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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2010, 02:29:38 am »

how would you feel about the vuvuzela. or that stupid soccer song. :razorback:
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2010, 07:39:54 am »

"We've got to respect the bell so we can keep this tradition alive," Coach Mullen told several hundred students on campus Tuesday night.
 
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Mullen's plea comes one day after it came out that Mississippi State had been told it has violated the Southeastern Conference's noisemaker policy. MSU athletic director Scott Stricklin said he expects the school to be fined, and the future of the cowbell at Davis Wade Stadium beyond this season is in serious doubt.

Since the 1970s, cowbells were deemed illegal noisemakers by the SEC, yet thousands of Mississippi State fans would sneak them into the stadium with few repercussions. But during the SEC's most recent summer meetings, the conference made the cowbell legal with the stipulation that they are only used during dead ball moments ó like timeouts, halftime and after scoring plays.

"You can't tell fans how to cheer. Rules just cause rebellion," Peyton said Georgia game. "Fan bases are built out of culture, not regulation."

Chad Bumphis, a sophomore from Tupelo who plays receiver for Mississippi State's football team, said the players love the cowbell tradition. He also added that he didn't think the extra noise generated a competitive advantage.

"We can't even hear it," Bumphis said. "If you can hear that on the field, then you've got bigger problems than cowbells. I honestly don't know what's bothering people."
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2010, 01:45:25 pm »

We use them at our HS Football Games when you get 1000 cow bells going at the same time it can cause a Heck of a Racket!  I can just image what it sounds like at MSU!
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2010, 05:04:50 pm »

We use them at our HS Football Games when you get 1000 cow bells going at the same time it can cause a Heck of a Racket!  I can just image what it sounds like at MSU!

We use to fill coke cans with rocks and shake them at our games here in North Mississippi. 
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #104 on: October 27, 2010, 05:13:07 pm »

We use to fill coke cans with rocks and shake them at our games here in North Mississippi. 

We used to yell and clap our hands.

Yeah, I know it sounds like a lot of effort, but that's what we used to do.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #105 on: October 27, 2010, 05:17:50 pm »

We used to yell and clap our hands.

Yeah, I know it sounds like a lot of effort, but that's what we used to do.

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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2010, 11:05:14 am »

We used to yell and clap our hands.

Yeah, I know it sounds like a lot of effort, but that's what we used to do.

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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2010, 07:33:02 pm »

Cowbell issue has gotten too big for its breeches
 
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This cowbell issue has gotten a bit big for its britches, and the fans are to blame. If Iím Stricklin, and Iím having to write a fat check out of my relatively small bank account because some idiots have no self-control or consideration, then next season Iím sending some muscular security guards through the stands to take those cowbells away.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #109 on: November 13, 2010, 04:20:22 pm »

Will MSU be punished after this season for ringing those d@mn cow bells!  I know that there was a ruling on this that said more or less that if they rang them they may or may not be punished at the end of the season. What the hell kind of ruling is that?  Either it is against the rules or it isn't. Right?
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #110 on: November 13, 2010, 07:35:45 pm »

they made a "compromise" and well, up until the last home game, they were in serious violation of the compromise. After Slive basically said penalties are a-comin' they shaped up...for a game.

Basically, they can ring them, as long as the clock isn't running when Bama has the ball and it's a time out situation. Otherwise they can ring them all they want.

I want those damn things gone personally.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2010, 07:56:02 pm »

They will be ringing next week during our game.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2010, 09:00:48 pm »

Bobby needs to get a bunch of students to volunteer to sit and watch practice and ring cowbells all week long.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #113 on: November 13, 2010, 09:13:34 pm »

I hope they get the stuff fined out of them. If anyone else had a noise maker the sec would throw the book at 'em.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #114 on: November 13, 2010, 09:51:52 pm »

I hope they get the stuff fined out of them. If anyone else had a noise maker the sec would throw the book at 'em.

