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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2012, 09:23:14 am »

Heck, even if someone found bones, the only thing they would recognize as coming from a bigfoot would be the skull.  As noted, skeletons of dead animals are scattered very quickly and if someone found a three foot long bone from the upper leg of a bigfoot, they woudn't recognized it as a bigfoot bone, they would just think it was a cow bone or something like that.  Only someone who actually knew about bones would make the connection.  So, who knows?   There may have been plenty of bones found already.

As noted, there are thousands of reports every year and there are reports going all the way back to the 1600s made by white men.  Even if a big percentage of those are mistakes or hoaxes, there are still a lot of people seeing something out there.
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« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2012, 01:25:36 pm »

all you would have to do is put cameras around your house to keep the other bigfoots away.

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2012, 05:30:06 pm »

I have researched this subject quite a bit...being as that when I was in my early teens I saw something that to this day I can't explain as logical.  When you see something that defies logic, and it doesn't make sense in your head you research it to find the answer. 

I can't say 100% these creatures do exist because I'm not 100% sure what I saw, but if you really research this subject you can find some very compelling stuff.  I for sure have an open mind to the subject.  Their are people a lot more intelligent and have done a million times the research that I have who firmly believe these things exist.

Plain and simple...only way it will ever be proven beyond a doubt is if someone puts a bullet through ones skull...and only way any sane person would ever do that is if their life was truly threatened. 
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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2012, 05:50:07 pm »

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2012, 05:57:57 pm »

how many more people see them but don't want the head ache of reporting them and hearing the jokes . how many officers would take you serious. i knew a guy who reported seeing one. first he had to take a breathalyzer then a polygraph . by the time he finished he was so mad he told them to go find it theirselves . he was the type guy not to lie or make stuff up. whatever it was it scared him pretty bad . you could hear it in his voice when he talked .
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« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2012, 06:17:44 pm »

Y'all may or may not remember the rash of sightings in western Craighead County Southwest of Jonesboro back in the mid/late '80s but there were many credible witnesses.

I heard about it from friends at home while I was stationed in Michigan in the Air Force and even read about it in USA Today.  People were really convinced it was the real deal.  Nelson Catalina, the head coach of ASU's basketball team at the time was an eyewitness to the thing as it ran across the road, stopped and looked right at his vehicle and then continued across and into the woods on Hwy 349 between Hwy 226 and Hwy 18. He was interviewed about it.

Every eyewitness that saw it said there was no way it was a man in a suit, describing how the movement and proportions were not human.

But they were all wrong.  Turns out, it was 3 good ol' boys who were a couple of years behind me in high school, all well known by me, who'd had a costume made by an aunt of one of the boys and they took turns wearing it and doing their thing in various locations.

Just because we see it and believe it, doesn't make it real.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2012, 06:25:03 pm »



Well.....if a Bigfoot is ever killed or captured in Arkansas........

The AGFC will claim that it's somebody's pet that got loose......

& there is not enough of them here to reproduce......
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2012, 07:41:03 pm »

finding bigfoot on tonight. those people are scared to death of finding anything.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2012, 07:53:11 pm »


Well.....if a Bigfoot is ever killed or captured in Arkansas........

The AGFC will claim that it's somebody's pet that got loose......
& there is not enough of them here to reproduce......

Yep. Also bet if you brought in a black panther they would tell you it was just some domesticated kitty that had strayed away from its home. 
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« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2012, 10:25:35 pm »

I really want to suit up in a bigfoot costume and screw with a few people on my lease. But they would shoot me and try to eat me.


+1 to quite a few of you for the hilarious posts
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« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2012, 11:24:29 pm »

I really want to suit up in a bigfoot costume and screw with a few people on my lease. But they would shoot me and try to eat me.


+1 to quite a few of you for the hilarious posts

Yeah.......this crossed my mind also.  But I figured one of the lousy marksmen on our lease that misses almost everything they shoot at.......would suddenly turn out to be a crack shot when they draw down on the.... "Fake Bigfoot".....

Heck, I am even afraid to get one of those ..."Gillie Suit's".....probably get shot right off my 4-wheeler....
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2012, 03:33:08 pm »

There is a thread on this subject on Arkansashunting.net.  It is approaching 300 pages!  I must admit, I have read a lot of the posts.  Some are just silly, and some make you go, hmm.

