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Why no touchback?
« on: October 30, 2014, 08:13:30 pm »

FSU just fumbled the ball into their own end zone.  They recovered it in the endzone for a touchdown.  My understanding of the NCAA rule is this should be a touchback and Louisville awarded possession on the 20 yard line.  What am I missing?
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2014, 08:14:38 pm »

If it goes out of bounds then that's a touch back .
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2014, 08:15:43 pm »

FSU just fumbled the ball into their own end zone.  They recovered it in the endzone for a touchback.  My understanding of the NCAA rule is this should be a touchback and Louisville awarded possession on the 20 yard line.  What am I missing?
You answered your own question. A ball fumbled into the end zone of the scoring team is a touchdown. If the ball goes out of the back of the end zone, or side, that is a touchback. But Fumbling into the end zone and recovering it is a touchdown for sure.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2014, 08:17:31 pm »

My question is, the guy fumbled it forward. It should have been ball at the spot of the fumble.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2014, 08:18:17 pm »

My question is, the guy fumbled it forward. It should have been ball at the spot of the fumble.

Yes, this is true.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2014, 08:18:58 pm »

My question is, the guy fumbled it forward. It should have been ball at the spot of the fumble.

If the same guy recovers then no. It's a touchdown.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2014, 08:19:09 pm »

My question is, the guy fumbled it forward. It should have been ball at the spot of the fumble.

This is what I was thinking.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2014, 08:19:15 pm »

I edited the question.  I did not realize out of bounds in the endzone was treated differently than recovering the fumble in the endzone.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2014, 08:19:42 pm »

If the same guy recovers then no. It's a touchdown.

Ok, didn't realize the guy who fumbled recovered it.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2014, 08:19:54 pm »

Also there is some funky rule about the offense advancing a fumble.  Just the last game I believe Arkansas fumbled the ball and would have got a lot of extra yardage but it was brought back to the spot of the fumble. Did it go out of bounds?

Wierd stuff happens with SEC refs!
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2014, 08:21:24 pm »

^^^^^^^^^^^this
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2014, 08:22:03 pm »

FSU just fumbled the ball into their own end zone.  They recovered it in the endzone for a touchdown.  My understanding of the NCAA rule is this should be a touchback and Louisville awarded possession on the 20 yard line.  What am I missing?

If Louisville had recovered, yes;  as FSU recovered a ball fumbled, the call is a TD, unless its 4th down, or the ball going out of bounds.

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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2014, 08:22:59 pm »

My question is, the guy fumbled it forward. It should have been ball at the spot of the fumble.

NFL or College Rule?  The different rules tick me off.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2014, 08:23:06 pm »

Ok, didn't realize the guy who fumbled recovered it.

He didn't, Jack's grandson recovered it.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2014, 08:23:07 pm »

Also there is some funky rule about the offense advancing a fumble.  Just the last game I believe Arkansas fumbled the ball and would have got a lot of extra yardage but it was brought back to the spot of the fumble. Did it go out of bounds?

Wierd stuff happens with SEC refs!

Nm
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2014, 08:23:24 pm »

Ok, didn't realize the guy who fumbled recovered it.

I don't know that he did, did he? Oh well, too late now.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2014, 08:25:25 pm »

So then in college, can a ball be fumble forward?
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2014, 08:25:57 pm »

So then in college, can a ball be fumble forward?

Yes, within certain limitations.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2014, 08:26:06 pm »

I was wondering the same thing, you can't fumble forward
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2014, 08:26:14 pm »

I don't know that he did, did he? Oh well, too late now.

I don't know, but someone said it would be a TD is the fumbler recovered.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2014, 08:26:39 pm »

Yes, within certain limitations.

Not much help, but thanks.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2014, 08:29:04 pm »

Not much help, but thanks.

It can't happen on 4th down;  if it goes out of bounds forward of the spot of the fumble, it is returned to the spot of the fumble;  the ball cannot be further advanced than the spot of the recovery, unless it is recovered by the fumbler-- and it cannot be intentional.   
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2014, 08:45:03 pm »

If FSU recovers the fumble in the endzone, it's a TD. See: Jarius Wright's recovery of Cobi Hamilton's fumble in the endzone against Texas A&M 2011.

The only time you can't advance it is if it goes out of bounds.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2014, 08:55:21 pm »

Can't fumble forward for a first down on 4th down. I believe that's the rule.
If it would've been 4th and Goal, ball would've gone to Louisville at spot of fumble.
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Re: Why no touchback?
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2014, 08:56:20 pm »

remember back to the Ark vs. A&M game in 2011 when Cobi Hamilton caught a pass and fumbled about the 10 yard line.  The ball went in the endzone and jarius wright recovered for a TD.
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