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Title: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 08:09:48 pm
I heavily suspect Jeff Long's appearance today during the board meeting was as much about optics and punishment to Jeff Long as anything.  It's my belief that Steinmetz attitude was; You've put me in this position Jeff, it's your doing and you are going to be the face for all the photos and video surrounding this drama.  Folks in his position don't like this negative pub one bit and you can bet he hated every second of it.  The fact he was never called before the board says it all to me.

Steinmetz played this perfectly I believe.  There were a bunch of message sent to Long by this one measure alone.  Well done Chancellor!
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: PORKULATOR on November 09, 2017, 08:17:38 pm
So that's what you believe in. Ok
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 08:21:16 pm
So that's what you believe in. Ok
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅

Yep!
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Darrell Royal's Floating Flaming Fulminating Spectral Head on November 09, 2017, 08:21:39 pm
Welcome to the scotoma buffet here at Hogville.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 08:25:31 pm
I heavily suspect Jeff Long's appearance today during the board meeting was as much about optics and punishment to Jeff Long as anything.  It's my belief that Steinmetz attitude was; You've put me in this position Jeff, it's your doing and you are going to be the face for all the photos and video surrounding this drama.  Folks in his position don't like this negative pub one bit and you can bet he hated every second of it.  The fact he was never called before the board says it all to me.

Steinmetz played this perfectly I believe.  There were a bunch of message sent to Long by this one measure alone.  Well done Chancellor!

I could actually see that being close to true.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: hogginbama on November 09, 2017, 08:36:20 pm
And some media hack will run with the OP's opinion as the absolute gospel.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 08:41:56 pm
When I hit Google on my phone the first thing that pops up is a picture of Long with a headline that the Board "took no action" on him.  That has to embarrass and chap him...the very mention that the situation has gotten to the point that something could happen to him.

I won't be even slightly surprised if he starts looking around for another job.  Or maybe I am just hoping...
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Darrell Royal's Floating Flaming Fulminating Spectral Head on November 09, 2017, 08:44:28 pm
When I hit Google on my phone the first thing that pops up is a picture of Long with a headline that the Board "took no action" on him.  That has to embarrass and chap him...the very mention that the situation has gotten to the point that something could happen to him.

I won't be even slightly surprised if he starts looking around for another job.  Or maybe I am just hoping...

Probably.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Oklahawg on November 09, 2017, 08:46:37 pm
When I hit Google on my phone the first thing that pops up is a picture of Long with a headline that the Board "took no action" on him.  That has to embarrass and chap him...the very mention that the situation has gotten to the point that something could happen to him.

I won't be even slightly surprised if he starts looking around for another job.  Or maybe I am just hoping...

What would chap you is being summoned - indicates that you have to fight for your job, right? - but don't get to answer any questions.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: idochog on November 09, 2017, 09:02:39 pm
He's been put on notice
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: East Clintwood on November 09, 2017, 09:08:55 pm


I won't be even slightly surprised if he starts looking around for another job.  Or maybe I am just hoping...


I think he's been looking for awhile now but he can't find anybody that has as high opinion of him as he does himself.  No takers.

I hope he finds one soon, real soon.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 09:10:12 pm
What would chap you is being summoned - indicates that you have to fight for your job, right? - but don't get to answer any questions.

Yes, and now he doesn’t even know everything that was said by the board or the Chancellor.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: NuttinItUp on November 09, 2017, 09:12:37 pm
Is Steinmetz German?
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: hawg IQ on November 09, 2017, 09:20:06 pm
Chancellor needs the be careful he don't become the person in the cross hairs before it's over. Listen if you believe Jeff Longs gives a crap about football and winning, well he don't . He cares about j long. BB was the wrong man for Arkansas, most fans knew that . BP needed replaced with another BP type, not a big 10 type. SEC has premium coaches out the azz . You can't just Polly Anna through ? But mainly you gotta coach out you your back side to just compete. Not happening and it's on J long .
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 09, 2017, 09:21:32 pm
What would chap you is being summoned - indicates that you have to fight for your job, right? - but don't get to answer any questions.