The original poster claims there are several groups across Arkansas; Saline River Bottoms, Western Ouachitas near Mena, Winona WMA, Ozarks north of Clarksville....

http://www.arkansashunting.net/showthread.php?t=66703
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 03:38:08 pm by buckyhog »
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« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2012, 03:37:40 pm »

There is a thread on this subject on Arkansashunting.net.  It is approaching 300 pages!  I must admit, I have read a lot of the posts.  Some are just silly, and some make you go, hmm.

http://www.arkansashunting.net/showthread.php?t=66703


Any stuff in there about the Craighead County sightings in the '80s?
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« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2012, 03:39:38 pm »


Any stuff in there about the Craighead County sightings in the '80s?

I do believe it has been discussed.  Tal, is the OP, and he believes almost all reports are real.  Go give it a read.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2012, 03:50:17 pm »

Just because we see it and believe it, doesn't make it real.

The counterpoint being one set of hoaxers, or even 1,000  hoaxers, does not invalidate every alleged signing.
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« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2012, 03:59:22 pm »

The counterpoint being one set of hoaxers, or even 1,000  hoaxers, does not invalidate every alleged signing.

Agreed, I'm uncertain on the subject.  Have a feeling that most of what has been seen is probably hoaxed, but it's possible the first and all subsequent hoaxes were spurred by the reality of it all.

I'm left to wonder in the absence of empirical evidence.
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« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2012, 04:44:47 pm »

Other than the Pacific Northwest, the hottest area in the country for bigfoot sightings is in the mountains in SE Oklahoma in McCurtain and LeFlore counties.  That is just right there.  All that country is also drained by Little River.  So, hypothetically, a wandering bigfoot could travel down Little River, the Rolling Fork, Cossatot, or Saline from the mountains of Oklahoma and Arkansas be right in the heart of SW Arkansas in a day or so.

If you've ever made the drive up 259 in Oklahoma, you know that if bigfoot is real, then if there is any place in the whole country where they would be, it is that part of the world.  That is the most rugged, wild, and unpopulated country between the Rocky Mountains and the east coast.  And on top of that, SW Arkansas is pretty sparsely populated as well.  The middle of a 600 acre pine plantation may as well be the dark side of the moon when it comes to people seeing it.  And there are millions of acres owned by Weyerhouser and other timber companies in SW Arkansas separate and apart from the Ouachita National forest.

So, I don't know if they are real or not, but there is something going on up there in Oklahoma.  They have tons of sightings every year and finding footprints is almost routine.
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« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2012, 10:04:25 pm »

If all of these researchers say they exist, why don't they rent a helicopter with a thermal imaging unit and scan every square mile around where the most sightings are reported?  Always blows my mind...more money in research than to say we can't find bigfoot he must be in his cave year 'round.  ::)
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« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2012, 11:58:29 pm »

If all of these researchers say they exist, why don't they rent a helicopter with a thermal imaging unit and scan every square mile around where the most sightings are reported?  Always blows my mind...more money in research than to say we can't find bigfoot he must be in his cave year 'round.  ::)

Because it's about as effective method as calculating the amount of water in a lake,  then taking a 5 gallon bucked in waist deep, and bailing water repeatedly until hitting the magic number, to prove there are fish.
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« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2012, 11:04:28 am »

i do agree there is something out there. i pose this question for hunters . how many bobcats have you seen other than crossing a road . and yet we know they are plentiful . foxes too. these animals could live a similar existance to a bear. few people see bears or find remains but we have more than folks realize. my father worked in oregon as a high lead logger back in the 60's and they found tracks . whatever it was threw 4 55 gallon drums of fuel down in a ravine. it didn't roll them it picked them up and threw them . several of the loggers quit the job because that stuff kept happening. every morning when they drove in things would be broken or destroyed.


I think you answered your own question.  even though the animals you list above are not often seen, they are indeed seen.  I've see several bobcat, fox and bear.  If these things were real, there would be hard evidence.  with phones today that prctically all have cameras, no way some people would not get pics.  creepy story about the stuff being thrown around, but I just guess I don't believe.
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« Reply #70 on: January 25, 2012, 11:10:25 am »


I think you answered your own question.  even though the animals you list above are not often seen, they are indeed seen.  I've see several bobcat, fox and bear.  If these things were real, there would be hard evidence.  with phones today that prctically all have cameras, no way some people would not get pics.  creepy story about the stuff being thrown around, but I just guess I don't believe.

