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Dr Carl aka Shorthog

Quote from: Ham Ham Pigelow on October 03, 2012, 07:15:44 pm
I think he is just simply stating that WVU won BCS bowls because of they were in the Big East.
But that is not really fair. They had to play a good team from an other conference to win. Not only that, it is beside the point. They still were there and got the W and the money and popularity.

Qui Gon Jinn

Quote from: John Quincy Poodle on October 03, 2012, 06:48:51 pm
Completely doubt this is true, and even if Jeff had discussed the opening with him I doubt an offer was made to turn down. I call BS
^^^ This.  This story is just someone stirring the pot.  I say BS.
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phadedhawg

Quote from: Iwastherein1969 on October 03, 2012, 07:16:33 pm
one dimensional thinking....how very evolved you must be

They might have an easier road to the BCS but they don't get easier BCS bowls. 

We had a "tough" road to a BCS game and we lost ours.  A person would have to be crazy to think Arkansas is a better job than West Virginia. 

Dr Carl aka Shorthog

Quote from: Iwastherein1969 on October 03, 2012, 07:16:33 pm
one dimensional thinking....how very evolved you must be

Evolved, sure. It is not one dimensional. It is realism and just understanding the bottom line. no one gives a crap if you are the #5 team in the country if you are 3rd in your division and in the Cotton Bowl. The pay out and coverage is the same if  you were # 25 and 3rd in the division. What matters is if you are in the BCS. We were not. They were.

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: ThrillaHog on October 03, 2012, 06:32:33 pm
I was listening to the Shawn & Wally show and a few moments ago Wally Hall said that Sports Illustrated was reporting that Dana Holgerson was offered the Arkansas job and turned it down.

I went on Sports Illustrated and this is all I could find. It does state that Arkansas reportedly offered Holgerson but he turned down the Job.

http://razorbackers.com/2012/10/03/head-coaching-rumors-continue-to-swirl-at-arkansas/

These are quotes from the article


If Wally got fed that information out of Fayetteville I would almost guarantee that it was a smoke screen that was carefully leaked by the someone in the BAC to throw everyone off the true trail. This is Long's M.O. and everyone should know that by now.

I don't believe it ever happened.
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Hogtimes

Quote from: IllinoisRazorbackFan on October 03, 2012, 06:49:35 pm
How are we higher?  They've won a multiple BCS bowls; how many have we won?  The amount of homers on this site is sickening.

Yeah I think most of us are homers...it reallydoesn't mean anything

Dr Carl aka Shorthog

I think this rumor is a pile of crap. I don't say that out of blind love for  my team. I say it because it just makes no sense. As far as the job, Arkansas is a good job. Is it as good as WV? I don't know. If you look at it objectively, Arkansas has a lot of advantages. However, WV is not exactly chopped liver and they are in a better position to win big right now than we are. So, it depends on what you are looking for as a coach. A rebuild where you can win with great facilities and the best conference? Or do you want a easier road to the BCS and about equal recruiting issues?

HognitiveDissonance

Quote from: ThrillaHog on October 03, 2012, 06:32:33 pm
I was listening to the Shawn & Wally show and a few moments ago Wally Hall said that Sports Illustrated was reporting that Dana Holgerson was offered the Arkansas job and turned it down.

I went on Sports Illustrated and this is all I could find. It does state that Arkansas reportedly offered Holgerson but he turned down the Job.

http://razorbackers.com/2012/10/03/head-coaching-rumors-continue-to-swirl-at-arkansas/

These are quotes from the article

I get that SI e-newsletter three times a week. There's a reason that little feature is called Rumors. It's not factual reporting. It's really not much different from what you might read on Hogville.
It definitely wouldn't be accurate to say 'Sports Illustrated is reporting...'.

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Hoggish1

Quote from: dynastyhog on October 03, 2012, 06:35:54 pm



In all seriousness if Jeff offered Dana the job at this point he nneds to be scrutinized.  If we were going to go after someone currently coaching we would have done it in April.

By scrutinized you surely mean fired, right?

jmb1973

I cant bel;ieve there are two pages of responses to something Wally Hall said. He is an idiot.

El Puerco

Don't believe for a second he was offered the job.  Jeff knows he had drinks in a casino

 

HawgPound

It looks like the abuse if the search is starting early for any coach seeking a raise or just to see there name on ESPN for a day or two.

The_Iceman

This is just dumb people. Are you really believing this?

Why would Jeff Long offer a coach in the middle of the season? This report is bogus.

popcornhog

Quote from: ThrillaHog on October 03, 2012, 06:32:33 pm
I was listening to the Shawn & Wally show and a few moments ago Wally Hall said that Sports Illustrated was reporting that Dana Holgerson was offered the Arkansas job and turned it down.

