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Title: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: parallaxpig on February 08, 2018, 05:09:16 pm
HDN---------9-3
BP-----------5-7
BB-----------3-9

I'm thinking 6-6 with 4-0 in non conference and a couple of SEC wins............
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: go hogues on February 08, 2018, 05:19:01 pm
Between CBP and B.B: 4-8 first year
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: HogPharmer on February 08, 2018, 05:19:50 pm
15-0

Hammerdown
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: swineology on February 08, 2018, 05:20:13 pm
3-9 - 5-7

Way to early prediction. Let's see what they look like in the spring.


WPS!
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: PorkSoda on February 08, 2018, 05:21:53 pm
7-5
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Hogtimes on February 08, 2018, 05:26:10 pm
I see  an 8-4 record.  There is talent on this team,  Bielema just did not have them playing as a team.   Chemistry is so important.    Plus  19 and 20 year old's adjust quickly.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: MuskogeeHogFan on February 08, 2018, 05:53:26 pm
HDN---------9-3
BP-----------5-7
BB-----------3-9

I'm thinking 6-6 with 4-0 in non conference and a couple of SEC wins............

This is difficult to project. Bielema had 25 slots to fill in his first recruiting class. Morris had 16, maybe 2-3 more than that as it may work out eventually.

Bielema had to convert from a Petrino style offense to a Pro Style. Morris has to convert from a Pro Style to a "Clemson-like" Offense that is more similar to Petrino than Bielema.

Bielema inherited little talent that was of the kind that he needed to make his offense or defense work as he was accustomed to doing things. Morris on the other hand, inherits a much better existing talent base and depth level and it is up to him to convert it in a short time to what he wants them to do.

I think that the results of the last couple of seasons has led a lot of people to think that we have less talent on campus than we actually do. I don't expect miracles from the Morris staff, but I do think that we will achieve more than many expect.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: NuttinItUp on February 08, 2018, 05:55:08 pm
Schedule is easy next year. 6-6 while trying to build after a bad first recruiting year. (not his fault; short time window)
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: DEVIL DOG HOG on February 08, 2018, 06:05:06 pm
Right now I will have to say 6 - 6.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: ThisTeetsTaken on February 08, 2018, 06:34:24 pm
I’m most interested in seeing how we play against inferior teams.  I don’t foresee CCM struggling to beat an Eastern Illinois type program in year one.  If he does I’ll be concerned like I was when Bielema struggled to beat Samford.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 08, 2018, 06:36:26 pm
I’m most interested in seeing how we play against inferior teams.  I don’t foresee CCM struggling to beat an Eastern Illinois type program in year one.  If he does I’ll be concerned like I was when Bielema struggled to beat Samford.

Not disagreeing, just saying; remember Petrino's first two games were a 28-24 win against Western Illinois and a 28-27 win over Louisiana-Monroe.

And apart from the three subsequent games against very good teams that year, we were very competitive in all others. I really think we'll see something similar this year, which is why 5-7 won't be the end of the world.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Flrazrback on February 08, 2018, 06:40:05 pm
I tend to believe we are pretty good out of the box.. 8-4 .. Will be very happy with a post season bowl
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: JimmyJohnsonsBoat on February 08, 2018, 06:42:28 pm
I tend to believe we are pretty good out of the box.. 8-4 .. Will be very happy with a post season bowl

Might be a tad overzealous. Maybe 8-5 after a bowl win but I think 7-6
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Possible Oatmeal on February 08, 2018, 06:45:17 pm
Sure, compare with other coaches.  The honest comparisons will weigh the influence a new staff has over the team in those comparisons.  Far most useful comparisons would be comparing fifth year records.  Probably the best comparison would be a comparison of a range of years from about 3 to 8 or so if the staff was around that long, just to make the sample size more meaningful.

But sure, compare away.  I mean, you can compare anything.  It just isn't always useful.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: ThisTeetsTaken on February 08, 2018, 06:51:54 pm
Not disagreeing, just saying; remember Petrino's first two games were a 28-24 win against Western Illinois and a 28-27 win over Louisiana-Monroe.

And apart from the three subsequent games against very good teams that year, we were very competitive in all others. I really think we'll see something similar this year, which is why 5-7 won't be the end of the world.
In Petrino’s case you could see the offense coming on while the defense struggled.  With Bielema we struggled on both sides of the ball against a team not even as good as a W. IL or and E. iL.  ULM is a prettty decent program compared to the others we’ve mentioned.   

I think Morris’ style (assuming we don’t struggle to implement it) lends itself to beating inferior teams most of the time.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: parallaxpig on February 08, 2018, 07:01:20 pm
Sure, compare with other coaches.  The honest comparisons will weigh the influence a new staff has over the team in those comparisons.  Far most useful comparisons would be comparing fifth year records.  Probably the best comparison would be a comparison of a range of years from about 3 to 8 or so if the staff was around that long, just to make the sample size more meaningful.

But sure, compare away.  I mean, you can compare anything.  It just isn't always useful.

We all hope Morris has a year 8 to compare.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: LZH on February 08, 2018, 07:19:51 pm
7-5

^^^^
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: East TN HAWG on February 08, 2018, 07:43:02 pm
I think we win 7-8.  Four out of conference cupcakes, Vandy and OM (that is 6) We have a strong chance to beat MS St, Mizz, A$M.   