Quite humbling don’t you think?  When you think you have power and those who really do have power order you to sit around and wait like a peon...that would have to make an impression one would think.  A clear message without one word being spoken.  I guess we will now see how well he listens.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 09:40:43 pm
Quite humbling don’t you think?  When you think you have power and those who really do have power order you to sit around and wait like a peon...that would have to make an impression one would think.  A clear message without one word being spoken.  I guess we will now see how well he listens.

Quite humbling indeed.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: island hog on November 09, 2017, 09:45:20 pm
Chancellor needs the be careful he don't become the person in the cross hairs before it's over. Listen if you believe Jeff Longs gives a crap about football and winning, well he don't . He cares about j long. BB was the wrong man for Arkansas, most fans knew that . BP needed replaced with another BP type, not a big 10 type. SEC has premium coaches out the azz . You can't just Polly Anna through ? But mainly you gotta coach out you your back side to just compete. Not happening and it's on J long .
"most fans knew this"?  Really?  Stretching there a little wouldn't you say.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on November 09, 2017, 09:48:48 pm
I heavily suspect Jeff Long's appearance today during the board meeting was as much about optics and punishment to Jeff Long as anything.  It's my belief that Steinmetz attitude was; You've put me in this position Jeff, it's your doing and you are going to be the face for all the photos and video surrounding this drama.  Folks in his position don't like this negative pub one bit and you can bet he hated every second of it.  The fact he was never called before the board says it all to me.

Steinmetz played this perfectly I believe.  There were a bunch of message sent to Long by this one measure alone.  Well done Chancellor!

Not a terrible take.  I personally believe a theory Bo posed today:  Steinmetz just wanted Jeff on standby for questions. 

Is it routing for the chancellor to be part of the BOT meetings? 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 09:50:30 pm
Ah, yes, the battle for street cred will be interesting to behold.  Some of the people who have been dead wrong all along will try to create fascinating scenarios in which they are really right and the people who have nailed it from the beginning are really wrong.  Should be fun.

I couldn't care less who is right or wrong as Long as this Long national nightmare is soon over.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: island hog on November 09, 2017, 09:52:35 pm
Maybe he was just there in case there were questions about the stadium expansion
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on November 09, 2017, 09:53:24 pm
Maybe he was just there in case there were questions about the stadium expansion

Most likely. 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Paul on November 09, 2017, 09:56:11 pm
Is Steinmetz German?
I have a friend with the same family name & he’s Jewish
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: ChicoHog on November 09, 2017, 09:56:34 pm
Chancellor needs the be careful he don't become the person in the cross hairs before it's over. Listen if you believe Jeff Longs gives a crap about football and winning, well he don't . He cares about j long. BB was the wrong man for Arkansas, most fans knew that . BP needed replaced with another BP type, not a big 10 type. SEC has premium coaches out the azz . You can't just Polly Anna through ? But mainly you gotta coach out you your back side to just compete. Not happening and it's on J long .
SEC used to have a bunch of premium coaches.  Now there are just a few; Saban, maybe Smart but too early to tell, Mullen is pretty good but that's about it.  Way too soon to tell on most of them.  Sumlin, BB, Malzahn, Odom, Oregron, etc., are all mediocre at best.  Of course UF, Mississippi and Tenner (pretty sure) are open as their coaches have failed either on or off the field. 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Count Hogula on November 09, 2017, 09:56:42 pm
Is Steinmetz German?

German / Jewish
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 09:57:43 pm
Not a terrible take.  I personally believe a theory Bo posed today:  Steinmetz just wanted Jeff on standby for questions. 

Is it routing for the chancellor to be part of the BOT meetings?

I don’t know about Steinmetz. I do believe the Executive Session is a little out of the norm.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Farmer Hogget on November 09, 2017, 10:16:56 pm
It's hilarious to hear the fake news you guys invent.  You hate Jeff Long and so you assume everyone else does so you make up crap that fits your narrative.  I'm certain that nothing you've speculated is actually the truth.  Not one of you knows a darn thing!
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: jkstock04 on November 09, 2017, 10:26:55 pm
Ah, yes, the battle for street cred will be interesting to behold.  Some of the people who have been dead wrong all along will try to create fascinating scenarios in which they are really right and the people who have nailed it from the beginning are really wrong.  Should be fun.