I went on Sports Illustrated and this is all I could find. It does state that Arkansas reportedly offered Holgerson but he turned down the Job.

http://razorbackers.com/2012/10/03/head-coaching-rumors-continue-to-swirl-at-arkansas/

These are quotes from the article

If Jeff Long really is making actual offers to current coaches during the middle of the season, he needs to be fired now. Nobody's gonna accept mid season -- that would sink their current season.

Insane.
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Chief Mac

Quote from: big john on October 03, 2012, 06:47:03 pm
long likes the guys from the north i dont no any good coach,s from the north .

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Ironhawg

Isn't Long known to float rumors to gauge fan reaction?  This smells like something like that.

HoggyCat

What did you expect? Him to say, MIDSEASON, that he's leaving his top ten ranking? How big of adistraction would that be??

LOL  All you can do is laugh at some people.
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Bubba's Bruisers

Quote from: Ironhawg on October 03, 2012, 08:04:13 pm
Isn't Long known to float rumors to gauge fan reaction?  This smells like something like that.

Or he could just read message boards.
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$outhwesthog

Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on October 03, 2012, 06:48:38 pm
Wally has been peddling Butch for weeks now.  He is either so far up Butch's ass or is a mouthpiece for the UofA or both.

Wally is a clown..similar to john l smith. You can lead a horse to the trough but can't make it eat. His agenda is not that of the razorback nation but one of his own.
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Smokehouse

Quote from: GoHogzzGo on October 03, 2012, 06:45:37 pm
If Jeff did offer, good, glad he tried. Like many of us have said Jeff needs to try the homerun hires first.

Most of us already assumed Hologorsen wouldn't come. We aren't a lateral move, but we aren't that much higher, and he just got to WVU.

Probably smoke anyway.

If Jeff offered any coach currently employed in the NCAA a job in October then it certainly wasn't "good," that would be moronic.

But I seriously doubt there's any validity to a job offer. Some phone calls between Jeff and DH's agent would be the M.O.
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Quote from: deshahawgWho in their right mind would take this job now? The ship is sinking!

Although going 1-11 is going to be crappy for us, it's going to be the ideal situation for the next coach. Aside from the couple of years he would get to rebuild anyway, almost anything the next guy provides will be an improvement, even if it's still a losing season.

The Arkansas job itself is just as appealing as it was in April, only the current team has dropped in stock. We still have state-of-the-art facilities, lots of money to pay, and a spot in the top conference in America. Arkansas is a great job with no good leader. Any good coach who wants to build their own lasting program with lots of resources is going to be in "hog heaven" here. I do and always have firmly believed there is a person out there like that for us.

Quote from: IllinoisRazorbackFanHow are we higher?  They've won a multiple BCS bowls; how many have we won?  The amount of homers on this site is sickening.

Eh. West Virginia is better as of right now, but as plenty of posters have already mentioned, the job of West Virginia itself is not better at all. We have all of the perks mentioned above. Although the Big East's BCS Bowl plays tough competition just like our SEC's Bowl, we both know that it's a lot easier to get to a BCS Bowl in the Big East. They really shouldn't even have an auto-bid, they're such a weak conference. You may call it sugar coating, but we both know that's the truth. Arkansas is a good job with a crappy coach and team. That last part won't always be true, the great opportunities are here to stay.
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Murr

Quote from: BallHawger on October 03, 2012, 06:43:19 pm
Smokescreen.

Exactly,  I heard Al Golden, University of Miami and previously at Temple, was thinking about it/had feelers sent out.  In Golden's case, leaving the dumpter fire that is Miami would be a good thing to do now before the NCAA hands down sanctions from the latest booster findings and makes things worse.

Gotta love all the smoke blowing right now.

I still want GRUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNN!

Arkansas Fan

Thank God. That mullet wearing, no defense playing coach needs to stay out of Arkansas.

donbro

For the love of all things football Dana Holgerson team gave up 63 points to Baylor West Virginia can keep him

irishman

Quote from: IllinoisRazorbackFan on October 03, 2012, 06:47:33 pm
This doesn't suprise me.  Jeff Long is an idiot.

Hey, I'm as down on Jeff as anybody but I'm actually consider this good news in the sense that he IS doing something.

BPsTheMan

A smoke screen for what? Wally is loose with rumors, how is that a smoke screen from the BAC?

The real story is that, Wally is trying to become part of the story, as usual. When has he ever done anything but put his finger in the air and judge which way the wind was blowing?

I'm not real high on Jeff Long at this point, but I'm not going to blame JL for Wally's heehawing.

Murr

Quote from: Dr Carl aka Shorthog on October 03, 2012, 07:36:47 pm
I think this rumor is a pile of crap. I don't say that out of blind love for  my team. I say it because it just makes no sense. As far as the job, Arkansas is a good job. Is it as good as WV? I don't know. If you look at it objectively, Arkansas has a lot of advantages. However, WV is not exactly chopped liver and they are in a better position to win big right now than we are. So, it depends on what you are looking for as a coach. A rebuild where you can win with great facilities and the best conference? Or do you want a easier road to the BCS and about equal recruiting issues?

