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weresoclose

I am on record saying take 'Bama no matter what the line is.... take Bama no matter how many points you have to give."  I only got one friend to follow my advice, and winning a few hundred bucks helped take the sting out of the humiliation for him.

I will say the same thing about Rutgers.  No matter what the line ends up being, take Rutgers. 

Right now, it's a pick.  I'd be really surprised if Arkansas didn't wind up getting some points, but that's where it's at right now. 

Boys, if you want to make lemonade this year, do what I'm doing and realize how jacked up this football team is right now, and let the public (who still thinks AR has enough talent to win, which they do but not with total incompetence in leadership) move the line in your favor.  Bet against Arkansas covering the spread from here on out, and if you see Arkansas favored, then smile a golden smile and get ready to make a deposit in the bank.

jacobp

He who boasts loudly about his sports wagering prowess, generally has the smallest bank account.  Arkansas will beat Rutgers by two or more scores on Saturday, if Wilson plays.

 

Killean

successful sports gamblers always tell people to take the opposite side of the line they want...
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SooiecidetillNuttgone

Quote from: weresoclose on September 17, 2012, 02:21:18 pm
I am on record saying take 'Bama no matter what the line is.... take Bama no matter how many points you have to give."  I only got one friend to follow my advice, and winning a few hundred bucks helped take the sting out of the humiliation for him.

I will say the same thing about Rutgers.  No matter what the line ends up being, take Rutgers. 

Right now, it's a pick.  I'd be really surprised if Arkansas didn't wind up getting some points, but that's where it's at right now. 

Boys, if you want to make lemonade this year, do what I'm doing and realize how jacked up this football team is right now, and let the public (who still thinks AR has enough talent to win, which they do but not with total incompetence in leadership) move the line in your favor.  Bet against Arkansas covering the spread from here on out, and if you see Arkansas favored, then smile a golden smile and get ready to make a deposit in the bank.

Never gambled.  What site/service do you use?
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weresoclose

Quote from: jacobp on September 17, 2012, 02:22:53 pm
He who boasts loudly about his sports wagering prowess, generally has the smallest bank account.  Arkansas will beat Rutgers by two or more scores on Saturday, if Wilson plays.

Because our stellar play with Wilson vs. JSU was so intimidating, a 3-0 program like Rutgers (who has looked much better than expectations) should just stay home, rather than get blown out!

weresoclose

Quote from: Killean on September 17, 2012, 02:24:05 pm
successful sports gamblers always tell people to take the opposite side of the line they want...

A few gamblers on hogville aren't going to move the line.

I'm trying to heal the wounds of a lost season.

Hedgehog22

If Wilson doesn't play I will bet big on Rutgers

weresoclose

Quote from: SooiecidetillNuttgone on September 17, 2012, 02:25:17 pm
Never gambled.  What site/service do you use?

You'll have to find a local bookie.  OR I think you can sports-bet at a casino nearby.  Gambling is one of those things that's illegality is archaic. 

Dropkick

Only line I have seen is 5Dimes. They have Hogs as 6 point favorite. Where did you get your info?

Hedgehog22

We have no players and no coaching.  I only see around 3 guys on this team making into the NFL, maybe just 2.  Probably the worst overall talent I've seen since the early 90s.  I hate to see how awful we will be next year even with a new coach, guess we can't get much worse.

Danny J

If TW plays, and the team has not quit, we win by 7-10. If TW does not play, the team has quit on itself then we lose by 17.

weresoclose

Quote from: Dropkick on September 17, 2012, 02:29:40 pm
Only line I have seen is 5Dimes. They have Hogs as 6 point favorite. Where did you get your info?

I've seen it on a few sites.  If that's what 5dimes says, then there you go.  Rutgers with 6?  Money.

dc10x1103

if tyler plays, anyone who is betting rutgers is asking to give their money away.

 

GoHogzzGo

I will give it to you OP. That is certainly a great way to turn a lemon into lemonade. I was 100% sold on Bama to cover last week. I have no ideo what team will show up this week though. Knew Bama would crush us. We could beat rutgers by 25 or lose by 25.
Success isn't permanent and failure isn't fatal.

Huckleberry Pig

if the line jumps to -7 or over for Arkansas I may take Rutgers.

weresoclose

Quote from: dc10x1103 on September 17, 2012, 02:33:39 pm
if tyler plays, anyone who is betting rutgers is asking to give their money away.

