Worst MLB Contracts

[ucahogfan]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/worst-contracts-mlb-albert-pujols-ryan-howard-alex-rodriguez-vernon-wells-alfonso-soriano.html

Really disagree with Mauer at #2.

[ErieHog]

Yeah, Mauer doesn't belong in that company.

He's still a .320-.340 guy who will contend for a batting title or highest OBP in the league, and give Gold Glove defense behind the plate for about 100 games a year.

Give it two more years, and him being out from behind the plate entirely; as it stands there are easily 10 worse contracts.

[clutch]

Yeah, Mauer doesn't belong in that company.

He's still a .320-.340 guy who will contend for a batting title or highest OBP in the league, and give Gold Glove defense behind the plate for about 100 games a year.

Give it two more years, and him being out from behind the plate entirely; as it stands there are easily 10 worse contracts.

He at least shouldn't be as high on that list as they have him.

[ucahogfan]

He doesn't produce numbers,on the field, worth 23 million per year.

So Gold Glove level defense behind the plate (like Erie said, half of the year), a guy that you can plug into the 3 hole and know he will hit at least .320, and a player who will contribute extensively on offense (although with little power) isn't worth 23 million a year?  Players like Mauer are once in a generation type talents and I think they should be one of the highest paid players in the game.

Plus, he has introduced a new type of catcher.  There might be some before him, but most catchers have been short and stocky (ala Molina) while Mauer is tall and athletically built.  6-5 players should never been counted on to catch their entire careers, especially one that you plan to build the franchise around like the Twins are doing with Mauer.

[bsking]

Mauer is overpaid, for sure.  Not #2 on that list, but he is overpaid.  GG caliber catchers are a dime a dozen.  His offensive production is definitely good for a catcher but I don't think he's a 3,4,5 hitter on a good team.

[Oliver]

I got to number 10 and didn't see Jason Bay.  I thought how in the hell did he not make this list.   Then I saw that they had to make the list go to 11 so they could include that heaping pile of a contract.

[Oklahawg]

A good link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/

Oliver, I'd say that Johan Santana at $25M for 2013 is rather overpaid (link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=158)

Ryan Howard is not worth $25M, Roy Halladay is no longer worth $20M, and Chase Utley is not worth $15M (2013 salaries). The Phillies are making a run at the Mets for most ridiculous collection of contracts.

Carl Crawford at $20M, Josh Becket at $13.75M, Tim Lincicum at $22M...man, there are some folks making major coin and not earning it.

[ucahogfan]

A good link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/

Oliver, I'd say that Johan Santana at $25M for 2013 is rather overpaid (link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=158)

Ryan Howard is not worth $25M, Roy Halladay is no longer worth $20M, and Chase Utley is not worth $15M (2013 salaries). The Phillies are making a run at the Mets for most ridiculous collection of contracts.

Carl Crawford at $20M, Josh Becket at $13.75M, Tim Lincicum at $22M...man, there are some folks making major coin and not earning it.

I personally think Halladay is worth 20 million a year.  2012 is the 1st year he has an ERA above 4 since 2004 and has never had a season above a 3.71 ERA in which he has throw at least 150 innings.  He has had some injuries this year, but is still one of the top 5 pitchers in the game when healthy.  Do agree that Howard and Utley aren't worth the money they are being paid.  The Phillies are paying like 6 or 7 players more than what like 20 other teams are paying their entire roster.  It is insane how much they are putting on Howard, Utley, Halladay, Lee, Hamels, and Papelbon.

[Oliver]

A good link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/

Oliver, I'd say that Johan Santana at $25M for 2013 is rather overpaid (link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=158)

Ryan Howard is not worth $25M, Roy Halladay is no longer worth $20M, and Chase Utley is not worth $15M (2013 salaries). The Phillies are making a run at the Mets for most ridiculous collection of contracts.

Carl Crawford at $20M, Josh Becket at $13.75M, Tim Lincicum at $22M...man, there are some folks making major coin and not earning it.

No doubt Johan is overpaid next year.  But we all thought that when we originally signed him.  Backloaded contract.  But at least the Mets have received some usage from Johan including a season where he put up Cy Young worthy numbers.

Bay was a contract every Mets fan was screaming "NOOOOO" before it even happened.  He's never provided anything positive for the Mets when he's played and that's been very rarely.

[Hogtropolis™]

What is Dice-K making? He's in the minors and I thought I remember the BoSox paying him a lot.

[ucahogfan]

What is Dice-K making? He's in the minors and I thought I remember the BoSox paying him a lot.

10.33 million.  Might be the last year of his contract because he is way overpaid for that and the writer didn't include contracts that ended in 2012.

[Root66]

Excerpt:

7. Albert Pujols, Los Angeles Angels; signed through 2021, owed $232 million: Yes, the ink is barely dry on this landmark 10-year, $240 million contract, and yes, Pujols is a bargain this year and next when the Angels are paying him a total of $28 million. But that just makes the back end of the deal more dangerous. Check back in 2017 when he's 37 years old and the Angels still owe him $140 million over the next five years. He'll likely be No. 1 on this list.

