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Title: JL in executive session now
Post by: ballz2thewall on November 09, 2017, 09:49:42 am
that's what i'm told......
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Lanny on November 09, 2017, 09:50:28 am
Confirmed
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 09:50:57 am
P/L's are great...keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 09:51:32 am
Is he in with them, or sitting outside cooling his heels like we just saw in that pic linked in another thread?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Drop the Mike on November 09, 2017, 09:51:39 am
Hogsanity and razorbackers are sweating bullets!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogFoo on November 09, 2017, 09:52:38 am
Yeah, my buddy just told me he gone. So we'll see. Well actually he said it about 25mins ago, I just saw the text. So, we'll see what gonna happen. I'm sure JL trying to throw whoever he can under the bus as this point.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 09:53:25 am
Hogsanity and razorbackers are sweating bullets!


Actually I am quite comfortable.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: woodhog14 on November 09, 2017, 09:53:27 am
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928639645587517442
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 09:54:00 am
Yeah, my buddy just told me he gone. So we'll see. Well actually he said it about 25mins ago, I just saw the text. So, we'll see what gonna happen. I'm sure JL trying to throw whoever he can under the bus as this point.

Who's your buddy?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Arkansas Traveler on November 09, 2017, 09:54:04 am
This could be a very interesting day.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 09:54:08 am
You know it’s got to be galling to Jeffricus Augustus Long to be summoned before the Roman Sen...er BOT before God and everybody for interrogation like a mere peon.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 09, 2017, 09:55:20 am
It...just...got...interesting!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Tejano Jawg on November 09, 2017, 09:58:43 am
I was going to ask someone to define "executive session"…but that will probably be explained as the day goes on.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 09:59:15 am

Why does it have to come to this.  why can't the athletic department, president and BOT all pull in the same direction?

This is no better than the GOBN days.  Why can't winning be important.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hog_Swanson on November 09, 2017, 09:59:53 am
I love threads like this.  They just keep me on the edge of my seat.  Will they?  Won't they?  Oh my....
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoggyCat on November 09, 2017, 10:00:27 am
Hogsanity and razorbackers are sweating bullets!

Don't forget ricepig.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Grizzlyfan on November 09, 2017, 10:00:54 am
Why does it have to come to this.  why can't the athletic department, president and BOT all pull in the same direction?

This is no better than the GOBN days.  Why can't winning be important.
How do you know they aren't all pulling in the same direction?  Because Jeff Long, the university president, and BOT members don't get on Hogville and complain like the rest of us?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ballz2thewall on November 09, 2017, 10:01:40 am
I was going to ask someone to define "executive session"…but that will probably be explained as the day goes on.

in this context it means that there is an "employee" issue being brought to the board. the issue can be anything. discussion of employee issues can be held in private, called "executive session".

this description is broad, but covers most cases.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 10:02:48 am
I was going to ask someone to define "executive session"…but that will probably be explained as the day goes on.

It was defined in another thread, as was the fact that the BOT has no direct say in athletics. Basically they go into executive session to talk about anything they do not want to do publicly. Most reports have JL there to talk about the expansion project. Now, what indirect power the BOT has, that is up for debate.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 10:03:07 am
How do you know they aren't all pulling in the same direction?  Because Jeff Long, the university president, and BOT members don't get on Hogville and complain like the rest of us?

Because its PAINFULLY obvious that the program is losing at a historic rate.  The proof is what you see on the field, in the stands and in the record book.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:05:15 am
Because its PAINFULLY obvious that the program is losing at a historic rate.  The proof is what you see on the field, in the stands and in the record book.
Actually, from 1990-1997, the Almighty Frank oversaw the historic rate you refer.  Carry on.

5 of the 8 seasons with a losing record.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawg1221 on November 09, 2017, 10:05:52 am
I love threads like this.  They just keep me on the edge of my seat.  Will they?  Won't they?  Oh my....

I do too! Even if most of what's said isn't true, it's exciting!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Wildhog on November 09, 2017, 10:06:51 am
Last few weeks of the season.  Things should start getting interesting soon. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogFoo on November 09, 2017, 10:08:37 am
Well Jeff says we aren't a win at all costs school. Yet that report came out yesterday wasn't it and then we were at the bottom was it in academic grad etc. So we aren't even that now. So what are we?  That last homecoming game was probably the smallest crowd since, wow, I can't even recall.  I think even the worst crowds during Ford's era were better than that on homecoming.  So, fans have spoken loud and clear.   Heck, I had heard Jeff was in jeopardy since aTm game after a convo he had with one of our more highly publicized fans/ex hog.  Heard he was pretty much done at that point.  Then Long basically let's it out about the buyout not being so big in an effort to try to save his job.  He was told to shut up as well on Twitter and that's why he's not been on.  Cuz he used to be all over on Twitter. Then it stopped. Well there's your reason cuz he was told too.  Anyways. That's some of what I've heard.  We'll see what's about to happen. I just look forward to winning again, and my personal vote for next coach is Norvell. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 10:11:30 am
Last few weeks of the season.  Things should start getting interesting soon. 

Hopefully almost free from Bret.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Grizzlyfan on November 09, 2017, 10:11:54 am
Because its PAINFULLY obvious that the program is losing at a historic rate.  The proof is what you see on the field, in the stands and in the record book.
But why do you say they aren't all on the same page in correcting those issues?  The only thing they could do would be 1) fire Bielema now. 2) start making inflammatory public statements about Bielema.  Both of those things are stupid.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hawginj on November 09, 2017, 10:13:58 am
Well Jeff says we aren't a win at all costs school. Yet that report came out yesterday wasn't it and then we were at the bottom was it in academic grad etc. So we aren't even that now. So what are we?  That last homecoming game was probably the smallest crowd since, wow, I can't even recall.  I think even the worst crowds during Ford's era were better than that on homecoming.  So, fans have spoken loud and clear.   Heck, I had heard Jeff was in jeopardy since aTm game after a convo he had with one of our more highly publicized fans/ex hog.  Heard he was pretty much done at that point.  Then Long basically let's it out about the buyout not being so big in an effort to try to save his job.  He was told to shut up as well on Twitter and that's why he's not been on.  Cuz he used to be all over on Twitter. Then it stopped. Well there's your reason cuz he was told too.  Anyways. That's some of what I've heard.  We'll see what's about to happen. I just look forward to winning again, and my personal vote for next coach is Norvell.
from your lips to whoever is doing the hiring ears!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Pathological on November 09, 2017, 10:15:28 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigNation on November 09, 2017, 10:15:47 am
Yeah, my buddy just told me he gone. So we'll see. Well actually he said it about 25mins ago, I just saw the text. So, we'll see what gonna happen. I'm sure JL trying to throw whoever he can under the bus as this point.

Pleas Lord, please let this be true.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 10:16:59 am
Don't forget ricepig.