It’s a weak schedule for SEC standards. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: 3Scoreand10 on February 08, 2018, 08:51:03 pm
Ask this after we see the Spring and Summer practice of the Hogs and the opponents.
To many unanswered questions to even speculate today.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Boardon Hamsay on February 08, 2018, 09:00:40 pm
Frito Pi - 0
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: jkstock04 on February 08, 2018, 09:01:02 pm
Anyone who has touted the Bielema homerism narrative the past couple of years has to be giddy about this season.

Roster is absolutely loaded with returning upperclassmen like we were told would be 5 years ago.

We will see what happens, truth is probably somewhere in the middle. We will see tons of improvement and win 6 or 7 regular season games would be my guess.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: widespreadsooie on February 08, 2018, 09:04:58 pm
5-7
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: hawginbigd1 on February 08, 2018, 10:05:05 pm
I think we win 7-8.  Four out of conference cupcakes, Vandy and OM (that is 6) We have a strong chance to beat MS St, Mizz, A$M.   

It’s a weak schedule for SEC standards.
Bingo, somewhere between 6(floor) and 9(ceiling) with this schedule and the talent of this roster. Biggest question as always what kind of QB play do we get? Is there a difference maker out of the 5?
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Calling All Hogs on February 08, 2018, 10:27:39 pm
I predict Morris won't go 0-17 in SEC play.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: WBOBO on February 08, 2018, 10:32:13 pm
I say 8-4.  Coach Morris has the "It" factor in my book.  This staff is creating
a new infusion into old school Hog ball.  All you naysayers chirp away!  Ha! Ha!
Ha Ha Ha !  This guy is really that good.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on February 08, 2018, 10:42:26 pm
Between CBP and B.B: 4-8 first year
3-9 - 5-7

Way to early prediction. Let's see what they look like in the spring.


WPS!

LOLOLOLOL!! What is WRONG with y'all?

Dude, we will easily win 6+ games. I bet he gets within 1 game of HDN's 9-3.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rljjr on February 08, 2018, 11:07:09 pm
9-3 bc the pieces are there on offense and our D just got tons better with the Chief and new D staff.

CCM wins SEC Coach of the Year.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: plumbhog on February 09, 2018, 12:43:05 am
9-3 bc the pieces are there on offense and our D just got tons better with the Chief and new D staff.

CCM wins SEC Coach of the Year.
I'll go along with this^^^^
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: SooiecidetillNuttgone on February 09, 2018, 01:11:09 am
5-7

5-7 to 7-5 at best.
Gonna be a big transition.......Again
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Jimbob111 on February 09, 2018, 01:54:05 am
HDN---------9-3
BP-----------5-7
BB-----------3-9

I'm thinking 6-6 with 4-0 in non conference and a couple of SEC wins............

When I think back to Nutt's first season, I think that Danny Ford left a lot of talent. I see Bielema as recruiting a lot of the same type of players and I'm hoping CCM will be able to utilize that talent like Nutt utilized Ford's.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Al Boarland on February 09, 2018, 06:17:52 am
I think we win 7-8.  Four out of conference cupcakes, Vandy and OM (that is 6) We have a strong chance to beat MS St, Mizz, A$M.   

It’s a weak schedule for SEC standards.

By what measure are Vandy and OM guaranteed wins?
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: razorjacket43 on February 09, 2018, 06:34:11 am
I call at least 6 but would'nt be suprised to see 8 or 9 with the schedule. That being said it all depends on how well the players adapt on both sides of the ball. If we score 40 but give up 41 then we are the same as last year but if the Chief changes our D then we win more than people think. If the players adapt to this O like most of them should cause most (this is an assumption) played this pace and similar style in HS picks up on CM style then we will go bowling and have a fun year and team to watch
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: pigture perfect on February 09, 2018, 06:39:02 am
I’ll be satisfied with 6-6. I would be elated with 8-4.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rzrbaxfan on February 09, 2018, 08:10:26 am
This is difficult to project. Bielema had 25 slots to fill in his first recruiting class. Morris had 16, maybe 2-3 more than that as it may work out eventually.

Bielema had to convert from a Petrino style offense to a Pro Style. Morris has to convert from a Pro Style to a "Clemson-like" Offense that is more similar to Petrino than Bielema.

Bielema inherited little talent that was of the kind that he needed to make his offense or defense work as he was accustomed to doing things. Morris on the other hand, inherits a much better existing talent base and depth level and it is up to him to convert it in a short time to what he wants them to do.

I think that the results of the last couple of seasons has led a lot of people to think that we have less talent on campus than we actually do. I don't expect miracles from the Morris staff, but I do think that we will achieve more than many expect.

Another thing that makes it difficult to compare first year records is that the SEC, and in particular the SECW, is not the same as it was in HDN, BP and BB's first year.  For HDN in 98, the power was all in the east.  LSU and Bama were terrible.  For BP's first year, Fla and Bama were the top SEC teams, and he had both on his first year schedule, plus 2 ranked non-conference games.  In BB's first year, the  west was loaded.  6 of 7 played in the post season and 4 of those 6 finished in the top 25.

