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RB Sports Discussion => Monday Morning Quarterback => Topic started by: 3Scoreand10 on February 04, 2018, 07:29:59 pm

Title: Chandler Morris
Post by: 3Scoreand10 on February 04, 2018, 07:29:59 pm
Curious to know if Coach Morris' son Chandler will continue to play at Highland Park or transfer to an Arkansas school?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Diamondbackhog on February 04, 2018, 07:41:09 pm
It has been reported that he will stay at HP. I wish he would come to AR, but don't blame him for staying.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Sivad on February 04, 2018, 07:56:58 pm
When your dad is head football coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks - you move to Fayetteville, AR
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Flrazrback on February 04, 2018, 07:57:12 pm
He has a State Championship to win. Should be the starting QB this year. Be interesting to watch how he does.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 04, 2018, 08:00:01 pm
When your dad is head football coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks - you move to Fayetteville, AR

Texas football>Arkansas 7a west football.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: hogmolar on February 04, 2018, 08:01:44 pm
Texas football>Arkansas 7a west football.
But what about 2a south Arkansas football? Could we please discuss the difference?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on February 04, 2018, 08:06:21 pm
When your dad is head football coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks - you move to Fayetteville, AR
normally. but, not at THAT High School when you are the heir apparent.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: HogNTX on February 04, 2018, 08:16:56 pm
All the reporting is that he is staying at HP which makes sense for the Morris's, Chandler, and anyone who has moved during their late high school career.

It doesn't make sense to Arkansas fans because they will think that Morris isn't fully invested in Arkansas.

Personally I think he needs to make the decision on what's best for his family. For his son to have to come in to a new program and learn everything about it with the enormous pressure of being the Head Hog's son and then compete against the QB there which means he can't win the competition because even if he does it's because he's the Morris's kid. It's a recipe for disappointment all around.

Plus... think of the recruiting side... CBB burned bridges with so many HS coaches in Texas that the hiring of Morris has rebuilt to the Hill. But to have his son playing weekly in Texas HS football at a great program only serves to strengthen those bonds. His son is an active recruiter so far for us and I can't imagine that changing on Friday nights in the fall.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RockyMtnHog on February 04, 2018, 08:46:29 pm
Texas football>Arkansas 7a west football.

If Arkansas had 9A Level football it would not be to the level of Texas 5A.  Texas 5A and 6A football is like playing college football.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 04, 2018, 09:25:43 pm
But what about 2a south Arkansas football? Could we please discuss the difference?  ;) ;D

Texas high school football>Arkansas football.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Hoggish1 on February 04, 2018, 09:34:52 pm
When your dad is head football coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks - you move to Fayetteville, AR

Why?  If he's a senior and the starter on a team with a chance to win state championship, you stay. 
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: HogNTX on February 04, 2018, 09:38:47 pm
Why?  If he's a senior and the starter on a team with a chance to win state championship, you stay.

Junior starter
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: TebowHater on February 04, 2018, 09:38:57 pm
From someone who isn't totally drooling over Morris, more than happy to say this:

Chandler was the best hog caller of any new person to the U of A that I have ever seen. This sounds sort of like a joke but I am serious, it was outstanding. And he was evidently responsible for the above average performance of the whole family. Morris was later quoted as saying Chandler got the whole family together and made them practice over and over the night before because "if we're gonna do this, we're gonna do it dang right."

Love it
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: 3kgthog on February 04, 2018, 09:45:24 pm
Imagine your kid is the QB of a team he loves. Are you gonna tell him he’s got to leave for a new team and school? I certainly wouldn’t. Not at that age.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on February 04, 2018, 09:47:13 pm
Tell me why we care where CM's kid plays HS football?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: PharmacistHog on February 04, 2018, 09:56:30 pm
Tell me why we care where CM's kid plays HS football?

Just because YOU don’t care doesn’t mean nobody else does. Its the offseason and its the head football coach’s son and could impact arkansas highschool football.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on February 04, 2018, 10:03:31 pm
Just because YOU don’t care doesn’t mean nobody else does. Its the offseason and its the head football coach’s son and could impact arkansas highschool football.

LOL. I didn't say I didn't care. 
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 04, 2018, 10:12:59 pm
Tell me why we care where CM's kid plays HS football?
I’m with you on this. 

From my perspective, this is folks trying to stir up trouble when, in reality this is a family decision. More to the point this is the Morris’ decision to make and we don’t get a say so in the matter - as it should be.

How far should we take being involved in a family’s ability to decide what happens w their child. For example, the ADs son is going to the U of Colorado.  Should the fans decide that the ADs son has to come to Arkansas as a walk-on instead of taking the schollie offer from the Buffaloes?   If not, why not?  If the fans can compel the HC to make his son move and play football in Ark, why can’t we make the ADs son be a walk-on at Arkansas.

Frankly, we just need to butt out of this conversation and let the families make the decisions that they deem is best for them.  Each of us have enough problems of our own to be butting in on someone else’s problems.

Not that I have a strong opinion about this or anything.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 04, 2018, 10:21:14 pm
Tell me why we care where CM's kid plays HS football?

Dramatic men of HV.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: racinghog on February 04, 2018, 10:33:41 pm
I’m with you on this. 

From my perspective, this is folks trying to stir up trouble when, in reality this is a family decision. More to the point this is the Morris’ decision to make and we don’t get a say so in the matter - as it should be.

How far should we take being involved in a family’s ability to decide what happens w their child. For example, the ADs son is going to the U of Colorado.  Should the fans decide that the ADs son has to come to Arkansas as a walk-on instead of taking the schollie offer from the Buffaloes?   If not, why not?  If the fans can compel the HC to make his son move and play football in Ark, why can’t we make the ADs son be a walk-on at Arkansas.

Frankly, we just need to butt out of this conversation and let the families make the decisions that they deem is best for them.  Each of us have enough problems of our own to be butting in on someone else’s problems.

Not that I have a strong opinion about this or anything.
going to college is different than going to HS.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 04, 2018, 10:43:35 pm
going to college is different than going to HS.
Obviously, I disagree - the principle is still the same...i.e. somebody other than the family makes the decision on what is best for their family.   

You and I should not be involved in this discussion.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: LZH on February 05, 2018, 05:18:46 am
Odd that so many want Arkansas to move to a lesser conference but want Morris to complete against the best of the best.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: nchogg on February 05, 2018, 07:49:53 am
All the reporting is that he is staying at HP which makes sense for the Morris's, Chandler, and anyone who has moved during their late high school career.

It doesn't make sense to Arkansas fans because they will think that Morris isn't fully invested in Arkansas.

