I Like Paul Petrino!!!!

[jpsand]

I have been following Paul and listening to him and I like him.  I am not in the inner circle to know what he knows and how he handles a team but I like his style.  He is good with the offense and if he were to be head coach I believe the staff would stay the way it is.  I know he is not the home run hire many want but I the love the offense and I believe we have our defense going the right way also.  If we could hire one of the best recruiters in the nation who could also help with the offense Paul should be fine at the head job.  My biggest fear is that we go backwards just to say we have a real head coach.  Keep the offense and the staff together with a number 1 recruiter and the sky is the limit.

[arkfan81]

I would like him to be our head coach as well. I think it all depends on this season. I would like to see him build a name for himself here at Arkansas

[FaytownHog]

I have been following Paul and listening to him and I like him.  I am not in the inner circle to know what he knows and how he handles a team but I like his style.  He is good with the offense and if he were to be head coach I believe the staff would stay the way it is.  I know he is not the home run hire many want but I the love the offense and I believe we have our defense going the right way also.  If we could hire one of the best recruiters in the nation who could also help with the offense Paul should be fine at the head job.  My biggest fear is that we go backwards just to say we have a real head coach.  Keep the offense and the staff together with a number 1 recruiter and the sky is the limit.

I'm in this corner too!

[Dropkick]

I have been following Paul and listening to him and I like him.  I am not in the inner circle to know what he knows and how he handles a team but I like his style.  He is good with the offense and if he were to be head coach I believe the staff would stay the way it is.  I know he is not the home run hire many want but I the love the offense and I believe we have our defense going the right way also.  If we could hire one of the best recruiters in the nation who could also help with the offense Paul should be fine at the head job.  My biggest fear is that we go backwards just to say we have a real head coach.  Keep the offense and the staff together with a number 1 recruiter and the sky is the limit.

aaaaah, you said head job, hehe hehe

[jpsand]

aaaaah, you said head job, hehe hehe

Bad choice of words.   

[HF#1]

I've said from the start that I would support Paul Petrino 100%.

[Rockpig5]

I have been following Paul and listening to him and I like him.  I am not in the inner circle to know what he knows and how he handles a team but I like his style.  He is good with the offense and if he were to be head coach I believe the staff would stay the way it is.  I know he is not the home run hire many want but I the love the offense and I believe we have our defense going the right way also.  If we could hire one of the best recruiters in the nation who could also help with the offense Paul should be fine at the head job.  My biggest fear is that we go backwards just to say we have a real head coach.  Keep the offense and the staff together with a number 1 recruiter and the sky is the limit.

Yes sir!!

[twistitup]

I like Paul for the job....it would show the nation that although brother Bob f'ed up, we did not give up on the whole family tree.

Operation: Save The Family Name

 

[Hawg Balling]

I'll just defer to something I wrote the other day, as it's applicable (sans the last sentence) to this conversation:

I don't understand the obsession with keeping the staff together.  Can we make it through this year and have a great season?  Sure.  Can it last beyond that?  Probably not.  Bobby Petrino was what made this staff click and this program go, and the sum of the parts of his staff aren't going to give you Bobby Petrino results without him.  Plus, the surefire way to not get a great coach to come here is to dictate that he keep the current staff in place and not bring in his own people. 

[Root66]

I'm in...

[elviscat]

If we like the Petrino' Offense then Paul would be the man to continue the plan. I think he would be an excellent choice. Hire Paul.

[hoghiker]

I have been following Paul and listening to him and I like him.  I am not in the inner circle to know what he knows and how he handles a team but I like his style.  He is good with the offense and if he were to be head coach I believe the staff would stay the way it is.  I know he is not the home run hire many want but I the love the offense and I believe we have our defense going the right way also.  If we could hire one of the best recruiters in the nation who could also help with the offense Paul should be fine at the head job.  My biggest fear is that we go backwards just to say we have a real head coach.  Keep the offense and the staff together with a number 1 recruiter and the sky is the limit.

A Petrino brother ain't bad, but if we're going with this line of thinking I'd like to have Lombardi's grandson. I'd even consider a Saban sibling if he's got one. Maybe not a sister. Landry always seemed a little stiff in a genetic sort of way. Not sure that would translate to college recruiting. Broyles has grand  kids. They'd have connections with the program, know football, and if they're anything like Frank, we know they could recruit. Can you imagine a staff made up from this pool. Look over on the Razorback sideline and see Lombardi, Landry, Saban, Broyles and yes Petrino. I could win on the Hill with that staff.