But why?  Based on the stellar play by our whole team and coaching staff Week 1 and 2?

HF#1

He is right, if you want to make money take Rutgers.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."  <br /><br />Benjamin Franklin

jacobp

Quote from: weresoclose on September 17, 2012, 02:25:24 pm
Because our stellar play with Wilson vs. JSU was so intimidating, a 3-0 program like Rutgers (who has looked much better than expectations) should just stay home, rather than get blown out!
much better than expectations?  They're 105th in the nation in passing after playing Tulane, Howard, and South Florida. USF held their RB to 2.5 yards a carry until his last carry of the game went for 41 yards. Defensively yes, they have great numbers but again, they played Tulane, Howard, and South Florida.  I'd be willing to bet that if it were announced Wilson was starting today, the line would be up to at least 10 by game time.

Karma

Quote from: weresoclose on September 17, 2012, 02:21:18 pm
I am on record saying take 'Bama no matter what the line is.... take Bama no matter how many points you have to give."  I only got one friend to follow my advice, and winning a few hundred bucks helped take the sting out of the humiliation for him.

I will say the same thing about Rutgers.  No matter what the line ends up being, take Rutgers. 

Right now, it's a pick.  I'd be really surprised if Arkansas didn't wind up getting some points, but that's where it's at right now. 

Boys, if you want to make lemonade this year, do what I'm doing and realize how jacked up this football team is right now, and let the public (who still thinks AR has enough talent to win, which they do but not with total incompetence in leadership) move the line in your favor.  Bet against Arkansas covering the spread from here on out, and if you see Arkansas favored, then smile a golden smile and get ready to make a deposit in the bank.
I'll take the opposite side of you, and we'll cut out the juice. How much?

jry04

Rutgers runs the ball a lot. We looked good against the run until our offense gave Bame their 3rd easy touchdown due to turnovers to go up even bigger than they already were. If Wilson plays, we will cover easily

Dcace83

Quote from: jacobp on September 17, 2012, 02:22:53 pm
He who boasts loudly about his sports wagering prowess, generally has the smallest bank account.  Arkansas will beat Rutgers by two or more scores on Saturday, if Wilson plays.

Sigh. When are people going to quit predicting Arkansas to win. What in God's name have you seen that leads you to believe we can win? TW is an amazing athlete. But if he doesn't have a line to protect him, a running game to keep the D honest, or coaches to put this team into positions to win, how can you possibly say we are going to win by freaking 14 points?

Have you watched Rutgers at all this season? They are no slouch.
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jamie72921

If Wilson is cleared to play, you are going to look like an idiot.
Bless your heart

jkstock04

Quote from: weresoclose on September 17, 2012, 02:21:18 pm
I am on record saying take 'Bama no matter what the line is.... take Bama no matter how many points you have to give."  I only got one friend to follow my advice, and winning a few hundred bucks helped take the sting out of the humiliation for him.

I will say the same thing about Rutgers.  No matter what the line ends up being, take Rutgers. 

Right now, it's a pick.  I'd be really surprised if Arkansas didn't wind up getting some points, but that's where it's at right now. 

Boys, if you want to make lemonade this year, do what I'm doing and realize how jacked up this football team is right now, and let the public (who still thinks AR has enough talent to win, which they do but not with total incompetence in leadership) move the line in your favor.  Bet against Arkansas covering the spread from here on out, and if you see Arkansas favored, then smile a golden smile and get ready to make a deposit in the bank.
How much $ you putting on it?  How much did you put on the Bama game?  Not really calling you out....but would point out it's real easy to sit here and talk without actually doing. 
Thanks for the F Shack. 

Love,

Dirty Mike and the Boys

weresoclose

Quote from: jamie72921 on September 17, 2012, 03:23:53 pm
If Wilson is cleared to play, you are going to look like an idiot.

You don't know that.  There are 21 other players on the field for the most important 2/3 of the game.  With Wilson in... you think he's Payton Manning?

 

weresoclose

September 17, 2012, 03:57:15 pm #24 Last Edit: September 17, 2012, 03:59:02 pm by weresoclose
Quote from: jkstock04 on September 17, 2012, 03:25:21 pm
How much $ you putting on it?  How much did you put on the Bama game?  Not really calling you out....but would point out it's real easy to sit here and talk without actually doing. 