Heck, he's not producing at a $14MM/year rate right now. I am SO GLAD the Cardinals let this primadonna walk.

[ucahogfan]

Heck, he's not producing at a $14MM/year rate right now. I am SO GLAD the Cardinals let this primadonna walk.

1.  Pujols is making 12 million this year.

2.  He is on track to hit .280/.344/.524 with 36 HRs and 114 RBIs all while having an epic slump in April.  It isn't out of the question he raises his average to .300 and hits 40 HRs with 120 RBIs this year.

3.  You sound like a scorned lover in this situation.  Pujols is definitely producing for what he is paid THIS YEAR and then some.  In fact, I would say he is having a better season than his replacement Carlos Beltran who the Cards are paying 13 million this year.

[bsking]

1.  Pujols is making 12 million this year.

2.  He is on track to hit .280/.344/.524 with 36 HRs and 114 RBIs all while having an epic slump in April.  It isn't out of the question he raises his average to .300 and hits 40 HRs with 120 RBIs this year.

3.  You sound like a scorned lover in this situation.  Pujols is definitely producing for what he is paid THIS YEAR and then some.  In fact, I would say he is having a better season than his replacement Carlos Beltran who the Cards are paying 13 million this year.

Don't bother.  Pujols could hit 500 bombs and win 6 WS titles for the Halos and Root would say it's a good thing the Cards didn't sign him.

[bsking]

And there are 25 guys making over 17 million this year.  At least 20 of them aren't on par with Pujols' year.  Honestly, he's a bargain right now.

[Root66]

Don't bother.  Pujols could hit 500 bombs and win 6 WS titles for the Halos and Root would say it's a good thing the Cards didn't sign him.

It's not a good thing...it's a great thing.

[bsking]

It's not a good thing...it's a great thing.

Naive homer.

[Root66]

1.  Pujols is making 12 million this year.

2.  He is on track to hit .280/.344/.524 with 36 HRs and 114 RBIs all while having an epic slump in April.  It isn't out of the question he raises his average to .300 and hits 40 HRs with 120 RBIs this year.

3.  You sound like a scorned lover in this situation.  Pujols is definitely producing for what he is paid THIS YEAR and then some.  In fact, I would say he is having a better season than his replacement Carlos Beltran who the Cards are paying 13 million this year.

EXCERPT from linked article...

7. Albert Pujols, Los Angeles Angels; signed through 2021, owed $232 million: Yes, the ink is barely dry on this landmark 10-year, $240 million contract, and yes, Pujols is a bargain this year and next when the Angels are paying him a total of $28 million. But that just makes the back end of the deal more dangerous. Check back in 2017 when he's 37 years old and the Angels still owe him $140 million over the next five years. He'll likely be No. 1 on this list.

That was #7 copied and pasted from the linked article. Last that I remember from 3/4th grade math...
$28 million divided by 2 years is $14 million a year. I guess this could have changed within our crack educational system...especially with NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND (in our ghettos of course).

However, the numerical replacement for el Honery on the Cardinal roster has 28 home runs and 83 RBIs. Right NOW.  And he only signed up for two years. Chances are good that he'll re-ink for a couple of more if he shows continued production. Pujols can go jump into the Pacific and take that little smart-ass wife with him.

[Root66]

Naive homer.

You darned right I'm homer. Razorbacks and Cardinals.

[ucahogfan]

EXCERPT from linked article...

7. Albert Pujols, Los Angeles Angels; signed through 2021, owed $232 million: Yes, the ink is barely dry on this landmark 10-year, $240 million contract, and yes, Pujols is a bargain this year and next when the Angels are paying him a total of $28 million. But that just makes the back end of the deal more dangerous. Check back in 2017 when he's 37 years old and the Angels still owe him $140 million over the next five years. He'll likely be No. 1 on this list.

That was #7 copied and pasted from the linked article. Last that I remember from 3/4th grade math...
$28 million divided by 2 years is $14 million a year. I guess this could have changed within our crack educational system...especially with NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND (in our ghettos of course).

However, the numerical replacement for el Honery on the Cardinal roster has 28 home runs and 83 RBIs. Right NOW.  And he only signed up for two years. Chances are good that he'll re-ink for a couple of more if he shows continued production. Pujols can go jump into the Pacific and take that little smart-ass wife with him.

Just because he is getting 28 million over the next 2 years doesn't mean it is 14 million both years.  ESPN says he is getting 12 million this year which means he would be getting 16 million next year.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4574/albert-pujols

If I remember correctly, Beltran has an amazing April, but has been average since then when Pujols has decided to turn it on.  I'm tired of arguing Pujols with you.  He could average .400/60/150 for the remainder of his contract and you would still say it was a good thing that the Cards didn't sign him.

[ErieHog]

Just because he is getting 28 million over the next 2 years doesn't mean it is 14 million both years.  ESPN says he is getting 12 million this year which means he would be getting 16 million next year.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4574/albert-pujols

If I remember correctly, Beltran has an amazing April, but has been average since then when Pujols has decided to turn it on.  I'm tired of arguing Pujols with you.  He could average .400/60/150 for the remainder of his contract and you would still say it was a good thing that the Cards didn't sign him.