[HogNdazs]

As long as the offense did well this season I am on board for sure. I like him. I bet the players would like that too.

Although I don't think Long would fire John L and still hire in house but idk.

[Potosihog]

He doesn't have to fire JL.  He has a 10 month contract.

[handicappedhog]

I would be happy with PP.

[The Boar War]

What happens when we go up against (in recruiting and on the field) the creator with the disciple?

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Hiring a proven assistant from within has worked for programs with established positive momentum. 

Patterson was an assistant of Francione's at TCU.
Although Dan Hawkins flamed out at CU, he was an assistant for Dirk Koetter at BSU before being promoted to HC when Koetter left.  Hawkins proceeded to go 53-11 in 5 years, that's just not riding out what Koetter left.
Peterson was Hawkins OC at Boise and has elevated the program even higher.

Paul may be ready, he may not, but if we see no drop off in performance on the offensive side of the ball I think he should get a long look.  I'm all for giving Haynes a look as well if the defense shows significan improvement.  We have 2 great young coordinators and if they do a great job this year I hope they will both be considered.

 

[Rzback]

Can Paul pick up and carry on with the offense where Bobby left off?

[Tarheelhawg]

100 percent if he earns it this season. 

[twistitup]

What happens when we go up against (in recruiting and on the field) the creator with the disciple?

Players may prefer playing for the disciple...if they enjoy the game more, they will work harder and become more successful.

I get the feeling the players did not 'like' Bob P all that much, hopefully Paul will keep the Petrino offensive schemes, but not come with the unappealing attitude that Bob had.

[Cave City Joe]

CPP  that sounds good.  We'll know more after Bama

[Hoggish1]

You very well may have a winner there.  PP may be ready to step into a role he's been prepping for under the shadow of BP....

I know this—JLS may guide us for a year based on having a fine team thrown in his lap, but he is not the builder we need, long term.  God bless him for this year, though!!

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Players may prefer playing for the disciple...if they enjoy the game more, they will work harder and become more successful.

I get the feeling the players did not 'like' Bob P all that much, hopefully Paul will keep the Petrino offensive schemes, but not come with the unappealing attitude that Bob had.

Yeah, I don't want a players coach necessarily but I don't want a total d!ck either.  Happy medium may be the best.  You know many times when the coach is fired regardless of circumstances the players are pissed, jump to his defense, etc.  Didn't see that with BP.

[Hawgzinbowlz]

JL has the luxury of watching PP and JLS in action. Petrino ball puts the rear ends in the seats, excites the recruits, excites the entire fan base, etc., etc. If we are highly successful PP would be a good choice either now or after the JLS run. Go Hogs ! ! ! !

[Hoggish1]

A Petrino brother ain't bad, but if we're going with this line of thinking I'd like to have Lombardi's grandson. I'd even consider a Saban sibling if he's got one. Maybe not a sister. Landry always seemed a little stiff in a genetic sort of way. Not sure that would translate to college recruiting. Broyles has grand  kids. They'd have connections with the program, know football, and if they're anything like Frank, we know they could recruit. Can you imagine a staff made up from this pool. Look over on the Razorback sideline and see Lombardi, Landry, Saban, Broyles and yes Petrino. I could win on the Hill with that staff.

OK, fine, but no nutts..., OK?

[HogWall Jackson]

If he proves to be ready, then he deserves the shot. Right now, we have a few ballgames to win.

[Tick Hog]

I'm sorry but there is a lot more to running a major football program then just calling plays. Paul heck i like the guy hope he stays on as OC for years to come but I want a General at the top.

[The Boar War]

I noticed that myself.

My issue with Paul has nothing to do with his last name but more to do with is last job: when the tools aren't in evidence, he tanks.  For any future consideration, the question shouldn't be about whether he can run this offense, the question is whether he can run one not built by a different coach.

You can only learn that by watching someone do it.  Personally, I'd rather watch him try to do it in the WAC.  There's not enough evidence currently available for me to believe he could do it in the SEC.

That's kind of how I feel as well.  Also there's no guarantee that this staff stays together (not a requirement for me but a reason some use for elevating Paul) if Paul is the head coach.  In fact if he's chosen over others it's less likely that they stay.  Then the question is who does a first time head coach put on his staff?