We can only speculate about the landscape of the SEC at this point, but I have a feeling that it is going to be tougher than the SEC that Nutt faced his first year, but maybe not quite as difficult as what BB faced.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: DeltaBoy on February 09, 2018, 08:16:41 am
With the schedule we got for 2018 I can see 6-6 up to 8-4 .
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rtr on February 09, 2018, 08:18:47 am
I think a lot depends on those 13 redshirts, thay maybe the key to a "good" year.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: hotdog hog on February 09, 2018, 10:04:27 am
If the energy and enthusiasm he's displayed thus far translates to the field, I have high expectations.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rhames on February 09, 2018, 11:19:07 am
A 4-8 team getting a new coach, a new offense, a new defense with other big questions marks? We don't even know who the QB will be. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. 6 wins next year would be fantastic, but I'm thinking more on the 5 range with a lot of excitement going into 2019.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 09, 2018, 11:24:56 am
A 4-8 team getting a new coach, a new offense, a new defense with other big questions marks? We don't even know who the QB will be. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. 6 wins next year would be fantastic, but I'm thinking more on the 5 range with a lot of excitement going into 2019.

Exactly.

Pre-2017 season: This is year 5 for Bielema. Best team he's had. He's established here. These players are all his. Less than 10 wins is a bust. Go 4-8.
Pre-2018 season: New coach. New assistants. New offense. New defense. Essentially same team as last year. 8-4? Sure, no problem.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: code red on February 09, 2018, 11:28:51 am
Schedule is easy next year. 6-6 while trying to build after a bad first recruiting year. (not his fault; short time window)
Agreed could be 7-5 but....we will lose a couple we maybe should win.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: East TN HAWG on February 09, 2018, 11:59:05 am
By what measure are Vandy and OM guaranteed wins?
They suck.  We've beat OM how many times in a row, and you will start seeing the decline due to the violations.  Attrition and poor recruiting has been the status quo over the past 2-3 years. 

Vandy has improved, but they are still Vandy.  They will be near the bottom of the weaker division.  We should beat them every year.   
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rhames on February 09, 2018, 12:15:19 pm
They suck.  We've beat OM how many times in a row, and you will start seeing the decline due to the violations.  Attrition and poor recruiting has been the status quo over the past 2-3 years. 

Vandy has improved, but they are still Vandy.  They will be near the bottom of the weaker division.  We should beat them every year.   


Lol
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: The NewEra on February 09, 2018, 12:21:37 pm
9-3 bc the pieces are there on offense and our D just got tons better with the Chief and new D staff.

CCM wins SEC Coach of the Year.

If he does this and I hope he does.  Recruiting will take off like a rocket.  This staff will put in the hard work, I'm sure of that.  What they need to take this team to the next level is a really good season with a lot of media buzz.  Your prophesy above would be just the catalyst needed.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: GalaHawg on February 09, 2018, 12:26:46 pm
6-6 is the safe bet... If the QB situation turns out better than expected, then it may go up to 8-4... but in a bad QB fit to system situation (coupled with lack of experience), it may be 4-8. QB situation and ability to pass rush on defense will determine where we end up between 4-8 and 8-4.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: DLUXHOG on February 09, 2018, 12:31:14 pm
15-0

Hammerdown

I’m drinking to this! +1!
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: hogcards on February 09, 2018, 01:29:12 pm
Hogs should never win below 7 games.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: 195bc on February 09, 2018, 01:56:55 pm
Offense is probably going to score a lot of points. Defense? Who knows.
Last year, with an SMU team that had mediocre talent for even teams outside the Power 5, SMU scored plenty of points against their best opponents. In their five games against Navy, UCF, Memphis, Houston and TCU, SMU average scoring 33.4 points. Those five schools averaged giving up 25.42 points/game. So Morris showed last year his team can score against the toughest teams on their schedule (including teams that had good defenses). For example, TCU allowed 17.6 points/game. SMU scored 36 against them. Only OU and Stanford score more points against TCU. The stories of SMU against Navy and Memphis were similar.
So with a fair amount of talent on the Hill and a dynamic offense, we should win all four non-conference games and beat Vanderbilt or Missouri. That leaves losses to Auburn, A&M, Alabama, LSU and Mississippi State. I'm going to say we beat Ole Miss at home since they didn't look great last year and lost Patterson. So that appears to leave us at 6-6, which would be OK for a first-year coach.
Now, if the offensive line play improves a little and with a little luck ... 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Been10Hog on February 09, 2018, 02:00:34 pm
non-conference, the Mississippis, Mizzou and Vandy......8-4
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: HogPharmer on February 09, 2018, 02:01:45 pm
I’m drinking to this! +1!

Realistically though, I'm gonna go with 6-6 +/-1 game.... I'd just like to see some competitiveness out of our team this year.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Hogforlife on February 09, 2018, 02:09:33 pm
9-3 bc the pieces are there on offense and our D just got tons better with the Chief and new D staff.

CCM wins SEC Coach of the Year.

I like the way you think.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: texas tush hog on February 09, 2018, 03:08:15 pm
Agreed could be 7-5 but....we will lose a couple we maybe should win.


I don't see a Morris team being upset. I believe it's going to be very difficult, but possible to go 4-4 in the SEC. That computes to 8-4, which is very achievable with our current talent level, which is much better than people give us credit for. Anything above that, and we better start watching our sixes for teams poaching our coaching staff. Colorado State on the road, and North Texas could present challenges, however, although both are winnable.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rhames on February 09, 2018, 03:35:01 pm
It would be interesting to see what people were predicting for Bielema's first year and Petrino's. My memory says a lot of the same predictions  as this thread.



