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If Jeff Long doesn't even attempt to get Jon Gruden:

  • He should be fired, because he didn't even try to talk to Him. - - 428 (31.4%)
  • He did the right thing because Jon Gruden is not a fit for us - - 87 (6.4%)
  • Jon Gruden is such a stretch for us that Jeff shouldn't even waste his time - - 151 (11.1%)
  • Jeff is the right man for the job regardless what he does. - - 598 (43.8%)
  • I just want Jeff Long fired period. - - 100 (7.3%)

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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #42050 on: November 23, 2012, 01:48:52 pm »

Could it be!!!!
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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #42051 on: November 23, 2012, 02:29:04 pm »

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« Reply #42052 on: November 23, 2012, 06:45:30 pm »

Alls grud that ends Grud!
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« Reply #42053 on: November 23, 2012, 06:55:12 pm »

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« Reply #42054 on: November 23, 2012, 07:08:00 pm »

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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #42055 on: November 23, 2012, 07:32:09 pm »

No chance
The cost of screwing with the Grude is one kiss.  The azz is a preferable location.  :)
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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #42056 on: November 23, 2012, 07:41:23 pm »

935 pages, 430,484 reads, and 42,073 replies.  Wow.  Gruden, if he is not the coach, has missed out.
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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #42057 on: November 23, 2012, 07:47:23 pm »

Call me Special Agent Mulder..."I want to believe!"
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Re: All Things Gruden--MERGED
« Reply #42058 on: November 23, 2012, 08:33:37 pm »

I still believe it is Gruden! 
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« Reply #42059 on: November 23, 2012, 09:59:38 pm »

I still believe it is Gruden! 

Well you know as much as any other poster,  football gurus,  sportwriters or moderators on this board.   ha!!!!
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« Reply #42060 on: November 23, 2012, 10:47:42 pm »

Gruden, Gruden, Gruden!!!!!
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« Reply #42061 on: November 24, 2012, 11:34:34 am »

Give me Gruden or give me death!
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« Reply #42062 on: November 26, 2012, 08:41:36 am »

Give me Gruden or give me death!

Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem!!  :)
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« Reply #42063 on: November 26, 2012, 08:50:16 am »

Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem!!  :)

Hmmm..  Let me think about that.. lol
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« Reply #42064 on: November 26, 2012, 09:55:40 am »

It's still Gruden. Don't sweat these powertrippin folks here. #agenda or #pride?
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« Reply #42065 on: November 26, 2012, 09:58:28 am »

I would be disappointed if it were Gruden. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
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« Reply #42066 on: November 26, 2012, 10:02:21 am »

I would be disappointed if it were Gruden. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
why? you should research the man a bit. He's a genius, full of charisma, and nobody outworks the grude.
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« Reply #42067 on: November 26, 2012, 10:10:55 am »

why? you should research the man a bit. He's a genius, full of charisma, and nobody outworks the grude.


He's never been a college coach and I saw his work in the NFL, Billick is as good as Grude.
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« Reply #42068 on: November 26, 2012, 10:28:53 am »


He's never been a college coach and I saw his work in the NFL, Billick is as good as Grude.
yeah, i bet Bill Clinton couldn't hack it as a mayor. he's never done it at THAT level.

I agree Billick is solid but he's no Gruden.
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« Reply #42069 on: November 26, 2012, 12:06:06 pm »

why? you should research the man a bit. He's a genius, full of charisma, and nobody outworks the grude.

Then why did he post a mediocre record in the NFL and why hasn't he been hired by another team?
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« Reply #42070 on: November 26, 2012, 12:12:48 pm »

Then why did he post a mediocre record in the NFL and why hasn't he been hired by another team?


Yeah Scott.  Super Bowls are the hallmark of a mediocre coach.....
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« Reply #42071 on: November 26, 2012, 12:21:17 pm »


Yeah Scott.  Super Bowls are the hallmark of a mediocre coach.....

As I said, if he's such a football genius he wouldn't have spent four years on the shelf.