Lol, not me, unlike you, I don't get hung up on AD's and coaches, that's somebody else's department to choose.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoggyCat on November 09, 2017, 10:17:16 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

No it won't. He'll b exposed for the fraud that he is.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Wildhog on November 09, 2017, 10:17:19 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

Honestly, I don't think it'll be that big of a deal.  AD's at mid-tier schools don't really move the needle, from a national perspective.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 10:17:39 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

Not if the story is about numbers fudging related to the stadium expansion.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Marshfieldhog on November 09, 2017, 10:17:45 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

No way, media doesn’t give a crap about AD’s. Can you even name 5 of them? I can’t.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 10:17:57 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.


what's the worst thing about prison, prison Mike?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 10:18:01 am

Actually I am quite comfortable.

Yeah, I don't know why I would be sweating bullets.

Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: woodrow hog call on November 09, 2017, 10:20:55 am
It was defined in another thread, as was the fact that the BOT has no direct say in athletics. Basically they go into executive session to talk about anything they do not want to do publicly. Most reports have JL there to talk about the expansion project. Now, what indirect power the BOT has, that is up for debate.


If is done like a school board, then it is only to be used for the discussion about and with personnel. Any vote that takes place would have to be done in open session, and no member is allowed to speak of what was discussed in executive session.

They can certainly get their point across without anything being voted on, but it takes an actual open session vote to have a motion passed.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 10:21:17 am
Not if the story is about numbers fudging related to the stadium expansion.
Well, this is Scott Varady's version to Brantley.

"The Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project is on schedule, and no renovations to the existing suites are planned until after the end of the 2017 football season as has been communicated to suite holders. Those renovations were always scheduled to begin after the conclusion of the 2017 home football schedule and nothing has changed.

As I am sure you have heard, we are planning to share information with existing suite holders regarding the specific renovations and upgrades for each suite. As soon as we receive the final construction and other applicable information, we will communicate with the suite holders. We hope to receive that information soon.

As for the overall Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project, I can share the following information with you.

We have gift agreements for all 32 suites in the North End Zone.

In total, all 38 new suites in the project have gift commitments.

Out of 70 new Loge Boxes in the North End Zone, we have gift commitments for 63 out of 70 Loge Boxes — thus leaving seven (7) available Loge Boxes at this time.

With credit to our generous Razorback Foundation members and fans, we have raised $41.223 million towards the renovation and expansion project to date. Given that, we have the resources to assist the Athletic Department in meeting all financial obligations towards the project. "
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigNation on November 09, 2017, 10:22:20 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

I don't really think the national media will notice, or care.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: snoblind on November 09, 2017, 10:22:53 am
Not if the story is about numbers fudging related to the stadium expansion.

Looks like someone else heard what I've heard.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 10:23:28 am

What to hell is going on with the board today?  Do you guys get paid by JL or are you the same guy with multiple logins.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Wildhog on November 09, 2017, 10:23:39 am
Yeah, I don't know why I would be sweating bullets.



Because your carpet baggin' buddy is about to get the axe.

Did I do that right? 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Marshfieldhog on November 09, 2017, 10:23:39 am
Well, this is Scott Varady's version to Brantley.

The Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project is on schedule, and no renovations to the existing suites are planned until after the end of the 2017 football season as has been communicated to suite holders. Those renovations were always scheduled to begin after the conclusion of the 2017 home football schedule and nothing has changed.

As I am sure you have heard, we are planning to share information with existing suite holders regarding the specific renovations and upgrades for each suite. As soon as we receive the final construction and other applicable information, we will communicate with the suite holders. We hope to receive that information soon.

As for the overall Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project, I can share the following information with you.

We have gift agreements for all 32 suites in the North End Zone.

In total, all 38 new suites in the project have gift commitments.

Out of 70 new Loge Boxes in the North End Zone, we have gift commitments for 63 out of 70 Loge Boxes — thus leaving seven (7) available Loge Boxes at this time.

With credit to our generous Razorback Foundation members and fans, we have raised $41.223 million towards the renovation and expansion project to date. Given that, we have the resources to assist the Athletic Department in meeting all financial obligations towards the project.

You do know that they have to back fill the seats these fans vacated. I doubt they were in the cheap sections. More involved than selling the new seats
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:23:43 am
Well, this is Scott Varady's version to Brantley.

The Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project is on schedule, and no renovations to the existing suites are planned until after the end of the 2017 football season as has been communicated to suite holders. Those renovations were always scheduled to begin after the conclusion of the 2017 home football schedule and nothing has changed.

As I am sure you have heard, we are planning to share information with existing suite holders regarding the specific renovations and upgrades for each suite. As soon as we receive the final construction and other applicable information, we will communicate with the suite holders. We hope to receive that information soon.

As for the overall Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project, I can share the following information with you.

We have gift agreements for all 32 suites in the North End Zone.

In total, all 38 new suites in the project have gift commitments.

Out of 70 new Loge Boxes in the North End Zone, we have gift commitments for 63 out of 70 Loge Boxes — thus leaving seven (7) available Loge Boxes at this time.

With credit to our generous Razorback Foundation members and fans, we have raised $41.223 million towards the renovation and expansion project to date. Given that, we have the resources to assist the Athletic Department in meeting all financial obligations towards the project.
IT IS ALL A LIE!

All Glory unto the Almighty Frank.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hogarusa on November 09, 2017, 10:23:58 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

Would barely be a blip on the national radar. The story would be that the end of Bielema at Arkansas is now guaranteed and soon
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:24:47 am
What to hell is going on with the board today?  Do you guys get paid by JL or are you the same guy with multiple logins.
Nope.

Just have an opposing, educated view on the situation.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 10:25:13 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.


wow just wow.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 10:25:24 am
This could be a very interesting day.

I can't bear to get my hopes up.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 10:25:49 am
You do know that they have to back fill the seats these fans vacated. I doubt they were in the cheap sections. More involved than selling the new seats

Hmm.....$1500-$4300/yr vs $85-$850, seems like a good trade to me.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 10:25:56 am
Nope.

Just have an opposing, educated, view on the situation.

so you're the same guy since there's such limited education on the board.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 10:26:19 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

It's been pretty dark from my perspective for a few years now.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoggyCat on November 09, 2017, 10:26:26 am
Well, this is Scott Varady's version to Brantley.

"The Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project is on schedule, and no renovations to the existing suites are planned until after the end of the 2017 football season as has been communicated to suite holders. Those renovations were always scheduled to begin after the conclusion of the 2017 home football schedule and nothing has changed.

As I am sure you have heard, we are planning to share information with existing suite holders regarding the specific renovations and upgrades for each suite. As soon as we receive the final construction and other applicable information, we will communicate with the suite holders. We hope to receive that information soon.

As for the overall Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project, I can share the following information with you.

We have gift agreements for all 32 suites in the North End Zone.

In total, all 38 new suites in the project have gift commitments.

Out of 70 new Loge Boxes in the North End Zone, we have gift commitments for 63 out of 70 Loge Boxes — thus leaving seven (7) available Loge Boxes at this time.

