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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #43250 on: November 26, 2012, 08:41:36 am »

Give me Gruden or give me death!

Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem!!  :)
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« Reply #43251 on: November 26, 2012, 08:50:16 am »

Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem!!  :)

Hmmm..  Let me think about that.. lol
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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #43252 on: November 26, 2012, 09:55:40 am »

It's still Gruden. Don't sweat these powertrippin folks here. #agenda or #pride?
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« Reply #43253 on: November 26, 2012, 09:58:28 am »

I would be disappointed if it were Gruden. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
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« Reply #43254 on: November 26, 2012, 10:02:21 am »

I would be disappointed if it were Gruden. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
why? you should research the man a bit. He's a genius, full of charisma, and nobody outworks the grude.
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« Reply #43255 on: November 26, 2012, 10:10:55 am »

why? you should research the man a bit. He's a genius, full of charisma, and nobody outworks the grude.


He's never been a college coach and I saw his work in the NFL, Billick is as good as Grude.
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« Reply #43256 on: November 26, 2012, 10:28:53 am »


He's never been a college coach and I saw his work in the NFL, Billick is as good as Grude.
yeah, i bet Bill Clinton couldn't hack it as a mayor. he's never done it at THAT level.

I agree Billick is solid but he's no Gruden.
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« Reply #43257 on: November 26, 2012, 12:12:48 pm »

Then why did he post a mediocre record in the NFL and why hasn't he been hired by another team?


Yeah Scott.  Super Bowls are the hallmark of a mediocre coach.....
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« Reply #43258 on: November 26, 2012, 12:26:28 pm »

As I said, if he's such a football genius he wouldn't have spent four years on the shelf.
he's turned down probably a dozen jobs since then, lol. YOU should research the man, too... wit yer purdy lil bowtie ;D
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« Reply #43259 on: November 26, 2012, 12:33:19 pm »

he's turned down probably a dozen jobs since then, lol. YOU should research the man, too... wit yer purdy lil bowtie ;D

Yeah. you are right about the dozen or so jobs... we know about.....lol
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« Reply #43260 on: November 26, 2012, 12:36:21 pm »


Yeah Scott.  Super Bowls are the hallmark of a mediocre coach.....


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...
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« Reply #43261 on: November 26, 2012, 12:44:31 pm »


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...

I am totally aware of how that transpired.  I was in Tampa at the time.  I also realized however,  that this change added that new dimension -- an offense.  The defense however was Monte Kiffin's.  Dungy was an awesome character person and he did make the team what it was character-wise.
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« Reply #43262 on: November 26, 2012, 12:49:21 pm »

I am totally aware of how that transpired.  I was in Tampa at the time.  I also realized however,  that this change added that new dimension -- an offense.  The defense however was Monte Kiffin's.  Dungy was an awesome character person and he did make the team what it was character-wise.


Look, Gruden just isn't that great a coach. He's a personality (one that grates on me intensely) more than anything. He wasn't a poor coach, obviously, but like I've been saying he's no better than Brian Billick and I haven't seen any Hog fans all breathless and in a lather for Billick.

The whole Gruden thing doesn't compute for me from a college football perspective.
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« Reply #43263 on: November 26, 2012, 12:56:20 pm »


Look, Gruden just isn't that great a coach. He's a personality (one that grates on me intensely) more than anything. He wasn't a poor coach, obviously, but like I've been saying he's no better than Brian Billick and I haven't seen any Hog fans all breathless and in a lather for Billick.

The whole Gruden thing doesn't compute for me from a college football perspective.

I am not sure what he could do as an actual offensive brain-thrust,  but his enthusiasm and name recognition is definitely not his short-comings.  And with the right staff,  he could be a big recruiting guy. 
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« Reply #43264 on: November 26, 2012, 12:56:24 pm »

Gruden's THE BEST coach out there, imo.
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« Reply #43265 on: November 26, 2012, 12:57:00 pm »

I am not sure what he could do as an actual offensive brain-thrust,  but his enthusiasm and name recognition is definitely not his short-comings.  And with the right staff,  he could be a big recruiting guy.
the staff will be awesome!
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« Reply #43266 on: November 26, 2012, 01:25:00 pm »


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...