The truth is none of us know for sure how much talent is or isn't on the roster. Not getting the ball to TJ Hammonds enough doesn't provide enough information either way. Bret absolutely under achieved but I'm not so sure he left a stock pile of talent for a new coach with a totally different philosophy to come in right away and go 8-4.


I could end up being totally surprised and totally wrong. I hope I am.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: gohogs1969 on February 09, 2018, 03:37:19 pm
Great chance to win 8.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Dark Helmet Hog on February 09, 2018, 03:38:03 pm
The schedule for next year is more favorable than it's been in a long time. It could help produce a better record than what most would expect.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rhames on February 09, 2018, 03:41:33 pm
The schedule for next year is more favorable than it's been in a long time. It could help produce a better record than what most would expect.


Hope so. We say the same thing every year.

Colorado State on the road should be a win but not a walk in the park. Miss State won't be easy as some suggest. Nether will Vanderbilt or Missouri. 2 or those are SEC road games and have pretty talented qbs



Ole Miss will put up a fight too.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: jabberjawls on February 09, 2018, 04:35:24 pm
5 -7 and everybody will be talking about how great a job he did.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Hawgphat on February 09, 2018, 05:25:04 pm
I simply have no clue how this upcoming season will prove to pan out.  Morris & Co. will be employing their predetermined, entirely-different-approach offensive and defensive schemes utilizing a player complement procured and deployed by a differently-minded-and-motivated set of recruiters, realigning the depth chart pecking orders and revamping and reassigning players into alternative slot positions all over the map.

There will be a mountain of "newness" for the Hogs veterans to have to conform to.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: elviscat on February 09, 2018, 06:27:43 pm
I see us winning 8 games this next year.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Pork Twain on February 10, 2018, 03:47:18 am
W 9/1 vs. Eastern Illinois TBA
W 9/8 at Colorado State TBA
W 9/15 vs. North Texas TBA
L 9/22 at Auburn TBA
W 9/29 vs. Texas A&M TBA
L 10/6 vs. Alabama TBA
W 10/13 vs. Ole Miss TBA
W 10/20 vs. Tulsa TBA
W 10/27 vs. Vanderbilt TBA
L 11/10 vs. LSU TBA
W 11/17 at Mississippi State
W 11/24 at Missouri
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Kevin on February 10, 2018, 05:06:56 am
8 with a bowl win. is my prediction for right now
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: parallaxpig on February 10, 2018, 07:36:48 am
W 9/1 vs. Eastern Illinois TBA
W 9/8 at Colorado State TBA
W 9/15 vs. North Texas TBA
L 9/22 at Auburn TBA
W 9/29 vs. Texas A&M TBA        Coaching change
L 10/6 vs. Alabama TBA
W 10/13 vs. Ole Miss TBA              Coaching change
W 10/20 vs. Tulsa TBA
W 10/27 vs. Vanderbilt TBA
L 11/10 vs. LSU TBA                  Weak coach
W 11/17 at Mississippi State
W 11/24 at Missouri


5 games where we will be the favorite. A couple of coaching changes like us which are a wild card and a weak coach named Eddie O.  I think six are definitely doable........
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on February 10, 2018, 10:30:15 am
6-6 is the safe bet... If the QB situation turns out better than expected, then it may go up to 8-4... but in a bad QB fit to system situation (coupled with lack of experience), it may be 4-8. QB situation and ability to pass rush on defense will determine where we end up between 4-8 and 8-4.
Why do you people keep pulling this lie out of your rectums..? Are you a Chad Morris expert? Have you even watched High School highlights of the guys we have on campus? Have you ever heard this quote from Chad Morris?

...“I’ve met with a lot of players one-on-one and one of the things they’ve talked about is Cole,” Morris said. “They talk about his leadership and he’s been instrumental in making an impact in the time he’s been here.

“Obviously the best player is going to play. He’s big enough. He can throw the ball well enough. Watching him run, it looks like he can run well enough. Now, can we move those chains? If he can move the chains, then we’re all happy. There’s no guarantee. We’ll find out in spring football how this thing goes.”
...
 Here's the link -->https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/Chad-Morris-Joe-Craddock-excited-about-Arkansas-Razorbacks-quarterback-signees-114932058
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on February 10, 2018, 10:34:23 am
5 -7 and everybody will be talking about how great a job he did.

 Going by your post history I would think you're just hating, but even so I WOULD be happy with 5-7 as long as they improve throughout the season.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: The NewEra on February 10, 2018, 10:39:26 am
W 9/1 vs. Eastern Illinois TBA
W 9/8 at Colorado State TBA
W 9/15 vs. North Texas TBA
L 9/22 at Auburn TBA
W 9/29 vs. Texas A&M TBA
L 10/6 vs. Alabama TBA
W 10/13 vs. Ole Miss TBA
W 10/20 vs. Tulsa TBA
W 10/27 vs. Vanderbilt TBA
L 11/10 vs. LSU TBA
W 11/17 at Mississippi State
W 11/24 at Missouri