Bobcat = 20 lbs

Bigfoot = 250 lbs.




They would have been seen.
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« Reply #71 on: January 25, 2012, 11:39:30 am »

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If these things were real, there would be hard evidence.  with phones today that prctically all have cameras, no way some people would not get pics.  creepy story about the stuff being thrown around, but I just guess I don't believe.

There are hundreds of reports every year, so apparently they are seen.  When someone does manage to get a picture, and there are dozens taken every year, people always say that it could be a man in a suit or otherwise faked.  No one believes the witnesses or the pictures, because Bigfoot doesn't exist and therefore, the people have to be lying or mistaken and the pictures have to be faked or something else.

I don't know for sure one way or the other.  But people see things they thing ar bigfoot everyday and there are lots of pictures taken.
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« Reply #72 on: January 25, 2012, 11:57:19 am »

The interwebz are making sorting through the veracity of claims harder and more suspect.  Look at all the pics of mtn lions that were captured on game cams in Arkansas and then go find the same pics attributed to Dakota, Kansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Maryland, Kentucky, Michigan, etc...
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« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2012, 01:16:22 pm »

There are hundreds of reports every year, so apparently they are seen.  When someone does manage to get a picture, and there are dozens taken every year, people always say that it could be a man in a suit or otherwise faked.  No one believes the witnesses or the pictures, because Bigfoot doesn't exist and therefore, the people have to be lying or mistaken and the pictures have to be faked or something else.

I don't know for sure one way or the other.  But people see things they thing ar bigfoot everyday and there are lots of pictures taken.

Where are these pictures? I haven't seen any.
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« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2012, 01:50:05 pm »

Where are these pictures? I haven't seen any.

They're all over the internet.  Some are obvious fakes, others maybe not.  And of course there is the Patterson film.  If that is a fake, it looks better than just about anything Holywood can do to this day.
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« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2012, 02:14:08 pm »

If the film is fake...


I don't think there is much question.
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« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2012, 02:15:38 pm »

If the film is fake...


I don't think there is much question.

Really?  Actually, it has never been proved as such.
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« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2012, 03:50:44 pm »

Part of the reason the Patterson footage is still talked about 50 years later is because it cannot be proved to be fake. I have watched more analysis of the Patterson footage than any other aspect of bigfoot evidence. This includes scientific test of the human ability to mimic that kind of a walk. All have proven that a man cannot move the way the Patterson creature does. Over all there is much more evidence to support that legitimacy of that film than to disprove it.

There are other videos that, while inconclusive, would of been nearly impossible to fake
The memorial day footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoEZ9dpvgv0&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL9C2C5F2AE1417413
This one comes from a police officers camera in his car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzyTErYbkRs

There are thousands of fakes, but there are alot of pictures and videos that have just as well of a chance of being real, the two above are also famous, not because they show conclusive evidence, but because the liklyhood of it being a fake seems improbable
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« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2012, 04:09:02 pm »

I saw a show about that Memorial Day footage.  They put a collegiate cross country runner in a suit to see if he could run that space in the same amount of time and he damn near killed himself falling all over the place in the suit.  Then they let him run it in shorts and shoes as he would normally and he still couldn't run it as fast as the figure in the video.

That said, that video looks like a dude running to me.
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« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2012, 12:19:28 am »

Save the jokes, this is a semi serious question. 

Have you or anyone you trust ever seen anything that might lead you to believe they exist?

I only ask because I've never been a big believer.  I've never completely discounted the possibility but I couldn't be classified as a believer and I've certainly have never seen anything that was even close to making me think about a Bigfoot.

So, the reason for this question is that within the last year, two men that I know well, have known my entire life, and whom I trust explicitly have found/seen some things right here in SW Arkansas.  One of the men is in his 60s and the other is in his 70s. 

The one in his 60s is one of the best hunters I've ever known.  He is a self employed welder and he has practically spent his life hunting.  It probably isn't too much of an exaggeration to say that he has killed more deer than everyone on this board combined.  Last year, in the melting snow, he found two footprints.  I've seen the pictures.  They look like Bigfoot tracks to me.