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« Reply #42072 on: November 26, 2012, 12:26:28 pm »

As I said, if he's such a football genius he wouldn't have spent four years on the shelf.
he's turned down probably a dozen jobs since then, lol. YOU should research the man, too... wit yer purdy lil bowtie ;D
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« Reply #42073 on: November 26, 2012, 12:31:33 pm »

he's turned down probably a dozen jobs since then, lol. YOU should research the man, too... wit yer purdy lil bowtie ;D

He's turned down a dozen NFL jobs in four years, but he's going to take the Arkansas job? Makes sense.
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« Reply #42074 on: November 26, 2012, 12:33:19 pm »

he's turned down probably a dozen jobs since then, lol. YOU should research the man, too... wit yer purdy lil bowtie ;D

Yeah. you are right about the dozen or so jobs... we know about.....lol
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« Reply #42075 on: November 26, 2012, 12:36:21 pm »


Yeah Scott.  Super Bowls are the hallmark of a mediocre coach.....


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...
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« Reply #42076 on: November 26, 2012, 12:44:31 pm »


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...

I am totally aware of how that transpired.  I was in Tampa at the time.  I also realized however,  that this change added that new dimension -- an offense.  The defense however was Monte Kiffin's.  Dungy was an awesome character person and he did make the team what it was character-wise.
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« Reply #42077 on: November 26, 2012, 12:49:21 pm »

I am totally aware of how that transpired.  I was in Tampa at the time.  I also realized however,  that this change added that new dimension -- an offense.  The defense however was Monte Kiffin's.  Dungy was an awesome character person and he did make the team what it was character-wise.


Look, Gruden just isn't that great a coach. He's a personality (one that grates on me intensely) more than anything. He wasn't a poor coach, obviously, but like I've been saying he's no better than Brian Billick and I haven't seen any Hog fans all breathless and in a lather for Billick.

The whole Gruden thing doesn't compute for me from a college football perspective.
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« Reply #42078 on: November 26, 2012, 12:56:20 pm »


Look, Gruden just isn't that great a coach. He's a personality (one that grates on me intensely) more than anything. He wasn't a poor coach, obviously, but like I've been saying he's no better than Brian Billick and I haven't seen any Hog fans all breathless and in a lather for Billick.

The whole Gruden thing doesn't compute for me from a college football perspective.

I am not sure what he could do as an actual offensive brain-thrust,  but his enthusiasm and name recognition is definitely not his short-comings.  And with the right staff,  he could be a big recruiting guy. 
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« Reply #42079 on: November 26, 2012, 12:56:24 pm »

Gruden's THE BEST coach out there, imo.
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« Reply #42080 on: November 26, 2012, 12:57:00 pm »

I am not sure what he could do as an actual offensive brain-thrust,  but his enthusiasm and name recognition is definitely not his short-comings.  And with the right staff,  he could be a big recruiting guy.
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« Reply #42081 on: November 26, 2012, 01:25:00 pm »


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...

Rich Gannon was awesome.
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« Reply #42082 on: November 26, 2012, 01:29:53 pm »

Rich Gannon was awesome.

He did have a couple of good years...
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« Reply #42083 on: November 26, 2012, 02:41:42 pm »


Should read "super bowl" is the hallmark of a coach who follows Tony Dungy, the architect of two super bowl winners with two different organizations... if we're being honest.

And in the spirit of honesty, Gruden was the architect of a losing super bowl participant, you know, that team he built that he beat with the team Dungy built...
Maybe you can help remind me but how good were those teams in Tampa? Were they offensive or defensive teams?
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« Reply #42084 on: November 26, 2012, 03:29:43 pm »

Dungy sucked.  Sorry to tell you that, but I was there in Tampa at the time and for all those painful years of almost before they got rid of him.  The defense was all Monte Kiffin.  The offense sucked.  The only reason that the Bucs won the Super Bowl is that Gruden came in and added what Dungy couldn't.  Look how long it took Dungy to finally win it all at Indy with that team.  He was blessed with one of the greatest QB/coaches ever and he still managed to keep them down for a really long time.
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« Reply #42085 on: November 26, 2012, 04:00:12 pm »

Dungy sucked.  Sorry to tell you that, but I was there in Tampa at the time and for all those painful years of almost before they got rid of him.  The defense was all Monte Kiffin.  The offense sucked.  The only reason that the Bucs won the Super Bowl is that Gruden came in and added what Dungy couldn't.  Look how long it took Dungy to finally win it all at Indy with that team.  He was blessed with one of the greatest QB/coaches ever and he still managed to keep them down for a really long time.