As optimistic as that looks, I think it's totally achievable and just the shot in the arm this program needs.  That's a potential 10 win season with a bowl win.  This staff would have us rocking in the recruiting world with a first season like this. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on February 10, 2018, 01:23:34 pm
7 wins if no impactful injuries. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Lakerhog on February 10, 2018, 02:03:55 pm
6 wins is the floor, IMO. I see 8-9 wins.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Tim Harris on February 10, 2018, 02:21:37 pm
I expect them to have us right around bowl eligible with quite a few shoot outs next year.  It is just going to be depend who gets the lucky breaks.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: jgphillips3 on February 10, 2018, 02:30:30 pm
7-5 or 8-4.  Unlike CBP who was left nothing by HDN and CBB who was a buffoon, Morris has some talent and a plan to go along with a softer schedule.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on February 10, 2018, 03:07:24 pm
7-5 or 8-4.  Unlike CBP who was left nothing by HDN and CBB who was a buffoon, Morris has some talent and a plan to go along with a softer schedule.
CBB left more than he inherited. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: arlhog on February 10, 2018, 03:59:04 pm
I'm just hoping for 6 wins.   I think we're lucky to get those 6.   Look at CBP's first 2 years.   We struggled with inferior teams well into year 2.  This thing doesn't just get turned around over night.  You don't change the entire system and win a lot of games at this level.   
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on February 10, 2018, 04:00:21 pm
I'm just hoping for 6 wins.   I think we're lucky to get those 6.   Look at CBP's first 2 years.   We struggled with inferior teams well into year 2.  This thing doesn't just get turned around over night.  You don't change the entire system and win a lot of games at this level.

CBP should have won 6 first season.  Choked away one at UK. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: tusksincolorado on February 10, 2018, 04:09:24 pm

3-9 hopefully not 2-10....
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Al Boarland on February 10, 2018, 04:13:25 pm

I don't see a Morris team being upset.

Wow. You have this guy walking on water.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: jgphillips3 on February 10, 2018, 04:16:52 pm
CBB left more than he inherited. 

Yep.  Shame he was an idiot who didn’t know what to do with it.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Al Boarland on February 10, 2018, 04:20:54 pm
They suck.  We've beat OM how many times in a row, and you will start seeing the decline due to the violations.  Attrition and poor recruiting has been the status quo over the past 2-3 years. 

Vandy has improved, but they are still Vandy.  They will be near the bottom of the weaker division.  We should beat them every year.

I just don’t think we are in a position to say “well they’re still ______”. Those are toss up games.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on February 10, 2018, 04:21:43 pm
Yep.  Shame he was an idiot who didn’t know what to do with it.

Partly.  Injuries caught up too this last season.  Getting players like Pulley and Hayden back should make a difference. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: arlhog on February 10, 2018, 05:03:11 pm
CBP should have won 6 first season.  Choked away one at UK.
We probably should have won 6 but I don't think cpg told the running backs to fumble twice.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: HOGINTENNESSEE on February 10, 2018, 05:08:18 pm
Easiest schedule since 2011.  I'll go 7-5. But 8-4 is possible
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: jmark on February 10, 2018, 05:16:21 pm
CCM needs to go 4-4 in the sec or he starts his conference record in the negative.  bart couldn't recover from a negative conference record
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: redleg on February 10, 2018, 05:29:10 pm
Non-conference:
Eastern Illinois - W
North Texas - W
Tulsa - W
@ Colorado St - W

SEC:
Alabama - L
@ Auburn - L
LSU - L
Texas A&M - L
@ Mississippi St - W
Ole Miss - W
@ Mizzou - W
Vanderbilt - W

8-4 / 4-4
Liberty Bowl, Music City Bowl, Belk Bowl are all possible destinations.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Arkansas Hog in Dallas on February 10, 2018, 05:33:27 pm
CBP should have won 6 first season.  Choked away one at UK.

Hell, if he has a competent kicker that team goes 8-4
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Justagp on February 10, 2018, 06:19:57 pm
7-5 or 8-4.  Unlike CBP who was left nothing by HDN and CBB who was a buffoon, Morris has some talent and a plan to go along with a softer schedule.
Agree
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: HOGINTENNESSEE on February 10, 2018, 06:30:07 pm
CBP should have won 6 first season.  Choked away one at UK. 

D'Anthony Curtis never recovered from that fumble
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: King Kong on February 10, 2018, 06:33:29 pm
CCM needs to go 4-4 in the sec or he starts his conference record in the negative.  bart couldn't recover from a negative conference record

Well in part because he only had one season with a conference record of .500 or better.

But with the Vandy, Ole Piss and Miss St without Mullen. I feel we have a good chance to start off well.

A 7 or 8 wins season could do wonders
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: King Kong on February 10, 2018, 06:43:29 pm
CBB left more than he inherited.

I agree with this. Offense has a lot of skill. LB and Secondary actually have quality player. IMO the biggest question marks are Oline and Dline.

Oline I expect some improvement just from teams not being able to stack the box as much and CCM’s quick passing game.

Dline got a huge boost from Gerald committing. We can now field a solid starting Dline with Agim, Capp, Guidry and Gerald. Combine that with some the experience of TJ Smith and potential player movements like Randy Ramsey and LaFrance to DE and we may have something. (LaFrance and Ramsey are just assumptions by me after hearing CCM and Caldwell mentioning players moving down)
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on February 10, 2018, 06:45:51 pm
I agree with this. Offense has a lot of skill. LB and Secondary actually have quality player. IMO the biggest question marks are Oline and Dline.

Oline I expect some improvement just from teams not being able to stack the box as much and CCM’s quick passing game.