Ole Miss has Danny Nutt and they don't get fined for all the grunting he does.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #115 on: November 13, 2010, 10:09:29 pm »

Why can't we bring cowbells into the stadium?  What would MSU think of a little cowbell when their offense was on the field?
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2010, 06:43:52 am »

Why can't we bring cowbells into the stadium?  What would MSU think of a little cowbell when their offense was on the field?

They are probably used to them, but I do agree that they need a dose of their own medicine.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #117 on: November 14, 2010, 11:46:23 am »

how would you feel about the vuvuzela. or that stupid soccer song. :razorback:

"If I could come back as anything after I die, I would come back as a vuvuzela. I would be able to be annoying as hell but still get blown a lot, amirite?"
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #118 on: November 14, 2010, 04:58:28 pm »

If they start calling atleast one 15 yard penalty a game on the home team that would stop it real quick.

Exactly

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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #119 on: November 19, 2010, 12:39:49 am »

cowbells for cows only.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #120 on: November 19, 2010, 01:13:11 am »


If they take away the cowbells how will MSU call their cheerleaders out of the pasture to the stadium?


This post did not go unnoticed. 

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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #121 on: November 19, 2010, 01:31:02 am »

Post of the year.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #122 on: November 19, 2010, 11:59:34 am »

I'm going to ring a cowbell.  ???
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #123 on: November 19, 2010, 04:51:24 pm »

I think we should bring some vuvuzellas to the game and play them when they have the ball
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #124 on: November 20, 2010, 05:06:00 pm »

Will this be State's last legal game with the bells?
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #125 on: November 20, 2010, 07:34:08 pm »

Predict this will be the last nite for the cowbells.

Plus max fine.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #126 on: November 20, 2010, 08:37:53 pm »

Down to little jingle bells after Wright TD
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #127 on: November 20, 2010, 09:51:58 pm »

I'm carrying a duck call to the next game I attend.


You want noise?  Get 20-30K Arkansans blowing a call!

If we were the Oregon Ducks, I would be all over this.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #128 on: November 20, 2010, 10:00:34 pm »

Personally -- the fine (unless its VERY steep) will do nothing.  Put it like this -- the first possession of each quarter (first infraction) will incur a 15 yard penalty for that game.  Then each time bell is heard during "non dead play" time its another 15 yard penalty.  I know harsh, but its the only way to make it even. 

Besides that is THE MOST annoying soundmaker available.
This would work, fines will not
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #129 on: November 21, 2010, 08:21:26 am »

I was wondering what the rules were for them and looked this up.  Haven't watched more than 1st quarter due to having to be up at 3 Eastern time but it seemed they broke these rules all night long.

--The cowbell compromise, a one-year rule allowing MSU fans to use their traditional noisemakers during stoppages of play (such as timeouts, after scores and at halftime). MSU was said to have broken that rule more than once this season, according the SEC and the future of the cowbell is in peril.--

Obviously we got the win which is the only thing that matters but in you guys opinions did the cowbells come into play at all during the game? 
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #130 on: November 21, 2010, 08:23:25 am »

I think that the Cow bells are a MSU tradition just as the Hog Call is for us. No big deal.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #131 on: November 21, 2010, 08:28:23 am »

Artificial noisemakers should either be illegal or not...if MSU can use them, let everyone else as well.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #132 on: November 21, 2010, 08:43:28 am »

Artificial noisemakers should either be illegal or not...if MSU can use them, let everyone else as well.
Agreed...otherwise everyone in the SEC needs to start a new tradition....
Artificial noisemakers should either be illegal or not...if MSU can use them, let everyone else as well.
Agreed...otherwise everyone in the SEC needs to start a new tradition.  Vuvuzelas, inflatible clappers etc.  Cowbells at State is a tradition but, it is CHEATING IMHO
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #133 on: November 21, 2010, 08:49:04 am »

I am not bothered by the cowbells, either; I, however, am not a player. Additionally, the ringing of cowbells is against the rules when the football is in play; so ringing them during that time is, in effect, cheating.

