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FB program in 5 years
« on: August 18, 2017, 05:25:43 pm »

where do y'all see our program in 5 years from now. SEC championship? CFB playoffs? Nat. championship? 5-7 season? or mediocer 9-3 team?.. just something to think about.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 05:27:54 pm »

where do y'all see our program in 5 years from now. SEC championship? CFB playoffs? Nat. championship? 5-7 season? or mediocer 9-3 team?.. just something to think about.

Probably 1 10 win season then 4 seasons of 7-9 wins.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 05:30:34 pm »

Probably 1 10 win season then 4 seasons of 7-9 wins.
id like to see back to back 10 win seasons or maybe a year where we only lose to Bama
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2017, 05:46:37 pm »

id like to see back to back 10 win seasons or maybe a year where we only lose to Bama
That's what you would like to see? You wouldn't want a undefeated season? Are you not tired of watching us lose to bama? I wanna beat bama and go undefeated. I'm not saying that's what we're gonna.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2017, 05:48:22 pm »

I should be dead so I will do what I can.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2017, 05:52:32 pm »

where do y'all see our program in 5 years from now. SEC championship? CFB playoffs? Nat. championship? 5-7 season? or mediocer 9-3 team?.. just something to think about.

I think we should be thinking about five days, five weeks and five months NOT five years.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2017, 05:57:00 pm »

Most likely in 5 years we will have a different coach and be complaining about winning 7-8 games. This is what it is.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2017, 05:58:08 pm »

If we stay with this HC and AD, and, of course, if they both agree to stay with us, you will be seeing about what you see now, 7 to 9 win seasons, a decent bowl record because we will  be playing weak teams in bowls and, including the bowl a couple of 10 win seasons and a couple of 5 win seasons.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2017, 05:59:56 pm »

Sorry I thought we were looking at 10 years out.  Over the next 5 years, expect 6 to maybe 9 wins per season including the bowls.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2017, 06:02:23 pm »

That's what you would like to see? You wouldn't want a undefeated season? Are you not tired of watching us lose to bama? I wanna beat bama and go undefeated. I'm not saying that's what we're gonna.
thats what I would love to see as well I'm just throwing out ideas of what our program might be in the future. every year at the beginning of the season I hope that we will go undefeated, but you have to be realistic. yes its possible
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2017, 06:20:17 pm »

That's what you would like to see? You wouldn't want a undefeated season? Are you not tired of watching us lose to bama? I wanna beat bama and go undefeated. I'm not saying that's what we're gonna.

Question isn't what I would like. It's where do you see it at in 5 years. 
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2017, 06:24:39 pm »

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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2017, 06:25:37 pm »

Question isn't what I would like. It's where do you see it at in 5 years.
thank you exactly!!
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2017, 06:26:07 pm »

in three years we will have some nutt like car salesman come in and win 11 games with CBB recruits and foundation. History always repeats.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2017, 06:34:34 pm »

in three years we will have some nutt like car salesman come in and win 11 games with CBB recruits and foundation. History always repeats.

Well if that is the case it should be 9 wins.  Nutt could never win 11 games. 
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2017, 07:39:34 pm »

in three years we will have some nutt like car salesman come in and win 11 games with CBB recruits and foundation. History always repeats.
CBB will still be here in 3 years
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2017, 08:30:19 pm »

Well if that is the case it should be 9 wins.  Nutt could never win 11 games.
I like cbbs recruiting over fords actually. Someone is going to go gang busters with it.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2017, 09:28:52 pm »

where do y'all see our program in 5 years from now. SEC championship? CFB playoffs? Nat. championship? 5-7 season? or mediocer 9-3 team?.. just something to think about.

Same place it's been for the last 32.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2017, 09:30:54 pm »

Frankly, I personally equate questions of this nature to Einstein's Theory Of Relativity: - - - I have absolutely no clue.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2017, 09:33:19 pm »

Same place it's been for the last 32.
what about 09, 10, 11, can't compare them years to where we were the last few years
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2017, 09:40:25 pm »

what about 09, 10, 11, can't compare them years to where we were the last few years

09?

