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Title: If BB gets the axe
Post by: welchog on November 10, 2017, 04:53:30 pm
What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 04:57:43 pm
Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ipigsooie on November 10, 2017, 04:59:06 pm
What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.

I can't say for all of them, but you'd have to think they would be commits to the school as much as anything. They don't live in a bubble and they have to know that a change is inevitable.  That being said, I also know that Norvell has been recruiting several of the kids including Connor Nowland.  I don't think it matters as much with that kid though as I think he wants to be a diamond hog as much as a qb, which is awesome.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Danimal on November 10, 2017, 04:59:39 pm
Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ
This.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: woo.pig on November 10, 2017, 05:02:18 pm
Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ

Hey PRJ

Do you feel like Norvell will be target #1?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: factchecker on November 10, 2017, 05:02:37 pm
1. I don't think IF is applicable anymore.  It's now WHEN.

2.  The impact will probably be greater on the current roster than recruiting.  A change in coaching usually results in a change in philosophy.  There will be some players who might transfer due to style.  That is not necessarily a bad thing.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 05:03:35 pm
Hey PRJ

Do you feel like Norvell will be target #1?

I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 10, 2017, 05:04:10 pm
I can't say for all of them, but you'd have to think they would be commits to the school as much as anything. They don't live in a bubble and they have to know that a change is inevitable.  That being said, I also know that Norvell has been recruiting several of the kids including Connor Nowland.  I don't think it matters as much with that kid though as I think he wants to be a diamond hog as much as a qb, which is awesome.

I've seen where one recruiting "guru" said he thought at least 6 would stay no matter who the coach was, I'm assuming he was thinking no JLS hire.....
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawgey-Davidson on November 10, 2017, 05:04:23 pm
This.
Ditto
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 10, 2017, 05:04:36 pm
We have 12 scholarships to offer.  I think Half would be Hogs no matter what.    I think any new coachís ability to improve or hurt this class is pretty nominal.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 10, 2017, 05:05:35 pm
We have 12 scholarships to offer.  I think Half would be Hogs no matter what.    I think any new coachís ability to improve or hurt this class is pretty nominal.

We'll sign 15-18.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: farmhawg on November 10, 2017, 05:12:22 pm
I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ
I hope you just ate something that disagrees with you.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: kodiakisland on November 10, 2017, 05:16:42 pm
What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.

A possible impact would be recruited Olineman playing on the O line.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: texas tush hog on November 10, 2017, 05:17:16 pm
I hope you just ate something that disagrees with you.


Drinking Long Kool-aid.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: greenie on November 10, 2017, 05:18:50 pm
Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ

Not sure why Norvell would perform at recruiting any better than CBB.  Maybe a little excitement about being the new guy, but he'll still be a relative unknown to most recruits...selling his success at Memphis.  I like the guy, and think he *might* make a good HC at Arkansas, but I doubt he recruits any better than CBB...unless he goes all Freeze on us. ;)
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 05:22:33 pm
I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ

You have way more to worry it being Les than Gus. Gus will NEVER coach @ Arkansas
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 10, 2017, 05:27:19 pm
You have way more to worry it being Les than Gus. Gus will NEVER coach @ Arkansas
I've said that for years, now I'm not as sure as I was a week ago.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 05:38:00 pm
You have way more to worry it being Les than Gus. Gus will NEVER coach @ Arkansas

No....I don't because Long isn't going to make the decision this time.

And there are some voices for Gus. The anti Gus people ain't got a dog in the fight this time.

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: LittlePigMan on November 10, 2017, 05:38:28 pm
Someone getting our coach an axe for Christmas? I'd suggest this one.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 05:38:45 pm
Not sure why Norvell would perform at recruiting any better than CBB.  Maybe a little excitement about being the new guy, but he'll still be a relative unknown to most recruits...selling his success at Memphis.  I like the guy, and think he *might* make a good HC at Arkansas, but I doubt he recruits any better than CBB...unless he goes all Freeze on us. ;)

I think he would recruit the heck out of east Texas.

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Granny fan on November 10, 2017, 05:39:27 pm
I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ


You and me both!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: LZH on November 10, 2017, 05:41:55 pm

We may have a dry spell for a year or so, then it will pick back up to be where we normally are. Hopefully, a top 15 class every year would be a dream.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 05:43:40 pm
No....I don't because Long isn't going to make the decision this time.

And there are some voices for Gus. The anti Gus people ain't got a dog in the fight this time.

PRJ

The $$$$ doesnít want Gus, so no Gus. We wonít be looking backwards. Gus has 0.0%. His name may be floated, but if they beat Georgia, it wonít even be floated. Unless, something drastic changes itíll most likely be Norvell or Neal Brown.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 10, 2017, 05:48:32 pm
The $$$$ doesnít want Gus, so no Gus. We wonít be looking backwards. Gus has 0.0%. His name may be floated, but if they beat Georgia, it wonít even be floated. Unless, something drastic changes itíll most likely be Norvell or Neal Brown.
Are you sure about $$$ not wanting Gus?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Mike Irwin on November 10, 2017, 05:48:55 pm
The $$$$ doesnít want Gus, so no Gus. We wonít be looking backwards. Gus has 0.0%. His name may be floated, but if they beat Georgia, it wonít even be floated. Unless, something drastic changes itíll most likely be Norvell or Neal Brown.
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: tlmack on November 10, 2017, 05:50:54 pm
I don't see improvement in whomever is coach is. Even with (in the minds of many) the legendary Bobby P,we stayed in the same mid twenty range we ALWAYS have.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 10, 2017, 05:51:29 pm
Some of the money wants Gus.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: 247Hog on November 10, 2017, 05:53:11 pm
Hey PRJ

Do you feel like Norvell will be target #1?