Personally I think he needs to make the decision on what's best for his family. For his son to have to come in to a new program and learn everything about it with the enormous pressure of being the Head Hog's son and then compete against the QB there which means he can't win the competition because even if he does it's because he's the Morris's kid. It's a recipe for disappointment all around.

Plus... think of the recruiting side... CBB burned bridges with so many HS coaches in Texas that the hiring of Morris has rebuilt to the Hill. But to have his son playing weekly in Texas HS football at a great program only serves to strengthen those bonds. His son is an active recruiter so far for us and I can't imagine that changing on Friday nights in the fall.

Makes sense to me.

Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: pigture perfect on February 05, 2018, 08:06:20 am
If the situation was opposite of this, say a coach who was at Arkansas left to be a coach in Texas, I would assume that the kid would stay in Arkansas and play for a chance to win a state title. I know what it is to move at a critical juncture. Chemistry is very important on a team.

On a side note, I believe one thing wrong with football in Little Rock is because sometimes a kid doesn’t know from year to year where the school bus will take him.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: go hogues on February 05, 2018, 08:12:12 am
It's a 3 mile drive from HP Football complex to Love Field and a 40 min Gulfstream ride to Drake. He'll probably be in Fayetteville each Friday night within three hours of the final whistle in HP.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 05, 2018, 09:44:24 am
Odd that so many want Arkansas to move to a lesser conference but want Morris to complete against the best of the best.

This isn't comparable.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 09:51:57 am
Odd that so many want Arkansas to move to a lesser conference but want Morris to complete against the best of the best.

Apples to pineapples
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: justmakeit2thebcs on February 05, 2018, 10:21:14 am
This isn't comparable.
sure it is...it doesn't fit your narrative.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 10:23:46 am
sure it is...it doesn't fit your narrative.

You really want to get into this again?  I'm happy to make you look dumb.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: rljjr on February 05, 2018, 11:12:55 am
Dramatic men of HV.

It WOULD make for a pretty good sketch.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 05, 2018, 11:13:28 am
sure it is...it doesn't fit your narrative.

Please explain how it is. I'm really looking to learn something today.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: TexasRazorback on February 05, 2018, 11:15:20 am
When your dad is head football coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks - you move to Fayetteville, AR

When you are about to take over a 5A texas program that has State Title aspirations you do not move to Fayetteville, AR.  You finish out your HS career at your current school and hopefully he then comes to the Hill with a scholly to be our QB.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 11:16:58 am
When your dad is head football coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks - you move to Fayetteville, AR

Thanks for the input. I'm sure Chad Morris leads his family and decides what's best for them by taking the advice of anonymous message board posters.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: TexHog188 on February 05, 2018, 11:26:32 am
Chandler will be the starting QB for the Highland Park Scots with a chance to 3-Peat in Texas 5A Football. No way he gives up on that to transfer to Fayetteville. Leave the kid alone, he’s living the dream everyone of us wish we could. Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: 3Scoreand10 on February 05, 2018, 11:29:58 am
If he were my son, I would advise him to stay.

So the question is---Will pop be there on Friday nights watching?
Might put a lot of hours on that plane.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: LZH on February 05, 2018, 12:02:10 pm
Apples to pineapples

Well, I did say odd.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: LZH on February 05, 2018, 12:10:13 pm
If he were my son, I would advise him to stay.

If he were my son, I'd make him gain 40 lbs and play him at FB....
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Hoggish1 on February 05, 2018, 12:35:17 pm
Just because YOU don’t care doesn’t mean nobody else does. Its the offseason and its the head football coach’s son and could impact arkansas highschool football.

If his dad thinks is's OK to stay what are we getting involved in this for?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 12:51:03 pm
Just because YOU don’t care doesn’t mean nobody else does. Its the offseason and its the head football coach’s son and could impact arkansas highschool football.

I don't care either.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: oldbear on February 05, 2018, 02:23:03 pm
I care. I think it says a lot for the Morris family that they are willing to make this decision while probably knowing they will catch some flack from unreasonable people. I wasn't sold on Coach Morris in the beginning. The more I learn, the better I like him.

It will be fun keeping up with HP this year. I am hoping for that 3 peat!
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Grizzlyfan on February 05, 2018, 02:37:33 pm
If his dad thinks is's OK to stay what are we getting involved in this for?
I wouldn't say we are "involved" I would say we are discussing.  And I think it's a fair point of discussion since we (generically the ticket buying Razorback fans) are paying his salary.  If he reels off 3 surprisingly good seasons and bolts for another job, will it be fair to say "I guess we should have seen it coming.  His wife and kid never even moved to Fayetteville"?

If you owned a company and hired a new CEO, would it concern you if his family didn't move your city?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Hog N Bama on February 05, 2018, 02:57:26 pm
I dunno. I think Chandler did one heck of a Hog Call. So let him be happy ;D
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:07:31 pm
If he were my son, I would advise him to stay.

So the question is---Will pop be there on Friday nights watching?
Might put a lot of hours on that plane.

The kid should be supporting his father's endeavor. Living in Texas while his father lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas is not supporting his father's endeavor. My father was a minister for 40 years and not one time did the family ever consider staying and living in 1 town while dad Pastored a church in another town. Such a thing would have been completely ridiculous. If the kid was going to be a Senior next year MAYBE I could understand him staying but he's not. He's finishing his Sophomore year of high school in May or June.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: NoogaHog on February 05, 2018, 03:08:08 pm
After we criticize the Coach and the AD on how they raise their children, I think we should make dang sure that Mrs. Morris knows our opinion on what color she paints her kitchen. You know, recruiting and all.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Hogindasticks on February 05, 2018, 03:10:12 pm
The kid should be supporting his father's endeavor. Living in Texas while his father lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas is not supporting his father's endeavor. My father was a minister for 40 years and not one time did the family ever consider staying and living in 1 town while dad Pastored a church in another town. Such a thing would have been completely ridiculous. If the kid was going to be a Senior next year MAYBE I could understand him staying but he's not. He's finishing his Sophomore year of high school in May or June.

I think it's a family thing...I don't think it should be put on the kid.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:10:25 pm
After we criticize the Coach and the AD on how they raise their children, I think we should make dang sure that Mrs. Morris knows our opinion on what color she paints her kitchen. You know, recruiting and all.

Make snide remarks all you want but my point is a valid one.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 03:10:47 pm
The kid should be supporting his father's endeavor. Living in Texas while his father lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas is not supporting his father's endeavor. My father was a minister for 40 years and not one time did the family ever consider staying and living in 1 town while dad Pastored a church in another town. Such a thing would have been completely ridiculous. If the kid was going to be a Senior next year MAYBE I could understand him staying but he's not. He's finishing his Sophomore year of high school in May or June.