With credit to our generous Razorback Foundation members and fans, we have raised $41.223 million towards the renovation and expansion project to date. Given that, we have the resources to assist the Athletic Department in meeting all financial obligations towards the project. "

What's the date on this? That's the number fudging mentioned. It's actually more like 7 suites are committed.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 10:26:38 am
Because your carpet baggin' buddy is about to get the axe.

Did I do that right?

I guess? It's crazy to me that I have to hate everyone personally and assume the worst about them as humans in order to be a Hog fan I guess.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Marshfieldhog on November 09, 2017, 10:27:03 am
Hmm.....$1500-$4300/yr vs $85-$850, seems like a good trade to me.

I think your boy is about to get his wings clipped or plum shot off
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:27:24 am
so you're the same guy since there's such limited education on the board.
Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Wildhog on November 09, 2017, 10:28:18 am
I guess? It's crazy to me that I have to hate everyone personally and assume the worst about them as humans in order to be a Hog fan I guess.

Football.  Politics.  Doesn't matter.  If you disagree with someone, you have to hate them.  Hate everything about them.  Hate everyone that doesn't hate them.  Oppose everything they say or do.  Hate. Hate. Hate.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 10:28:36 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

This is pure fantasy, straight drama queen stuff.  No one will care, and anyone who bothers to even look into it will say, "Arkansas has gone a miserable 13-32 in SEC play since 2011, it's once dominant men's basketball team has won two NCAA tournament games during Long's ten years on the job, and the crowd at last Saturday's homecoming game was embarrassingly small."
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Punisher501 on November 09, 2017, 10:28:49 am

what's the worst thing about prison, prison Mike?

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Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 09, 2017, 10:30:51 am
 Trey Schaap‏ @trey1037TheBuzz 6m6 minutes ago

The board has taken a break to grab refreshments and are returning to executive session. Jeff Long and Chancellor Steinmetz have been asked to join the @UofA_System Board in ES.
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Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PharmacistHog on November 09, 2017, 10:31:10 am
Hogsanity and razorbackers are sweating bullets!

I don't care for this kind of crap. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PharmacistHog on November 09, 2017, 10:32:50 am
Because your carpet baggin' buddy is about to get the axe.

Did I do that right? 

We keep having some of these folks attacking others for no reason I'm gonna show them an axe. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 10:33:02 am


Well I'll say based on the cult on the board today.  The #uncommon crowd is going to go out chanting.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogmolar on November 09, 2017, 10:33:45 am
As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Marshfieldhog on November 09, 2017, 10:33:47 am
Trey Schaap‏ @trey1037TheBuzz 6m6 minutes ago

The board has taken a break to grab refreshments and are returning to executive session. Jeff Long and Chancellor Steinmetz have been asked to join the @UofA_System Board in ES.
0 replies 5 retweets 2 likes

Cut out the breaks and let’s get down to business.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Karma on November 09, 2017, 10:33:52 am
OP was wrong. Long just went back. According to twitter.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 10:35:01 am
As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work. 

So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Cylinder on November 09, 2017, 10:35:25 am
I was going to ask someone to define "executive session"…but that will probably be explained as the day goes on.

Generally, an executive session is a private part of a public meeting or meeting of a public body. It can be used to discuss things like strategies or personnel matters without a public record being generated -- such as media coverage, transcripts, minutes, etc....

In this case, if the board recommends some action that requires a vote, the board will reconvene for a public vote.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: snoblind on November 09, 2017, 10:35:50 am
Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.


Why do you keep bringing up Frank?  He hasn't been AD for over 10 years.  This isn't about him. 

If you hadn't joined 2 months ago (interesting timing, BTW) you would know that many of the folks wanting a change now wanted a change then.  Heck, I've posted many times over the years on this board that he should have retired back in the early to mid 90's.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 10:36:49 am
So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.

I think he is just saying the BOT is not directly going to fire BB or JL as that is not normally their job.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:37:20 am

Why do you keep bringing up Frank?  He hasn't been AD for over 10 years.  This isn't about him. 

If you hadn't joined 2 months ago (interesting timing, BTW) you would know that many of the folks wanting a change now wanted a change then.  Heck, I've posted many times over the years on this board that he should have retired back in the early to mid 90's.
Super interesting.

I guess joining a board automatically makes you a mole?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hogsenburg on November 09, 2017, 10:38:09 am
So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.
Yes
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 10:38:17 am
Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.

Really?  Frank oversaw a worse stretch as AD?  Because I could have sworn the men's basketball team was in the Final Four three times during that time, with one national championship and one other championship game appearance.  I realize that is no match for opening round wins over Wofford and Seton Hall...
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:39:54 am
Really?  Frank oversaw a worse stretch as AD?  Because I could have sworn the men's basketball team was in the Final Four three times during that time, with one national championship and one other championship game appearance.  I realize that is no match for opening round wins over Wofford and Seton Hall...
In football?

Yes. In question.

This is all about football.

Educate yourself.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 10:40:31 am
Super interesting.

I guess joining a board automatically makes you a mole?

It is just odd on a massage board that has been around for 15+ years, to see so many "new" members show up all around the same time. Just like i find it odd so many posters created accounts in 2006 or 2010, posted like 3 times, have not posted in years and just now decide is a good time to start posting. That is not how most people that take the time to join message boards behave. They may not post as often as some, but they usually do not go more than a few days, much less weeks months or years without posting.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: snoblind on November 09, 2017, 10:40:39 am
Super interesting.

I guess joining a board automatically makes you a mole?

Answer the question
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:42:02 am
It is just odd on a massage board that has been around for 15+ years, to see so many "new" members show up all around the same time. Just like i find it odd so many posters created accounts in 2006 or 2010, posted like 3 times, have not posted in years and just now decide is a good time to start posting. That is not how most people that take the time to join message boards behave. They may not post as often as some, but they usually do not go more than a few days, much less weeks months or years without posting.
Thank you for the education on How message boards work.

I took notes and I am ready for the exam!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 10:42:33 am
I think your boy is about to get his wings clipped or plum shot off

My boys are a financial analyst in Chicago and a sophomore in high school, lol.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:42:54 am
Answer the question
So guilty.

What’s my punishment? Don’t sent me to North Korea. Please!! Have mercy!!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 10:42:55 am
In football?

Yes. In question.

This is all about football.

Educate yourself.

It's all about football?  If that is the case I'm not sure why Long bothered to show up.  13-32 in SEC play over the last six years is 13th in a 14 team conference.  Who tries to justify his $1 million per year salary with "credentials" like that?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Marshfieldhog on November 09, 2017, 10:43:50 am
My boys are a financial analyst in Chicago and a sophomore in high school, lol.

Lol. Fair enough
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 10:44:32 am
What's the date on this? That's the number fudging mentioned. It's actually more like 7 suites are committed.