Rich Gannon was awesome.
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« Reply #43267 on: November 26, 2012, 01:29:53 pm »

Rich Gannon was awesome.

He did have a couple of good years...
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« Reply #43268 on: November 26, 2012, 02:41:42 pm »


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...
Maybe you can help remind me but how good were those teams in Tampa? Were they offensive or defensive teams?
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« Reply #43269 on: November 26, 2012, 03:29:43 pm »

Dungy sucked.  Sorry to tell you that, but I was there in Tampa at the time and for all those painful years of almost before they got rid of him.  The defense was all Monte Kiffin.  The offense sucked.  The only reason that the Bucs won the Super Bowl is that Gruden came in and added what Dungy couldn't.  Look how long it took Dungy to finally win it all at Indy with that team.  He was blessed with one of the greatest QB/coaches ever and he still managed to keep them down for a really long time.
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« Reply #43270 on: November 26, 2012, 04:00:12 pm »

Dungy sucked.  Sorry to tell you that, but I was there in Tampa at the time and for all those painful years of almost before they got rid of him.  The defense was all Monte Kiffin.  The offense sucked.  The only reason that the Bucs won the Super Bowl is that Gruden came in and added what Dungy couldn't.  Look how long it took Dungy to finally win it all at Indy with that team.  He was blessed with one of the greatest QB/coaches ever and he still managed to keep them down for a really long time.


When he got to Indy they had a poor defense.  He built it up until it was good enough.

But my Patriots were a big road block to their playoff hopes for a good while, much to my liking.
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« Reply #43271 on: November 26, 2012, 04:08:42 pm »

Dungy sucked.  Sorry to tell you that, but I was there in Tampa at the time and for all those painful years of almost before they got rid of him.  The defense was all Monte Kiffin.  The offense sucked.  The only reason that the Bucs won the Super Bowl is that Gruden came in and added what Dungy couldn't.  Look how long it took Dungy to finally win it all at Indy with that team.  He was blessed with one of the greatest QB/coaches ever and he still managed to keep them down for a really long time.


He had a better record at Tampa than Gruden.

Dungy at Tampa 54-42, .563

Gruden at Tampa 57-55, .509

Dungy overall NFL record 139-69, .668, 6 division titles, 1 super bowl win

Gruden overall NFL record  95-81, .540, 5 division titles, 1 super bowl win


Yeah, Tony Dungy sucks...
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« Reply #43272 on: November 26, 2012, 04:30:47 pm »


He had a better record at Tampa than Gruden.

Dungy at Tampa 54-42, .563

Gruden at Tampa 57-55, .509

Dungy overall NFL record 139-69, .668, 6 division titles, 1 super bowl win

Gruden overall NFL record  95-81, .540, 5 division titles, 1 super bowl win


Yeah, Tony Dungy sucks...
Which one had Peyton Manning?
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« Reply #43273 on: November 26, 2012, 04:37:23 pm »

Which one had Peyton Manning?
Dungy is a good coach but he's no Jon Gruden.
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« Reply #43274 on: November 26, 2012, 04:39:57 pm »

Which one had Peyton Manning?


You mean Mr. Regular Season Stat Juggernaut? That Peyton Manning?  That would be Dungy.
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« Reply #43275 on: November 26, 2012, 04:40:27 pm »

Dungy is a good coach but he's no Jon Gruden.


High comedy right here!
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« Reply #43276 on: November 26, 2012, 04:55:09 pm »

Dungy is a good coach but he's no Jon Gruden.
They are both good coaches but I believe Dungy is a better coach.
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« Reply #43277 on: November 26, 2012, 05:19:07 pm »


High comedy right here!


Chuckie is definitely better........
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« Reply #43278 on: November 26, 2012, 05:22:25 pm »


Chuckie is definitely better........