Well, it's not your call. Not every family is like yours, either. I highly doubt you were a successful high school quarterback at a high-powered school in Texas while your father had the opportunity to coach an SEC program.

You're chastising a kid for not supporting his father's endeavors when his father is clearly perfectly fine with it and allowing his family to do what's best for them.

The Morris family: "Dad, are you okay with this?" "Absolutely, son. This is what's best for you and your life."
Hogville: "WRONG!"

Ya know, some things in life are circumstantial.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: thebignasty on February 05, 2018, 03:12:09 pm
Make snide remarks all you want but my point is a valid one.

Nope, it isn't.


As much as you believe you have a say in how other people ought to manage their family life,  you do not, and your internet proselytizing is pathetic.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:13:09 pm
I think it's a family thing...I don't think it should be put on the kid.

It's not on the kid. His father should insist that he and his mom move to NWA after his school year in Texas ends in May or June.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 03:13:15 pm
Nope, it isn't.


As much as you believe you have a say in how other people ought to manage their family life,  you do not, and your internet proselytizing is pathetic.

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Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Justifiable Hogicide on February 05, 2018, 03:15:46 pm
It’s going to be tough/stressful on Coach Morris to have his whole family living in Texas while he is alone in Fayetteville trying to live and coach an SEC football team. It may even be a recruiting issue used by our opponents too.
Hopefully his son has a great season in Dallas and then the Morris family makes Arkansas their home.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 03:16:05 pm
It's not on the kid. His father should insist that he and his mom move to NWA after his school year in Texas ends in May or June.

You've gotta be some kinda prick to think you can tell another (and much more successful) man how to handle his family's affairs.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:17:10 pm
Nope, it isn't.


As much as you believe you have a say in how other people ought to manage their family life,  you do not, and your internet proselytizing is pathetic.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I appreciate the way I was raised.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 05, 2018, 03:17:36 pm
It's not on the kid. His father should insist that he and his mom move to NWA after his school year in Texas ends in May or June.

Why does it matter?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: thebignasty on February 05, 2018, 03:19:30 pm
You've gotta be some kinda prick to think you can tell another (and much more successful) man how to handle his family's affairs.

His parents must have just not raised him right.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 03:19:55 pm
It's not on the kid. His father should insist that he and his mom move to NWA after his school year in Texas ends in May or June.

Thanks for the input, Dr. Phil.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:24:09 pm
You've gotta be some kinda prick to think you can tell another (and much more successful) man how to handle his family's affairs.

Moving his family with him to NWA shows his total commitment to the U of A. Leaving his son and wife in Texas tells me that his heart is not in being at the U of A and that as soon as a good D1 job offer comes from a University in Texas, he's gone. It's no secret that he preferred the A&M job over the Arkansas job. He has my support as Hog head coach but his still owning a house in Texas with his son and wife still living there makes me wonder how long he'll stay put at Arkansas.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 03:25:17 pm
Moving his family with him to NWA shows his total commitment to the U of A. Leaving his son and wife in Texas tells me that his heart is not in being at the U of A and that as soon as a good D1 job offer comes from a University in Texas, he's gone. It's no secret that he preferred the A&M job over the Arkansas job. He has my support as Hog head coach but his still owning a house in Texas with his son and wife still living there makes me wonder how long he'll stay put at Arkansas.

Cool.

He's committed to his family first and foremost. What a terrible guy.

I don't blame him.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: NoogaHog on February 05, 2018, 03:26:26 pm
Moving his family with him to NWA shows his total commitment to the U of A. Leaving his son and wife in Texas tells me that his heart is not in being at the U of A and that as soon as a good D1 job offer comes from a University in Texas, he's gone. It's no secret that he preferred the A&M job over the Arkansas job. He has my support as Hog head coach but his still owning a house in Texas with his son and wife still living there makes me wonder how long he'll stay put at Arkansas.

Again, that may be true, but why is it your business? He is the coach at Arkansas until he isn't. That's it.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:33:28 pm
Cool.

He's committed to his family first and foremost. What a terrible guy.

I don't blame him.

His family is his business. My concern is his committment to the U of A and leaving his family in Texas doesn't exactly show a solid committment to the U of A.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 03:37:11 pm
Moving his family with him to NWA shows his total commitment to the U of A. Leaving his son and wife in Texas tells me that his heart is not in being at the U of A and that as soon as a good D1 job offer comes from a University in Texas, he's gone. It's no secret that he preferred the A&M job over the Arkansas job. He has my support as Hog head coach but his still owning a house in Texas with his son and wife still living there makes me wonder how long he'll stay put at Arkansas.

Spending your days huffing and puffing on the internet about another man's family business sure is something.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:42:07 pm
Again, that may be true, but why is it your business? He is the coach at Arkansas until he isn't. That's it.

I'm a long time Hog fan and what's best for the U of A football program is what matters to me.

I want a head coach that WANTS to be at the U of A and it's THE job that he wants. I hope I'm wrong and Chad Morris is much more committed to the U of A than I think he is.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:44:42 pm
Spending your days huffing and puffing on the internet about another man's family business sure is something.

Hey, I didn't start this thread. The OP asked a question and I gave my opinion. If you don't like the discussion then crawl his backside for starting it.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 03:46:10 pm
I'm a long time Hog fan and what's best for the U of A football program is what matters to me.

I want a head coach that WANTS to be at the U of A and it's THE job that he wants. I hope I'm wrong and Chad Morris is much more committed to the U of A than I think he is.

You usually are.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 03:46:46 pm
It's not on the kid. His father should insist that he and his mom move to NWA after his school year in Texas ends in May or June.

How stupid. Especially coming from you.


Let this kid soak in Texas before he moves to the Midwest. His life is in Texas right now. Not up there.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: razorbackfaninar on February 05, 2018, 03:50:34 pm
Make snide remarks all you want but my point is a valid one.

No it isn't, it's a dumb point, and one you are making based on very limited information about the personal lives of the coach and his family.  You aren't privy to their reasons for handling things this way and as long as he is doing his job it has nothing to do with you or any of us as fans.  It's a five hour drive or an hour twenty by plane, less if you are going on a private jet. The kid is a presumptive QB starter at a prestigious program.  I assume he has worked hard to get to that position, and I don't blame his dad for not making him start over somewhere else.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: racinghog on February 05, 2018, 03:51:41 pm
I'm a long time Hog fan and what's best for the U of A football program is what matters to me.