Link?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogmolar on November 09, 2017, 10:44:59 am
So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.
Not saying that at all.  Just saying that for those who think JL will walk out of there without a job will probably be disappointed.  He may very well lose his job but more than likely won't be announced or done today.  Same goes with CBB, he may lose his job but it will be announced by JL not the BOT.  Only time that you see the Chancellor or BOT involved in a firing of a coach is usually do to a non performance based firing (Investigations, scandals, etc) in which the school needs public relations.  (See Penn State, Baylor)   
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 10:45:04 am
I think he is just saying the BOT is not directly going to fire BB or JL as that is not normally their job.

They can however, strongly recommend to the Chancellor that he fire Long.

They can also terminate the Chancellor if he refuses to comply.

I don't see the latter of the 2 happening.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 10:45:38 am
It's all about football?  If that is the case I'm not sure why Long bothered to show up.  13-32 in SEC play over the last six years is 13th in a 14 team conference.  Who tries to justify his $1 million per year salary with "credentials" like that?

Even though I know this is wasted on you, because your world begins and ends with guhd ole suhthun fuhbahl, but Longs salary is based on a lot more than football. He is the athletic director not the football director.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:46:16 am
They can however, strongly recommend to the Chancellor that he fire Long.

They can also terminate the Chancellor if he refuses to comply.

I don't see the latter of the 2 happening.
Yes, the BOT will fire the Chancellor after they struggled to find one last time.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 10:46:17 am


So for the #uncommon crowd are you here to prop up just JL or JL and BB?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 10:47:06 am
Not saying that at all.  Just saying that for those who think JL will walk out of there without a job will probably be disappointed.  He may very well lose his job but more than likely won't be announced or done today.  Same goes with CBB, he may lose his job but it will be announced by JL not the BOT.  Only time that you see the Chancellor or BOT involved in a firing of a coach is usually do to a non performance based firing (Investigations, scandals, etc) in which the school needs public relations.  (See Penn State, Baylor)   

I would submit that a very public summoning for explanations regarding a major project and its expenditures could be reason to believe that there might be some non performance issues. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 10:47:58 am
It is just odd on a massage board that has been around for 15+ years, to see so many "new" members show up all around the same time. Just like i find it odd so many posters created accounts in 2006 or 2010, posted like 3 times, have not posted in years and just now decide is a good time to start posting. That is not how most people that take the time to join message boards behave. They may not post as often as some, but they usually do not go more than a few days, much less weeks months or years without posting.

IP address for all these new accounts is in Russia iyam
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 10:48:01 am
Yes, the BOT will fire the Chancellor after they struggled to find one last time.

Read it again. I said they most likely WOULDN'T terminate the Chancellor.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 10:48:08 am
Even though I know this is wasted on you, because your world begins and ends with guhd ole suhthun fuhbahl, but Longs salary is based on a lot more than football. He is the athletic director not the football director.

Why don't you read the post I was responding to and quoted in my own.  I'm not the one who originally said it is all about football, Jeff's wife did.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 09, 2017, 10:49:09 am
Actually, from 1990-1997, the Almighty Frank oversaw the historic rate you refer.  Carry on.

5 of the 8 seasons with a losing record.

You mean, the period of time where our program left the University of Texas Conference...err...SWC and has the entire State, previously our most fertile recruiting ground turn against us?  You mean that period of time where, after losing our fertile recruiting ground we went from playing two tough games a year to playing at least four to six tough games a year?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 10:49:09 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

I agree.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: woodhog14 on November 09, 2017, 10:50:27 am
Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.
At least during that stretch there was a Western Divison championship and an SECCG appearance. That's why what we are going through now is worse.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GoPigs69 on November 09, 2017, 10:50:41 am
As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work. 

Much of what you say is definitely true - but why would the board go into executive session just to get an update on the stadium expansion? I thought executive sessions were only allowed for "personnel" issues / discussion.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:50:57 am
You mean, the period of time where our program left the University of Texas Conference...err...SWC and has the entire State, previously our most fertile recruiting ground turn against us?  You mean that period of time where, after losing our fertile recruiting ground we went from playing two tough games a year to playing at least four to six tough games a year?
Spin zone.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoggyCat on November 09, 2017, 10:51:41 am
As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work.

And what if BOT fires said chancellor??

And what if they invoke "vested interest"??
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 10:51:53 am
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/5b475198d399379e64f7101992d58d54/tenor.gif?itemid=3442902)



You win hogville
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WoooPigBrewie on November 09, 2017, 10:51:56 am
Read it again. I said they most likely WOULDN'T terminate the Chancellor.
So when he doesn't fire Jeff, what do they do??
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 09, 2017, 10:52:31 am
Read this.

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928664377414299648
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Marshfieldhog on November 09, 2017, 10:53:01 am
Spin zone.

Actually he nailed it. Broyles did screw up hiring Crowe. That was dumb
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DiamondHogFan on November 09, 2017, 10:53:16 am
Trey Schaap‏ @trey1037TheBuzz 6m6 minutes ago

The board has taken a break to grab refreshments and are returning to executive session. Jeff Long and Chancellor Steinmetz have been asked to join the @UofA_System Board in ES.
0 replies 5 retweets 2 likes
Could it be that the BOT is recommending what Long and Steinmetz should do with Bielema and the meeting has nothing to do with Long's employment?  Would this even be the time or place to do that? 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Inhogswetrust on November 09, 2017, 10:53:46 am
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928639645587517442

Maybe it's nothing but I noticed he is not sitting next to Steinmetz who is seated behind him in that twitter link.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 10:54:10 am
So when he doesn't fire Jeff, what do they do??

I don't think that will be an issue. Rarely does a Chancellor ever go against the BOT that hired him.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 10:54:33 am
Just a little smoke is all for the feeding frenzy.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogPharmer on November 09, 2017, 10:54:46 am
Cut out the breaks and let’s get down to business.

Filibuster!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 10:55:48 am
BB is not going to be here and the rest is just spitshine. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: dandd TD on November 09, 2017, 10:55:58 am
CBB is out. They don't decide those thing just on meeting day. That's not how it really works. The ones that have the power have made this decision. We will have a new coach in a short period of time.
I don't claim like many to have sources, but he's out. Long will
stay.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 10:56:04 am
Could it be that the BOT is recommending what Long and Steinmetz should do with Bielema and the meeting has nothing to do with Long's employment?  Would this even be the time or place to do that? 


Or seeing how they are going to handle the situation. But you're spot on for the most part
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 09, 2017, 10:56:06 am
Could it be that the BOT is recommending what Long and Steinmetz should do with Bielema and the meeting has nothing to do with Long's employment?  Would this even be the time or place to do that? 
I honestly have no clue. I'm just posting what I see pertaining to the BOT meeting. It's up to everyone else to decide what it means.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 10:56:47 am
Filibuster!



WILDCARD
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 10:57:02 am
Long sure looks awfully isolated in that pic.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 10:57:29 am
BOT info should be private in this situation but sadly won't be and that is a failure on a whole different level. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Arkansas Traveler on November 09, 2017, 10:57:53 am
From Pig Trail Nation:

“Future of both Long and Steinmetz at UA likely being discussed at this point. Several things not out publicly being discussed in this meeting per sources.”
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 10:58:38 am
I agree.