Dline got a huge boost from Gerald committing. We can now field a solid starting Dline with Agim, Capp, Guidry and Gerald. Combine that with some the experience of TJ Smith and potential player movements like Randy Ramsey and LaFrance to DE and we may have something

Yep.  Question is in the lines and qb.  At least we have options and competition at qb.  Whomever it is should be effective.  I think the oline may be helped by scheme. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: PORKULATOR on February 10, 2018, 06:46:07 pm
7-5
this
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: King Kong on February 10, 2018, 06:52:18 pm
Yep.  Question is in the lines and qb.  At least we have options and competition at qb.  Whomever it is should be effective.  I think the oline may be helped by scheme.

Yeah, QB has some questions. Cole will have to be more accurate to be the guy we need. But he showed some potential and I personally think Hyatt fits as well (of course that is hard to confirm as I haven’t ever seen him take a DI snap)
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: razorbackchamps94 on February 10, 2018, 07:09:02 pm
6 and 6 ... Schedule not hard like in years past
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: GoHogs1091 on February 10, 2018, 07:15:53 pm
The coaching will be a lot better, so every game should be won except the following games.

Auburn
Texas A&M
Alabama
LSU

The main reason for those 4 losses will be because of those teams having more depth.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: oldfart on February 10, 2018, 08:32:34 pm
This is difficult to project. Bielema had 25 slots to fill in his first recruiting class. Morris had 16, maybe 2-3 more than that as it may work out eventually.

Bielema had to convert from a Petrino style offense to a Pro Style. Morris has to convert from a Pro Style to a "Clemson-like" Offense that is more similar to Petrino than Bielema.

Bielema inherited little talent that was of the kind that he needed to make his offense or defense work as he was accustomed to doing things. Morris on the other hand, inherits a much better existing talent base and depth level and it is up to him to convert it in a short time to what he wants them to do.

I think that the results of the last couple of seasons has led a lot of people to think that we have less talent on campus than we actually do. I don't expect miracles from the Morris staff, but I do think that we will achieve more than many expect.

I agree on the talent part MHF... while we may not be saturated with talent a number of our players had multiple offers from major college programs so they were well thought of coming out of high school or Juco ranks.   We may not be as deep as we would like but i think baring injury we can put a good O and D on the field. 
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Pork Twain on February 10, 2018, 09:12:12 pm
As optimistic as that looks, I think it's totally achievable and just the shot in the arm this program needs.  That's a potential 10 win season with a bowl win.  This staff would have us rocking in the recruiting world with a first season like this. 
#Thisis1998
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: DeltaBoy on February 11, 2018, 09:42:59 pm
It going to be fun!
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on February 11, 2018, 09:45:53 pm
It going to be fun!
Yes it will be. Hopefully we quit giving the TAM game away in OT once again.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rtr on February 11, 2018, 10:09:31 pm
Not disagreeing, just saying; remember Petrino's first two games were a 28-24 win against Western Illinois and a 28-27 win over Louisiana-Monroe.

And apart from the three subsequent games against very good teams that year, we were very competitive in all others. I really think we'll see something similar this year, which is why 5-7 won't be the end of the world.
We played Bama, Texas and Florida when they were all contenders for the BCS.  In fact if there was a four team playoff all three would have been in along with Oklahoma.  Big 12 was pretty salty back then, too bad Texas has absolutely burned it to the ground.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rtr on February 11, 2018, 10:15:01 pm
We went 7-4-1 Hatfield's first year and his flexbone was fun with Brad Taylor and yes Danny Nutt as qb.  Nutt almost rode the momentum of an 8-0 start all the way to the BCS, Danny Ford left a complete football team.  Petrino had to start all over but you could see the progress being made.  I never did feel optimistic under Bielema, the Rutgers game was a bad omen. 

I predict bowl eligibility with a major upset along the way.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: whoopigLakeCity on February 14, 2018, 11:06:53 am
I call 9 wins with a bowl win
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: bphi11ips on February 14, 2018, 12:18:23 pm
The schedule sets up for 3-0.  This coach and staff will not let the team give up if they lose the next 3.  A&M is a very winnable game.  Arkansas should beat Ole Miss, Tulsa and Vanderbilt and go into LSU in Fayetteville no worse than 6-3.  Momentum and a packed house could deliver the same result as 2014.  The last two games are on the road but winnable.

The big question marks entering the season will most likely be at QB and along the OL.  There is a lot of talent in the OL and at the skilled positions.  The QB doesn't need to carry the offense, just make good decisions and distribute the ball to players in space.  The first half of the season should give the offense a chance to gel.  The defense will be much better from the get go. 

I think we're going to see an entirely different football team than the one we've seen since Auburn in 2016.  2018 should be a fun season.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 14, 2018, 12:45:29 pm
The schedule sets up for 3-0.  This coach and staff will not let the team give up if they lose the next 3.  A&M is a very winnable game.  Arkansas should beat Ole Miss, Tulsa and Vanderbilt and go into LSU in Fayetteville no worse than 6-3.  Momentum and a packed house could deliver the same result as 2014.  The last two games are on the road but winnable.

The big question marks entering the season will most likely be at QB and along the OL.  There is a lot of talent in the OL and at the skilled positions.  The QB doesn't need to carry the offense, just make good decisions and distribute the ball to players in space.  The first half of the season should give the offense a chance to gel.  The defense will be much better from the get go. 

I think we're going to see an entirely different football team than the one we've seen since Auburn in 2016.  2018 should be a fun season.

