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Title: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: DemiHOG on November 10, 2017, 02:25:46 pm
May take a few more years but I can see a crash coming, espn cutting back, high cost of tickets, coaches salaries, pricing common folks out. So much waste, can't sell out but expanding stadium . I see some rainy days coming and for all of football, pros, college, what do you all think?
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: theFlyingHog on November 10, 2017, 02:30:49 pm
There will always be corrections in everything. It's cyclical. Disney/ESPN overstepped and are paying for it.
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on November 10, 2017, 02:42:19 pm
Common folks can go to most any game every season for most programs.  They just don't sit behind glass or in the clubs.

It is why our expansion is smart.  Limited number of additional seats but what is being added brings comfort and amenities to those who want it. 

College football may need to follow the NFL's lead in limiting stadiums capacities.  It will reach a tipping point when you add the assault on the game by some due to injuries. 

Coaching salaries are stupidly high till you realize what a successful program brings to a university.   

The TV money will fade.  We'll see if the popularity does.  NFL is slipping right now.  It may head down the college basketball path whose popularity peaked long ago. 
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: jvanhorn on November 10, 2017, 03:09:00 pm
Common folks can go to most any game every season for most programs.  They just don't sit behind glass or in the clubs.

It is why our expansion is smart.  Limited number of additional seats but what is being added brings comfort and amenities to those who want it. 

College football may need to follow the NFL's lead in limiting stadiums capacities.  It will reach a tipping point when you add the assault on the game by some due to injuries. 

Coaching salaries are stupidly high till you realize what a successful program brings to a university.   

The TV money will fade.  We'll see if the popularity does.  NFL is slipping right now.  It may head down the college basketball path whose popularity peaked long ago. 

Not just football pricing themselves out of business.  All sports.  Check what it would take to take a family of 4 to see the St. Louis Cardinals for a couple of days..  Tickets, motel, food, parking, t-shirts, etc. 
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Post by: Seebs on November 10, 2017, 03:09:57 pm
Going to the Battle of the Ravine this weekend.  The price is right
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Post by: NuttinItUp on November 10, 2017, 03:11:04 pm
I am going with Betteridge's law of headlines on this one.
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Post by: DeltaBoy on November 10, 2017, 03:19:24 pm
Howard Payne home final  20 bucks for ga,s 30 bucks to eat after the game  and 10 bucks to get in the game. And I will spend 7-10 at the concessions stand.

They play Louisiana College.
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: hogsanity on November 10, 2017, 03:38:25 pm
College fans can still go to just about any game cheap. Tickets can routinely be had for under face on the various ticket sites. Now when you start figuring in hotels, etc, yea it gets pricey, BUT THAT has NOTHING to do with college football pricing itself out of business.
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Post by: DemiHOG on November 10, 2017, 04:24:23 pm
Thanks for your responses
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Post by: East TN HAWG on November 10, 2017, 06:18:11 pm
Not just football pricing themselves out of business.  All sports.  Check what it would take to take a family of 4 to see the St. Louis Cardinals for a couple of days..  Tickets, motel, food, parking, t-shirts, etc. 


I see it with NASCAR as well.  The redneck blur collar worker can't go as often.  They have out priced their base, and now the sport is dying. They
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: hamARchy in the USA on November 10, 2017, 07:26:38 pm
May take a few more years but I can see a crash coming, espn cutting back, high cost of tickets, coaches salaries, pricing common folks out. So much waste, can't sell out but expanding stadium . I see some rainy days coming and for all of football, pros, college, what do you all think?