I want a head coach that WANTS to be at the U of A and it's THE job that he wants. I hope I'm wrong and Chad Morris is much more committed to the U of A than I think he is.
Guv with the way Coach Morris has work his butt off I have to say he is committed. He has caused me to back up and rethink and I am not thrilled with the hire. I just hope he told the powers to be that his family wasn't moving with him during the interview process.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:51:45 pm
You usually are.

In this case, I want BADLY to be wrong because in Coach Morris, I think the U of A may have just found it's "Diamond in the Rough" and I'd sure like for them to keep him for quite some time.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 03:52:41 pm
No it isn't, it's a dumb point, and one you are making based on very limited information about the personal lives of the coach and his family.  You aren't privy to their reasons for handling things this way and as long as he is doing his job it has nothing to do with you or any of us as fans.  It's a five hour drive or an hour twenty by plane, less if you are going on a private jet. The kid is a presumptive QB starter at a prestigious program.  I assume he has worked hard to get to that position, and I don't blame his dad for not making him start over somewhere else.

Guv’s viewpoints prove what’s wrong with Jefferson county.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 03:53:23 pm
In this case, I want BADLY to be wrong because in Coach Morris, I think the U of A may have just found it's "Diamond in the Rough" and I'd sure like for them to keep him for quite some time.

What Texas job that is a homerun are you expecting to come open that will send Morris back to Texas?

Herman has Texas Locked up.
Jimbo is starting fresh at TAMU.
Houston is nowhere near the job as Arkansas.
TTU has Kingsbury.
Baylor? Might as well seal his death fate.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 05, 2018, 03:53:35 pm
I'm a long time Hog fan and what's best for the U of A football program is what matters to me.

I want a head coach that WANTS to be at the U of A and it's THE job that he wants. I hope I'm wrong and Chad Morris is much more committed to the U of A than I think he is.

Hey, Guv, let me break it down for you in its most simplistic form. If he didn't want the job, he wouldn't have taken the job. I know you don't do it often, but lets not work the brain too hard on this Monday.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: NoogaHog on February 05, 2018, 03:54:38 pm
Guv has gotten himself into an interesting quandary. He is a "long time hog fan" who is going to find himself rooting for aTm to be successful so they will keep Jimbo. Poor fella is going to lay awake nights if aTm gets that 3rd loss in season 3.

If aTm does come to call CCM back home, that means we were successful and in a better circumstance than we are now. And with a good situation in which to bring another good coach.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Nashville Fan on February 05, 2018, 03:57:11 pm
Highland Park is one of the better public schools in the country. Most private schools in Dallas are not as good. AR schools don't compare. People buy condos in HP area to send their kids there. Since it is a public school it is cheaper to buy a house than to pay Private School tuition.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 03:58:09 pm
What Texas job that is a homerun are you expecting to come open that will send Morris back to Texas?

Let's just say that I don't like playing second fiddle to Texas A&M when it comes to hiring head coaches. It's very well known that if they had offered, he wouldn't be at the U of A right now. Like I said, I BADLY hope I'm reading the Tea Leaves wrong. I've heard and seen enough to believe that guy can flat out coach football.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 03:58:56 pm
Let's just say that I don't like playing second fiddle to Texas A&M when it comes to hiring head coaches. It's very well known that if they had offered, he wouldn't be at the U of A right now. Like I said, I BADLY hope I'm reading the Tea Leaves wrong.

Link? Source?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:01:50 pm
Guv has gotten himself into an interesting quandary. He is a "long time hog fan" who is going to find himself rooting for aTm to be successful so they will keep Jimbo. Poor fella is going to lay awake nights if aTm gets that 3rd loss in season 3.

If aTm does come to call CCM back home, that means we were successful and in a better circumstance than we are now. And with a good situation in which to bring another good coach.

I don't want A&M being too successful, just successful enough to where they leave coach Morris alone.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:03:26 pm
Link? Source?

Be serious. It was talked about on here quite a bit the week he was hired. His daughter is a student there.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 04:05:01 pm
Be serious. It was talked about on here quite a bit the week he was hired. His daughter is a student there.

It was talked about on here? That's your proof? Lol. Yikes. Forgot that Hogville was Gospel.

Yeah, and his son is a student in Texas. Did he stay there?

Doesn't Gundy have a kid at U of A?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 04:05:42 pm
Let's just say that I don't like playing second fiddle to Texas A&M when it comes to hiring head coaches. It's very well known that if they had offered, he wouldn't be at the U of A right now. Like I said, I BADLY hope I'm reading the Tea Leaves wrong. I've heard and seen enough to believe that guy can flat out coach football.

Let me guess, you saw it on Facebook??

One of Gundy’s kids attends UA don’t they? Doesn’t mean he came running to Arkansas.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Cinco de Hogo on February 05, 2018, 04:06:02 pm
If I were in Chandlers shoes I would be doing exactly what he is doing because on the reverse if I were in Chandlers shoes but doing it in Arkansas I would be doing exactly what he is doing.  I know because I had the chance to change schools and didn’t.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 04:06:30 pm
Vintage GUV.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: theFlyingHog on February 05, 2018, 04:06:54 pm
If he were my son, I'd make him gain 40 lbs and play him at FB....
If he were my son he’d need to lose 40 to play fullback
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:08:54 pm
It was talked about on here? That's your proof? Lol. Yikes. Forgot that Hogville was Gospel.

Yeah, and his son is a student in Texas. Did he stay there?

He also applied for the A&M job first and did not really come after the U of A job until after A&M had made their hire. I can't say as I blame him for preferring that job. He would have been close to his daughter.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 05, 2018, 04:09:10 pm
Be serious. It was talked about on here quite a bit the week he was hired. His daughter is a student there.

It was talked about...HERE? on HOGVILLE?? ahhahha hahahahah hahahahhahahahahahahhhahhahah. It's only 4pm Guv...
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:11:00 pm
Let me guess, you saw it on Facebook??

One of Gundy’s kids attends UA don’t they? Doesn’t mean he came running to Arkansas.

Was Gundy ever offered the U of A job??
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: TexHog188 on February 05, 2018, 04:11:53 pm
The Morris family is more than capable of deciding what is right and what works best for their family.  Coaching is a tough business and moving every few years takes a toll on those families.  As a military veteran, who moved a lot, I can relate on that level as I went to 4 different HS in four years.  It sucks to move all the time.  We should stay completely out of their personal lives and for damn sure not be involving their kids in our BS discussions about where they go to school.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 05, 2018, 04:13:18 pm
If I were in Chandlers shoes I would be doing exactly what he is doing because on the reverse if I were in Chandlers shoes but doing it in Arkansas I would be doing exactly what he is doing.  I know because I had the chance to change schools and didn’t because I was stuffed in a locker.