No he says its Horton and maybe Gus...for now.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: greenie on November 10, 2017, 06:02:01 pm
I think he would recruit the heck out of east Texas.

PRJ

Better than the last 2 or 3 regimes?  I doubt it.  That's the most heavily recruited area in Texas, and I see no reason to be optimistic about an unknown coach being successful out of the gate.  Maybe he'll develop it, but I don't think that'll be the case on day 1... or year 1.  Someone with an immediate recruiting impact is more likely to be someone who has name recognition with a record of success at a big program.  If you look at Long's coaching hires over his career, he goes after big names...and yes, I think he will be the guy doing the hiring if/when there's an opening.  It would be a departure of sorts for him to hire someone like Norvell.  We'll see.  If CBB isn't fired, Hogville will become a fantastic spectator sport.  If he is fired, Hogville is at its best during the hiring process.  It's going to be an interesting next several weeks, regardless.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: longtimeHogfan on November 10, 2017, 06:04:39 pm
We'll sign 15-18.

Some transfering for playing time?  Because of staff changes?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: parallaxpig on November 10, 2017, 06:06:30 pm

Drinking Long Kool-aid.

Pepsi
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hog-Corleone on November 10, 2017, 06:07:31 pm

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ

Me too
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Al Boarland on November 10, 2017, 06:07:38 pm
It may take a dip this cycle, but every coach has recruited about the same.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 06:08:36 pm
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.

Thereís no scenario where Gus leaves Auburn to come here, but if heís fired it may be mentioned. If he wins against Auburn or Alabama thereís no way heíll be fired. Not sure why his name has been mentioned so much lately, nor how he has gained support in the last couple of weeks. Apparently, something has changed. Iíd be amazed if it happened. I think he splits the fan base, and other reasons keep him from ever coming here. Time will tell.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: greenie on November 10, 2017, 06:13:01 pm
It may take a dip this cycle, but every coach has recruited about the same.

Yep.  The only thing you likely avoid by hiring a big name is the dip.  Bielema did pretty well his first year.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: snoblind on November 10, 2017, 06:17:07 pm
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.

Shhh! Shut your mouth!  Think positive thoughts, no negative waves.

That being said, I heard a rumor after a funeral in Fort Smith a few weeks ago.

 :-X
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hogindasticks on November 10, 2017, 06:21:50 pm
I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ

Please don't go there...lol
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 10, 2017, 06:31:09 pm
Some transfering for playing time?  Because of staff changes?

We currently have 12 commits + 2 blue shirts from last, that equals 14, so that's only 1 to 4 more, not a big turn over.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Mr. Porkleone on November 10, 2017, 06:39:14 pm
I think Gus is 1 and Norvell 1A. Gus has relationships with high schools as does Norvell in state.  Iíd be happy with either
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: scottwillrazbackfan1 on November 10, 2017, 06:40:16 pm
60% Gus Malzahn.. The bus is gassed up and headed west for the Ozark mountains.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: RockyMtnHog on November 10, 2017, 06:48:16 pm
I don't see Gus coming here.  We do not have the talent that he has at Auburn and it would take too long to rebuild.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Sundog on November 10, 2017, 06:49:22 pm
Iíd take Gus in a heartbeat.  Should have been the hire instead of Bert anyway.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Al Boarland on November 10, 2017, 06:55:58 pm
I don't see Gus coming here.  We do not have the talent that he has at Auburn and it would take too long to rebuild.

It would buy him at least 4-6 more years making $4m+. His wife would be closer to family. No one would be trying to run him off for losing to Bama and UGA.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: tusksincolorado on November 10, 2017, 06:59:17 pm
I've said that for years, now I'm not as sure as I was a week ago.

I just threw up, a little, in my mouth....
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hogindasticks on November 10, 2017, 07:00:32 pm
Iíd take Gus in a heartbeat.  Should have been the hire instead of Bert anyway.


 :o :o :o :o ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :puke: :puke:
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: tusksincolorado on November 10, 2017, 07:07:53 pm
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.

Mike...I think my Friday night has been ruined.  : (
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Pecos Hog on November 10, 2017, 07:10:47 pm
The good thing is that we are looking at a change.    After this mess of a season I'd take anyone as an improvement.     But the names being tossed around are all great coaches.   I'm happy.    Things are looking up. 
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: BrianG on November 10, 2017, 07:15:12 pm
Nope don't want Gus.  He can actually win.  Just not our profile.  Lol...what a crowd.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Silver Hog on November 10, 2017, 07:20:25 pm
Thereís no scenario where Gus leaves Auburn to come here, but if heís fired it may be mentioned. If he wins against Auburn or Alabama t

Be kind of hard for Gus to beat Auburn.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on November 10, 2017, 07:26:11 pm
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.
Well, he has been a HC for more then two years and has coached in the SEC. Much better credentials then a C-USA coach who has only been HC for 2 years. I personally don't want Gus but we could do much worse. I don't think he'll be able to repeat what what he did at Auburn but he'll have some good years before he is ran out of Arkansas.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawginj on November 10, 2017, 07:31:39 pm
If? ....If? When did If spell WHEN!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 07:39:16 pm
Be kind of hard for Gus to beat Auburn.

Good catch. My bad. I meant GA. I do think Norvell is the better choice.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 10, 2017, 07:44:21 pm
I'm going to be so disappointed if we end up with Gus.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ipigsooie on November 10, 2017, 07:54:22 pm
Write down all these people on here with "sources or that "know people with money" that are saying it's going to be Gus or he is the leader. I can assure you that this isn't true and at least you'll know who to block as far as who you trust for future leaks.