This is hilarious.  The "national media" might mention Long's termination in passing, with a blurb about him firing Petrino in 2012, but then will move on to more interesting and important sports stories such as whether a Cuban baseball player can be a racist for making fun of another minority or who is more injury prone, Sam Bradford or Sam Bowie.

The perceived reverence for and adoration of Jeff Long according to some Razorback fans is maybe the most bizarre situation I have ever observed in five decades of watching Arkansas athletics.  "Figment of the imagination" doesn't come close to doing it justice.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 10:58:55 am
BOT info should be private in this situation but sadly won't be and that is a failure on a whole different level.

They may have tried that already for all know.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: woodhog14 on November 09, 2017, 10:59:02 am
From Pig Trail Nation:

“Future of both Long and Steinmetz at UA likely being discussed at this point. Several things not out publicly being discussed in this meeting per sources.”
Wow. Steinmetz just started in June or July of this year.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogmolar on November 09, 2017, 10:59:42 am
I would submit that a very public summoning for explanations regarding a major project and its expenditures could be reason to believe that there might be some non performance issues.
Could be the case but none of us know how the BOT see it.  Most on here want JL fired because of the football record, which he should own. At the time the hire looked good and it did not work out.  This is just one portion ( I know one that most are crazy excited about) of his job.  We cant see how well he is doing in the other aspects set before him by the Chancellor or BOT.  Maybe they are there to ask him... How is the expansion going? Can you give us data and numbers? We all see our football program is struggling what are your plans?

Next cross roads in my opinion for JL is what does he do about football?  In my opinion he is playing Russian roulette.  Statistics show that there are more failures in hiring coaches than finding the next Urban Meyer.  As much as we don't like to hear it, he does not have unlimited resources or the program to get a known commodity.  As much as you want to research things sometimes your hire just won't work out.  This could be why he is so reluctant to fire CBB because he does have a great history and is a known commodity.  Some will disagree and I understand, but it is easy to sit in our chairs and say do this or that when our life and job is not dependent on it.       
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 10:59:51 am
From Pig Trail Nation:

“Future of both Long and Steinmetz at UA likely being discussed at this point. Several things not out publicly being discussed in this meeting per sources.”
As it should be even if Hogs were 8-0.  Its routine.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on November 09, 2017, 10:59:56 am
Read this.

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928664377414299648

Just a letter from a fan to the chancellor? 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 11:00:43 am
From Pig Trail Nation:

“Future of both Long and Steinmetz at UA likely being discussed at this point. Several things not out publicly being discussed in this meeting per sources.”

Go ahead and say it, per HV!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 11:00:54 am
Read this.

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928664377414299648

I've been saying for years, if you want the attention and respect of the recipient of your letter, you MUST refer to a fat person as Jabba the Hut.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 09, 2017, 11:01:25 am
BB is not going to be here and the rest is just spitshine. 

Yep common sense. 
JL:  Ok Bert's gone, this is our plan. 
BOT:  Chancellor Steinmetz do you concur?
JS:  Dilly Dilly
BOT: Dilly Dilly 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 11:01:26 am
This is hilarious.  The "national media" might mention Long's termination in passing, with a blurb about him firing Petrino in 2012, but then will move on to more interesting and important sports stories such as whether a Cuban baseball player can be a racist for making fun of another minority or who is more injury prone, Sam Bradford or Sam Bowie.


That is funny right there, and true
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: WalHog2018 on November 09, 2017, 11:01:35 am
huge: https://twitter.com/pigtrailnation/status/928667161949851650
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: azhog10 on November 09, 2017, 11:02:03 am
BOT info should be private in this situation but sadly won't be and that is a failure on a whole different level.
Good! Time for Them to come out with what's really going on. The state and taxpayers deserve answers.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 09, 2017, 11:02:29 am
Spin zone.

Fact zone
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 09, 2017, 11:02:31 am
Yeah, my buddy just told me he gone. So we'll see. Well actually he said it about 25mins ago, I just saw the text. So, we'll see what gonna happen. I'm sure JL trying to throw whoever he can under the bus as this point.
Who is gone, JL? I already know BB is gone.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Jim Harris on November 09, 2017, 11:02:32 am
Actually he nailed it. Broyles did screw up hiring Crowe. That was dumb

In hindsight. The fact that the replacement head coach had to be named less than three weeks before signing day did no favors to Broyles. Can  you imagine going through a coaching search in that short of a time before national signing day?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 09, 2017, 11:03:00 am
Just a letter from a fan to the chancellor? 
Yes. I just wanted people to read it. I agree with some of what he said , but felt like the "Jabba" comments and railing against Bobby Allen was way over the top and unnecessary.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 11:03:12 am
Read this.

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928664377414299648

That letter was dumb.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 11:03:37 am
I’ll say this, a two hour executive session is a lot more than Jeff Long saying, “The expansion is going great and we’ve sold all ten suites.”
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: azhog10 on November 09, 2017, 11:04:27 am
As it should be even if Hogs were 8-0.  Its routine.
LOL, this is not routine. But you paint whatever picture you'd like to paint......I'm still waiting for all these coaching changes and transfers to take place from last basketball season........
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 11:05:42 am
Yes. I just wanted people to read it. I agree with some of what he said , but felt like the "Jabba" comments and railing against Bobby Allen was way over the top and unnecessary.

The author clearly confused email with a message board.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on November 09, 2017, 11:06:06 am
From Pig Trail Nation:

“Future of both Long and Steinmetz at UA likely being discussed at this point. Several things not out publicly being discussed in this meeting per sources.”
"likely" lol..might as well have typed "we think". But with any meeting of course the future is always discussed.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BR on November 09, 2017, 11:06:25 am
In hindsight. The fact that the replacement head coach had to be named less than three weeks before signing day did no favors to Broyles. Can  you imagine going through a coaching search in that short of a time before national signing day?
  NOW with the New signing Dates in December, it is going to happen a lot..
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 09, 2017, 11:06:41 am
 Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason 9m9 minutes ago

Jeff Long and UA Chancellor Joe Steinmetz have not been seen for more than half an hour.

They were seated in auditorium when executive session began.
1 reply 7 retweets 2 likes
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on November 09, 2017, 11:06:48 am
Yes. I just wanted people to read it. I agree with some of what he said , but felt like the "Jabba" comments and railing against Bobby Allen was way over the top and unnecessary.

Word.  I'm just surprised the media posted that and thought there might be something more to it. 

I forget that a letter like this might be new content for someone that doesn't live on hogville. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on November 09, 2017, 11:07:23 am
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason 9m9 minutes ago

Jeff Long and UA Chancellor Joe Steinmetz have not been seen for more than half an hour.

