When did skin color and price tag trump resume and results in coaching searches.

[Coondog Hog]

If these are real factors in our DC search equation as stated by Bo & Clay there is a good chance we continue to come up short.  If true I am dissapointed in CBP snd Long.

[Cure]

Understand diversity. Even Les  Miles understands this.

[EastMemphisHog]

I doubt his skin color had anything to do with. Ridiculous

[Dominicanhog]

since football was started. White me have always had the advantage and been paid more. Oh!  you meant the other way.

[Fanofthegame]

Understand diversity. Even Les  Miles understands this.

^^^This +1^^^

[jamie72921]

Just heard talk of this myself.

If true, we just limited ourself to half of the available talent pool. It's the same as taking the espn top 150 and excluding half of them and then hoping to fill your recruiting class with nothing but these guys.

If this works out, it will just be dumb luck.

[jamie72921]

Understand diversity. Even Les  Miles understands this.

Diversity is about inclusion, not exclusion. Excluding people based on race is NOT diversity.

You people are brainwashed.

[grayhawg]

Diversity is about inclusion, not exclusion. Excluding people based on race is NOT diversity.

You people are brainwashed.

Where did the race thing come from?

[regi]

We can't recruit in the SEC with only one black coach on staff, period. Like it or not. As for price Tag, thank Gus

[BossHawgOutlaw]

Stan Heath was hired because of skin color it happens

[Cure]

Diversity is about inclusion, not exclusion. Excluding people based on race is NOT diversity.

You people are brainwashed.

The people who believe this process has any exclusion to this are the delusional ones. Clearly we want a qualified candidate, but that does not mean we are excluding anyone.  Diversity is needed on a staff, most understand that.

[HogScoutMaster]

If these are real factors in our DC search equation as stated by Bo & Clay there is a good chance we continue to come up short.  If true I am dissapointed in CBP snd Long.

since football was started. White me have always had the advantage and been paid more. Oh!  you meant the other way.

[jamie72921]

Where did the race thing come from?

It is being speculated on air right now that Arkansas has been hamstrung to hire a black coordinator because Garrick Mcgee got hired away in order to appease the Black Coaches' Association.

I hope this is isn't true, because exluding people based on skin color is not the way to go about finding the best available help.

[jamie72921]

The people who believe this process has any exclusion to this are the delusional ones. Clearly we want a qualified candidate, but that does not mean we are excluding anyone.  Diversity is needed on a staff, most understand that.

You are brainwashed.

Diversity is not accomplished through exclusion. That is called racism and bigotry.

[songofthesword]

It is being speculated on air right now that Arkansas has been hamstrung to hire a black coordinator because Garrick Mcgee got hired away in order to appease the Black Coaches' Association.

I hope this is isn't true, because exluding people based on skin color is not the way to go about finding the best available help.

considering johnson coluld very well go with McGhee, we could be left with 0 black coaches. that's jsut stupid in the SEC when m ost players are african american.

i find it funny how everyone talks about "we want lsu and bama talent"

well guss what buddy. lsu has 5 minority coaches on staff. bama has 3. we have 1.

[grayhawg]

It is being speculated on air right now that Arkansas has been hamstrung to hire a black coordinator because Garrick Mcgee got hired away in order to appease the Black Coaches' Association.

I hope this is isn't true, because exluding people based on skin color is not the way to go about finding the best available help.

When will these guys quit speculating crap like this, this is one reason I no longer listen to radio call in shows. They are worse than a bunch of ole biddies getting together to gossip.

[popcornhog]

If these are real factors in our DC search equation as stated by Bo & Clay there is a good chance we continue to come up short.  If true I am dissapointed in CBP snd Long.

If we gave a job to someone based entirely on race it would be absurd. I am 100% against any quota system or rule requiring teams to interview based on race.

That being said, racial and cultural diversity on a coaching staff is extremely important as far as I'm concerned. I am all for being sure that our coaching staff is made up of high quality coaches who have the ability to relate to the kids that we're recruiting. Maybe racial diversity is important to putting the puzzle together. It's definitely worth considering.  Just want to have the best coaches that can bring in the best players.

Having a heterogeneous coaching staff is probably important.

[jamie72921]

considering johnson coluld very well go with McGhee, we could be left with 0 black coaches. that's jsut stupid in the SEC when m ost players are african american.

i find it funny how everyone talks about "we want lsu and bama talent"

well guss what buddy. lsu has 5 minority coaches on staff. bama has 3. we have 1.

I don't believe we should exclude anyone because of color.

However, if Trooper Taylor were the only guy available, do you take him just because he's black and ignore the baggage?

[Lips]

I hear CBP is looking for a Mexican DC so he can also help with the kicking game.

[Coondog Hog]

I dont have a problem hiring a black DC. I have a problem hiring a second tier DC because he's black. We need the best DC available.

[jamie72921]

I dont have a problem hiring a black DC. I have a problem hiring a second tier DC because he's black. We need the best DC available.

This exactly.

Randy Shannon was an exciting possibility because he is a proven commodity and a top name. He was also black.

True diversity goes on between the ears anyway.

[passinghog]

I don't believe we should exclude anyone because of color.

However, if Trooper Taylor were the only guy available, do you take him just because he's black and ignore the baggage?

You take Trooper Taylor because he can bring in great players, simple as that.

[HawgAdvocate]

We can't recruit in the SEC with only one black coach on staff, period. Like it or not. As for price Tag, thank Gus

Thank Auburn. Gus doesn't write his own paycheck.

[william.lane123]

It is what it is!!!!!

[NaturalStateReb]

This exactly.