Arkansas Razorbacks record in 2009: 8-5 win over East Carolina in Liberty Bowl

Arkansas Razorbacks record in 2015: 8-5 win over Kansas State in Liberty Bowl
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2017, 09:40:40 pm »

If we stay with this HC and AD, and, of course, if they both agree to stay with us, you will be seeing about what you see now, 7 to 9 win seasons, a decent bowl record because we will  be playing weak teams in bowls and, including the bowl a couple of 10 win seasons and a couple of 5 win seasons.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2017, 09:41:31 pm »

CBB will still be here in 3 years
If he's still on 6 or 7 wins a year, his seat should be so hot he can't sit on it.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2017, 09:44:53 pm »

If he's still on 6 or 7 wins a year, his seat should be so hot he can't sit on it.
oh I agree completely. but I'm hoping and praying that there is no way we go anything less then 8 wins. I don't see it happening I feel good about this year and even better about next year. but anything can happen
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2017, 10:38:21 pm »

40-25 over the next 5 years.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2017, 10:42:38 pm »

7 wins a year average. So every once in a while a bit better or worse. About where we've been up to now.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2017, 11:48:27 pm »

09?

Arkansas Razorbacks record in 2009: 8-5 win over East Carolina in Liberty Bowl

Arkansas Razorbacks record in 2015: 8-5 win over Kansas State in Liberty Bowl
Fair enough, your man has some pressure on him this year, Petrino's third year the Hogs were ranked in the top 10 and played in the Sugar Bowl with a record of 10-2...think your boy is going to post 10 regular season wins this year ?  I'll take the side he doesn't for any amount. So now, put your coin where your keyboard seems to be.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2017, 12:17:02 am »

Fair enough, your man has some pressure on him this year, Petrino's third year the Hogs were ranked in the top 10 and played in the Sugar Bowl with a record of 10-2...think your boy is going to post 10 regular season wins this year ?  I'll take the side he doesn't for any amount. So now, put your coin where your keyboard seems to be.

What are you talking about?  I replied to a quote that stated:

what about 09, 10, 11, can't compare them years to where we were the last few years

2010 and 2011 were extraordinary not 2009.

Did you log-in to the wrong account and get confused?
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2017, 06:42:43 am »

Fair enough, your man has some pressure on him this year, Petrino's third year the Hogs were ranked in the top 10 and played in the Sugar Bowl with a record of 10-2...think your boy is going to post 10 regular season wins this year ?  I'll take the side he doesn't for any amount. So now, put your coin where your keyboard seems to be.

If you're a hog fan, he is your boy too. however, we know that cbp is your boy and you are a cbp fan more than you are a hog fan. carry on.
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2017, 07:25:32 am »

It would be fun to put all of the CBP fanboys and all of the 'star gazers' in a room and let them go at it.

Come on guys which is it?  Coaching or talent?
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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2017, 08:35:17 am »

The talent is here and after this coming year I think  if there are no Coaching changes throughout the whole staff we will see perhaps one of our best classes signed in years.  With this said, I'm not going to say what the program will look like in 5 years, I worry about what it looks like now and this season.  I think this team will surprise a lot of people this year and win 9 games, and when you look across the depth chart you will see that at every position we have depth coming back next year to make as good a run next year or even better.  The only worry I will have next year will be and unproven QB and O-Line with Ragnow, and I always worry about LB's.
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2017, 09:09:05 am »

where do y'all see our program in 5 years from now. SEC championship? CFB playoffs? Nat. championship? 5-7 season? or mediocer 9-3 team?.. just something to think about.

Impossible to tell.  We'll probably be either 3 or 4 years into a new regime.
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2017, 09:10:31 am »

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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2017, 09:21:15 am »

Most likely in 5 years we will have a different coach and be complaining about winning 7-8 games. This is what it is.

Ding ding ding .....
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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2017, 09:43:59 am »

It would be fun to put all of the CBP fanboys and all of the 'star gazers' in a room and let them go at it.