"Beware of false prophets."  Matt. 7-15
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Danimal on November 10, 2017, 07:54:35 pm
As bad as things are, I truly believe hiring Malzahn would be a huge mistake. He had as big a hand in the political shite-show that ensued as Nutt the last time around -- and he'll have a big hand in it next time.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: fieldturf on November 10, 2017, 08:28:01 pm
No....I don't because Long isn't going to make the decision this time.

And there are some voices for Gus. The anti Gus people ain't got a dog in the fight this time.

PRJ

And that's good, Gus has paid his dues, is proven and can recruit.  Has ties to Ark high schools and can recruit Texas.  Not to mention his staff that he'll bring with him. 
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawginj on November 10, 2017, 08:31:18 pm
And that's good, Gus has paid his dues, is proven and can recruit.  Has ties to Ark high schools and can recruit Texas.  Not to mention his staff that he'll bring with him.
Very little good and a lot of mediocre in that!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawgphat on November 10, 2017, 08:42:37 pm
"No" to Gus - and "no" to his bus

Keep on searching and don't don't raise a fuss

Surely there's someone who's worthy out there

If he's largely unknown I don't really care
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawginj on November 10, 2017, 08:48:27 pm
"No" to Gus - and "no" to his bus

Keep on searching and don't don't raise a fuss

Surely there's someone who's worthy out there

If he's largely unknown I don't really care
Dilly Dilly!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: greasy_corner on November 10, 2017, 09:05:16 pm
Gus would be low on my option list.  I think it would be an improvement, but an already fragile fanbase would fracture even more. 
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: razorbackfaninar on November 10, 2017, 09:35:16 pm
Iíd take Gus in a heartbeat.  Should have been the hire instead of Bert anyway.

Why would you want Gus?  He can't win the west with the recruiting classes he gets at Auburn.  He'll do worse at Arkansas than he does at Auburn. He's winning 7-8 games a year with top 10 talent, I just can't see how any one could think he'd do better here playing in the exact same division. At least when we first Hired Bielema you could pretend what he was doing would work here and he could compete in the SEC west. You already know exactly how Gus can do.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Sundog on November 10, 2017, 09:48:13 pm
Why would you want Gus?  He can't win the west with the recruiting classes he gets at Auburn.  He'll do worse at Arkansas than he does at Auburn. He's winning 7-8 games a year with top 10 talent, I just can't see how any one could think he'd do better here playing in the exact same division. At least when we first Hired Bielema you could pretend what he was doing would work here and he could compete in the SEC west. You already know exactly how Gus can do.

I never pretended Bert would do squat at Arkansas.  He was a bad hire and like many others then, I knew it.  Sounds like you didnít.
Gus... he would have been the best hire for us at the time.  We would NOT be in the position we are now, had Gus been hired instead of Bert.
The issue isnít if Gus would be an upgrade over Bert today; he would be.  The question should be is who would be an upgrade over Gus that we could realistically hire?  It really doesnít matter anyway as Gus would never take the Arkansas job.  Sadly, Auburn is a much better job than Arkansas is today; thanks to Long and Bert.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: scottwillrazbackfan1 on November 10, 2017, 09:59:07 pm
This is Gus' dream job. 4 OOC wins, beat East division opponent every year (Georgia &Florida) ever other time we play them on rotation, beat A&M, MSU, Mizz, Ole Miss and  (LSU,bama, & auburn) 1 out 2. 5-3 conference record, overall 9-3 or 8-4. Very doable and fans would be happy considering the current state of the program.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: moses_007 on November 10, 2017, 10:03:28 pm
I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ
Either Gus or Miles would be nauseous initially.  Regardless, if either gets our job, we have to give them a chance.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hogindasticks on November 10, 2017, 10:03:51 pm
smh
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 10, 2017, 10:06:22 pm
Either Gus or Miles would be nauseous initially.  Regardless, if either gets our job, we have to give them a chance.
Hopefully it's Norvell or Frost.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 10:07:54 pm
Hopefully it's Norvell or Frost.

Won't be Frost. Norvell is the one on people's tongue.....

And then there is Gus.....

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 10, 2017, 10:09:59 pm
Won't be Frost. Norvell is the one on people's tongue.....

And then there is Gus.....

PRJ
Only if the GOBN push Long out, just spitballing
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 10:31:56 pm
Only if the GOBN push Long out, just spitballing

I think Long is gone. At the very least, he will be snipped. If not, we will end up with a speech about integrity and introduced to Leslie Miles.

But I believe this job will end up as Mike Norvell's....or

Gus. And I don't want that.

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 10:48:13 pm
I think Long is gone. At the very least, he will be snipped. If not, we will end up with a speech about integrity and introduced to Leslie Miles.

But I believe this job will end up as Mike Norvell's....or

Gus. And I don't want that.

PRJ

Agree 100%. Gus wonít leave Auburn heís owe them $2.5M, and Iím not sure why weíd take a coach on the down side when we can hire Norvell whoís name is on everyoneís short list and is trending UP. I donít think Gus will be in the running though.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: moses_007 on November 10, 2017, 10:49:00 pm
I think Long is gone. At the very least, he will be snipped. If not, we will end up with a speech about integrity and introduced to Leslie Miles.

But I believe this job will end up as Mike Norvell's....or

Gus. And I don't want that.

PRJ
I am afraid Les Miles has already been offered and accepted.  He wants to coach again, particularly in the SEC.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: duckman on November 10, 2017, 10:56:02 pm
I think Long is gone. At the very least, he will be snipped. If not, we will end up with a speech about integrity and introduced to Leslie Miles.

But I believe this job will end up as Mike Norvell's....or

Gus. And I don't want that.