They were seated in auditorium when executive session began.
1 reply 7 retweets 2 likes

I think this Tyler Thomason might be kind of a drama queen. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 11:07:45 am
If the BOT was going to do something serious, it would have happened already before today. 

This Is everyone just getting on the same pages today.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 11:07:50 am
Word.  I'm just surprised the media posted that and thought there might be something more to it. 

I forget that a letter like this might be new content for someone that doesn't live on hogville.

Might depend on who it was from.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 09, 2017, 11:07:57 am
Good! Time for Them to come out with what's really going on. The state and taxpayers deserve answers.

OFFS there is not some wild malfeasance going on.  Although everyone wants a better FB product, the BOT and Chancellor JS do not revolve around on field performance.  The UofA is a well run, growing, prospering, pragmatic, university.  The fact that BB is 4-5 and should have lost to Coastal does not mean the University is going down the tubes, officials are absconding with boatloads of cash or anything untoward.  It means an under-performing coach needs to be dealt with.  It's a personnel matter that should be discussed in ES, and it is.  We do not have to know every GD detail.  All I care about is that it will be resolved.  Side note:  If they happen to discuss the Coke Pepsi thing, I'm ok with that as well. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 09, 2017, 11:08:52 am
Word.  I'm just surprised the media posted that and thought there might be something more to it. 

I forget that a letter like this might be new content for someone that doesn't live on hogville. 
You know today's media, it's all about sensationalism.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hogman_33 on November 09, 2017, 11:09:20 am
Does JL have a buyout? If so how much?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 11:09:20 am
If, and I repeat if...because I have no sources...both Bielema and Long are canned I CANNOT WAIT for the fusillade of "revelations" that will come out before the door slams behind them.  "We knew all along that this **** wasn't going to work...."  The stories have been wrapped like Christmas presents, just waiting to have the bows torn off and the paper ripped to shreds, unveiling the goodies for all the world to see.

Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Karma on November 09, 2017, 11:09:48 am
From Pig Trail Nation:

“Future of both Long and Steinmetz at UA likely being discussed at this point. Several things not out publicly being discussed in this meeting per sources.”
If indeed the chancellor is on the hot seat. It's a lot bigger than football. Would have to be financial problems undisclosed.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 11:09:51 am
I’ll say this, a two hour executive session is a lot more than Jeff Long saying, “The expansion is going great and we’ve sold all ten suites.”

I'm sorry, please post the agenda for the executive session, I didn't realize that was all that was listed.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: azhog10 on November 09, 2017, 11:10:47 am
OFFS there is not some wild malfeasance going on.  Although everyone wants a better FB product, the BOT and Chancellor JS do not revolve around on field performance.  The UofA is a well run, growing, prospering, pragmatic, university.  The fact that BB is 4-5 and should have lost to Coastal does not mean the University is going down the tubes, officials are absconding with boatloads of cash or anything untoward.  It means an under-performing coach needs to be dealt with.  It's a personnel matter that should be discussed in ES, and it is.  We do not have to know every GD detail.  All I care about is that it will be resolved.  Side note:  If they happen to discuss the Coke Pepsi thing, I'm ok with that as well.
IT's also one asking for millions of dollars to help fund it's stadium renovation/add-on. It also has a history of doing shady things (CBP's hiring of his mistress) and then hiring an interim coach that was involved in a financial crisis of his own.

I think it's time there be more transparency absolutely.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 11:11:09 am
If the BOT was going to do something serious, it would have happened already before today. 

This Is everyone just getting on the same pages today.


I think people are expecting some scene from the apprentice where they shout "you're fired "


Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 09, 2017, 11:11:10 am
In hindsight. The fact that the replacement head coach had to be named less than three weeks before signing day did no favors to Broyles. Can  you imagine going through a coaching search in that short of a time before national signing day?

Yep, kind of a Derek Dooley situation.  AD's make bad hires.  Jeremy Foley, thought of as one of the best hired Ron Zook.  Making a bad hire isn't the end of the world.  Keeping him too long and not hiring someone better is the bigger problem.  Ford was better than Crowe, Nutt was better than Ford.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on November 09, 2017, 11:11:18 am
I’ll say this, a two hour executive session is a lot more than Jeff Long saying, “The expansion is going great and we’ve sold all ten suites.”

Been a part of many of this board's executive sessions, have you?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 11:11:25 am
LOL, this is not routine. But you paint whatever picture you'd like to paint......I'm still waiting for all these coaching changes and transfers to take place from last basketball season........

Mayberry and Haydar are gone. 

(Back to ignore)
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: zerose on November 09, 2017, 11:11:35 am
I am not a regular poster on this board. I do read from time to time because I am a diehard hog fan. If you check my previous post I have been able to predict/leak some things. I am making another "prediction". Long will not survive after this meeting today. I am not claiming he is gone today (I don't know that for sure). But he will not be here in one year's time. If you want to know the reason's why read some of my other posts.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 11:11:42 am
OFFS there is not some wild malfeasance going on.  Although everyone wants a better FB product, the BOT and Chancellor JS do not revolve around on field performance.  The UofA is a well run, growing, prospering, pragmatic, university.  The fact that BB is 4-5 and should have lost to Coastal does not mean the University is going down the tubes, officials are absconding with boatloads of cash or anything untoward.  It means an under-performing coach needs to be dealt with.  It's a personnel matter that should be discussed in ES, and it is.  We do not have to know every GD detail.  All I care about is that it will be resolved.  Side note:  If they happen to discuss the Coke Pepsi thing, I'm ok with that as well.

With the exception of Vanderbilt, none of the SEC schools are thought if as academic powerhouses.  Some are actually pretty good, like Florida, but that isn’t their draw.

For every single SEC school besides Vanderbilt and Kentucky (basketball) the football program is the most visible and important marketing tool.  Being respectable on the field actually is really important to the school as a whole.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hoglady on November 09, 2017, 11:12:02 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

Decisions like this shouldn't be made based on National media perception. They know nothing about Arkansas and don't really care anyway. The National media doesn't have some inside tract that gives them a better perspective on Arkansas athletics than the BOT and University president.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogmolar on November 09, 2017, 11:12:37 am
And what if BOT fires said chancellor??

And what if they invoke "vested interest"??
Then everyone can say welcome back GOBN!!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DiamondHogFan on November 09, 2017, 11:13:32 am
If indeed the chancellor is on the hot seat. It's a lot bigger than football. Would have to be financial problems undisclosed.
Valid point and could be non-football related.  But a very poor football program in the midst of a large stadium expansion project is indeed a financial problem.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: MrKlem10 on November 09, 2017, 11:13:44 am
Called it on Monday and my thread was trashed.   We shall see if it comes to light.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogPharmer on November 09, 2017, 11:13:46 am


WILDCARD

No bathroom breaks! No food! No water! The BOT will be forced to either make a decision or to become savages, feasting upon one another until only one remains! Last man standing has final say in what goes down.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: azhog10 on November 09, 2017, 11:15:46 am
Mayberry and Haydar are gone. 