It's going to be a lot more than just football, a lot worse than some rainy days, and a lot sooner than a few more years.
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: Bkhardicars on November 10, 2017, 07:44:27 pm
I used to buy 4 season tickets, but the wife and daughters didn't really care that much about it, so I dropped 2 and would invite someone.For me it was a perfect storm of losing and continuing to raise the prices that I dropped the season tickets and started buying them from individuals outside the stadium for games I only REALLY wanted to see...Last year it was the LSU game, this year it was TCU..I still want them to win every game, but I'm happier keeping my 50-$75 I spend and watching them on TV. ESPECIALLY When we lose.. I'm not boycotting per say, I just really don't want to spend the money on an event that more often than not ends in me becoming angry or upset. IT truly will take a lot to get me back to endure a 2 mile walk after paying $10 to park in someone's cramped yard, shell out a minimum of $50 for a seat sitting next to someone I don't know, spending $10-$15 for a hotdog and "PEPSI". Even when we win, I enjoy sitting on my porch, lighting a stogie, and listening to the post game show about as much as walking back to my car and fighting traffic and missing other games..
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Post by: grayhawg on November 10, 2017, 07:50:07 pm
I used to buy 4 season tickets, but the wife and daughters didn't really care that much about it, so I dropped 2 and would invite someone.For me it was a perfect storm of losing and continuing to raise the prices that I dropped the season tickets and started buying them from individuals outside the stadium for games I only REALLY wanted to see...Last year it was the LSU game, this year it was TCU..I still want them to win every game, but I'm happier keeping my 50-$75 I spend and watching them on TV. ESPECIALLY When we lose.. I'm not boycotting per say, I just really don't want to spend the money on an event that more often than not ends in me becoming angry or upset. IT truly will take a lot to get me back to endure a 2 mile walk after paying $10 to park in someone's cramped yard, shell out a minimum of $50 for a seat sitting next to someone I don't know, spending $10-$15 for a hotdog and "PEPSI". Even when we win, I enjoy sitting on my porch, lighting a stogie, and listening to the post game show about as much as walking back to my car and fighting traffic and missing other games..
I think college football is like a new chevy truck no matter how high there will still be people paying the price. While getting the wife's car serviced I walked around the new truck lot, seen some over 60k.
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Post by: hotdog hog on November 10, 2017, 08:09:04 pm
We went to the Texas AM game and considering both teams started badly was able to buy two tix on the 40yd line for about $100 less than face value with sir charges.
On vacation this summer we attended a MLS game in Dallas and bought front row seats for the four of us for about equal money we payed to watch the MLB Rangers and sat in the right field. Because soccer is a growing sport, the value is incredible for most events.
I paid $5 per day to watch the SEC Tourney in Orange Beach last week. Can't beat it for value, considering how much it cost ($75- $100) to just park at an NFL game.
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Post by: Rzback on November 10, 2017, 08:43:28 pm
I agree DemiHog, the fall is coming.
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Post by: ImHogginIt on November 10, 2017, 08:49:16 pm
I see it with NASCAR as well.  The redneck blur collar worker can't go as often.  They have out priced their base, and now the sport is dying. They

Actually prices have dropped a lot in recent years but still no takers. The sport opened too many mile and a half and 2 mile tracks in the late 90's early 2000's that are boring as sin to watch. They need to go back to their roots with short tracks
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: grayhawg on November 10, 2017, 08:55:40 pm
Actually prices have dropped a lot in recent years but still no takers. The sport opened too many mile and a half and 2 mile tracks in the late 90's early 2000's that are boring as sin to watch. They need to go back to their roots with short tracks
And do away with the bodies being the same with different decals, it was a lot better when it was weight+cubic inches and carburators, just run what you brung. I hate this shape template they use on all the cars. And like you said go back to 1/2, 3/4 ans one mile tracks.
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: East TN HAWG on November 10, 2017, 10:20:14 pm
Actually prices have dropped a lot in recent years but still no takers. The sport opened too many mile and a half and 2 mile tracks in the late 90's early 2000's that are boring as sin to watch. They need to go back to their roots with short tracks
I live less than a mile from short track in Bristol.  Even this track is dead and it was once the hardest ticket to get.  Half seats are empty.  Its dead. 

Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: BigoBoys on November 10, 2017, 10:27:21 pm
Better read this. 

 https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/11/08/bob-costas-future-football-nfl-this-game-destroys-peoples-brains/842904001/

Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: Torqued pork on November 10, 2017, 11:25:12 pm
Sometimes it's about changed priorities.  I personally know a couple of guys who used to practically never miss home games. These days they're more interested in fishing out of their $50,000 bass boats or pulling their $15,000 side-by-sides to the woods with their $50,000 trucks. It isn't always a money issue.
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Post by: moses_007 on November 10, 2017, 11:47:52 pm
Yes colleges have priced tickets way too high for the average fan.  Why pay $80 or more to sit in the stadium when you can watch it for free on TV.  I know I'm not.

Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: ricepig on November 11, 2017, 08:24:05 am
Yes colleges have priced tickets way too high for the average fan.  Why pay $80 or more to sit in the stadium when you can watch it for free on TV.  I know I'm not.