PRJ

Yep.....

Gus has a lot of support, I am buying.a case of Prilosec....
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 10:57:42 pm
I am afraid Les Miles has already been offered and accepted.  He wants to coach again, particularly in the SEC.

Maybe that is why Jeff was down there yesterday. Getting giggled at about hiring Leslie....

Les just expressed interest in the Oregon St job....I Think Long has been castrated...he won't make this hire.

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Swestwill66 on November 10, 2017, 10:59:16 pm
Will not be Gus or les ! Big name from the north.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: aloha_kid on November 10, 2017, 11:00:08 pm
Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ
What is the attraction with Norvell?  He's got 2 years at a program that was already built. I just don't get it.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: moses_007 on November 10, 2017, 11:00:21 pm
Maybe that is why Jeff was down there yesterday. Getting giggled at about hiring Leslie....

Les just expressed interest in the Oregon St job....I Think Long has been castrated...he won't make this hire.

PRJ
More like hands tied behind back and mouth taped shut with duct tape than castrated.........lol
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 11:02:24 pm
Yep.....

Gus has a lot of support, I am buying.a case of Prilosec....

This all started when Paul Finebaum mentioned this a week ago. It has no credibility @ all. If he werenít from Arkansas he wouldnít be mentioned. Last time a coach from The SEC was fired from one school and was hired by another was Houston Nutt. Hopefully, history doesnít repeat itself. Gus would be under more scrutiny here than he is @ Auburn. This is a losing proposition for Gus. Heíll never coach here any way. Hire Norvell.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: 247Hog on November 10, 2017, 11:03:58 pm
Won't be Frost. Norvell is the one on people's tongue.....

And then there is Gus.....

PRJ

I said Norvell when you was pushing Horton. Guess that fell off.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: duckman on November 10, 2017, 11:04:10 pm
In my opinion, they are interested in 3 names right now....

In order:

1. Gus
2. Gundy (yes Gundy)
3. Norvell

Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: hogfooey on November 10, 2017, 11:04:28 pm
This all started when Paul Finebaum mentioned this a week ago. It has no credibility @ all. If he werenít from Arkansas he wouldnít be mentioned. Last time a coach from The SEC was fired from one school and was hired by another was Houston Nutt. Hopefully, history doesnít repeat itself. Gus would be under more scrutiny here than he is @ Auburn. This is a losing proposition for Gus. Heíll never coach here any way. Hire Norvell.

I hope history repeats itself exactly.  Coach fired from Arkansas, then hired by Ole Miss.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: duckman on November 10, 2017, 11:05:46 pm
This all started when Paul Finebaum mentioned this a week ago. It has no credibility @ all. If he werenít from Arkansas he wouldnít be mentioned. Last time a coach from The SEC was fired from one school and was hired by another was Houston Nutt. Hopefully, history doesnít repeat itself. Gus would be under more scrutiny here than he is @ Auburn. This is a losing proposition for Gus. Heíll never coach here any way. Hire Norvell.

I agree, I loathe Gus,...  But watch....
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: moses_007 on November 10, 2017, 11:06:21 pm
If the BOT has told the Chancellor to make Long fire Bielema, and if they decided to remove Long from hiring the next coach, I wonder who they recommended to the Chancellor?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 11:06:26 pm
What is the attraction with Norvell?  He's got 2 years at a program that was already built. I just don't get it.

Heís playing 11 freshmen or sophomores including the QB his recruits, Fuenteís highest recruiting class was 89 Norvellís last class was 50, which is the highest class Memphis has ever had, Norvell fits the culture @ Arkansas, played @ UCA from Texas. If you drew a picture of the perfect coach youíd draw Mike Norvell.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: BoynamedWooPigSooie on November 10, 2017, 11:07:41 pm
What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.


If?  IF?  IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF?

It's really the only logical conclusion and only possible outcome at this point.  He's proven what can and can't do and it just only isn't up to snuff it's simply the worst coaching performance in the history of modern Razorback football.

Gotta gut the losses and start over. 

He technically recruited better than any coach we've had in the recruiting rankings era, but he still badly mismanaged the roster and missed terribly on many OL/LB signees (his bread and butter).

With Bielema gone I believe recruiting will improve again so long that the new coach makes it a top priority and hires coaches with experience in our recruiting footprint. He's obviously not doing as bad as the volleyball program in keeping homegrown talent but those are usually kids who are fulfilling a dream by being privileged enough to wear that Hog.

All the foundation and bells and whistle things are in place now it's time to hire a killer that can close the deal.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: 247Hog on November 10, 2017, 11:08:41 pm
I agree, I loathe Gus,...  But watch....

I was going to go to bed feeling good but you ruined it with the Gus comments Duckman  :puke:

Hope you're wrong about the interest.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: duckman on November 10, 2017, 11:10:13 pm
I was going to go to bed feeling good but you ruined it with the Gus comments Duckman  :puke:

Hope you're wrong about the interest.

I just hope Auburn slips up on Bama....
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 11:11:25 pm
I agree, I loathe Gus,...  But watch....

Watch what? Do you really think Gus ends up @ Arkansas. Gus hasnít exactly had a pristine reputation from Pinnacle Preps to Cam Newton. I honestly donít see the attraction. If Norvell is winning with Fuenteís player then Gus won with Chizikís players. If Gus wasnít from Arkansas he wouldnít even be mentioned. This is poor little Arkiesaw mentality. Norvell is one of the hottest coaches in the nation, not a retread or cast off.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: 247Hog on November 10, 2017, 11:11:34 pm
I just hope Auburn slips up on Bama....