FIFY
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: logic on February 05, 2018, 04:15:39 pm
Curious to know if Coach Morris' son Chandler will continue to play at Highland Park or transfer to an Arkansas school?
I don't know.  However, if he is good enough to play college football, he should go to a college where he can play; not warm the bench.  Unless he is good enough to eventually start at the UofA, he shouldn't attend the UofA just because his father is the head coach.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 05, 2018, 04:21:07 pm
He also applied for the A&M job first and did not really come after the U of A job until after A&M had made their hire. I can't say as I blame him for preferring that job. He would have been close to his daughter.

1. You have no proof or source
2. This isn't a burger flipping job we're talking about; you don't "apply"
3. Your brain is small
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 04:21:46 pm
Was Gundy ever offered the U of A job??

According to your lead source, Hogville, he was. “It was talked about a ton on here” that he was a leading candidate during the petrino firing ans Bielema firing. Per hogville of course.

Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 04:23:31 pm
He also applied for the A&M job first and did not really come after the U of A job until after A&M had made their hire. I can't say as I blame him for preferring that job. He would have been close to his daughter.

Please. Show me proof he was in the running for TAMU.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:23:48 pm
The Morris family is more than capable of deciding what is right and what works best for their family.  Coaching is a tough business and moving every few years takes a toll on those families.  As a military veteran, who moved a lot, I can relate on that level as I went to 4 different HS in four years.  It sucks to move all the time.  We should stay completely out of their personal lives and for damn sure not be involving their kids in our BS discussions about where they go to school.

I know what you mean about moving a lot. My dad was a Minister.

In January of 1971 we moved from Pine Bluff to Mountain Pine (Garland County)
In November of 1971 we moved from Mountain Pine to just outside of Blytheville, Arkansas.
In February of 1972 we moved from Blytheville back to Mountain Pine.
In November of 1972 we moved from Mountain Pine to Paragould, Arkansas were I graduated from GCT in May of 1975.

It darn near drove me nuts!
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Inhogswetrust on February 05, 2018, 04:26:47 pm
Make snide remarks all you want but my point is a valid one.

My son spends much more time in his Taiwan office than his San Jose office where they live. He has two very young girls 7 and 2. Based on your post you must think he’s a bad father and yours was better. I’d put up ANY amount of money to prove he’s as good if not better. Especially since he doesn’t try to brainwash them by making sure he’s there to preach to them every day. Telling others HOW they should raise their kids is NOT cool.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: SoonerBaHog on February 05, 2018, 04:27:12 pm
If he was my kid he would stay and play out his senior season.  Why would family deny him that once in a lifetime opportunity?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: NoogaHog on February 05, 2018, 04:27:31 pm
I know what you mean about moving a lot. My dad was a Minister.

In January of 1971 we moved from Pine Bluff to Mountain Pine (Garland County)
In November of 1971 we moved from Mountain Pine to just outside of Blytheville, Arkansas.
In February of 1972 we moved from Blytheville back to Mountain Pine.
In November of 1972 we moved to Paragould, Arkansas were I graduated from GCT in May of 1975.

It darn near drove me nutts!

Well, there you go. They just moved back home 3 years ago after spending several years in SC. Maybe the wife wants the kid to stay put for a while and have a home town. But that is none of my concern.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: logic on February 05, 2018, 04:27:41 pm
Make snide remarks all you want but my point is a valid one.
In your mind.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 05, 2018, 04:28:40 pm
My son spends much more time in his Taiwan office than his San Jose office where they live. He has two very young girls 7 and 2. Based on your post you must think he’s a bad father and yours was better. I’d put up ANY amount of money to prove he’s as good if not better. Especially since he doesn’t try to brainwash them by making sure he’s there to preach to them every day. Telling others HOW they should raise their kids is NOT cool.

I alway love a holier than thou athiest.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:31:03 pm
Please. Show me proof he was in the running for TAMU.

I didn't say he was in the running, I said he applied for it. He was never seriously considered (Thank Goodness!!).
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:33:36 pm
Well, there you go. They just moved back home 3 years ago after spending several years in SC. Maybe the wife wants the kid to stay put for a while and have a home town. But that is none of my concern.

Come to think of it after I posted about us moving as much as we did, I see your point.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: GuvHog on February 05, 2018, 04:46:43 pm
My son spends much more time in his Taiwan office than his San Jose office where they live. He has two very young girls 7 and 2. Based on your post you must think he’s a bad father and yours was better. I’d put up ANY amount of money to prove he’s as good if not better. Especially since he doesn’t try to brainwash them by making sure he’s there to preach to them every day. Telling others HOW they should raise their kids is NOT cool.

No, I'm sure he flies home to spend as much time with them as possible. Consider yourself lucky on being a proud dad and Grandpa, that's something I'll never have the privilege of doing.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: oldman1015 on February 05, 2018, 05:35:08 pm
I didn't say he was in the running, I said he applied for it. He was never seriously considered (Thank Goodness!!).
Did he fill out a paper application?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: 3Scoreand10 on February 05, 2018, 05:41:38 pm
His family is his business. My concern is his committment to the U of A and leaving his family in Texas doesn't exactly show a solid committment to the U of A.

So we should be suspect of the commitment of a soldier sent to Iraq if he did not take his wife and kids.
Family always comes first.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Hogindasticks on February 05, 2018, 05:48:51 pm
His family is his business. My concern is his committment to the U of A and leaving his family in Texas doesn't exactly show a solid committment to the U of A.

I think what your getting at is his Long Term Commitment.  We want him here longer than a year or two.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Busta_Nutt on February 05, 2018, 05:49:09 pm
So we should be suspect of the commitment of a soldier sent to Iraq if he did not take his wife and kids.
Family always comes first.

Oh...I guess we're going there. Very hard to argue against this statement.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 05:49:21 pm
Did he fill out a paper application?

I think he emailed his resume and cover letter to jobs@tamu.edu
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: LZH on February 05, 2018, 05:55:49 pm
If he were my son he’d need to lose 40 to play fullback

Ha! +1
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Hogindasticks on February 05, 2018, 05:58:33 pm
Oh...I guess we're going there. Very hard to argue against this statement.