Come on guys which is it?  Coaching or talent?

It has always been both. With coaching being the most important part. 1st coaching. 2nd talent. 
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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2017, 09:49:13 am »

It has always been both. With coaching being the most important part. 1st coaching. 2nd talent.

True, I've also noticed the mantra of recruiting improving has morphed over the past few years.  It has improved, then it didn't, then it did...
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2017, 01:15:46 pm »

Question isn't what I would like. It's where do you see it at in 5 years.
I know what the question is. I was referring to his comment on what he would like to see. We've been very mediocre the last 5 years and I don't see that changing unless we start getting more 4 stars and maybe some 5 stars. Some say the stars don't matter but Alabama has plenty of them and it works for them. We need to recruit better.
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2017, 01:29:00 pm »

I know what the question is. I was referring to his comment on what he would like to see. We've been very mediocre the last 5 years and I don't see that changing unless we start getting more 4 stars and maybe some 5 stars. Some say the stars don't matter but Alabama has plenty of them and it works for them. We need to recruit better.
we have to have a few back to back seasons of at least 10 wins or better before we start bringing in any 5 stars
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2017, 05:24:05 pm »

I think 2017 will be the pivotal year for CBB in his tenure at Arkansas. IMO he has the staff and enough talent to win 10 or more games this year, including the bowl game. If he does so the the needle has moved up significantly and could propel us forward to seasons like he experienced at Whisky.

On the other hand if we finish with 7 wins are less then I can't see us as becoming reasonable successful under CBB. Anywhere between 7 and 10 wins will put us at a level where CBB will be retained but I will not expect much gratification from future seasons.

So in a nutshell I think 2017 will be a defining year for the Hogs under CBB. My wish, as always, is for this to be the year we really turn the corner.
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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2017, 06:36:20 pm »

In 5 years I see the program ending preseason practices, getting ready for the opener against a rent-a-win school and heart by fans complaining about how bad the is coaching is. That is unless we have a brand new coach. In that case people will be complaining we didn't get a home run hire and the AD should be fired.
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2017, 07:01:49 pm »

I think 2017 will be the pivotal year for CBB in his tenure at Arkansas. IMO he has the staff and enough talent to win 10 or more games this year, including the bowl game. If he does so the the needle has moved up significantly and could propel us forward to seasons like he experienced at Whisky.

On the other hand if we finish with 7 wins are less then I can't see us as becoming reasonable successful under CBB. Anywhere between 7 and 10 wins will put us at a level where CBB will be retained but I will not expect much gratification from future seasons.

So in a nutshell I think 2017 will be a defining year for the Hogs under CBB. My wish, as always, is for this to be the year we really turn the corner.

I agree this will indeed be CBB's defining year. For the last 4 years there have been people saying "he inherited a mess so he needs more time". This is his 5th season and not one single solitary player that he inherited is still on this team, every single player is a CBB recruit so the "he inherited a mess" mantra doesn't apply any more. It's time for CBB and his Hogs to make a big move as far as wins are concerned and I believe they'll get it done this year.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2017, 07:40:06 pm »

Bielema will not take our program to the "promised land".  We might end up 2nd or third in the West occasionally, but we are not going to win the SEC WITH THE CURRENT Coaching staff.
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« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2017, 11:46:06 pm »

I think 2017 will be the pivotal year for CBB in his tenure at Arkansas. IMO he has the staff and enough talent to win 10 or more games this year, including the bowl game. If he does so the the needle has moved up significantly and could propel us forward to seasons like he experienced at Whisky.

On the other hand if we finish with 7 wins are less then I can't see us as becoming reasonable successful under CBB. Anywhere between 7 and 10 wins will put us at a level where CBB will be retained but I will not expect much gratification from future seasons.