Agreed. Gus bothers me about as much as HDN did.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: porkrindjimmy on November 10, 2017, 11:11:44 pm
I said Norvell when you was pushing Horton. Guess that fell off.

I never pushed Tim Horton. Never. I told you some people were pushing for Tim Horton...

Jeez, y'all can't comprehend worth a shite.....

What changed was the names. Tim Horton wasn't going to get the gig but at the time, the only people pushing to get Bret gone was a few guys who wanted Tim Horton. I have explained this ad nauseum....

PRJ
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 11:13:31 pm
Agreed. Gus bothers me about as much as HDN did.

Watching him pick his nose the whole game would get old quickly!!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: duckman on November 10, 2017, 11:14:21 pm
Watch what? Do you really think Gus ends up @ Arkansas. Gus hasnít exactly had a pristine reputation from Pinnacle Preps to Cam Newton. I honestly donít see the attraction. If Norvell is winning with Fuenteís player then Gus won with Chizikís players. If Gus wasnít from Arkansas he wouldnít even be mentioned. This is poor little Arkiesaw mentality. Norvell is one of the hottest coaches in the nation, not a retread or cast off.

I hate Gus, really hope he beats Geogia or Bama....
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on November 10, 2017, 11:14:28 pm
I just hope Auburn slips up on Bama....
Sounds like we need to ride to Tuscaloosa and release the swine flu the week of thanksgiving.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: razorbackfaninar on November 10, 2017, 11:16:50 pm
This is Gus' dream job. 4 OOC wins, beat East division opponent every year (Georgia &Florida) ever other time we play them on rotation, beat A&M, MSU, Mizz, Ole Miss and  (LSU,bama, & auburn) 1 out 2. 5-3 conference record, overall 9-3 or 8-4. Very doable and fans would be happy considering the current state of the program.

Maybe I am not explaining it right. Gus went 8,7,8 in the last three seasons.  He's won 7 this year and likely going to lose 2 of  his next 3 and win 8 this season.  Meanwhile at Auburn he's pulled in the 6th 9th and 8th recruiting class in the country the last three cycles, something no coach has been able to do at Arkansas since we joined the SEC. so how exactly is he supposed to do better than he is currently doing at Auburn in the exact same division as he is currently coaching but with the 25th best class in the nation instead of the 6th 8th or 9th?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: 247Hog on November 10, 2017, 11:18:11 pm
Maybe I am not explaining it right. Gus went 8,7,8 in the last three seasons.  He's won 7 this year and likely going to lose 2 of  his next 3 and win 8 this season.  Meanwhile at Auburn he's pulled in the 6th 9th and 8th recruiting class in the country the last three cycles, something no coach has been able to do at Arkansas since we joined the SEC. so how exactly is he supposed to do better than he is currently doing at Auburn in the exact same division as he is currently coaching but with the 25th best class in the nation instead of the 6th 8th or 9th?


This needs to be repeated 100 more times in every Gus thread! Not sarcasm, im serious!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 10, 2017, 11:21:50 pm
Maybe I am not explaining it right. Gus went 8,7,8 in the last three seasons.  He's won 7 this year and likely going to lose 2 of  his next 3 and win 8 this season.  Meanwhile at Auburn he's pulled in the 6th 9th and 8th recruiting class in the country the last three cycles, something no coach has been able to do at Arkansas since we joined the SEC. so how exactly is he supposed to do better than he is currently doing at Auburn in the exact same division as he is currently coaching but with the 25th best class in the nation instead of the 6th 8th or 9th?

Itís also very concerning that he hasnít developed a QB while @ĎAuburn with all of those top 10 recruiting classes. Heís about to go 8-4 with Stidham who was a preseason heisman candidate. Cam Newton was already Cam Newton. I also never want to see Kristi & Armani Ronnie on the sideline. Itís not going to happen.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: 247Hog on November 10, 2017, 11:27:31 pm
Itís also very concerning that he hasnít developed a QB while @ĎAuburn with all of those top 10 recruiting classes. Heís about to go 8-4 with Stidham who was a preseason heisman candidate. Cam Newton was already Cam Newton. I also never want to see Kristi & Armani Ronnie on the sideline. Itís not going to happen.

Talk about setting the program back...i can't even imagine how bad it's going to get if he struggles. Fanbase is already so divided regarding Gus.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 10, 2017, 11:33:34 pm
I may be sick.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: moses_007 on November 10, 2017, 11:34:17 pm
Arkansas built the nice Football Operations Center with the thought it would help with recruiting, but it hasn't.  We actually recruited better from the old Broyles Center.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: urkillnmesmalls on November 10, 2017, 11:48:42 pm
 

If the UA's decision makers aren't bright enough to realize that Gus is getting top 10 recruiting classes annually, and winning 7-8 games, and that doesn't translate well to our top 30 recruiting...then God help us all. 

And Les...don't get me started on that windbag.  I used to think his schtick was to act dumb, but I also used to think BB was just "calm and laid back" on the sideline too. Now I'm more convinced that Les is the dullest tool in the shed with dim bulbs, and BB was calm because he doesn't know enough about football x's and o's to digest what he's watching. 

PLEASE...neither of those two.  Gus would have been a better hire than BB, and I'm convinced of that.  But...now is not the time...we need to move on to a fresh start.     
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: tlmack on November 11, 2017, 12:54:14 am
Please no to Gus !
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hog Pharm on November 11, 2017, 01:34:08 am
Why would you want Gus?  He can't win the west with the recruiting classes he gets at Auburn.  He'll do worse at Arkansas than he does at Auburn. He's winning 7-8 games a year with top 10 talent, I just can't see how any one could think he'd do better here playing in the exact same division. At least when we first Hired Bielema you could pretend what he was doing would work here and he could compete in the SEC west. You already know exactly how Gus can do.