I couldn't care less who is right or wrong as Long as this Long national nightmare is soon over.
Interesting how this works. These same people have somehow managed to spin the Bielema saga completely around where they weren't actually wrong about Bielema...they just didn't turn out to be right in the end either.

And you were still wrong at the beginning...just because it turned out like you said doesn't mean anything. Just a crazy, lucky guess.

This is really the way some people's minds work.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 09, 2017, 10:27:40 pm
It's hilarious to hear the fake news you guys invent.  You hate Jeff Long and so you assume everyone else does so you make up crap that fits your narrative.  I'm certain that nothing you've speculated is actually the truth.  Not one of you knows a darn thing!
I honestly have no idea what was discussed in executive session.  But if they only go into executive session to discuss personnel issues, who do you think they were talking about?
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 10:28:05 pm
It's hilarious to hear the fake news you guys invent.  You hate Jeff Long and so you assume everyone else does so you make up crap that fits your narrative.  I'm certain that nothing you've speculated is actually the truth.  Not one of you knows a darn thing!

Speaking of fake news. I challenge you to find one instance of me saying I hate Jeff Long.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: BadHog on November 09, 2017, 10:31:25 pm
Hmmm.... interesting topic to post. I mean, about Long even being at the meeting.

Why was he there? Was he asked to be there? By the BOT? Did Steinmetz drag his ass down to LR? Answers to these questions would address much of the speculation on this board about Long and his future.

There is always an executive session for the twice a year meeting. Just doesn't usually last 3 hours.



Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: MaconBacon on November 09, 2017, 10:54:41 pm
This is an easy read. Its just a precursor of what the powers that be expect him to do at the end of the season. JL does the deed to save his own job. 25-30K plastic units shown on TV in the stands just locked the deal.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: moses_007 on November 09, 2017, 10:55:33 pm
It's hilarious to hear the fake news you guys invent.  You hate Jeff Long and so you assume everyone else does so you make up crap that fits your narrative.  I'm certain that nothing you've speculated is actually the truth.  Not one of you knows a darn thing!
Abolutely right.  No one on this board has a clue what's going to happen.  Nothing may happen. Both Long and Beilema could be back next season.  We just don't know.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: NuttinItUp on November 09, 2017, 10:55:57 pm
I have a friend with the same family name & he’s Jewish

Yikes! German and Jewish? That seems antithetical
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: BadHog on November 09, 2017, 10:56:36 pm
This is an easy read. Its just a precursor of what the powers that be expect him to do at the end of the season. JL does the deed to save his own job. 25-30K plastic units shown on TV in the stands just locked the deal.

I don't think there is a job to be saved any LONGer.

I anticipate some really LONG threads about this subject.

 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: MikePiazza on November 09, 2017, 11:19:20 pm
I saw Steinmetz in a restaurant in Fayetteville this evening, and he looked less than enthused. Rough day for the chancellor.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Con el Cerdos on November 09, 2017, 11:32:13 pm
Is Steinmetz German?

Ancestry.com says he could be German or Jewish (Ashkenazic).  One clue could be his and his two son's given names: Joseph, Jacob, and Adam.  All prominent Old Testament names.  Or not.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on November 09, 2017, 11:33:54 pm
Yikes! German and Jewish? That seems antithetical

eh
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: ShadowHawg on November 09, 2017, 11:34:54 pm
What would chap you is being summoned - indicates that you have to fight for your job, right? - but don't get to answer any questions.

Stadium expansion figures would be more likely.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Con el Cerdos on November 09, 2017, 11:38:45 pm
Hmmm.... interesting topic to post. I mean, about Long even being at the meeting.

Why was he there? Was he asked to be there? By the BOT? Did Steinmetz drag his ass down to LR? Answers to these questions would address much of the speculation on this board about Long and his future.

There is always an executive session for the twice a year meeting. Just doesn't usually last 3 hours.

Saw something on this board earlier that stated Long was there at the bidding of Chancellor Steimmetz.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Count Hogula on November 10, 2017, 12:29:49 am
Ancestry.com says he could be German or Jewish (Ashkenazic).  One clue could be his and his two son's given names: Joseph, Jacob, and Adam.  All prominent Old Testament names.  Or not.

Correct, Steinmetz is a German Surname. It is also Jewish.