So, now Arkansas is like Iraq...sheesh...and I thought the hog fans were all loving.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: gohogs1969 on February 05, 2018, 06:08:44 pm
I'm a dad. I'd bet 90% plus of us are too. I would leave it up to my child. Give him the option. By the way, I'm also a Fayetteville Purple Dog. Would love to see him play for my school but a to be a senior in high school and the starting QB is special.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 05, 2018, 07:34:05 pm
I think he emailed his resume and cover letter to jobs@tamu.edu
Look, I strongly disagree w Guvs position on whether CCM should compel his son to move to AR just to appease the fans.  Although I fully understand his thought process.

But give the guy a break on CCMs interest in the TAMU job.  He graduated from there, his daughter goes to school there, and frankly, it’s reasonable to assume that he would have liked to have been considered for that job. 

You guys do know how to exasperate people.  Heh.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: FATHAWG08 on February 05, 2018, 07:54:13 pm
Guv’s viewpoints prove what’s wrong with Jefferson county.
And Bradley County is Rocking!!
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 05, 2018, 08:15:26 pm
Look, I strongly disagree w Guvs position on whether CCM should compel his son to move to AR just to appease the fans.  Although I fully understand his thought process.

But give the guy a break on CCMs interest in the TAMU job.  He graduated from there, his daughter goes to school there, and frankly, it’s reasonable to assume that he would have liked to have been considered for that job. 

You guys do know how to exasperate people.  Heh.

Oh I was 100% joking with my post about the email address. I was playing along with the stupidity of him ”applying for the A&M” job. 
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: jimmiewkersh on February 05, 2018, 09:40:48 pm
Starting QB at Highland Park will get Chandler much more opportunities to play at the next level because of the competition level he will face in Texas' largest classification.  7A is good for Arkansas football, but no team would make it to the quarter finals in Texas.  Most of the 4A district champions in Texas would destroy any team in Arkansas including every State Champion this year.  Football in Texas is like upper level P5 ball in most 5-A conferences.  Unless you have lived it and seen it first hand, you have no idea of what it is like for 12 - 15 weeks in the Fall.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Inhogswetrust on February 06, 2018, 03:22:59 am
No, I'm sure he flies home to spend as much time with them as possible. Consider yourself lucky on being a proud dad and Grandpa, that's something I'll never have the privilege of doing.

None of that has anything to do with you posting how someone should raise their kids.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: netteltonhog on February 06, 2018, 07:40:54 am
As a child growing up in a split household, my first hand knowledge is let the young man finish high school where he is at.  I strongly feel that CCM is doing the right thing for his son.  This will pay big dividends in their father son relationship later in life. 
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: NoogaHog on February 06, 2018, 08:19:31 am
Can we trash this thread yet?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: AP85 on February 06, 2018, 10:10:36 am
And Bradley County is Rocking!!

Ok.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Inhogswetrust on February 06, 2018, 10:16:39 am
I'm a long time Hog fan and what's best for the U of A football program is what matters to me.

I want a head coach that WANTS to be at the U of A and it's THE job that he wants. I hope I'm wrong and Chad Morris is much more committed to the U of A than I think he is.

Except you only think he isn’t totally committed due to what he and his wife has decided for their family business and wellbeing. My dad spent way over 50% of his career time traveling all over and only being home on weekends and sometimes not then. If not for him and a whole lot more fathers you wouldn’t have had electricity as a youngster. Military parents are gone a lot. I guess in your eyes they aren’t committed to family.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: arthurhawgerelli on February 06, 2018, 10:38:07 am
This is for GuvHog, who I sometimes agree with and sometimes disagree.  This time I disagree, but I've got my own personal family reason I'll point out that makes me agree with the decision Coach Morris has made.

My son was a qb for the high school I worked for.  I wasn't a coach, but I was an administrator in the district.  My son was more suited to be a receiver or running back in the offense of the school he attended.  There just wasn't another choice for qb, and I'm glad I wasn't the coach, because it was a tough situation.  I could have taken a job at a competing district, and my son would have more than likely been able to help that team much more as a qb because the offense they ran called for the skills he had.

To shorten this story, we stayed put.  The biggest lineman on my son's team started the season weighing 240 lbs, and he finished the season weighing below 200.  My son took a physical beating, and we didn't qualify for the playoffs.  The school we considered moving to, missed out on going to the state championship game when the qb fumbled (again) at a very inopportune time.

Have I beat myself up many times since then?  You bet.  Many, many times.

Although your point of Coach Morris appears to not be 100% bought in is valid, I give him a pass when it comes to his family, and his son staying in a school and program he fits in.  He's already uprooted the young man during his jr. high years to move back to Texas.  I'll bet my mortgage that the day Highland Park finishes their season during Chandler's senior year, the entire family moves to Fayetteville. 
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on February 06, 2018, 11:16:44 am
CLASSIC HOGVILLE to say the guy isnt committed to us b/c his TEENAGER wanted to stay in High School with all of his friends and team mates in a millionaire only neighborhood in Texas, and lead a nationally know football team. He's in a utopia living out his dreams.

My God> Seek help, people. Your terrible self esteem is correctable.

i hope he doesnt read this stuff. Y'all are embarrassing af.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: NoogaHog on February 06, 2018, 11:19:24 am
This is for GuvHog, who I sometimes agree with and sometimes disagree.  This time I disagree, but I've got my own personal family reason I'll point out that makes me agree with the decision Coach Morris has made.

My son was a qb for the high school I worked for.  I wasn't a coach, but I was an administrator in the district.  My son was more suited to be a receiver or running back in the offense of the school he attended.  There just wasn't another choice for qb, and I'm glad I wasn't the coach, because it was a tough situation.  I could have taken a job at a competing district, and my son would have more than likely been able to help that team much more as a qb because the offense they ran called for the skills he had.

To shorten this story, we stayed put.  The biggest lineman on my son's team started the season weighing 240 lbs, and he finished the season weighing below 200.  My son took a physical beating, and we didn't qualify for the playoffs.  The school we considered moving to, missed out on going to the state championship game when the qb fumbled (again) at a very inopportune time.

Have I beat myself up many times since then?  You bet.  Many, many times.

Although your point of Coach Morris appears to not be 100% bought in is valid, I give him a pass when it comes to his family, and his son staying in a school and program he fits in.  He's already uprooted the young man during his jr. high years to move back to Texas. I'll bet my mortgage that the day Highland Park finishes their season during Chandler's senior year, the entire family moves to Fayetteville.