I put only $100 on it.  My buddy (who has more bankroll to gamble, bet $500).  I didn't think I could bet against the Hogs, but when I got it at 20.5 I took it.

...then it moved to 21 (or more) and I felt good about it.  Don't think it was "public" money betting on Bama at that line, but every once in a while I don't mind betting with the public, as I did this time, regardless of whether it was or not.

Grunt

do the indian casinos bookie? i'd take Rutgers and 17 for 100$
The above is likely to be highly biased and may not be defensible.

duck slayer

Quote from: weresoclose on September 17, 2012, 02:21:18 pm
I am on record saying take 'Bama no matter what the line is.... take Bama no matter how many points you have to give."  I only got one friend to follow my advice, and winning a few hundred bucks helped take the sting out of the humiliation for him.

I will say the same thing about Rutgers.  No matter what the line ends up being, take Rutgers. 

Right now, it's a pick.  I'd be really surprised if Arkansas didn't wind up getting some points, but that's where it's at right now. 

Boys, if you want to make lemonade this year, do what I'm doing and realize how jacked up this football team is right now, and let the public (who still thinks AR has enough talent to win, which they do but not with total incompetence in leadership) move the line in your favor.  Bet against Arkansas covering the spread from here on out, and if you see Arkansas favored, then smile a golden smile and get ready to make a deposit in the bank.

Thanks John L!!!

weresoclose

Quote from: duck slayer on September 17, 2012, 04:16:15 pm
Thanks John L!!!

You can either take the sting away from the humiliation, or you can sit and endure it.  I chose the former.

Fayettechill14

If Wilson plays, Hogs win 31-21.
If not, I'm taking Rutgers 24-17.

I think he'll play and we'll win + cover.

jry04

September 17, 2012, 04:44:29 pm #29 Last Edit: September 17, 2012, 04:46:36 pm by rsvl_hogfan4
Quote from: weresoclose on September 17, 2012, 03:57:15 pm
I put only $100 on it.  My buddy (who has more bankroll to gamble, bet $500).  I didn't think I could bet against the Hogs, but when I got it at 20.5 I took it.

...then it moved to 21 (or more) and I felt good about it.  Don't think it was "public" money betting on Bama at that line, but every once in a while I don't mind betting with the public, as I did this time, regardless of whether it was or not.
You do realize it started at 14, right? You act as if it dropped down to 20.5 with your comment "when I got it at 20.5[...]I felt good about it."

Betting on sports does not make you some sort of genius. If you are such a smart/experienced better you would not be telling people to get it as a pick 'em. When Wilson is cleared, and he will be, everyone and their mom will put money down on Arkansas because whether you want to admit it or not, Wilson makes a HUGE difference. Wilson is as accurate as any QB in the country. Allen cannot get the ball into the playmaker's hands. Wilson can. So there will be a ton of money placed on Arkansas as soon as Wilson is cleared. I would be willing to bet the line moves to Arkansas -5 or -6 by kickoff.

Since you are so confident in Rutgers beating us regardless of who we play at QB, you would be wise to hold off until Thursday or Friday because the line will likely move, and in your opinion would make it even easier money.

By the way, not sure what line you use, but the closest I have seen to a pick 'em is Bovada, at Ark -2. Everyone else has it at least -5.5

weresoclose

Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 17, 2012, 04:44:29 pm
You do realize it started at 14, right? You act as if it dropped down to 20.5 with your comment "when I got it at 20.5[...]I felt good about it."

Betting on sports does not make you some sort of genius. If you are such a smart/experienced better you would not be telling people to get it as a pick 'em. When Wilson is cleared, and he will be, everyone and their mom will put money down on Arkansas because whether you want to admit it or not, Wilson makes a HUGE difference. Wilson is as accurate as any QB in the country. Allen cannot get the ball into the playmaker's hands. Wilson can. So there will be a ton of money placed on Arkansas as soon as Wilson is cleared. I would be willing to bet the line moves to Arkansas -5 or -6 by kickoff.

Since you are so confident in Rutgers beating us regardless of who we play at QB, you would be wise to hold off until Thursday or Friday because the line will likely move, and in your opinion would make it even easier money.



I did see it was 2 TDS.  Before I could put something on it (I was working a ton last week) it moved... it only moved to 20.5 instead of 21, and I felt good about it.

This thread is not about my bets.  It is about encouraging people to feel better about the situation by making money off it.  That may sound fickle, but for me it works. 