Really looking forward to this season of Inside Edition: bphi11

Agree with most of your points here. However, I don't think Colorado State is a gimme. They run a great offense under Bobo and have enough talent to keep it interesting.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Hawgzinbowlz on February 14, 2018, 01:00:21 pm
6-8 wins depending on how long it takes adjusting to CCM offense and CJC defensive scheme. I’m confident Coach Morris will have our best players on the field at the same time, and understand who the best players are. “GO HOGS”
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Earth Hog Fan on February 14, 2018, 01:29:36 pm
9-3 bc the pieces are there on offense and our D just got tons better with the Chief and new D staff.

CCM wins SEC Coach of the Year.

You sing and I’ll pat my foot. I really like the tune you are playing.  I would not be shocked to see this come to pass. Coach Morris has so many more options at QB as well as other positions within this team that he did not have at SMU. Expect this team to exceed our expectations this year and in the future. I think Coach Chad Morris could be the reincarnation of Coach Frank Broyles. For all you nay Sayers on here, you better hitch up the wagon or you are going to be left behind.  GO HOGS!


 
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I say 8-4.  Coach Morris has the "It" factor in my book.  This staff is creating
a new infusion into old school Hog ball.  All you naysayers chirp away!  Ha! Ha!
Ha Ha Ha !  This guy is really that good.


 
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9-3 bc the pieces are there on offense and our D just got tons better with the Chief and new D staff.

CCM wins SEC Coach of the Year.

Quote from: HogPharmer on February 08, 2018, 05:19:50 pm
15-0

Hammerdown

I’m drinking to this! +1!




Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: PorkSoda on February 14, 2018, 01:33:38 pm
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/grading-the-season-openers-for-all-20-first-year-college-football-coaches/

this is a list of first year coaches last year.  I don't have time right now so I'm just posting the article, but I'm curious what they average # of wins ended up being for first year coaches last year.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: bphi11ips on February 14, 2018, 01:37:00 pm
Really looking forward to this season of Inside Edition: bphi11

Agree with most of your points here. However, I don't think Colorado State is a gimme. They run a great offense under Bobo and have enough talent to keep it interesting.

Agreed Colorado State isn't a gimme, but they lost about 90% of their production on offense from last year.  They killed Oregon State in their new stadium, but Oregon State was historically bad.  We should win that game.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: volkh on February 14, 2018, 01:41:36 pm
327 - 0.  I got a feeling this is the year and reality will have no base in my false opinion!
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Warrior Way 22 on February 14, 2018, 01:45:57 pm
I could see 7-8 wins before the bowl. I think we will get all 4 non-conference (I'm not saying it will be a cake walk, but we SHOULD win those games). I also think we will beat Vandy, Missouri, and Ole Miss. On the fence about A&M and Mississippi St, but if we split with those 2 then it's 8 wins. I think we would all be happy with that outcome.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: HeathWimp on February 14, 2018, 07:32:18 pm
4-8.  Lose to CSU, beat the other non-conference teams.  Beat Vandy for an SEC win.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: HeathWimp on February 14, 2018, 07:41:19 pm
It would be interesting to see what people were predicting for Bielema's first year and Petrino's. My memory says a lot of the same predictions  as this thread.



The truth is none of us know for sure how much talent is or isn't on the roster. Not getting the ball to TJ Hammonds enough doesn't provide enough information either way. Bret absolutely under achieved but I'm not so sure he left a stock pile of talent for a new coach with a totally different philosophy to come in right away and go 8-4.


I could end up being totally surprised and totally wrong. I hope I am.

I predicted 3-9 for Bert's first season.  I was called an idiot, troll, etc. by the people who were predicting 8 or 9 wins.  We saw how that turned out.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: LZH on February 14, 2018, 08:37:06 pm
I’m drinking to this! +1!

That had a big hand in why fat boy is no longer our coach......go easy.   :P
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: cjack on February 14, 2018, 09:27:08 pm
8 - 4 and a bowl game against Ok State. We don't have quite enough firepower in year one to keep up with the mullet so we lose in a shootout. Finish 8 - 5.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: SooieGeneris on February 15, 2018, 12:17:56 am
CBP should have won 6 first season.  Choked away one at UK.

That team could have eked out 6 wins, but also could have been 0-12 or 2-10. The biggest win was by 8 points over Tulsa and we hung on by our fingernails.

Had to come from behind in the 4th quarter to beat W. Ill..

Had to come from way behind to beat ULM on a 4th down pass to Chris Gragg, a true freshman, his first catch in college.

Beat Auburn on the road with a TD pass by Joe Adams.

Beat Tulsa by 8 in large part due to a kickoff return for a TD by Dennis Johnson.

Beat LSU on a 4th down pass from Casey Dick to London Crawford.

Every win and a few of the losses went right to the end.. 

A lot of fans were complaining about BP after that season, but it was truly a testament as to how good he can be that that team won 5 games.

With Dick at QB, a bunch of freshmen WRs, a 170 lb RB, no returning LBs or safeties really. DMac and Felix Jones left with a year remaining.. With Hooten as HC, that team might have won 2 or 3 at most.
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: SooieGeneris on February 15, 2018, 01:00:41 am
I'm not ready to make a prediction yet. I'll wait until after the spring game. My gut says 6 wins is likely with a possibility of 7 or 8, but that's only if we have good luck with injuries and get some breaks.

Like not getting Marc Curles' crew all season, unless it's vs E. Ill. or a game like 'Bama in which we're big underdogs anyway. That guy and his crew are good for a minimum of a TD a game for our opponents going back at least to 2009 at Fla.