More comedy!
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« Reply #43280 on: November 26, 2012, 05:43:34 pm »


Chuckie is definitely better........
Just curious why you feel that way?
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« Reply #43281 on: November 26, 2012, 05:47:34 pm »

Just curious why you feel that way?

I am sensitive!!!!
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« Reply #43282 on: November 26, 2012, 06:18:18 pm »

Basically, Gruden is Wade Phillips (.570 winning percentage) with a Super Bowl ring.


Gruden will win 5 NC w/ Ark :)
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« Reply #43283 on: November 26, 2012, 06:28:20 pm »

Gruden will win 5 NC w/ Ark :)
Really? Based on all those national titles he has from the MNF booth?  ;D
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« Reply #43284 on: November 26, 2012, 06:30:11 pm »

Hey Filipina, you need to come across the street
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« Reply #43285 on: November 26, 2012, 06:31:44 pm »

Really? Based on all those national titles he has from the MNF booth?  ;D


He looks like Chuckie! 
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« Reply #43286 on: November 26, 2012, 06:33:52 pm »

Stop deludin' with all this talk of Gruden.
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« Reply #43287 on: November 26, 2012, 06:38:15 pm »

I am colludin with Gruden even as we speak. Selah
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« Reply #43288 on: November 26, 2012, 06:38:16 pm »

Hey Filipina, you need to come across the street
Don't do it Filipina!!! It is a trick!
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« Reply #43289 on: November 26, 2012, 06:38:59 pm »

I am colludin with Gruden even as we speak. Selah
Does his wife know? Is "colludin" code for taking a drive on a Harley?
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« Reply #43290 on: November 26, 2012, 06:40:13 pm »

Don't do it Filipina!!! It is a trick!

I was kind of......... confused
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« Reply #43291 on: November 26, 2012, 06:42:13 pm »

Does his wife know? Is "colludin" code for taking a drive on a Harley?

ConGrudenous say Hog with No Boar  wins football games no more
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« Reply #43292 on: November 26, 2012, 06:45:08 pm »

ConGrudenous say Hog with No Boar  wins football games no more
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« Reply #43294 on: November 26, 2012, 07:20:02 pm »


He had a better record at Tampa than Gruden.

Dungy at Tampa 54-42, .563

Gruden at Tampa 57-55, .509

Dungy overall NFL record 139-69, .668, 6 division titles, 1 super bowl win

Gruden overall NFL record  95-81, .540, 5 division titles, 1 super bowl win


Yeah, Tony Dungy sucks...

Stats don't tell the story.  If you don't understand what happened with TB after the SB then you just don't understand the difficulty of managing an aging, highly paid roster in the NFL.  That is where Gruden and Allen did a bad job of that (not coaching) not to mention the complete collapse of Martine Gramatica.  Then there was a decent season where things were looking up with the Bucs winning the division followed by a season with a horrible string of injuries to players like Simeon Rice and Cadillac Williams.  There never was a decent QB acquisition.  These are not coaching failures.
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« Reply #43295 on: November 26, 2012, 11:21:37 pm »

Gruden will win 5 NC w/ Ark :)
OK Filipina...IF Grude cud win 5 NC here...How many would Cowher win? If Grude went to Tenn and Cowher came here, who win head to head? Vice versa? Just asking your thoughts, dear dont think either will happen, but WHAT IF? :)
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« Reply #43296 on: November 27, 2012, 09:17:10 am »

To Gruden or not to Gruden,  that is the question..   <something like that>  lol
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« Reply #43297 on: November 27, 2012, 09:28:45 am »

Gruden said during the game last night:

"THAT is why I love PRO football. Every year you find a new star!"
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« Reply #43298 on: November 27, 2012, 09:33:43 am »

Gruden said during the game last night:

"THAT is why I love PRO football. Every year you find a new star!"


That has got to be your abridged version of what he said because that windbag has never put forth less than a catastrophic avalanche of words any time his mouth opens, which is for most of the broadcast.
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« Reply #43299 on: November 27, 2012, 11:29:48 am »

Man it feels grude to be a grudesta.
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