[immahog]

I would be on board with pp

[Hawg Balling]

Players may prefer playing for the disciple...if they enjoy the game more, they will work harder and become more successful.

I get the feeling the players did not 'like' Bob P all that much, hopefully Paul will keep the Petrino offensive schemes, but not come with the unappealing attitude that Bob had.

Why would we be basing hiring decisions (not to mention it's one of the bigger ones in our history)  on who the current players like?  As Eastxhawg put in another thread, that's Short Term Thinking 101.  The players like him, wonderful.  Bobby Petrino is what made this program tick and - like I posted earlier - I don't get why our fan base has no end of trouble understanding that you're not going to get Bobby Petrino results without Bobby Petrino at the helm, no matter how you try to piece together the staff he left in place.  You think Alabama would be expecting the same Nick Saban results long term if they simply promoted Kirby Smart and kept Saban's old staff in place?   

[Grunt]

I'll just defer to something I wrote the other day, as it's applicable (sans the last sentence) to this conversation:

Well, but i'm not sure. They had 4 years to learn from BP and most of them have been together that long. So maybe keeping the staff intact would have some merit.

[hawgwash]

A Petrino brother ain't bad, but if we're going with this line of thinking I'd like to have Lombardi's grandson. I'd even consider a Saban sibling if he's got one. Maybe not a sister. Landry always seemed a little stiff in a genetic sort of way. Not sure that would translate to college recruiting. Broyles has grand  kids. They'd have connections with the program, know football, and if they're anything like Frank, we know they could recruit. Can you imagine a staff made up from this pool. Look over on the Razorback sideline and see Lombardi, Landry, Saban, Broyles and yes Petrino. I could win on the Hill with that staff.

How about Saban's daughter?  I hear she's tough as nails.

[Hawg Balling]

Yeah, I don't want a players coach necessarily but I don't want a total d!ck either.  Happy medium may be the best.  You know many times when the coach is fired regardless of circumstances the players are pissed, jump to his defense, etc.  Didn't see that with BP.

Here's the thing, I don't give a crap who the players like, and our coach (and fan base for that matter) shouldn't either.  I want someone who wins games.  I don't care if the players wouldn't have peed on Petrino if he were on fire, he had them in winning form on Saturdays.  I want the same out of a new staff, and I stress the word "new."

[Grunt]

A Petrino brother ain't bad, but if we're going with this line of thinking I'd like to have Lombardi's grandson. I'd even consider a Saban sibling if he's got one. Maybe not a sister. Landry always seemed a little stiff in a genetic sort of way. Not sure that would translate to college recruiting. Broyles has grand  kids. They'd have connections with the program, know football, and if they're anything like Frank, we know they could recruit. Can you imagine a staff made up from this pool. Look over on the Razorback sideline and see Lombardi, Landry, Saban, Broyles and yes Petrino. I could win on the Hill with that staff.

Never know when that pooch kick gene might crop up.

[CR7]

I've said from the start that I would support Paul Petrino 100%.

This.

[Hawg Balling]

Well, but i'm not sure. They had 4 years to learn from BP and most of them have been together that long. So maybe keeping the staff intact would have some merit.

Keeping the staff intact is great for this year, but what about next year?  Are people seriously expecting us to churn out Bobby Petrino results in the long term with his old staff sans Bobby Petrino? 

If that's the case, then why is everyone so mad we fired him?  Seems to me that people get all up in arms about firing Petrino, only to turn around and claim we can replicate his system without him. 

[dsims2k3]

I thought everyone felt that he had the same downside that Garrick has.

[Tim Harris]

If we like the Petrino' Offense then Paul would be the man to continue the plan. I think he would be an excellent choice. Hire Paul.

Paul's offense was quite a bit different at Illinois.

[Hawg Balling]

I thought everyone felt that he had the same downside that Garrick has.

The Paul Petrino love stems from the fact that a large portion of our fan base has no ability to see past 2012.  It's just Short Term Thinking 101, and it's permeated through our fan base since late April. 

[Pig Worshipper]

I am very much in favor of the possibility of Paul Petrino as head coach but I do want to see how our offense performs this season, particularly against SEC competition.

[Tim Harris]

The Paul Petrino love stems from the fact that a large portion of our fan base has no ability to see past 2012.  It's just Short Term Thinking 101, and it's permeated through our fan base since late April. 