I would take that bet. I'd bet they let him graduate from HP. They surely aren't going to rip him up 5 months before graduation.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: soccerrunner on February 06, 2018, 01:58:53 pm
Starting QB at Highland Park will get Chandler much more opportunities to play at the next level because of the competition level he will face in Texas' largest classification.  7A is good for Arkansas football, but no team would make it to the quarter finals in Texas.  Most of the 4A district champions in Texas would destroy any team in Arkansas including every State Champion this year.  Football in Texas is like upper level P5 ball in most 5-A conferences.  Unless you have lived it and seen it first hand, you have no idea of what it is like for 12 - 15 weeks in the Fall.

6A was added a couple of years ago in recognition of the possible competitive advantage due to huge student populations at, for example, Allen HS at 6600+,  Plano, Plano West, and PESH at 5500+, Skyline at 4600+, etc.  But, all of the good 5A schools, like Highland Park, would have no problem being competitive at the upper echelon of 6A.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Con el Cerdos on February 06, 2018, 02:47:22 pm
I would take that bet. I'd bet they let him graduate from HP. They surely aren't going to rip him up 5 months before graduation.

I certainly don't know what the Morris family will do regarding Chandler's future schooling.  That said, lots of folks don't realize that Chandler is currently in the middle of his SOPHOMORE year. 

Staying until graduation would be two-and-a-half years of batching for our head coach.  Could he do it or would he, that's the question.  Of course, this is a proud Texas family who apparently has deep roots in the state.  For that reason, they may want Chandler to graduate from Highland Park.

Shouldn't matter to Razorback fans; Morris won't finish out his six-year contract anyway.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: LAGNAF on February 06, 2018, 03:11:07 pm
When your dad is head football coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks - you move to Fayetteville, AR

Not if you are about to be the starting QB for the twice defending 5A state champs in Texas

(Unless of course you'd just rather play at FHS)
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 06, 2018, 07:49:18 pm
Shouldn't matter to Razorback fans; Morris won't finish out his six-year contract anyway.
And what exactly, pray tell, did you hope to accomplish with this statement?
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: HenduHog on February 06, 2018, 08:22:55 pm
And what exactly, pray tell, did you hope to accomplish with this statement?

Nothing. Some of these guys just throw scheisse to see what it hits. There is no rhyme or reason.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Con el Cerdos on February 06, 2018, 09:34:33 pm
And what exactly, pray tell, did you hope to accomplish with this statement?

Not meant to accomplish anything.  Simply a statement of what I believe.  Arkansas is no longer a destination job; actually hasn't been for a while.  Morris is not likely to be here for the duration of his contract.  He will either be very successful and move on to a better job, which is the most likely.  Or, do poorly here and in turn be fired.

I'll also say that I believe Morris would leave for any Big 12 job in Texas except probably Texas Tech.  I think he would also leave for about any SEC job except Vandy, Ky, SC, and possibly MsSt.  And I know he would take the Clemson HC job in a heart beat.  JMO.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 07, 2018, 09:12:40 am
Not meant to accomplish anything.  Simply a statement of what I believe.  Arkansas is no longer a destination job; actually hasn't been for a while.  Morris is not likely to be here for the duration of his contract.  He will either be very successful and move on to a better job, which is the most likely.  Or, do poorly here and in turn be fired.

I'll also say that I believe Morris would leave for any Big 12 job in Texas except probably Texas Tech.  I think he would also leave for about any SEC job except Vandy, Ky, SC, and possibly MsSt.  And I know he would take the Clemson HC job in a heart beat.  JMO.
Wow.

With “fans” like you to encourage us, who needs enemies?

I’ll bet you are a ray of sunshine everywhere you go. Heh
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 07, 2018, 09:24:55 am
Wow.

With “fans” like you to encourage us, who needs enemies?

I’ll bet you are a ray of sunshine everywhere you go. Heh

You can be a fan and be realistic. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: psooie on February 07, 2018, 09:44:37 am
I could see staying for his senior year but staying for jr and sr puts a big strain on the family so I don’t like it
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 07, 2018, 09:49:42 am
I could see staying for his senior year but staying for jr and sr puts a big strain on the family so I don’t like it

Do you have some insider information on the Morris family or something? How do you know this puts a "big strain" on them? Maybe they've got it perfectly worked out.

Sheesh, folks. Judging another family's decisions is something else.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: ifghog on February 07, 2018, 12:30:49 pm
The kid should be supporting his father's endeavor. Living in Texas while his father lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas is not supporting his father's endeavor. My father was a minister for 40 years and not one time did the family ever consider staying and living in 1 town while dad Pastored a church in another town. Such a thing would have been completely ridiculous. If the kid was going to be a Senior next year MAYBE I could understand him staying but he's not. He's finishing his Sophomore year of high school in May or June.
My daughter is a 2 sport athlete at a small school in Ark...it would take an act of congress...and we know that isn't easy to get her to move. she will be a junior. You should never move a kid that late in their high school career. If it can be helped that is...in Coach Morris case he has the means to do I t that way. Now I know circumstances can change but if they are happy and doing well in school...you leave them be.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Hogindasticks on February 07, 2018, 01:34:39 pm
Do you have some insider information on the Morris family or something? How do you know this puts a "big strain" on them? Maybe they've got it perfectly worked out.

Sheesh, folks. Judging another family's decisions is something else.

What does it matter to you? You won't give the guy a chance to change Arkansas football anyway.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: oldhawg on February 07, 2018, 01:51:59 pm
I could see staying for his senior year but staying for jr and sr puts a big strain on the family so I don’t like it

Not a new concept.  Soldiers, sailors, and airmen have had to deal with family separations for a long time, sometimes multiple times.  Strong, dedicated families develop successful coping strategies as a family unit.  There can be unexpected stressful situations, but nothing that can't be dealt with.  Stress is not necessarily fatal. 
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on February 07, 2018, 01:53:03 pm
What does it matter to you? You won't give the guy a chance to change Arkansas football anyway.

Well you've said it in two different threads so I might as well do it, too:

Absolutely. I love the Morris hire. For the first time in a while I think we're about to see some really great things from the program.

Who's to say Morris won't be Holtz? We have NO idea.

He could be Holtz. He could be Bielema. We have no clue.

Yeah, you are what your record says you are. And Morris' record has improved every year in the 3 years he's been a head coach after taking over a 1-11 team. I'd say that's called "progress," and "progress" can lead to some optimism.

I believe Morris is very good at identifying talent and developing it.

I support that with this, although a hole could be poked in my argument. Where the hole could be poked is in regards to the amount of walkons the SMU program currently has, or walkons that eventually contribute significantly.