Many Jewish people have German Surnames.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: sigpooie on November 10, 2017, 06:14:56 am
Problems with long are too many to list here, sweetheart. You sound like someone who would work for him, so I'll leave it at that.
But, taking the entire program from the top 20 didn't help...I unlike you, know a few peope who worked with him at pitt. They don't miss his budget padding azz at all. So you won't either.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Kevin on November 10, 2017, 06:20:35 am
long going & not going in the room, is worse than him going & going in the room.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: (notOM)Rebel123 on November 10, 2017, 06:49:16 am
long going & not going in the room, is worse than him going & going in the room.

^^^this
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: nwahogfan1 on November 10, 2017, 06:53:23 am
If Long wants to stay at Arkansas then he will gather info from boosters, fans and his superiors and do what is best for all.  Just because he is not on this board telling us his mind doesn't mean he isn't doing anything. Let's wait it out.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: TulsaHawg on November 10, 2017, 06:55:12 am
Hmmm.... interesting topic to post. I mean, about Long even being at the meeting.

Why was he there? Was he asked to be there? By the BOT? Did Steinmetz drag his ass down to LR? Answers to these questions would address much of the speculation on this board about Long and his future.

There is always an executive session for the twice a year meeting. Just doesn't usually last 3 hours.





The BOT meets more than twice per year.

There are five regularly scheduled meetings plus special meetings as needed.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: ricepig on November 10, 2017, 06:56:59 am
Not a terrible take.  I personally believe a theory Bo posed today:  Steinmetz just wanted Jeff on standby for questions. 

Is it routing for the chancellor to be part of the BOT meetings? 
long going & not going in the room, is worse than him going & going in the room.

Not necessarily, it depends on who asked him to come to the meeting. If he was there at Steinmetz request, then not really, if the Board asked him to be there, then he would have been on the agenda. As has been explained numerous times, the Board deals with Bobbitt and the various Chancellors, not with their employees,  unless it's a personnel issue and if any action is taken, it must be done in a public vote.

If you are alluding to the public perception of him being there, and just cooling his heels, then yeah, but that's no different than what is going on the message boards and airwaves these days.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Bacons Rebellion on November 10, 2017, 06:57:45 am
Is Steinmetz German?

No. Prussian.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 10, 2017, 07:04:19 am
http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/nov/10/ua-board-meets-long-sits-outside/

"President Bobbitt said “anytime we go into executive session, it’s almost always about job performance.” When asked whether the latter session was about Steinmetz’s job performance, he said, “Yeah, anytime I get holed in there, it’s about mine, and anytime anyone else does, you know, you can read what the board states as the rationale of going into executive session.”
Executive sessions are closed to the public and are for consideration of employment, appointment, promotion, demotion, disciplining or resignation of public officers or employees, according to state law.
Bobbitt would not comment further."

Meanwhile Jeff Long is reading the same page in his notebook for four hours and checking text messages while photos are being snapped and video's taken.  He knows the executive sessions deal primarily with employment issues and his boss is having to answer tough questions from the board.

It's doubtful the session was called to discuss a promotion .
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Dark Helmet Hog on November 10, 2017, 07:16:32 am
It's always possible BOT members requested he be on standby.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: hawgfan4life on November 10, 2017, 07:29:13 am
Every hire Long made was considered a good hire at the time by an overwhelming majority.  He is highly respected for his courage and professionalism with the Petrino actions and respected for his work on the selection committee.  It is not his job to win football games.  BB was a homerun hire in giant proportions around the nation when it occurred.  Winning was/is BB’s job.  Long knows what needs to occur.  Too much is being made about him. 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: longtimeHogfan on November 10, 2017, 07:39:20 am
.....I won't be even slightly surprised if he starts looking around for another job. 

Do AD's have agents or do they just agree to $'s and terms and sign?  I'd be very surprised if CBB's agent and JL weren't both looking ahead and covering various parts of their anatomy. 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 10, 2017, 07:45:31 am
Every hire Long made was considered a good hire at the time by an overwhelming majority.  He is highly respected for his courage and professionalism with the Petrino actions and respected for his work on the selection committee.  It is not his job to win football games.  BB was a homerun hire in giant proportions around the nation when it occurred.  Winning was/is BB’s job.  Long knows what needs to occur.  Too much is being made about him.