I have wondered if the SEC really cares about the cowbell issue.  If they are really interested in stopping the bells, one solution might be offsetting penalties.  For example, if MSUs opponent gets flagged for a false start, the officials could simultaneously flag the Bulldogs for their fans' use of artificial noisemakers (makes sense, after all the noise may hay caused the miscommunication at the line of scrimmage).  The result, both penalties would result in a free play for MSUs opponent!  This should extend to EVERY flag--even late hits!  After all, if a player can't hear a whistle, how can the player be aware that play has stopped?

Again, this is just a suggestion, but it might result in the disappearance of the cowbells--at least during play!
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #134 on: November 21, 2010, 09:04:11 am »

Give credit where credit is due.  99% of the Miss St fans used their cow bells appropriately.  Few used them during the opponents (Razorbacks) possessions.  It's a great tradition for them, they were responsibly used and their tradition should continue.  It's another reason why the SEC is a great conference to be!
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #135 on: November 21, 2010, 09:08:17 am »

Give credit where credit is due.  99% of the Miss St fans used their cow bells appropriately.  Few used them during the opponents (Razorbacks) possessions.  It's a great tradition for them, they were responsibly used and their tradition should continue.  It's another reason why the SEC is a great conference to be!
I humbly disagree.  I heard plenty of cowbell on the FG attempts and several other times as well.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #136 on: November 21, 2010, 09:09:34 am »

The origin of the cowbell traces back to the early days of MSU football in which the men had no other means of locating their wives after the game. ;D ;)
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #137 on: November 21, 2010, 09:10:46 am »

I humbly disagree.  I heard plenty of cowbell on the FG attempts and several other times as well.

Yeah, they use them all the time.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #138 on: November 21, 2010, 09:11:25 am »

Give credit where credit is due.  99% of the Miss St fans used their cow bells appropriately.  Few used them during the opponents (Razorbacks) possessions.  It's a great tradition for them, they were responsibly used and their tradition should continue.  It's another reason why the SEC is a great conference to be!
This is simply incorrect- go back and watch any third down play! Any critical point of the game is affected by the inappropriate use of the cowbells.
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« Reply #139 on: November 21, 2010, 09:13:12 am »

Source:  http://www.mstateathletics.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=926236

The Cowbell
The most unique and certainly the most resounding symbol of Mississippi State University tradition is the cowbell. Despite decades of attempts by opponents and authorities to banish it from scenes of competition, diehard State fans still celebrate Bulldog victories loudly and proudly with the distinctive sound of ringing cowbells.

The precise origin of the cowbell as a fixture of Mississippi State sports tradition remains unclear to this day. The best records have cowbells gradually introduced to the MSU sports scene in the late 1930s and early 1940s, coinciding with the 'golden age' of Mississippi State football success
prior to World War II.

The most popular legend is that during a home football game between State and arch-rival Mississippi, a jersey cow wandered onto the playing field. Mississippi State soundly whipped the Rebels that Saturday, and State College students immediately adopted the cow as a good luck charm. Students are said to have continued bringing a cow to football games for a while, until the practice was eventually discontinued in favor of bringing just the cow's bell.

Whatever the origin, it is certain that by the 1950s cowbells were common at Mississippi State games, and by the 1960s were established as the special symbol of Mississippi State. Ironically, the cowbell's popularity grew most rapidly during the long years when State football teams were rarely successful. Flaunting this anachronism from the 'aggie' days was a proud response by students and alumni to outsider scorn of the university's 'cow college' history.

In the 1960s two MSU professors, Earl W. Terrell and Ralph L. Reeves obliged some students by welding handles on the bells to they could be rung with much more convenience and authority. By 1963 the demand for these long-handled cowbells could not be filled by home workshops alone, so at the suggestion of Reeves the Student Association bought bells in bulk and the Industrial Education Club agreed to weld on handles. In 1964 the MSU Bookstore began marketing these cowbells with a portion of the profits returning to these student organizations.