The thing most people forget about schedules is: it's not just who you play, but when you play them oftentimes.

For instance, in my research I discovered not one team on our schedule has a bye the week before we play them. Why would anyone think they need a bye to get ready for us in the BB era? They might have needed a bye afterward to ice down the QB's arm from 5-6 TD passes and them and the RBs hitting their heads on the goal posts over and over..

3 of our SEC foes play 'Bama the week before they play us, A&M, LSU and MSU. Those three will spend a lot of time in the tub that week. It hasn't helped much vs LSU the last 2 years, but Bert is gone and Cajun Bert is still there.

Auburn has played us with a vengeance the last 5 years. Gus' arch enemy is gone, so the coach scorned thing is not in play, plus they play LSU the week before us. The heat really got turned up on Gus after channeling his inner Bert and blowing a big halftime lead in 2017. Plus UA got him a big raise... a let down might be in order by them.

I don't see Col. State as a gimme, they are not a cupcake for sure. I like our chances though because we catch them between their instate rival CU Buffaloes and Florida the week after us.

We have two tough stretches, at Auburn, A&M at Jerry World and 'Bama at home in 3 consecutive weeks.

The 2nd one is at the end with LSU, @ MSU and @ Mizzou after a bye before LSU. A lot will depend on getting on a roll and avoiding injuries.

In the 3rd year of Cajun Bert with no Guice, a new QB and the 3rd OC in three years, a guy who has not been an OC in like 20 years, the Corndogs may start slipping this year. I think they will.

MSU will be a bit of a mystery team. A lot of returning players including Fitzgerald, but a new staff. I'm not one to dismiss Joe Moorhead. He was a HC at Fordham before going to PSU as OC, kind of like Chip Kelly going from OC at New Hampshire or some outpost to OC at Oregon, then HC.

Not saying he is a Chip Kelly, but he is a very highly regarded coach and took an awful Penn St. offense and made them into an explosive one. Then he put together a good recruiting class there with not a lot of connections to the area.

Then Mizzou is another mystery team. That offense is really good, very explosive at times, but mostly vs weak defenses. They did not beat a team with a winning record in 2017. IMO Odom is in over his head and most of the success came in spite of a weak defense, supposedly his specialty. Who does THAT sound like?

Derek Dooley as OC? Not sure that is a good move either. Dooley has never been an OC at any level I read somewhere.

The only bad things I see about the schedule are that 'Bama plays ULL the week before us and OM plays ULM the week prior. I really don't think it would matter on 'Bama, they could be playing anybody between ULL and the Patriots the week before us and still be favored by at least 2 TDs. It might help OM though to have a tomato can team before us, as long as John L. Smith isn't "coaching" for OM..

Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: hogsolutely on February 16, 2018, 08:52:51 am
Luckily the scheduled sets up where the pigs could get 6 to 7 wins.  But, this is a completely new team coaching staff, etc.  I also wouldn't be surprised if we only got 4 or 5 wins.  I like our schedule set up for a new coach.     
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rzrbaxfan on February 16, 2018, 11:09:17 am
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/grading-the-season-openers-for-all-20-first-year-college-football-coaches/

this is a list of first year coaches last year.  I don't have time right now so I'm just posting the article, but I'm curious what they average # of wins ended up being for first year coaches last year.

Here's some info....

22 first year coaches
Avg win total: 6.4
Coaches with 10+ wins: 4
Coaches with winning records: 14

Take away the G5's and just look at the P5 coaches...
10 first year coaches
Avg win total: 6.4
Coaches with 10+ wins: 1 (Oklahoma)
Coaches with winning records: 6

OU had a phenomenal year, and Riley walked into about as good of a situation as any first year coach could expect.  Similarly, Baylor had a terrible year, and Snow started off in a pretty terrible situation for a first year head coach.  If you consider them outliers and exclude them, first year P5 coaches averaged, you guess it, 6.4 wins.

Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: Dominicanhog on February 16, 2018, 11:52:27 am
I'd be happy with a bowl and promise for the future.. I'll hope for better but worse would not be unexpected.....
Title: Re: Chad Morris first year W-L will be compared to other coaches
Post by: rzrbaxfan on February 16, 2018, 12:39:09 pm
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/grading-the-season-openers-for-all-20-first-year-college-football-coaches/

this is a list of first year coaches last year.  I don't have time right now so I'm just posting the article, but I'm curious what they average # of wins ended up being for first year coaches last year.

More data....

In 2016, there were 27 first year head coaches.  Minnesota's first year coach was gone at the end of his first year, so he'll be excluded from this.  For the 26 others who had a year 2 in 2017, I found something interesting....

Year 1 average wins:  5.6       
Year 2 average wins: 6.3

For the 26 coaches, 5 saw no improvement in their win total from year 1 to year 2; 7 did worse in year 2, averaging 2.5 more losses; and 14 improved on their win total from year 1 to year 2, averaging almost 3 more wins.

Now, over 60% of those 2016 first year coaches were G5.  Let's look at just the 10 coaches from P5....

Year 1 average wins:  5.7       
Year 2 average wins: 7.9

For these 10 P5 2016 first year coaches coaches, only 2 did worse in their second year (Lovie at Ill and Fuente at Va Tech, 10 wins 2016 9 in 2017).  8 of the 10 did better in year 2, averaging 3 more wins in the second year.