You don't think Long is responsible for his teams, especially football, under his leadership being competitive and winning games?  Then why do AD's across the nation constantly lose their job because their football teams were unsuccessful? 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: tusked on November 10, 2017, 07:48:33 am

I can't believe some of you don't see what the original OP said.

He was sat outside that meeting to embarrass him and send a message.  He will not be fired but he will be looking for a new job.  BB is gone, thank god.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: DeltaBoy on November 10, 2017, 09:01:51 am
Pork said change is coming and we will see if I believe by Jan 1, 2018
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: island hog on November 10, 2017, 09:07:49 am
I can't believe some of you don't see what the original OP said.

He was sat outside that meeting to embarrass him and send a message.  He will not be fired but he will be looking for a new job.  BB is gone, thank god.
What advantage or reason would the BOT or Chancellor have for wanting to "embarrass" Long?  I'd surmise he was there to be available for any questions that arose from the stadium expansion. 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Dominicanhog on November 10, 2017, 09:20:11 am
I saw Steinmetz in a restaurant in Fayetteville this evening, and he looked less than enthused. Rough day for the chancellor.

I saw Mike Piazza in the Miami airport a few days back.. he looked great, looked like he could play tomorrow.. and now,  back to your regularly scheduled program...
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: huntindoc on November 10, 2017, 09:23:22 am
I'd surmise he was there to be available for any questions that arose from the stadium expansion. 

The problems with that assumption are a) Bobbitt's quote above which pretty plainly says the 3+ hour executive session was about the chancellor's job performance  b)nothing on the agenda about the stadium expansion.     

You could be right but I suspect at least part of the reason he was there was to be able to answer questions about his job performance if the chancellor needed him to.  I do agree it had nothing to do with an intent to embarrass Jeff Long. Hopefully the BOT or the chancellor aren't as petty as that.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 10, 2017, 09:30:52 am
The problems with that assumption are a) Bobbitt's quote above which pretty plainly says the 3+ hour executive session was about the chancellor's job performance  b)nothing on the agenda about the stadium expansion.     

You could be right but I suspect at least part of the reason he was there was to be able to answer questions about his job performance if the chancellor needed him to.  I do agree it had nothing to do with an intent to embarrass Jeff Long. Hopefully the BOT or the chancellor aren't as petty as that.

If you think making one of your subordinates come out in public and take the heat with you when you're required to meet before the board on what are personnel issues is petty, then I certainly disagree with you.  It's Jeff Long's business responsibilities that required the Chancellor to be there in the first place. 
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: tusked on November 10, 2017, 09:38:32 am
What advantage or reason would the BOT or Chancellor have for wanting to "embarrass" Long?  I'd surmise he was there to be available for any questions that arose from the stadium expansion. 

Are you following the program?  Did you see the stadium in the second half of the Auburn game and the CC game.

Fans and boosters are NOT HAPPY.  Would you want to be on the end of all the emails, phone calls and text messages like the BOT?

It was the BOT telling the fans they hear them and they are initiating changes.  There will be a new coach next season and JL will probably not be on the hill.  I'd say the chance of BB not being around at 100% and JL at 75%.

It was the BOT telling the fans that.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 11, 2017, 08:47:47 am
Are you following the program?  Did you see the stadium in the second half of the Auburn game and the CC game.

Fans and boosters are NOT HAPPY.  Would you want to be on the end of all the emails, phone calls and text messages like the BOT?

It was the BOT telling the fans they hear them and they are initiating changes.  There will be a new coach next season and JL will probably not be on the hill.  I'd say the chance of BB not being around at 100% and JL at 75%.

It was the BOT telling the fans that.

I like your odds.  I hope they turn out to be 100% on both parts.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on November 11, 2017, 08:53:27 am
Is Steinmetz German?

 Yiddish...
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Jimbob111 on November 11, 2017, 09:10:43 am
"most fans knew this"?  Really?  Stretching there a little wouldn't you say.


I knew it and I said as much. A lot of us voiced extreme reservations and then attempted to get on board because Bielema talks a good game. He just can't back it up. But "we" knew it was a bad hire, I'm sorry you didn't.  Watch a little more football, you'll get there. It just takes a little time and a modicum of intelligence.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Jimbob111 on November 11, 2017, 09:14:27 am
I thought it was ironic that on 4th and Long this morning he was discussing women's athletics and mentioned their coach changing his philosophy to more of a defensive outlook because of key injuries to starters.