It is always that way on here. Same thing with basketball.  When their is an opening they always want someone from the NC team.

[Tim Harris]

What has the staff proven that makes people say we have to keep them?

[Grunt]

Keeping the staff intact is great for this year, but what about next year?  Are people seriously expecting us to churn out Bobby Petrino results in the long term with his old staff sans Bobby Petrino? 

If that's the case, then why is everyone so mad we fired him?  Seems to me that people get all up in arms about firing Petrino, only to turn around and claim we can replicate his system without him. 

I wouldn't claim we could replicate his system without him but that's not why i'm pist about firing him. I just think firing BP was high-horse.

[Hawg Balling]

Because what happens, post Year Three, is that you've either won it all and put tons of folks on the road to the NFL or -- suddenly -- you can't recruit top notch athletes and the slide begins.  Narcissistic disciplinarians reach the mountain top, FAST, or implode.  (Some, do both.)

The XY axis is coaching and recruiting.  Scale of one to ten in each category?  If you get a nine coach who is a five recruiter you receive a winning area of 45 (Petrino).  If you get a seven coach who is a seven recruiter you receive a winning area of 49 (Miles).

It's called the Law of the Lid put out by leadership guru John Maxwell.

Bottom line?  There are different ways to lead.  Saban is, probably, an eight at both for a clear winner 64.

You can be feared, respected or liked.  Pick TWO.

The last two are more effective, long term.  BE STRATEGIC.

Saban is a narcissistic disciplinarian, and he owns a house on the mountain top. 

Houston Nutt put a ton of players in the NFL and his players loved him, but he never won anything of substance. 

Liking your coach is great for old team reunions and handing out life lessons, but we didn't pay Petrino just south of $4 million to pat backs and increase his Facebook friend count.  I don't care if our coach loses every popularity contest he enters as long as he wins football games.   

[OTTER]

I'm wanting to wait and see what this season brings.  I have serious doubts that the next HC will come from the promotion of a current assistant.  I just don't see that happening.  Not slamming anyone, and frankly they have done a great job including recruiting under a very tough situation, but I believe that this search is focusing on experienced, successful, head coaches, not assistants.   

[cessna8667]

Hire Bobby back, after this year.  There is no clone.

[blyhog]

If we get the chance to keep CPP I am all in for that dude!!Lets think for a moment "IF" and when the end of the season gets here.What exactly Paul will have possibly went through to get the job  FACT:1This wont be an easy situation for CPP,he will have to endure JLS(who Also WANTS THE JOB) who will be pointing "See Me See Me Im THE MAN"everytime he gets a chance if we win the BigGames.He will most likely(if he is a competitor as would any man in his position)try to suppress CPPs effectiveness.JLS is no fool,he knows that Paul is his main competition right now,so dont be suprised by JLS attempt to circle his own wagon. FACT 2: CPP will have to live down the naysayers that will not give him independent credit of BobbyP,and also the other Asst. that covet the opportunity will try to do all they can along with CPP to try & SHINE!! I for one am both excited &dubious!! If anyone has ever been in a battle with coworkers for a prominent position knows as I do,the longer this thing drags out the UGLIER it may get!!

[twistitup]

Here's the thing, I don't give a crap who the players like,

This is not the 1950's.....what players think does matter. Recruits communicate with each other and with current players - if a coach is a complete prick he won't be able to recruit top players on a consistent basis.

It's called the internet, twitter, facebook, etc players talk now more than ever....coaches must win and the kids need to like them or it won't work LONG TERM. When a coach is not liked by the adminsitration and players it only takes ONE incident for the coach to be let go - ask Bob.

[Hawg Balling]

This is not the 1950's.....what players think does matter. Recruits communicate with each other and with current players - if a coach is a complete prick he won't be able to recruit top players on a consistent basis.

It's called the internet, twitter, facebook, etc players talk now more than ever....coaches must win and the kids need to like them or it won't work LONG TERM. When a coach is not liked by the adminsitration and players it only takes ONE incident for the coach to be let go - ask Bob.

Apparently four and five star guys haven't gotten the memo about Nick Saban.  Plus, Petrino did just fine without his players' respect, love, or admiration.  Nutt, however, did not.

[Justifiable Hogicide]

I like him too and would support him 100%.
But I doubt our AD will ever give him a fair consideration based on his scorch the earth attitude toward his brother.