The rumor is smoke.  Why would Dana leave a job that he has built the program up to that can now contend for Big 12 titles just to go the Arkansas and get is *** stomped in by actual defenses.  I know they were able to move the ball on LSU in Mo-towne late the second half but that was because the tigers kept scoring too quickly on those 'eers.

Murr

Quote from: BPsTheMan on October 03, 2012, 08:58:36 pm
A smoke screen for what? Wally is loose with rumors, how is that a smoke screen from the BAC?

The real story is that, Wally is trying to become part of the story, as usual. When has he ever done anything but put his finger in the air and judge which way the wind was blowing?

I'm not real high on Jeff Long at this point, but I'm not going to blame JL for Wally's heehawing.

Could someone please define BAC? 

thanks

BPsTheMan


Pigs_In_Zen

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BPsTheMan

No coach would leave during the middle of the season. That doesn't mean agents aren't already taking phone calls. They are. They always are.

I think alot of you like throwing around the word "smoke." If you believe "this is smoke", then Wally loves it. He's part of the story now.

Stop being sheep.

The Boar War

Cool.  I remember when Tubby Smith reportedly turned us down before we hired Anderson.

BPsTheMan

...and as for the SI piece, it's no different than what we read on footballscoop.com, footballrumormill.com, etc, which can be pretty interesting this time of year.

DukeOfPork

Quote from: nwarazfan on October 03, 2012, 06:57:18 pm
I have hard time believing any employed head coach was offered the job in September.

This.

Choctaw Hog

Quote from: ThrillaHog on October 03, 2012, 06:32:33 pm
I was listening to the Shawn & Wally show and a few moments ago Wally Hall said that Sports Illustrated was reporting that Dana Holgerson was offered the Arkansas job and turned it down.

I went on Sports Illustrated and this is all I could find. It does state that Arkansas reportedly offered Holgerson but he turned down the Job.

http://razorbackers.com/2012/10/03/head-coaching-rumors-continue-to-swirl-at-arkansas/

These are quotes from the article


Of course he did. 

The Galloping Ghost

Quote from: Bubba's Bruisers on October 03, 2012, 06:36:36 pm
That means we must have backed off him, because someone better is in the fold.

Yep. Just like those 5-star players we are turning down.
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GoHogs1091

Dana Holgorsen is just one of several Coaches who don't care about Defense (along with Bobby Petrino, Chip Kelly, Rich Rodriguez, and Mike Gundy).  Holgorsen and these other fundamentally incomplete Coaches will always have a trophy case with no NC Trophy.   

Slater

Jury out on Holgerson, he is winning largely with Bill Stewart players. Would prefer Leach (proven) if Hogs hire an offensive fanatic.
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M L (bassplayer)

That is stupid. Like someone with a head coaching position at a good school would even respond to an offer when it is barely mid-season.

Wild Bill Hog

Maybe he didn't need somebody to help him skate around bankruptcy laws.

Calling All Hogs

Article is just rumor and speculation like "If Long did extend an offer one can only hope this came with a personal conduct clause along with a list of must hire defensive coordinators.Perhaps this is why Holgorsen is no longer interested in becoming the next head coach at Arkansas?" It has no credibility at all.

Wild Bill Hog

Would contacting a current HC before the season is halfway over be the act of a man of integrity?

Pyrotechnician

we dont need holgerson.  he'd get beat 70-0 in the sec
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redeye

Quote from: IllinoisRazorbackFan on October 03, 2012, 06:49:35 pm
How are we higher?  They've won a multiple BCS bowls; how many have we won?  The amount of homers on this site is sickening.

I REALLY hate the BCS bowl argument. In addition to what others have already said, Arkansas could claim far more BCS bowls, if the term "BCS bowl" wasn't so new. Apparently you think there's some big difference between Orange Bowl games today and those of 30 years ago, though. Well, 30 years ago the Orange Bowl probably wouldn't have had two 3-loss teams, as it did last year.

I really don't mind you criticizing homers around here, but make a decent argument next time.

JethroB.

Quote from: rlh06 on October 03, 2012, 06:58:15 pm
Has there ever been a standing coach who, 5 weeks into a season, came out and said, "Yes, the University of _________ offered me their HC gig and I will be accepting it at the end of the season?"  Just asking because this seems to be a surprise to some.

Kind of like lil Nicky "For the last time, I AM NOT going to be the head coach for the university of alabama."

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TeufelHog

GOOD!  Do not need, or want him here.  His defensive prowess is ZERO as well.  Why would he want to come to the hardest conference in NCAA football and get exposed. 

That is not a "homerun hire" prospect either.  WE CAN DO MUCH BETTER HOG FANS!