So in a nutshell I think 2017 will be a defining year for the Hogs under CBB. My wish, as always, is for this to be the year we really turn the corner.
this Is very well said, we had the talent last year to win 9 maybe even 10 games. IMO there should be ABSOLUTELY NO ECCUSE of not winning 9-10 games this year. unless we have several injuries. we. have the talent, the coaching staff, and even a decent schedule that sets up for a 9-10 win season. if CBB can not pull that off then he is  not the guy for us. and I fully support CBB and I really like the guy, but this is the year that he has to get it done, if not then I'm off of the bret bus.
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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2017, 03:53:36 am »

The talent is here and after this coming year I think  if there are no Coaching changes throughout the whole staff we will see perhaps one of our best classes signed in years.  With this said, I'm not going to say what the program will look like in 5 years, I worry about what it looks like now and this season.  I think this team will surprise a lot of people this year and win 9 games, and when you look across the depth chart you will see that at every position we have depth coming back next year to make as good a run next year or even better.  The only worry I will have next year will be and unproven QB and O-Line with Ragnow, and I always worry about LB's.

Do I need to post the recruiting rankings for the past 5 years? The talent is at other programs if you look where they rank year in and year out.  We are still recruiting bottom half of the SECw.
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Re: FB program in 5 years
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2017, 08:35:01 am »

I love the Hogs. But. A national championship probably not going to be repeated. Recruiting, etc just doesn't appear to work in our direction. Conference championship maybe. I hope so. If your enjoyment as a hog fan is a natty you are going to be forever didappointed. I day dream about it.
Idle time killing. Can't wait for season to start. I'll watch every game hoping we win them all.
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« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2017, 09:06:33 am »

Do I need to post the recruiting rankings for the past 5 years? The talent is at other programs if you look where they rank year in and year out.  We are still recruiting bottom half of the SECw.

 I can only think of four teams on our 2017 schedule that have significantly better recruiting rankings over the past four years.  ALabama, LSU, A$M and Auburn are higher. Ole Miss has serious problems that more than offset any recruiting advantage. USCe and Missouri have second year coaches that have yet to prove themselves. That leaves MState and I believe we generally out recruit them.

We have three OOC games that are guaranteed wins leaving only TCU where our recruiting is maybe a little better or a little worse, not going to spend time researching.

So if you are a purist and draw the line on recruiting only  and coaching doesn't matter then we should win about 8 games this year.

 I am a strong believer that coaching is first in importance. Follow the good or great coaches and they will win wherever  they go, with few exceptions. Look at the traditional heavyweights in college football such as Alabama, USCw, Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, to name a few, and see that those programs have lost when they had  the wrong coach. So is it the recruits or the coaching?
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« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2017, 09:56:08 am »

Do I need to post the recruiting rankings for the past 5 years? The talent is at other programs if you look where they rank year in and year out.  We are still recruiting bottom half of the SECw.

He's not a good recruiter.

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=SEC

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=SEC
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« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2017, 10:08:59 am »

He recruits about where Arkansas always has recruited. 
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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2017, 10:12:15 am »

He recruits about where Arkansas always has recruited.

Yep
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« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2017, 10:17:12 am »

I can only think of four teams on our 2017 schedule that have significantly better recruiting rankings over the past four years.  ALabama, LSU, A$M and Auburn are higher. Ole Miss has serious problems that more than offset any recruiting advantage. USCe and Missouri have second year coaches that have yet to prove themselves. That leaves MState and I believe we generally out recruit them.

We have three OOC games that are guaranteed wins leaving only TCU where our recruiting is maybe a little better or a little worse, not going to spend time researching.

So if you are a purist and draw the line on recruiting only  and coaching doesn't matter then we should win about 8 games this year.

 I am a strong believer that coaching is first in importance. Follow the good or great coaches and they will win wherever  they go, with few exceptions. Look at the traditional heavyweights in college football such as Alabama, USCw, Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, to name a few, and see that those programs have lost when they had  the wrong coach. So is it the recruits or the coaching?

We recruit about as well as MS St.

Look up the rankings. I’ve posted them before. Miss St., Ole Miss and the likes are our toss up games year in and year out. We have to do better than .500 on those games to have a decent season.
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