(Back to ignore)
LOLZ.....Buh bye! What do you think happens to Grad Assistants after they graduate. If that was the intent of your post back then, then you were straight trolling and you are a moderator......pretty sad.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The NewEra on November 09, 2017, 11:15:54 am
That letter was dumb.

It's hard to be taken seriously when you write that type of a letter.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Dropkick on November 09, 2017, 11:16:08 am
OFFS there is not some wild malfeasance going on.  Although everyone wants a better FB product, the BOT and Chancellor JS do not revolve around on field performance.  The UofA is a well run, growing, prospering, pragmatic, university.  The fact that BB is 4-5 and should have lost to Coastal does not mean the University is going down the tubes, officials are absconding with boatloads of cash or anything untoward.  It means an under-performing coach needs to be dealt with.  It's a personnel matter that should be discussed in ES, and it is.  We do not have to know every GD detail.  All I care about is that it will be resolved.  Side note:  If they happen to discuss the Coke Pepsi thing, I'm ok with that as well. 
THIS!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Jim Harris on November 09, 2017, 11:17:46 am
With the exception of Vanderbilt, none of the SEC schools are thought if as academic powerhouses.  Some are actually pretty good, like Florida, but that isn’t their draw.

For every single SEC school besides Vanderbilt and Kentucky (basketball) the football program is the most visible and important marketing tool.  Being respectable on the field actually is really important to the school as a whole.

You need to check what's going on at Alabama if you believe they are not positioning themselves already as an Academic Powerhouse along the lines of a U of Michigan, UNC, UVa, public Ivy type school.
Florida has rated highly as an academic school according to U.S. News and World Report and other rankings. University of Georgia as well.

Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Kig on November 09, 2017, 11:17:49 am
My boys are a financial analyst in Chicago and a sophomore in high school, lol.

Do either of them have wings? 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Grag T on November 09, 2017, 11:18:32 am
The author clearly confused email with a message board.

Hahahaha you just nailed it.

Someone should've told that dunce-ski that if his letter sounds like something randomly posted on hogville, he probably needs to scrap the whole thing and start over.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 11:19:07 am
You need to check what's going on at Alabama if you believe they are not positioning themselves already as an Academic Powerhouse along the lines of a U of Michigan, UNC, UVa, public Ivy type school.
Florida has rated highly as an academic school according to U.S. News and World Report and other rankings. University of Georgia as well.

And what is giving them the visibility to make that transition?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoggyCat on November 09, 2017, 11:19:34 am
Does JL have a buyout? If so how much?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoggyCat on November 09, 2017, 11:20:52 am
Then everyone can say welcome back GOBN!!

Better than a GDYC!!!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Jim Harris on November 09, 2017, 11:21:22 am
And what is giving them the visibility to make that transition?

Football is helping tremendously, no doubt. Alabama's enrollment has gone nuts in the years that Saban has been there. And that's even with students who get tickets and then leave at halftime and piss him off.

You still have to have the academics and the professors. Alabama has been doing that and then some as they build a university the football team can be proud of.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 11:22:12 am
Football is helping tremendously, no doubt. Alabama's enrollment has gone nuts in the years that Saban has been there. And that's even with students who get tickets and then leave at halftime and piss him off.

You still have to have the academics and the professors. Alabama has been doing that and then some as they build a university the football team can be proud of.

Where did they get the money to fund those academics and professors?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hou-Hog on November 09, 2017, 11:22:30 am
With the exception of Vanderbilt, none of the SEC schools are thought if as academic powerhouses.  Some are actually pretty good, like Florida, but that isn’t their draw.

For every single SEC school besides Vanderbilt and Kentucky (basketball) the football program is the most visible and important marketing tool.  Being respectable on the field actually is really important to the school as a whole.
wrong.  Florida is rated very well.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 11:23:45 am
I am not a regular poster on this board. I do read from time to time because I am a diehard hog fan. If you check my previous post I have been able to predict/leak some things. I am making another "prediction". Long will not survive after this meeting today. I am not claiming he is gone today (I don't know that for sure). But he will not be here in one year's time. If you want to know the reason's why read some of my other posts.

I, for one, would like to see you post more often!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 11:24:09 am
Where did they get the money to fund those academics and professors?

You pay tuition lately?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogPharmer on November 09, 2017, 11:24:40 am

I think people are expecting some scene from the apprentice where they shout "you're fired "
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Inhogswetrust on November 09, 2017, 11:25:36 am
You need to check what's going on at Alabama if you believe they are not positioning themselves already as an Academic Powerhouse along the lines of a U of Michigan, UNC, UVa, public Ivy type school.
Florida has rated highly as an academic school according to U.S. News and World Report and other rankings. University of Georgia as well.



Yep. The only one close to an Ivy league type school is Vandy. BUT there are some really good schools in the SEC and I include Arkansas in that list. With as many universities/colleges as there are all over the whole country the rankings for most SEC schools is not bad.
Only one ranks below 175 in the latest IUS News rankings and it isn't Arkansas. It' MSU at 176. Nine rank between 133 to 100. FIVE rank in the top 100 with Vandy topping out at 15th. That's not bad but other P5 conferences are ranked better overall.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 11:26:08 am
wrong.  Florida is rated very well.

So, how do I know that you barely even skimmed what I wrote?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Godfather on November 09, 2017, 11:31:03 am
I about had a heart attack when I read this threads title.  Here's where my brain went.  I guess you mean a different JL.  ;)
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ModestoHOG63 on November 09, 2017, 11:31:10 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

It will be the dawn of a new day.            ( Who gives a crap what the outside world thinks.)
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 11:31:20 am
I, for one, would like to see you post more often!

I agree, we need more guys with credible sources on here.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 11:32:32 am
It will be the dawn of a new day.            ( Who gives a crap what the outside world thinks.)

Hog fans must care, otherwise they would not post all the time about the rest of the sec thinking we are a joke, or how embarrassed they are by what the football team did in their last game.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 11:33:21 am
It will be the dawn of a new day.            ( Who gives a crap what the outside world thinks.)

Exactly. Very well put.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Gonzo on November 09, 2017, 11:36:19 am
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

The UA getting rid of JL and/or BB will hardly be move the national radar. As much as we love the program and the school, the UA is just not that important nationally.


Go Hogs!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hog_Swanson on November 09, 2017, 11:41:04 am
Yep common sense. 
JL:  Ok Bert's gone, this is our plan. 
BOT:  Chancellor Steinmetz do you concur?
JS:  Dilly Dilly
BOT: Dilly Dilly
+1000
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 11:44:46 am
Now reported that Jeff Long is back outside the room where the executive session is being held while Steinmetz and the BOT are still in there.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogginbama on November 09, 2017, 11:45:32 am
Read this.