Good coaches adapt to changes and injuries. Bad coaches stand on the sideline looking confused and mouthbreath.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Hogwild on November 11, 2017, 09:19:13 am
Speaking of fake news. I challenge you to find one instance of me saying I hate Jeff Long.


That was easy- ;D

I hate Jeff Long.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Youngsta71701 on November 11, 2017, 09:48:29 am
To me it's plain and simple. Bret has to go. And if Long's not willing to let him go then the both of them have to go.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Athog on November 11, 2017, 09:57:26 am
So that's what you believe in. Ok
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅

Now playing in your mind..lol!
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 11, 2017, 09:59:31 am

That was easy- ;D

That was funny!
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: AP85 on November 11, 2017, 10:06:14 am
So that's what you believe in. Ok
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅

Hahaha. Some folks huh?
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Grunt on November 11, 2017, 10:11:17 am
When I hit Google on my phone the first thing that pops up is a picture of Long with a headline that the Board "took no action" on him.  That has to embarrass and chap him...the very mention that the situation has gotten to the point that something could happen to him.

I won't be even slightly surprised if he starts looking around for another job.  Or maybe I am just hoping...
Very good point.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: island hog on November 11, 2017, 10:18:56 am
I knew it and I said as much. A lot of us voiced extreme reservations and then attempted to get on board because Bielema talks a good game. He just can't back it up. But "we" knew it was a bad hire, I'm sorry you didn't.  Watch a little more football, you'll get there. It just takes a little time and a modicum of intelligence.
listen punk, I've watched more and been closely associated with all levels of football than most on this board.., my "intelligence" is plenty.  It's easy to have 20/20 views on things that do t turn out
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: bwbcpa on November 11, 2017, 10:22:44 am
Quite humbling don’t you think?  When you think you have power and those who really do have power order you to sit around and wait like a peon...that would have to make an impression one would think.  A clear message without one word being spoken.  I guess we will now see how well he listens.

Having served on several boards, I can tell you this is a classic " shot across the bow".
When you deal with Personnel issues you have to sidestep a myriad of legalities, and this is one way of putting someone on notice without actually having to do anything. It doesn't mean however that Jeff Long was the subject, it could be that it was one of his subordinates. Lots of speculation with this one...
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Mike Irwin on November 11, 2017, 10:43:52 am
I was told that Long was never supposed to be at the meeting. Steinmetz brought him along without checking and the BOT was not happy about it. The BOT does not deal directly with coaches or ADs. Those men deal with the chancellor. If they have a problem with the head coach or AD  and want something passed along they tell Steinmetz and he tells them. The AD and head coach work for the chancellor and the chancellor answers to the BOT.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: thebignasty on November 11, 2017, 10:45:52 am
I was told that Long was never supposed to be at the meeting. Steinmetz brought him along without checking and the BOT was not happy about it. The BOT does not deal directly with coaches or ADs. Those men deal with the chancellor. If they have a problem with the head coach or AD  and want something passed along they tell Steinmetz and he tells them. The AD and head coach work for the chancellor and the chancellor answers to the BOT.

love it
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: Youngsta71701 on November 11, 2017, 10:45:59 am
I was told that Long was never supposed to be at the meeting. Steinmetz brought him along without checking and the BOT was not happy about it. The BOT does not deal directly with coaches or ADs. Those men deal with the chancellor. If they have a problem with the head coach or AD  and want something passed along they tell Steinmetz and he tells them. The AD and head coach work for him.
So does Steinmetz work for the BOT? Never mind, you added that part as I was finishing my question. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Chancellor Steinmetz Message To Jeff Long
Post by: The NewEra on November 11, 2017, 10:46:06 am
I was told that Long was never supposed to be at the meeting. Steinmetz brought him along without checking and the BOT was not happy about it. The BOT does not deal directly with coaches or ADs. Those men deal with the chancellor. If they have a problem with the head coach or AD  and want something passed along they tell Steinmetz and he tells them. The AD and head coach work for him.

Steinmetz didn't want to be in front of all those cameras alone.