HotlantaHog

I never bet for or against the Hogs.

I am too stupid. What is obvious to me often turns out to be wrong.

cmiller01

weresoclose,

I'm looking at getting into sports betting and was wondering if you used any type of formulas for determining outcomes? I've been looking at the Pythagorean Theorem and this stuff is very interesting.

weresoclose

Quote from: cmiller01 on September 17, 2012, 04:54:46 pm
weresoclose,

I'm looking at getting into sports betting and was wondering if you used any type of formulas for determining outcomes? I've been looking at the Pythagorean Theorem and this stuff is very interesting.

The square of our lack of coaching plus the square of our team's lack of giving a schmitt equals the square of Rutgers covering whatever the spread is.

If you could see the team attitude like I did last week, this wouldn't be as difficult of a deduction as you think it is.

hoggystyle78

I won $100 on the Bama/hog game Saturday, watching the Rutgers game line closely, may have to make some more easy money Saturday.  ;D

weresoclose

Just so nobody can say they weren't warned...

And to the person
Quote from: jacobp on September 17, 2012, 02:22:53 pm
He who boasts loudly about his sports wagering prowess, generally has the smallest bank account.  Arkansas will beat Rutgers by two or more scores on Saturday, if Wilson plays.

No, he who boasts loudly about sports betting tries to get people to make money instead of falling asleep crying into their huge pillows.

Rutgers will beat Arkansas by two scores no matter if Wilson plays or not.  Take it to the bank lol.



For those of you who still unsure as to my whether or not to believe my gambling prognostications, let me say this (and then come back next Sunday and reveal the truth again):



TAKE TAMU NO MATTER WHAT THE SPREAD

weresoclose

Quote from: jamie72921 on September 17, 2012, 03:23:53 pm
If Wilson is cleared to play, you are going to look like an idiot.

Do I look like an idiot now, or do you for suggesting I would while being a total homer and not understanding how college football works (i.e. no coach=no win)??

weresoclose

Quote from: cmiller01 on September 17, 2012, 04:54:46 pm
weresoclose,

I'm looking at getting into sports betting and was wondering if you used any type of formulas for determining outcomes? I've been looking at the Pythagorean Theorem and this stuff is very interesting.

Well cmiller, I don't use mathematics to bet on sports.  I use analysis of human psychology combined with physical realities.

So when a good Rutgers team comes to SEC territory looking to bring their A game and prove they belong with the big boys, and when the SEC team they play doesn't have a head football coach yet does have incompetence in both offensive and defensive assistents, and when the PUBLIC is putting money on the SEC team sheerly because of the conference to which they belong....

SMART MONEY IS ON RUTGERS.


It's really that simple.

razorbackkid

Quote from: weresoclose on September 23, 2012, 11:11:21 am
Just so nobody can say they weren't warned...

And to the person
No, he who boasts loudly about sports betting tries to get people to make money instead of falling asleep crying into their huge pillows.

Rutgers will beat Arkansas by two scores no matter if Wilson plays or not.  Take it to the bank lol.



For those of you who still unsure as to my whether or not to believe my gambling prognostications, let me say this (and then come back next Sunday and reveal the truth again):



TAKE TAMU NO MATTER WHAT THE SPREAD

Hey....you might be onto something here! :)
I would rather live as if there is a God and find out there isn't, than to live as if there isn't and find out there is.

Pig in the Pokey

Quote from: weresoclose on September 23, 2012, 11:17:15 am
Well cmiller, I don't use mathematics to bet on sports.  I use analysis of human psychology combined with physical realities.

So when a good Rutgers team comes to SEC territory looking to bring their A game and prove they belong with the big boys, and when the SEC team they play doesn't have a head football coach yet does have incompetence in both offensive and defensive assistents, and when the PUBLIC is putting money on the SEC team sheerly because of the conference to which they belong....

SMART MONEY IS ON RUTGERS.


It's really that simple.
spot on analysis
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weresoclose

Quote from: hoggystyle78 on September 17, 2012, 06:05:42 pm
I won $100 on the Bama/hog game Saturday, watching the Rutgers game line closely, may have to make some more easy money Saturday.  ;D

I hope you did.  Right now, taking Arkansas' opponents no matter what the spread is the easiest money to be made on the planet.

Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 17, 2012, 04:44:29 pm
You do realize it started at 14, right? You act as if it dropped down to 20.5 with your comment "when I got it at 20.5[...]I felt good about it."