The other man in his 70s is also a hunter and a logger.  As a logger, he spent practically everyday of his entire life in the woods and in some of the most remote country around.  If you've driven down a logging road in Ouachita foothills, chances are he logged the right-of-way.  So a few weeks ago, he saw right at daylight what he described as either a Bigfoot or the largest duckhunter he has ever seen standing in the middle of a river in about knee deep water about 150 yards away.  If it was a duckhunter, he was big, dressed in all brown, and had no cap on.  Oh, and he didn't have a gun either.  The funny thing is that when the Bigfoot/duckhunter saw him, he/it took two or three bounds right out of the river and out of sight.  If it was a duckhunter, he moved like no one the man has ever seen in waders and in knee deep water could.

So, there you have it.  Two guys who've seen everything there is to see in this part of the world, who are not prone to exaggeration, and who have never seen anything like what they've seen before.

Hawgon,

Was curious what river & area this was where the bigfoot was seen standing in the middle??

& where the footprints in the snow were located?
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« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2012, 09:02:42 am »

Really?  Actually, it has never been proved as such.

All it takes is 3 brain cells of common sense to tell that is a dude in a freaking ape costume lol.
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« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2012, 09:20:56 am »

All it takes is 3 brain cells of common sense to tell that is a dude in a freaking ape costume lol.

Really, with muscles under the skin and titties?
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« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2012, 09:40:41 am »

Steven Hill and Khole Kardashian must have been out camping again.

What does a Bigfoot live in? 

Do you think the Bigfoots like to mess with the Finding Bigfoot people?   Maybe they have their own Jack Links commercials  called 'Messin' with Whitey'.

IF Bigfoot does exist, then they are obviously smarter than your average human, which really ain't saying much, to go this long with out being discovered.

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« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2012, 11:19:46 am »

Really, with muscles under the skin and titties?

You cannot make that determination from the film.
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« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2012, 11:20:40 am »

What does a Bigfoot live in? 

Imaginations
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« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2012, 11:27:59 am »

You cannot make that determination from the film.

Absolutely you can.  You can see the titties flopping around and you can see the muscles ripple. 
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« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2012, 11:30:16 am »

Absolutely you can.  You can see the titties flopping around and you can see the muscles ripple. 

The film resolution is so low, you can't see his fingers or toes, but you can see his titties flopping and muscles ripple?

How do you see muscles underneath 3 inches of dog fur?
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« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2012, 11:37:51 am »

The film resolution is so low, you can't see his fingers or toes, but you can see his titties flopping and muscles ripple?

How do you see muscles underneath 3 inches of dog fur?

It ain't a he, that much is for sure.  Did you even watch the posted link or are you just spouting off as usual?
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« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2012, 12:32:20 pm »

It ain't a he, that much is for sure.  Did you even watch the posted link or are you just spouting off as usual?

Oh, so you can also make out a [CENSORED]?



You are arriving at some pretty substantial conclusions from some pretty awful footage.
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« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2012, 12:53:55 pm »

Oh, so you can also make out a [CENSORED]?



You are arriving at some pretty substantial conclusions from some pretty awful footage.

I see you ignored Reply #54 and the 12 minute analysis of the shaky film in order to make your point.  Pretty standard for you.
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« Reply #90 on: January 26, 2012, 01:03:59 pm »

I see you ignored Reply #54 and the 12 minute analysis of the shaky film in order to make your point.  Pretty standard for you.

I don't have time to watch that, i'm assuming however, it is 100% speculation.
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« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2012, 01:08:13 pm »

I don't have time to watch that, i'm assuming however, it is 100% speculation.

Well if you would quit ASSuming and watch enough of it to see film in a stabilized and slightly enlarged form, you would see titties swinging around.

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« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2012, 01:23:29 pm »

Well if you would quit ASSuming and watch enough of it to see film in a stabilized and slightly enlarged form, you would see titties swinging around.



So males of an unknown species of animal definitely do not have breasts as fat storing mechanisms. Also, females of this unknown species only have 2 breasts as well. Seems some people sure do know a lot about an UNKNOWN species of animal.