Free TV??
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Post by: ballz2thewall on November 11, 2017, 08:33:20 am
the interruption factor with greatest potential impact is the inequities with regard to the players.

that day is coming.

the CTE issue is materializing as well.....
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: 12247 on November 11, 2017, 09:16:51 am
I agree that football is becoming less popular as it pertains to where you spend your money.
TV bundled with internet takes a huge portion of the average family income when you you get 8, maybe 10 channels you want, 75 you hate, and middle of the road internet for $200.00 + monthly.  Many are jumping ship on this ripoff.
Every family member above 8 years old has a cell phone and even family pricing still takes another $200.00+ monthly. 
Moms and Dads both working to afford the GOOD life triples the food budget and doubles the vehicle budget monthly so we can eat filthy crap to drive us to the necessity of mega bucks medical attention earlier and earlier in life. 
If your fingers represented the U S population, the actual middle class has dwindled from being the middle 3 fingers to being just the middle finger so stand that up folks and that is most of us.  Get the picture.
The medical aspects of playing football are now known.  Parents won't let many children play the game.  Thousands of children would rather set on the couch and play video games versus the effort necessary to play football.
The family entertainment budget is moving more toward a true family experience versus Dad and maybe the boys demanding a football game(s).
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Post by: duckman on November 11, 2017, 09:20:41 am
There will always be corrections in everything. It's cyclical. Disney/ESPN overstepped and are paying for it.

Actually ESPN made the fatal mistake of getting political....  Dumbest move there is, alienate half of your audience.
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: Cinco de Hogo on November 11, 2017, 09:29:12 am
Sometimes it's about changed priorities.  I personally know a couple of guys who used to practically never miss home games. These days they're more interested in fishing out of their $50,000 bass boats or pulling their $15,000 side-by-sides to the woods with their $50,000 trucks. It isn't always a money issue.

Right it's not, it's about winning!
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Post by: Cinco de Hogo on November 11, 2017, 09:31:52 am
Actually ESPN made the fatal mistake of getting political....  Dumbest more there is, alienate half of your audience.

Just following the Disney Model.
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Post by: Hogwild on November 11, 2017, 09:49:25 am
Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??

There will always be corrections in everything. It's cyclical. Disney/ESPN overstepped and are paying for it.

I would say no.  If I could make it up to Baton Rouge I could get a ticket for today's game for $10.   Homecoming tickets last week were selling for $2, would expect to pay no more that $5 to either of the remaining home games.

As far as the TV money, the SEC deal is the best deal ESPN has. The billion dollar deal with the NFL for Monday Night Football and one wild card game is killing them. When their deal expires in 2020, don't be surprised if ESPN goes with Monday Night Football SEC edition.  They savings from switch the NFL to SEC on Monday Nights would be over $700 million.

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Post by: Youngsta71701 on November 11, 2017, 09:54:03 am
May take a few more years but I can see a crash coming, espn cutting back, high cost of tickets, coaches salaries, pricing common folks out. So much waste, can't sell out but expanding stadium . I see some rainy days coming and for all of football, pros, college, what do you all think?
Tickets are way too damn high. If you got a family of four and you're an out of towner your just up shits creek.
Title: Re: College football pricing themselves out of business??
Post by: jvanhorn on November 11, 2017, 03:50:05 pm
Yes colleges have priced tickets way too high for the average fan.  Why pay $80 or more to sit in the stadium when you can watch it for free on TV.  I know I'm not.



Well at least at a baseball stadium they give you a seat to sit in.   All you get in football is bench, lol.   How in the hell did they get away with that?
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Post by: GTOWNHOG on November 11, 2017, 04:39:48 pm
Club seats in the new NEZ at Razorback Stadium will cost either $1,350 or $1,500 per seat per year.  4 seats = $5,400 to $6,000 per year .........for END ZONE seats.   Loge boxes with 4 seats for $14,000 per year, two year minimum......  Get 'em while they are hot.
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Post by: ricepig on November 11, 2017, 04:41:56 pm
Club seats in the new NEZ at Razorback Stadium will cost either $1,350 or $1,500 per seat per year.  4 seats = $5,400 to $6,000 per year .........for END ZONE seats.   Loge boxes with 4 seats for $14,000 per year, two year minimum......  Get 'em while they are hot.


63 out 70 Loge boxes have commitments, going fast.