Hear me out: No, SMU is not going to be a top five destination for recruits in Texas. But the AAC is a different animal in recruiting due to its geography. Teams range from USF, to SMU, to Cincinnati, to Temple, to Connecticut. Schools like USF, UCF, and Cincinnati, for example, have inherent advantages. Massive public schools that are in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds (yes, SMU is as well, but I'm getting there) that can take their share of leftovers, AND establish a solid walkon program.

SMU is a small private school that costs $46,000 to attend BEFORE room and board, books, etc. If someone can find evidence SMU has a strong walkon program, my argument is cut. But, that being said, SMU can't have the privilege of a walkon program like these other massively-enrolled state schools.

Therefore, Morris knows the players he is looking for, and he knows how to develop them, because he can't have players waiting in the walkon wings. He has to work with what he has, and he has done well; progress each year is doing well.

Our previous coach, in my opinion, was poor at both of those facets. I believe that Morris' ability to have a roster of almost all Texas recruits shows that he knows what he needs and how to develop them.

"What about his record?" He took over a 1-11 team and has added wins every year since. That's progress. In our microwave world, people want it NOW. A coach ain't gonna take a 1-11 team to 10-wins in consecutive years.

So that's my argument for Morris. I think he is a great identifier and developer of talent, and at a place like Arkansas where he will not overwhelmingly land 4* and 5* recruits, I think that's a valuable asset.

Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 07, 2018, 04:06:06 pm
You can be a fan and be realistic. They aren't mutually exclusive.
I will grant you that.  But, if you owned or was named CEO of a business and you heard one of your workers bad mouthing your leadership to all of your employees and saying that you wouldn’t be here in 6 years anyway.   Do you keep him/her?  After all, the worker was only “being realistic”. 

While HV is not the same, I think the principle is.  We come on here to get encouraged, get news, and look for hope for the future.  And some yahoo(s) continuously passes skyisfalling snippets and their sole purpose is to demoralize and degrade - all under the auspices of “being realistic”.

Frankly, I don’t get it.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: steveaustin69 on February 07, 2018, 04:15:56 pm
I will grant you that.  But, if you owned or was named CEO of a business and you heard one of your workers bad mouthing your leadership to all of your employees and saying that you wouldn’t be here in 6 years anyway.   Do you keep him/her?  After all, the worker was only “being realistic”. 

While HV is not the same, I think the principle is.  We come on here to get encouraged, get news, and look for hope for the future.  And some yahoo(s) continuously passes skyisfalling snippets and their sole purpose is to demoralize and degrade - all under the auspices of “being realistic”.

Frankly, I don’t get it.

It's not; simple as that.

If I point out we are 95-120 in SEC conference games does that mean my purpose is to demoralize and degrade?  That's not some in the future sky is falling mantra. That's our record; it happened.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Grizzlyfan on February 07, 2018, 04:38:16 pm
I will grant you that.  But, if you owned or was named CEO of a business and you heard one of your workers bad mouthing your leadership to all of your employees and saying that you wouldn’t be here in 6 years anyway.   Do you keep him/her?  After all, the worker was only “being realistic”. 

While HV is not the same, I think the principle is.  We come on here to get encouraged, get news, and look for hope for the future.  And some yahoo(s) continuously passes skyisfalling snippets and their sole purpose is to demoralize and degrade - all under the auspices of “being realistic”.

Frankly, I don’t get it.
A better analogy would be a long-time, loyal customer bad mouthing the leadership.  And if you are in business you have no choice but to try and regain their trust.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Con el Cerdos on February 07, 2018, 04:42:48 pm
Wow.

With “fans” like you to encourage us, who needs enemies?

I’ll bet you are a ray of sunshine everywhere you go. Heh

Why would you need me to encourage you on how you should feel about the Razorback football program?

Just so you'll know, "fans" like me have been contributing financially to the U of A football program probably longer than you've been alive.   But just guessing there.

And if you want to be realistic about the national relevance of our program I don't see how you could disagree with my comments.  Especially, if you know anything about Morris' history.  In roughly 25 years coaching high school and college, Morris has never been at any school longer than 4 years.   Not a negative but one has to conclude that he is a very upward and mobile individual; very ambitious.

Further, Arkansas was not his first choice this year.  He badly wanted the A&M job; however, they wanted the "home run" hire.

So, at the risk of discouraging you, I'll repeat:  I will be the most surprised Razorback fan in existence if Morris is still here in six years.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: rogersvillemohog on February 07, 2018, 04:54:39 pm
The kid should be supporting his father's endeavor. Living in Texas while his father lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas is not supporting his father's endeavor. My father was a minister for 40 years and not one time did the family ever consider staying and living in 1 town while dad Pastored a church in another town. Such a thing would have been completely ridiculous. If the kid was going to be a Senior next year MAYBE I could understand him staying but he's not. He's finishing his Sophomore year of high school in May or June.

Oh, come off it Guv. There were plenty of reasons to hate on Jeff Long, but his daughter attending Mizzou wasn't one of them. In fact, I don't think I ever remember seeing it brought up. If you were offered a job making 7-figures in a town 4-5 hours away, do you think your dad would've advised you to not take the job? I find that hard to believe. Some people will find just about anything to complain about.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 07, 2018, 06:33:08 pm
A better analogy would be a long-time, loyal customer bad mouthing the leadership.  And if you are in business you have no choice but to try and regain their trust.
I will buy that analogy.
Title: Re: Chandler Morris
Post by: Stu on February 07, 2018, 06:44:13 pm
Why would you need me to encourage you on how you should feel about the Razorback football program?

Just so you'll know, "fans" like me have been contributing financially to the U of A football program probably longer than you've been alive.   But just guessing there.

And if you want to be realistic about the national relevance of our program I don't see how you could disagree with my comments.  Especially, if you know anything about Morris' history.  In roughly 25 years coaching high school and college, Morris has never been at any school longer than 4 years.   Not a negative but one has to conclude that he is a very upward and mobile individual; very ambitious.

Further, Arkansas was not his first choice this year.  He badly wanted the A&M job; however, they wanted the "home run" hire.

So, at the risk of discouraging you, I'll repeat:  I will be the most surprised Razorback fan in existence if Morris is still here in six years.
Welp, if you have been contributing longer than I’ve been alive, then you’re likely to be pretty old. As in, well beyond retirement age. Heh.

I am familiar w Morris track record as a coach.  Not much different than Petrino, but until the wreck he seemed pretty content to stay here...but obviously, we will never know for sure.  Maybe the same vibes w Morris will play out, but without the drama. We can hope, right?

Your last paragraph isn’t nearly as dogmatic as what you originally wrote.  Semantics, I know, but probably wouldn’t have rubbed me wrong enough to respond if you had said this first.

But, whatever, to each their own.