Umm he won the west and made the NC game. Sitting at 7-2 now. Thats pretty darn good.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: kodiakisland on November 11, 2017, 05:49:14 am
Iíd take Gus in a heartbeat.  Should have been the hire instead of Bert anyway.

Great! More mediocrity.  He can't win enough at Auburn, so what do you think he will do with less talent and a slightly harder schedule?  Great.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: RexMentor on November 11, 2017, 06:05:52 am
I don't think Gus will be offered the Arkansas job. Too toxic and he'd come in with 50 percent of the fan base against him. I think it's more likely he will be offered the A&M job, at least from SEC schools. As for the $2.5 million he'd owe if he leaves, he won't pay that because the school that hires him will pay that. If Gus goes, he'll go where he can be worshipped the most. Yes, his ego is that big. That's not Arkansas.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Pork Twain on November 11, 2017, 06:10:04 am
What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.
As is the case with every single hire, it all depends on who the new hire is.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: parallaxpig on November 11, 2017, 06:47:51 am
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.


Yes let's hire Gus and divide the fan base on day one. Excellent plan.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 11, 2017, 06:51:43 am
I am afraid Les Miles has already been offered and accepted.  He wants to coach again, particularly in the SEC.
I think Miles is a last resort mainly because of his age
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: razorbackfaninar on November 11, 2017, 06:56:11 am
Umm he won the west and made the NC game. Sitting at 7-2 now. Thats pretty darn good.

That was in 2013, and since he's won 8, 7, and 8, games and this year he's won 7 and likely going to lose 2 of his next 3 and have another 8 win season.  Now I may be wrong, but I can't see how he is going to even be able to do that good at Arkansas given that his last 4 recruiting classes have been ranked 10th, 6th, 9th, and 6th, and ours were 22,23,29,23 nationally. He would be playing the exact same teams but with less talent. Hiring him makes no sense whatsoever. With a lot of candidates you can look at their body of work and try to guess how they may do here against the type of competition we face weekly. With Gus you already know exactly how he'll do, not very good.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 11, 2017, 07:00:21 am
I don't think Gus will be offered the Arkansas job. Too toxic and he'd come in with 50 percent of the fan base against him. I think it's more likely he will be offered the A&M job, at least from SEC schools. As for the $2.5 million he'd owe if he leaves, he won't pay that because the school that hires him will pay that. If Gus goes, he'll go where he can be worshipped the most. Yes, his ego is that big. That's not Arkansas.
I thought the same thing a week ago but things have changed.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: irahogfan on November 11, 2017, 07:04:45 am
No to Gus




Hopefully he has a no compete clause for SEC schools!!!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: longtimeHogfan on November 11, 2017, 07:43:09 am
Hopefully it's Norvell or Frost.

I like Frost too, but his ties to Nebraska go way back.  If those folks up there should fire their coach Scott Frost would seem a natural for them.  Even if our opening came up first and we got him here I'd always wonder if he was looking to bolt to 'Big Red' at the first opportunity. 
Title: Fire Brett Bielema!
Post by: bigpigpimpin on November 11, 2017, 08:06:22 am
Just wanted to be the first one to say it today. Preemptive strike.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: RexMentor on November 11, 2017, 08:06:37 am
I thought the same thing a week ago but things have changed.

Of course those that want him see this present situation as their best chance in five years to get him and they are going after it for all they are worth. I don't think they will succeed. The GOBN is far strong than the Springdale chapter of same club. And that's assuming the GOBN can get anything done anymore.
Title: Re: Fire Brett Bielema!
Post by: NuttinItUp on November 11, 2017, 08:11:19 am
Did you purchase any banner-flying time?
Title: Re: Fire Brett Bielema!
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on November 11, 2017, 08:12:50 am
You forgot fire the carpetbagger too...
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 11, 2017, 08:14:34 am
I never pretended Bert would do squat at Arkansas.  He was a bad hire and like many others then, I knew it.  Sounds like you didnít.
Gus... he would have been the best hire for us at the time.  We would NOT be in the position we are now, had Gus been hired instead of Bert.
The issue isnít if Gus would be an upgrade over Bert today; he would be.  The question should be is who would be an upgrade over Gus that we could realistically hire?  It really doesnít matter anyway as Gus would never take the Arkansas job.  Sadly, Auburn is a much better job than Arkansas is today; thanks to Long and Bert.

So, you knew this back in 2012, I'm guessing since you were posting back then that you were still in school at Shiloh?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: The NewEra on November 11, 2017, 08:18:09 am
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.

I really don't want Gus coaching Arkansas.  That being said, I'll fully support the next coach for at least the first three years.  After that they will have to earn my support.

This fan base has been fractured for far too long.  It's time everyone get behind the new coach, whoever that may be.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Sundog on November 11, 2017, 08:23:37 am
So, you knew this back in 2012, I'm guessing since you were posting back then that you were still in school at Shiloh?

Youíre darned right I knew back in 2012 that Bert WAS NOT a good hire for Arkansas. Lots of informed people did as well.  Bert was NEVER going to be successful bringing big 10 football to Arkansas.  That plus his hubris was his undoing. 
Posts on hogville...LOL.  My goodness, what a baseline for relevance. 
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 11, 2017, 08:26:48 am
Youíre darned right I knew back in 2012 that Bert WAS NOT a good hire for Arkansas. Lots of informed people did as well.  Bert was NEVER going to be successful bringing big 10 football to Arkansas.  That plus his hubris was his undoing. 
Posts on hogville...LOL.  My goodness, what a baseline for relevance. 