Today many styles of cowbells are available on campus and around Starkville, with the top-of-the-line a heavy chrome-plated model with a full Bulldog figurine handle. But experts insist the best and loudest results are produced by a classic long-handled, bicycle-grip bell made of thinner and tightly-welded shells.

Cowbells decorate offices and homes of Mississippi State alumni, and are passed down through generations of Bulldog fans. But they are not heard at Southeastern Conference gamesnot legally, at leastsince the 1974 adoption of a conference rule against 'artificial noisemakers' at football and basketball games. On a 9-1 vote SEC schools ruled cowbells a disruption and banned them.

This has done little harm to the cowbell's popularity, however, or to prevent cowbells from being heard outside stadiums in which the Bulldogs are playing. They can still be heard at non-conference football contests, as well as other sporting events on campus. And bold Bulldog fans still risk confiscation for the privilege of keeping a unique Mississippi State tradition alive and ringing at SEC affairs
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #140 on: November 21, 2010, 09:17:06 am »

I think that the Cow bells are a MSU tradition just as the Hog Call is for us. No big deal.

well that's pretty dumb. see, with the hog call, our voices are the noise maker. and with the cowbell, that's an artificial noise maker. i just heard LSU started a new tradition where on the road they bring air horns to the game and they just use them all the time. so we have to allow them for their away fans at WMS.
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« Reply #141 on: November 21, 2010, 09:18:07 am »

I was there in section W which is the Hog section and heard Cow Bells on about every single play that we had the ball. Alot of fans respected the rule and alot didn't. Sometimes it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch. If they are allowed to continue withthe cowbell then I think we should start a Air Horn tradition at Arkansas in tradition of our newfound Air Attack.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #142 on: November 21, 2010, 09:36:12 am »

Give credit where credit is due.  99% of the Miss St fans used their cow bells appropriately.  Few used them during the opponents (Razorbacks) possessions.  It's a great tradition for them, they were responsibly used and their tradition should continue.  It's another reason why the SEC is a great conference to be!

AYFKM? were you watching women's volleyball on ESPN 8, the ocho? they're only suppose to use them during touchdowns, time outs, halftime. if 30,000 of the 50,000 brought cowbells and only 1,000 of the 30,000 people used them illegally, while that is "a few" it's still a violation of the rules. MSUs ushers should do their job and ask those who violate the rule to leave.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #143 on: November 21, 2010, 10:04:12 am »

I imagine Hocker and our deep snapper heard them....ban the damn cowbells!
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #144 on: November 21, 2010, 10:05:59 am »

I think that the Cow bells are a MSU tradition just as the Hog Call is for us. No big deal.

We don't use artificial noisemakers.  They should be banned permanently.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #145 on: November 21, 2010, 10:09:17 am »

May we should use those silly horns they used in the World Cup Soccer matches when we play MSU next year....and blow them during the snap count...let's call them "pig snout" horns. :)
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #146 on: November 21, 2010, 10:12:05 am »

The cowbells should be ban or give us a chance to use air horn. What's the diffenence??
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #147 on: November 21, 2010, 10:17:10 am »

May we should use those silly horns they used in the World Cup Soccer matches when we play MSU next year....and blow them during the snap count...let's call them "pig snout" horns. :)

Vevuzela's should be illegal to possess, much less be utilized at sporting events.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #148 on: November 21, 2010, 10:21:43 am »

mallett was sacked with 7 minutes left in the second and 99% of the cowbells in the place sounded.

Vevuzela's should be illegal to possess, much less be utilized at sporting events.
they were a cool fad or 30 days in the summer of 2010, like the macarena of summers past.
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Re: Update: State braced for Battle over the Cowbells
« Reply #149 on: November 21, 2010, 10:32:05 am »

Agreed...otherwise everyone in the SEC needs to start a new tradition....Agreed...otherwise everyone in the SEC needs to start a new tradition.  Vuvuzelas, inflatible clappers etc.  Cowbells at State is a tradition but, it is CHEATING IMHO
kinda like Auburn's "tradition" of BUYING PLAYERS!!
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