When he got to Indy they had a poor defense.  He built it up until it was good enough.

But my Patriots were a big road block to their playoff hopes for a good while, much to my liking.
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« Reply #42086 on: November 26, 2012, 04:08:42 pm »

Dungy sucked.  Sorry to tell you that, but I was there in Tampa at the time and for all those painful years of almost before they got rid of him.  The defense was all Monte Kiffin.  The offense sucked.  The only reason that the Bucs won the Super Bowl is that Gruden came in and added what Dungy couldn't.  Look how long it took Dungy to finally win it all at Indy with that team.  He was blessed with one of the greatest QB/coaches ever and he still managed to keep them down for a really long time.


He had a better record at Tampa than Gruden.

Dungy at Tampa 54-42, .563

Gruden at Tampa 57-55, .509

Dungy overall NFL record 139-69, .668, 6 division titles, 1 super bowl win

Gruden overall NFL record  95-81, .540, 5 division titles, 1 super bowl win


Yeah, Tony Dungy sucks...
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« Reply #42087 on: November 26, 2012, 04:30:47 pm »


He had a better record at Tampa than Gruden.

Dungy at Tampa 54-42, .563

Gruden at Tampa 57-55, .509

Dungy overall NFL record 139-69, .668, 6 division titles, 1 super bowl win

Gruden overall NFL record  95-81, .540, 5 division titles, 1 super bowl win


Yeah, Tony Dungy sucks...
Which one had Peyton Manning?
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« Reply #42088 on: November 26, 2012, 04:37:23 pm »

Which one had Peyton Manning?
Dungy is a good coach but he's no Jon Gruden.
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« Reply #42089 on: November 26, 2012, 04:39:57 pm »

Which one had Peyton Manning?


You mean Mr. Regular Season Stat Juggernaut? That Peyton Manning?  That would be Dungy.
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« Reply #42090 on: November 26, 2012, 04:40:27 pm »

Dungy is a good coach but he's no Jon Gruden.


High comedy right here!
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« Reply #42091 on: November 26, 2012, 04:55:09 pm »

Dungy is a good coach but he's no Jon Gruden.
They are both good coaches but I believe Dungy is a better coach.
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« Reply #42092 on: November 26, 2012, 05:19:07 pm »


High comedy right here!


Chuckie is definitely better........
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« Reply #42093 on: November 26, 2012, 05:22:25 pm »


Chuckie is definitely better........

More comedy!
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« Reply #42095 on: November 26, 2012, 05:43:34 pm »


Chuckie is definitely better........
Just curious why you feel that way?
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« Reply #42096 on: November 26, 2012, 05:47:34 pm »

Just curious why you feel that way?

I am sensitive!!!!
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« Reply #42097 on: November 26, 2012, 05:47:43 pm »


He had a better record at Tampa than Gruden.

Dungy at Tampa 54-42, .563

Gruden at Tampa 57-55, .509

Dungy overall NFL record 139-69, .668, 6 division titles, 1 super bowl win

Gruden overall NFL record  95-81, .540, 5 division titles, 1 super bowl win


Yeah, Tony Dungy sucks...

Basically, Gruden is Wade Phillips (.570 winning percentage) with a Super Bowl ring.
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« Reply #42098 on: November 26, 2012, 06:18:18 pm »

Basically, Gruden is Wade Phillips (.570 winning percentage) with a Super Bowl ring.


Gruden will win 5 NC w/ Ark :)
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« Reply #42099 on: November 26, 2012, 06:28:20 pm »

Gruden will win 5 NC w/ Ark :)
Really? Based on all those national titles he has from the MNF booth?  ;D
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