Randy Shannon was an exciting possibility because he is a proven commodity and a top name. He was also black.

True diversity goes on between the ears anyway.

He's probably also into NCAA trouble eyeball deep with the revelations about Miami.

[jamie72921]

You take Trooper Taylor because he can bring in great players, simple as that.

So you can be as good as Auburn was this year? What position does he coach? Is that a strength on their team?

Simple as that.

[KeithStone]

This exactly.

Randy Shannon was an exciting possibility because he is a proven commodity and a top name. He was also black.

True diversity goes on between the ears anyway.

Randy Shannon's black???  I'll be darned, I never even paid attention

[budcampbellfan]

When we lost McGee and replaced him with a petrino.

[SamBuckhart]

Native American? Hey! We were here first. Sam I Am Chickasaw.

[SkunkyMunky]

Understand Results. Everyone understands this.

fixed that for you.

[scorekeeper]

He's probably also into NCAA trouble eyeball deep with the revelations about Miami.

And he is probably not.

[SkunkyMunky]

I personally don't care if our coaching staff is all white, black, Asian, or even from a different planet, as long as they win.

[nwarazfan]

Both are factors.  I wouldn't say they trump resume. 

[LZH]

This exactly.

Randy Shannon was an exciting possibility because he is a proven commodity and a top name. He was also black.

True diversity goes on between the ears anyway.

Yes.  Hell, call it racial diversity, call it racial equality, call it whatever you wanna call it - just by God call Randy Shannon, pay him and get him here.  Who gives a s*** what any coach looks like, what do I care?  You wanna win first and foremost, yes?  He, imo, happens to be the best candidate out there.....period.  Not Tyrone Nix, not for DC anyway (LB's OK).

[scorekeeper]

considering johnson coluld very well go with McGhee, we could be left with 0 black coaches. that's jsut stupid in the SEC when m ost players are african american.

i find it funny how everyone talks about "we want lsu and bama talent"

well guss what buddy. lsu has 5 minority coaches on staff. bama has 3. we have 1.

I didn't know this...I looked it up and WOW it is true. It seems clear as day to me that the staff needs some diversity you have to sell the program to parents as well as the athlete.

[Cure]

Nobody is saying hire a black DC, nor do I believe that is CBPs intentions. We are simply saying you need diversity on the staff if you want to relate to any of your players. It does more good than harm. You are going to the extreme if you believe we are dismissing individuals because they aren't black.

[Coondog Hog]

I'm just debating what was being discussed by Clay and Bo

[NaturalStateReb]

And he is probably not.

Considering all that happened at Miami under his tenure, what would lead you to believe that?

[Pyrotechnician]

There are better diverse choices than Ty Nix

[popcornhog]

I personally don't care if our coaching staff is all white, black, Asian, or even from a different planet, as long as they win.

^^^This. Just realize that having some racial/ethnic/cultural diversity can help recruiting. It would be the dame reality if the staff was currently all black. Don't let race be the deciding factor, but be aware of reality and consider race as part of the equation if it will help us win. Period.

[cw2]

Maybe we should diversify the color of the players, then it wouldn't be an issue.

[popcornhog]

There are better diverse choices than Ty Nix

Agreed. Nix is just a bad choice.

[popcornhog]

Maybe we should diversify the color of the players, then it wouldn't be an issue.

There are two goals: 1) win; 2) maintain the integrity and reputation of the University. The two goals are equally important.

With those two goals in mind, be aware that cultural and racial diversity is important to sign the best recruits. It's not absolutely necessary, it's not the top priority necessarily, but it's probably fairly important.

[cw2]

There are two goals: 1) win; 2) maintain the integrity and reputation of the University. The two goals are equally important.

With those two goals in mind, be aware that cultural and racial diversity is important to sign the best recruits. It's not absolutely necessary, it's not the top priority necessarily, but it's probably fairly important.

I was being sarcastic.  It doesn't seem to matter to people that the team is 90% one color; but if the coaches are, they get up in arms because THAT's a serious issue.  I don't care care if every person on the team and every coach are matching plaid, just get the people that have the qualifications and ability to get the job done.

[jamie72921]

There are two goals: 1) win; 2) maintain the integrity and reputation of the University. The two goals are equally important.

With those two goals in mind, be aware that cultural and racial diversity is important to sign the best recruits. It's not absolutely necessary, it's not the top priority necessarily, but it's probably fairly important.

Pop,

I have noticed that you have a hard time recognizing when people are "funnin".

I suggest you get down off your high horse and give other people a little more credit than you currently do.

[Iwastherein1969]

we could kill two birds with one stone....hire the best available DC out there in Randy Shannon and who would believe it, the guy just happens to be a Black man also....this should ALREADY be done...what's holding the process up is the UA's defiance in paying a top-shelf salary to an assistant....its strange to me how we can spend a couple million on brand new turf, 30-40 million on a new football operations center and gather plans to spend over 300 million in upgrades in general yet we REFUSE TO pay Shannon an extra 300 or 400 thousand over the going rate for a good DC ?    and Shannon is the key to the kingdom....all this other stuff is window dressing.....IMHO, Randy Shannon would make our defense good enough to get the ball back to our high-powered offense enough for us to beat Alabama and LSU....problem solved.....but as per usual, we sweat the little things like paying a DC quite well and yet shout it out to the world we are upgrading our facilities to the tune of 300 million or so.....AMAZING.....just AMAZING !

[hog101]

   +1  ^^^^^

[scorekeeper]

Considering all that happened at Miami under his tenure, what would lead you to believe that?

Some of that stuff that happened was before he took over as head coach.