So, you posted this anywhere? I mean, you took the time and trouble to sign up on here a month ago to tell us all of your wisdom, I figure you were shouting it from the mountain tops in 2012.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: 89ALUM on November 11, 2017, 08:28:43 am
I'm hoping its Greg Schiano.  Fits the profile of getting another northerner, so Long is happy.  He's a solid recruiter, pulled in some good classes at Rutgers, which can't be easy to recruit to.

Plus he has the benefit of being a hell of a defensive coach.  Pair him with an OC who can work with that side of the ball, and I think he could turn us around next year.

Although he failed in the NFL, there's plenty of other guys who failed there and came back to college to succeed. 

If we can't land him, I'd settle for Gundy.  My dream candidate would be Leach, but I don't see any way he comes here.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 11, 2017, 08:30:34 am
I'm hoping its Greg Schiano.  Fits the profile of getting another northerner, so Long is happy.  He's a solid recruiter, pulled in some good classes at Rutgers, which can't be easy to recruit to.

Plus he has the benefit of being a hell of a defensive coach.  Pair him with an OC who can work with that side of the ball, and I think he could turn us around next year.

Although he failed in the NFL, there's plenty of other guys who failed there and came back to college to succeed. 

If we can't land him, I'd settle for Gundy.  My dream candidate would be Leach, but I don't see any way he comes here.

The plane was in Columbus last month.................or if could have been Steinmetz sold his house there. 
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: East Clintwood on November 11, 2017, 08:32:53 am
It would buy him at least 4-6 more years making $4m+. His wife would be closer to family. No one would be trying to run him off for losing to Bama and UGA.


But you would have a rather large contingent that would immediately start trying to run him off just because he's Gus.  It would  be just as bad as if we tried to bring back BP or Hootie.

I just don't think we should be trying to hire a coach that has such a large group of people already lined up against him.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: TDHawgs on November 11, 2017, 08:33:07 am
I used to hate Gus as much as anyone, but guys.. he's a million times better than what we have right now.. if you can't see that, then I don't know what to say. This is the worst Razorback team I've ever witnessed. #AnyoneButBielema
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: duckman on November 11, 2017, 09:16:40 am
Just wanted to be the first one to say it today. Preemptive strike.

Yep...
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ChicoHog on November 11, 2017, 09:23:05 am
It may take a dip this cycle, but every coach has recruited about the same.
That's why we need a dynamic recruiter.  We need to be close to the level of A&M, Tenn, SCarolina and beat the Mississippi schools in order to move up in the SEC on the field.  Hire Brent Venables!

Maybe Norvell can recruit, I don't know.  But we won't be able to compete consistently unless we recruit better than we currently are. 
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 11, 2017, 09:43:20 am
This speculation we have in coach searches is a barrel of fun, and 99.99% is pure speculation it's usually someone we didn't even think of. We learn who knows something and who is blowing smoke by the time we have our new coach. So let's keep it up. ;D
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: GuvHog on November 11, 2017, 09:53:08 am

But you would have a rather large contingent that would immediately start trying to run him off just because he's Gus.  It would  be just as bad as if we tried to bring back BP or Hootie.

I just don't think we should be trying to hire a coach that has such a large group of people already lined up against him.

Agreed. Gus would last maybe 3 years. There is too much animosity over what happened in 2006.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: snoblind on November 11, 2017, 10:10:42 am
So, you posted this anywhere? I mean, you took the time and trouble to sign up on here a month ago to tell us all of your wisdom, I figure you were shouting it from the mountain tops in 2012.

He completely missed your point.  Not surprising.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Sundog on November 11, 2017, 10:19:50 am
So, you posted this anywhere? I mean, you took the time and trouble to sign up on here a month ago to tell us all of your wisdom, I figure you were shouting it from the mountain tops in 2012.

What part of: ďmy world doesnít revolve around hogville postsĒ donít you understand?  Hint:Mr. 42,000 posts....people have dialogue and opinions that donít include Hogville.  Why donít you try it!
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 11, 2017, 10:23:39 am
What part of: ďmy world doesnít revolve around hogville postsĒ donít you understand?  Hint:Mr. 42,000 posts....people have dialogue and opinions that donít include Hogville.  Why donít you try it!

Did I say HV? You're the one who keeps mentioning HV, not me. So, the reason to come on here and tell us now, 5 years after the fact is? I mean, your world doesn't revolve around HV?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Seebs on November 11, 2017, 10:26:56 am
My sprint guides just informed me that Norvelle is the next coach and two of the present coaches will be retained. We will get the DL coach from ASU and the offensive line coach from Iowa State.

Wait .. waht's that? .. .yes .. three of teh staff will be from texas .. . yes .. yessssss .. .now lottery numbers ... 13, no 15 .. wait no .. . .. dammit
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Ozarkhog05 on November 11, 2017, 10:27:10 am
Be kind of hard for Gus to beat Auburn.
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Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 11, 2017, 10:29:45 am
My sprint guides just informed me that Norvelle is the next coach and two of the present coaches will be retained. We will get the DL coach from ASU and the offensive line coach from Iowa State.

Wait .. waht's that? .. .yes .. three of teh staff will be from texas .. . yes .. yessssss .. .now lottery numbers ... 13, no 15 .. wait no .. . .. dammit
That pretty good stuff your smoking?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on November 11, 2017, 10:31:07 am
My sprint guides just informed me that Norvelle is the next coach and two of the present coaches will be retained. We will get the DL coach from ASU and the offensive line coach from Iowa State.

Wait .. waht's that? .. .yes .. three of teh staff will be from texas .. . yes .. yessssss .. .now lottery numbers ... 13, no 15 .. wait no .. . .. dammit
puff puff pass....
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Seebs on November 11, 2017, 10:37:00 am
I am high on life fellas. Pity those that are not.

