all the circumstances that happened up there at Central and no matter what, it's been obvious committing to a coach and him getting fired was no excuse for an automatic waiver. Just seems the process would be easier for all parties involved if they got rid of the automatic waiver.

But that's not the case and thank God this wasn't three years ago where we would have had to heavily rely on a situation like this.

[HawgAdvocate]

But the Trey Ziegler case blows my mind. I understand all the circumstances that happened up there at Central and no matter what, it's been obvious committing to a coach and him getting fired was no excuse for an automatic waiver.

Ziegler's case was granted due to historical precedent. There is a loophole in the NCAA rulebook that states if your father is the coach of your team and he gets fired, another school can apply for a waiver and the player may be eligible immediately.

A baseball player from USC set the precedent in 2010 after his father was fired and he got permission to play immediately at Miami.

[SWD26]

It's pretty easy to understand if you look at it objectively. It's been discussed on here quite often, and while many don't like it, it is what it is.

Harris still has two years to go, and a year practicing with the team in this new system (for him) will make him that much better for when he's finally allowed to suit up.

True, as much as I'd like to have seen him play this year, him having to wait may pay big dividends in the future. We're looking at a really good "front-line" recruiting class for next year!

[Pork Twain]

I looked everywhere and couldn't find a thread either. I searched the whole first stickied thread and didn't see it anywhere. I also when to the search option and clicked in Harris and found nothing except threads on the arrest of that former football player.

I can't believe there are no threads on here about Harris.

I did the same.  I just don't understand what is going on...

/sarcasm

[azhog10]

Ziegler's case was granted due to historical precedent. There is a loophole in the NCAA rulebook that states if your father is the coach of your team and he gets fired, another school can apply for a waiver and the player may be eligible immediately.

A baseball player from USC set the precedent in 2010 after his father was fired and he got permission to play immediately at Miami.

Got a link, or page number to this "loop hole"?

And don't reference the case about the baseball player who back in 2011 did the same thing. I just want to know where in the rule book where it defines the medical hardship to a family member does it also talk about your parent getting fired and you are allowed to transfer to another school automatically?

[HawgAdvocate]

Got a link, or page number to this "loop hole"?

And don't reference the case about the baseball player who back in 2011 did the same thing. I just want to know where in the rule book where it defines the medical hardship to a family member does it also talk about your parent getting fired and you are allowed to transfer to another school automatically?

I don't really care to hold your hand with this stuff any more than I have to.

There's not a specific section in the rule book that says it's an allowed exception.  Hence why I called it a "loophole." Historical precedent acted as the loophole that allowed Ziegler to win his appeal as it's a discretionary decision on the NCAA's part as they look at each transfer situation on a case by case basis.

Twice now it's been applied for under this circumstance, and twice now it's been accepted.

I don't make the rules. I'm just here to share them with those who can't come to grips with reality.

The hardship waiver traditionally has benefited athletes who transfer because of financial hardship, injury or illness to themselves or a member of their family, but historical precedent suggests Zeigler has a better chance than some may think.
Infielder Cade Kreuter transferred from USC to Miami after the Trojans fired his father Chad following the 2010 baseball season. A Miami spokesman confirmed the school applied for a waiver for Cade on those grounds and it was granted, enabling him to contribute right away in 2011 rather than sitting out a full year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger-college-basketball-blog/historical-precedent-suggests-trey-zeigler-may-play-away-203818196.html

NCAA rules state an athlete must sit out one full year if he or she transfers from one division one school to another. There is a loophole in the NCAA rules, however, that will most likely allow Kreuter to play this year. If your father is the coach of your team and gets fired, another school can apply for a waiver and the player may be eligible immediately.

http://www.themiamihurricane.com/2010/10/20/first-pitch-is-thrown-as-fall-ball-begins/

[71832]

Not that I'm an expert or have any special info but as a person looking at this I would probably consider Arkansas expressed a desire for Abron to move on Houston did not really want to let Harris go. One case was not the kids fault, one was, hardship is just a vehicle in most cases.

[azhog10]

I don't really care to hold your hand with this stuff any more than I have to.

There's not a specific section in the rule book that says it's an allowed exception.  Hence why I called it a "loophole." Historical precedent acted as the loophole that allowed Ziegler to win his appeal as it's a discretionary decision on the NCAA's part as they look at each transfer situation on a case by case basis.

Twice now it's been applied for under this circumstance, and twice now it's been accepted.

I don't make the rules. I'm just here to share them with those who can't come to grips with reality.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger-college-basketball-blog/historical-precedent-suggests-trey-zeigler-may-play-away-203818196.html

http://www.themiamihurricane.com/2010/10/20/first-pitch-is-thrown-as-fall-ball-begins/

So you cite an article saying the same thing as you but still not showing me where this so called "loop hole" exists in the rule book. There's plenty of loop holes out there, but my friend they are still written down somewhere. Just like the loop holes many or some of us use during tax season. They are written down in the tax code and it's up to us to find them. Since you couldn't find said loop hole I will go ahead and venture to say you can't find it. Not sure why you want to hold my hand, i'd prefer you not. Not sure how you get off on that but none the less I digress.

I just asked for a link to the rule book stating how they rule on coaches son's after their dad gets canned. Since you link me to yahoo, or another website involving the hurricanes I will take it that you don't have one and this loop hole is nothing more than an assumption made by yourself. Good day.

[azhog10]

Not that I'm an expert or have any special info but as a person looking at this I would probably consider Arkansas expressed a desire for Abron to move on Houston did not really want to let Harris go. One case was not the kids fault, one was, hardship is just a vehicle in most cases.

Who would you say is at fault?

[HawgAdvocate]

So you cite an article saying the same thing as you but still not showing me where this so called "loop hole" exists in the rule book. There's plenty of loop holes out there, but my friend they are still written down somewhere. Just like the loop holes many or some of us use during tax season. They are written down in the tax code and it's up to us to find them. Since you couldn't find said loop hole I will go ahead and venture to say you can't find it. Not sure why you want to hold my hand, i'd prefer you not. Not sure how you get off on that but none the less I digress.

I just asked for a link to the rule book stating how they rule on coaches son's after their dad gets canned. Since you link me to yahoo, or another website involving the hurricanes I will take it that you don't have one and this loop hole is nothing more than an assumption made by yourself. Good day.