Now do you see why it's speculation?
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« Reply #93 on: January 26, 2012, 01:27:25 pm »

So males of an unknown species of animal definitely do not have breasts as fat storing mechanisms. Also, females of this unknown species only have 2 breasts as well. Seems some people sure do know a lot about an UNKNOWN species of animal.




Now do you see why it's speculation?

No, not really.  Some things are pretty much a given for primates.
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« Reply #94 on: January 26, 2012, 01:33:52 pm »

No, not really.  Some things are pretty much a given for primates.

Are they?

Another thing that is a given, aside from humans, they all live by the equator. Also they don't walk on 2 legs... and on... and on... and on.

For some reason the bigfoot hunters love speculation, but only when it suits their agenda.
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« Reply #95 on: January 26, 2012, 01:54:20 pm »

Are they?

Another thing that is a given, aside from humans, they all live by the equator. Also they don't walk on 2 legs... and on... and on... and on.

For some reason the bigfoot hunters love speculation, but only when it suits their agenda.

Yes, if they exist, they are obviously a primate.

But the fact is, you keep moving the ball.  "Where are the pictures and videos you demand?"  So, someone shows you some.  "Well, they are obviously fake", you say.  So, then someone points out that at least one of them is a very good fake with some really nice details if it is.  You retort, "You can see all that in that video?"  It is pointed out to you that you can see it in t he film if you watch a certain version of it.  You retort, "I'm not watching that.  I don't have time.  I ASSume it is speculation." 

So, now you have changed the entire situation to someone speculating the anatomical details of Bigfoot when the entire point is what anatomical details are visible on a piece of film YOU ADMIT TO NEVER WATCHING.

So really, just quit.  I understand you don't believe and you won't.  I don't know if I believe either.  But the thread was a decent thread before you messed it up with your usual asshattery.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #96 on: January 26, 2012, 02:02:40 pm »

But the fact is, you keep moving the ball. 

You are moving the ball around, I am not.


Who brought up ape-boobies.. you did

Who brought up this stupid video EVERYBODY in the world has seen 200000000 times.. you did

Who brought up that we somehow know this is a primate and it obeys conventional knowledge about primates, YOU DID.

Who brought up that the video is super high definition and didn't post a single screenshot, YOU DID.





Oh, but blame me lol. I'm here for an honest discussion, but you don't discuss anything, you just change the subject, and then, say i'm the one doing it???



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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #97 on: January 26, 2012, 02:27:39 pm »

My new fave thread.  ;-)

Anyone see that show on TLC a few years ago called "Bigfootville"?  It is still on every 2-3 months or so and it documents a TV reporter in OK (I think) that goes out into the woods for a few nights and hears / sees some pretty unexplainable things.  I love watching any and all BF shows and this was a pretty good one, IMO.

As far as the "Finding Bigfoot" goes, I've read on other BF forums that the lead investigator, Matt Moneymaker, is exactly what his name implies...someone looking to make a quick buck.  His reputation is called into question a lot on some of these other boards due to his BFRO website he runs, the "night tours" he hosts in various parts of the country and some of his less than "up & up" dealings w/other Bigfoot folks.  Granted, some of these other guys could just be crying over spilled milk but whose to say?

I look at "FBF" like I do "Ghost Adventures".  Very interesting to watch but the more I watch, the more skeptical I become....at least in the shows.

I've had a deep fascination with Bigfoot since Hollywood made him a TV star in the 70's on the "Six Million Dollar Man".  Leonard Nimoy did a good job as well featuring the sasquatches on "In Search Of".  Some of the stories you guys are retelling here are very interesting reads.  Keep bringing it...
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #98 on: January 26, 2012, 02:36:26 pm »

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Oh, but blame me lol. I'm here for an honest discussion, but you don't discuss anything, you just change the subject, and then, say i'm the one doing it???


Honest discussion?  Every single thread on the entire board in which you post, devolves into a juvenile pissing match. 
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #99 on: January 26, 2012, 03:22:00 pm »

devolves into a juvenile pissing match. 

*looks at thread title*


Dude it's a bigfoot thread. The notion that an animal, 8 feet tall living undetected in the woods is absurd. Their shelter alone would be easily spotted and investigated. It's absurd, 100%.
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