My spirit guide just informed me that Coach O just gave a rallying call to his team in a strange unknown language. They are cheering and frothing from the mouth.

My guide just slipped into the Razorback locker room and the coaches are eating blueberry pie with their hands.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Sundog on November 11, 2017, 10:42:56 am
Did I say HV? You're the one who keeps mentioning HV, not me. So, the reason to come on here and tell us now, 5 years after the fact is? I mean, your world doesn't revolve around HV?

Iíve tried to make this as simple for you to understand as I can; Iím sorry you canít seem to get it.  Let me try it one more time as remedially as I can.  I (as did many other insightful people) knew, when hired, that Bert-ball would fail.  Iím sorry if you canít grasp that.  Posting or not posting has no bearing on that; irrespective of YOUR worldview, Mr. 42,000 posts, that posting matters.  It doesnít. Get it?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 11, 2017, 10:43:49 am
May be time to change the thread title. Take off the "If" and replace it with "When".
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: SooieGeneris on November 11, 2017, 10:46:34 am
Be kind of hard for Gus to beat Auburn.

He did it in the NC game vs Florida State and a few other times...
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Piggfoot on November 11, 2017, 10:47:29 am
Agreed. Gus would last maybe 3 years. There is too much animosity over what happened in 2006.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 11, 2017, 10:52:07 am
What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.
If? It's already a done deal, friendo. As for ramifications of change in coaches, we will go from a bad head coach (his team has won 11 SEC games in 4 5/8's seasons, to a new head coach with energy, new potential and hope in the fanbase. Hope is gone now. No brainer to get someone else in there.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: ricepig on November 11, 2017, 10:56:43 am
Iíve tried to make this as simple for you to understand as I can; Iím sorry you canít seem to get it.  Let me try it one more time as remedially as I can.  I (as did many other insightful people) knew, when hired, that Bert-ball would fail.  Iím sorry if you canít grasp that.  Posting or not posting has no bearing on that; irrespective of YOUR worldview, Mr. 42,000 posts, that posting matters.  It doesnít. Get it?


Cool, so you signed up to tell us what you thought 5 years ago......
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Sundog on November 11, 2017, 11:04:06 am
Cool, so you signed up to tell us what you thought 5 years ago......

No, apparently just you.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: grayhawg on November 11, 2017, 11:09:39 am
No, apparently just you.
I'll give you this, good or bad you've been on HV one month and 4 days and pick a fight with one of the most reliable posters we have.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Sundog on November 11, 2017, 11:18:27 am
I'll give you this, good or bad you've been on HV one month and 4 days and pick a fight with one of the most reliable posters we have.

Iím only responding to his confusion. Not picking any fights with you or your reliable buddies.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Athog on November 11, 2017, 01:45:54 pm
The $$$$ doesnít want Gus, so no Gus. We wonít be looking backwards. Gus has 0.0%. His name may be floated, but if they beat Georgia, it wonít even be floated. Unless, something drastic changes itíll most likely be Norvell or Neal Brown.

What is your source? Just a guess?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: havok on November 11, 2017, 01:51:01 pm
People on Radio/TV have said firing the coach now (Before season end) will do no good.

I say people are not going to show up for the remaining home games, because they don't want to take the chance that their attendance, is in any measure, is perceived as support for BB to be retained.  If they let him go now..the commitment to change would have fans more likely to attend, just to show the players their support and will be there for them next season with who ever is hired to coach them.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 11, 2017, 01:53:18 pm
People on Radio/TV have said firing the coach now (Before season end) will do no good.

I say people are not going to show up for the remaining home games, because they don't want to take the chance that their attendance, is in any measure, is perceived as support for BB to be retained.  If they let him go now..the commitment to change would have fans more likely to attend, just to show the players their support and will be there for them next season with who ever is hired to coach them.
Next 2 games will be full due to the freak show that U of A football has become. Everyone enjoys a circus and a car wreck. Get to see this entire staff coach their last two games at Arkansas.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Darren DeLoach (semohawg) on November 11, 2017, 02:13:23 pm
What is your source? Just a guess?

He has zero sources, and as much as it pains me, Gus has a lot of support to be on the Hill. I hope their new AD loves Gus and keeps him down on the Plains.
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Quickdraw on November 11, 2017, 02:28:22 pm
That was in 2013, and since he's won 8, 7, and 8, games and this year he's won 7 and likely going to lose 2 of his next 3 and have another 8 win season.  Now I may be wrong, but I can't see how he is going to even be able to do that good at Arkansas given that his last 4 recruiting classes have been ranked 10th, 6th, 9th, and 6th, and ours were 22,23,29,23 nationally. He would be playing the exact same teams but with less talent. Hiring him makes no sense whatsoever. With a lot of candidates you can look at their body of work and try to guess how they may do here against the type of competition we face weekly. With Gus you already know exactly how he'll do, not very good.

I have read on this message board for quite sometime how this coach won't work and the other one would not be a good hire. And another one would split the fan base. So, I have three questions.

1. Is Arkansas a 1st tier or 2nd tier school?
2. How many games does a coach have to win on average for the fans to be happy enough to keep?
3. And Which coach would Arkansas have to hire for this to become a reality?
Title: Re: If BB gets the axe
Post by: Hawg Life on November 11, 2017, 02:35:15 pm
He has zero sources, and as much as it pains me, Gus has a lot of support to be on the Hill. I hope their new AD loves Gus and keeps him down on the Plains.

Who supports Gus? You heard Paul Finebaum mention that it would be interesting, and you took that as the gospel. I donít know who theyíll hire, but it wonít be Gus.