Betting on sports does not make you some sort of genius. If you are such a smart/experienced better you would not be telling people to get it as a pick 'em. When Wilson is cleared, and he will be, everyone and their mom will put money down on Arkansas because whether you want to admit it or not, Wilson makes a HUGE difference. Wilson is as accurate as any QB in the country. Allen cannot get the ball into the playmaker's hands. Wilson can. So there will be a ton of money placed on Arkansas as soon as Wilson is cleared. I would be willing to bet the line moves to Arkansas -5 or -6 by kickoff.

Since you are so confident in Rutgers beating us regardless of who we play at QB, you would be wise to hold off until Thursday or Friday because the line will likely move, and in your opinion would make it even easier money.

By the way, not sure what line you use, but the closest I have seen to a pick 'em is Bovada, at Ark -2. Everyone else has it at least -5.5

It didn't matter how many points I was getting.  I said I would take Rutgers straight-up.

You were right though, because when Wilson was cleared to play, the public was duped into thinking a 21 year old kid makes more of a difference than having an head coach.  Made it all the more obvious to take Rutgers with the "smart money."

Quote from: HotlantaHog on September 17, 2012, 04:50:13 pm
I never bet for or against the Hogs.

I am too stupid. What is obvious to me often turns out to be wrong.

Last year I bet on the hogs to cover the spread against both Bama and LSU, and I learned my lesson, and this year is the very first year EVER I've bet the Hogs to lose, and it makes the whole debacle of losing our coach who gave us a shot at the NC a little less painful.

Quote from: Grunt on September 17, 2012, 04:08:43 pm
do the indian casinos bookie? i'd take Rutgers and 17 for 100$

You didn't need any points after all.  Did you really think you needed 17 to make it a safe bet?  Listen, I'll say it again, take TAMU no matter what the spread.  Vegas/public will think we couldn't possibly be this bad, and they'll make the line 14, but we'll lose by 21+ .....

Quote from: Dcace83 on September 17, 2012, 03:21:55 pm
Sigh. When are people going to quit predicting Arkansas to win. What in God's name have you seen that leads you to believe we can win? TW is an amazing athlete. But if he doesn't have a line to protect him, a running game to keep the D honest, or coaches to put this team into positions to win, how can you possibly say we are going to win by freaking 14 points?

Have you watched Rutgers at all this season? They are no slouch.

It's nice to know there are posters on here who actually watch the games and know how college football works.  Cheers to you, my man, for not having your head in the sand and seeing the duck (walks like one, quacks like one, etc.) for a duck.  Good luck betting this week -- I'm looking forward to making money 3 weeks in a row taking arkansas' opponent to cover no matter the spread.

weresoclose

Quote from: Killean on September 17, 2012, 02:24:05 pm
successful sports gamblers always tell people to take the opposite side of the line they want...

Why would I care if a dozen Arkansas fans put a couple hundred dollars on the Hogs?  I was just trying to help ease everyone's pain.

weresoclose

Quote from: Danny J (headhawg7) on September 17, 2012, 02:32:02 pm
If TW plays, and the team has not quit, we win by 7-10. If TW does not play, the team has quit on itself then we lose by 17.

The team never "quit" but the coaches didn't give them the chance to win. 

Again, it doesn't matter the quality of players, doesn't matter the "talent," if you don't have a head football coach you simply cannot win football games.

weresoclose

Why "vents and rumors?"  I'm trying to help our fanbase ease the pain!!

jkstock04

Gotta say you nailed this one.  Honestly I did not think we would win the game, to me after Louisiana Monroe sky is the limit.  But seeing us heavily favored on the sportsbooks (hogs money line -300) made me think I was perhaps too pessimistic.  I think this team has the talent to beat Rutgers 14-17 points....but coaching and lack of discipline is perhaps something not in Vegas' point spread equation.   

Also I must say how convenient it is....those who called you out as an idiot or gonna look stupid would never show back up in this thread.....weird.  What that shows is poor character or lack there of. 
Thanks for the F Shack. 

Love,

Dirty Mike and the Boys

Hedgehog22


HoopS

Remember a few weeks ago how that one voter dared to rank us 21st?  Folks reamed him, the idiot.  Turns out he was the closest, perhaps in the whole country.  Bet not a single person has contacted him since.  I wish he'd rank us 21st again...