Math is hard.  So are facts.   

[Root66]

Just because he is getting 28 million over the next 2 years doesn't mean it is 14 million both years.  ESPN says he is getting 12 million this year which means he would be getting 16 million next year.

What? You pissed off because of my thoughts on that lying POS Pujols? You know...it's NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. IT WAS ABOUT THE MONEY.

Yeah, pal. I figure Pujols is making $1 million this year and $27 mil next year. Or it could be 13,246,989 this year and 14,753,011 next year...or it could be yada yada yada. Get a life.

[ucahogfan]

What? You pissed off because of my thoughts on that lying POS Pujols? You know...it's NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. IT WAS ABOUT THE MONEY.

Yeah, pal. I figure Pujols is making $1 million this year and $27 mil next year. Or it could be 13,246,989 this year and 14,753,011 next year...or it could be yada yada yada. Get a life.

I don't even care about your thoughts about Pujols.  You have a lot of anger about Pujols getting what he was owed so I guess you had some sort of shine dedicated to him.  If you are a typical Cards fan, I'm glad I root for the Braves.  I will admit I would be made if a player left for more money, but I wouldn't let the hate flow through me like you have with Pujols.  Here is a guy that won 3 MVPs and 2 WS as a Cardinal and you want to see him perish because he took the money that was owed to him for the last decade.  I just don't get it.

But hey, at least the Braves took care of Chipper and what he wanted.

[Root66]

I don't even care about your thoughts about Pujols.  You have a lot of anger about Pujols getting what he was owed so I guess you had some sort of shine dedicated to him.  If you are a typical Cards fan, I'm glad I root for the Braves.  I will admit I would be made if a player left for more money, but I wouldn't let the hate flow through me like you have with Pujols.  Here is a guy that won 3 MVPs and 2 WS as a Cardinal and you want to see him perish because he took the money that was owed to him for the last decade.  I just don't get it.

But hey, at least the Braves took care of Chipper and what he wanted.

Yeah, Chipper is TWICE, THREE times the human being that the lying a-hole Pujols is. And just think, with Chipper it obviously WASN'T about the money. 20 years with the SAME organization. In this day and age.

I just "hate" any and ALL LIARS.

[bsking]

Yeah, Chipper is TWICE, THREE times the human being that the lying a-hole Pujols is. And just think, with Chipper it obviously WASN'T about the money. 20 years with the SAME organization. In this day and age.

I just "hate" any and ALL LIARS.

You sure are self righteous.  I'd like to know, how many times have to spoken to Pujols?

[Root66]

You sure are self righteous.  I'd like to know, how many times have to spoken to Pujols?

And you are self goofy. I have no idea what that question means? How many times have to spoken to Pujols?
Do I time spoken times to el honree? Huh? Are you drinking, drugging or are you just that goofy?

[bsking]

And you are self goofy. I have no idea what that question means? How many times have to spoken to Pujols?
Do I time spoken times to el honree? Huh? Are you drinking, drugging or are you just that goofy?

How many times have YOU spoken to Pujols?

You play dumb really, really convincingly.

[Root66]

How many times have YOU spoken to Pujols?

You play dumb really, really convincingly.

Zilch and after reading your jabberwocky it's really easy to play dumb. Those would dumb down Albert Einstein.

[bsking]

Zilch and after reading your jabberwocky it's really easy to play dumb. Those would dumb down Albert Einstein.

So you call Pujols a POS, liar, a-hole, based on what exactly?  You've never talked to the man, probably never seen him closer than a hundred feet.

[Root66]

So you call Pujols a POS, liar, a-hole, based on what exactly?  You've never talked to the man, probably never seen him closer than a hundred feet.

Ask any Cardinals fan never mind. It just ain't worth the time.

[bsking]

Ask any Cardinals fan never mind. It just ain't worth the time.

Says the person with no reason whatsoever.

[Root66]

Says the person with no reason whatsoever.

You are more than slightly retarded.

[bsking]

You are more than slightly retarded.

Says the person who is still sobbing that he had to trash 4 #5 jerseys.

[Root66]

Says the person who is still sobbing that he had to trash 4 #5 jerseys.

Yep...Pujol's is a lying a$$-hole. You're just a little punk. I've never owned any Cardinal jersey. Those are for little twits such as yourself, trying to look cool.

"It's not about the money" Pujols. It was about the money. Piss ant couldn't carry Stan Musial's smelly jock strap.

[bsking]

Piss ant couldn't carry Stan Musial's smelly jock strap.

162 Game Averages:

Pujols: .325/.611/1.026   42 HR   126 RBI    8 SB     7.32 WAR
Musial: .331/.559/.976    25 HR   104 RBI    4 SB     5.61 WAR

Tell me you aren't blinded by your hate.

[clutch]

Good God. I've been a lifelong Cardinals fan and I was sad to see Albert go, but I wouldn't classify him as a scumbag POS for signing with another team. It's a business. People change jobs all the time.