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928664377414299648

I just love how folks try to show intelligence, then revert to childish, 5 y/o games of name calling. Does it make the writer of that email feel more intelligent or more manly to his wife by using names such as "Jabba the Hut". Folks outside the state of Arkansas might take those from the state a little more serious about things if they didn't try to prove their manliness by demeaning others.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Cylinder on November 09, 2017, 11:46:26 am
We will not almost lose to Coastal.

[SLAMS HAND ON CONFERENCE TABLE]

That's an infamnia!


Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: porque on November 09, 2017, 11:47:18 am
You need to check what's going on at Alabama if you believe they are not positioning themselves already as an Academic Powerhouse along the lines of a U of Michigan, UNC, UVa, public Ivy type school.
Florida has rated highly as an academic school according to U.S. News and World Report and other rankings. University of Georgia as well.



This is very true.  I have a junior and senior high student with very high test scores.  Alabama has been the most aggressive at recruiting my kids.  We visited over the summer.  They are much more aggressive than Arkansas about going after high achieving students.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: mckinneyhog5 on November 09, 2017, 11:49:38 am
This is very true.  I have a junior and senior high student with very high test scores.  Alabama has been the most aggressive at recruiting my kids.  We visited over the summer.  They are much more aggressive than Arkansas about going after high achieving students.
They need tutors for their football players. J/K
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Kig on November 09, 2017, 11:53:35 am
And what is giving them the visibility to make that transition?

Football success...and raising the standards in many of the schools.  My daughter is in nursing school there.  They do 2 years of core work and make a cut based on number of slots available.  In her "cut" year, the line was somewhere above a 3.9 GPA, which is what one of her friends who didn't make it got.  Does that translate to all of the student body?  No, there are still stupid frat kids with 0.5 GPAs, but the expectations are high for others.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogFan219 on November 09, 2017, 11:54:31 am
+1000
+1000 - dilly dilly!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 11:55:00 am
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928678609824419840

This is the pic of man who's balls are now next to rick schaffer's somewhere in the athletic department.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BallHog1 on November 09, 2017, 11:56:27 am
You need to check what's going on at Alabama if you believe they are not positioning themselves already as an Academic Powerhouse along the lines of a U of Michigan, UNC, UVa, public Ivy type school.
Florida has rated highly as an academic school according to U.S. News and World Report and other rankings. University of Georgia as well.


I think what he meant to say is the success of the football team is really important to him. What he wrote was a lot of hot air.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 11:57:08 am
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928678609824419840

This is the pic of man who's balls are now next to rick schaffer's somewhere in the athletic department.

Or...he's reading.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BR on November 09, 2017, 11:57:50 am
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason  3m
3 minutes ago
 
 
More
Jeff Long up walking around outside executive session room. We've now surpassed three hours.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: cosmodrum on November 09, 2017, 11:58:20 am
We will not almost lose to Coastal.

[SLAMS HAND ON CONFERENCE TABLE]

That's an infamnia!




Best movie ever made.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 11:58:39 am
Or...he's reading.

He's read the same page for two hours.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: longbore on November 09, 2017, 11:58:58 am
Wonder if Some PTB were led to believe the buyout was the larger number like the casual fans were.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 12:00:59 pm
Wonder if Some PTB were led to believe the buyout was the larger number like the casual fans were.


If by ptb, you mean bot they approved the contract. Lol. Would be their own fault.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 12:01:38 pm

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928682150991417345

Now JL is using an app to find his balls.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rogersvillemohog on November 09, 2017, 12:01:49 pm
A 3+ hour executive meeting cannot be good for Long, right? At the very least, we will at least see some changes from him, I'm willing to bet. At the very most, he's gone. I can't imagine them just sitting in there for 3+ hours just twiddling their thumbs.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on November 09, 2017, 12:01:49 pm

Well I'll say based on the cult on the board today.  The #uncommon crowd is going to go out chanting.

 I don't know why that made me laugh, but it could be because it reminded me of this...
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyIqnMF8tBWgJ4zgCVNcNeiv_s_YOKRK-MZzZzOk_MerxG0Hw0)
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 12:05:23 pm
This is very true.  I have a junior and senior high student with very high test scores.  Alabama has been the most aggressive at recruiting my kids.  We visited over the summer.  They are much more aggressive than Arkansas about going after high achieving students.

Many schools go after high achieving students from out of state because they take so many soso students from in state. You ever look at the grade requirements to get a lottery scholarship in Ar? Not exactly high end students right there.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 12:05:50 pm
A 3+ hour executive meeting cannot be good for Long, right? At the very least, we will at least see some changes from him, I'm willing to bet. At the very most, he's gone. I can't imagine them just sitting in there for 3+ hours just twiddling their thumbs.

Oh no, it’s perfectly normal to keep a million dollar a year employee out in the Hall cooling his heels for three hours.  Just ask some of the guys on this board.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogPharmer on November 09, 2017, 12:08:40 pm
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason  3m
3 minutes ago
 
 
More
Jeff Long up walking around outside executive session room. We've now surpassed three hours.

$20 says the BOT is just sitting in that room reading this thread seeing how long this thread will go on while coinciding with their top secret meeting.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Seebs on November 09, 2017, 12:08:47 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke with peanuts in it.   He wept.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogPharmer on November 09, 2017, 12:10:37 pm
Many schools go after high achieving students from out of state because they take so many soso students from in state. You ever look at the grade requirements to get a lottery scholarship in Ar? Not exactly high end students right there.

And people threw a fit when they initially were going to make the requirement for lotto scholarship be 2.0 gpa AND like a 17 on the ACT....
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hoglady on November 09, 2017, 12:10:43 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke with peanuts in it.   He wept.

That's funny.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 12:10:50 pm
An Episode of Andy Griffith has broken out.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogPharmer on November 09, 2017, 12:10:55 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke with peanuts in it.   He wept.

Better than a diet coke with mentos
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggie17 on November 09, 2017, 12:11:49 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke with peanuts in it.   He wept.
With a moon pie?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on November 09, 2017, 12:12:24 pm
Look at this Choad said in the twitter comments..

...Brandon Hopkins‏ @dpiggler  11m11 minutes ago
More
Replying to @TyThomason
That email reeks of Hogville.

 The dudes twitter handle is dpiggler, as in Dirk Diggler; and his [CENSORED] joking Hogville type handle looks like someone who must have already been bant ones't or twighs't...
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 12:12:30 pm
Oh no, it’s perfectly normal to keep a million dollar a year employee out in the Hall cooling his heels for three hours.  Just ask some of the guys on this board.

They are arguing over whether he reminds them more of Kermit the Frog or Jerry Reed talking to Burt Reynolds in Smokey and the Bandit.

"Now Bo, when I tell you we're gonna keep winning in football, we ain't gonna keep winning." 

"We're not?"

"No, we're gonna become the worst football program in the SEC West."

"So winning is really worst in the SEC West."

"Right.  And when I say the stadium expansion is gonna cost $78 million, it ain't gonna cost $78 million."

"It's not?"

"No, it's gonna cost $160 million."

"So $78 million is really $160 million?"

"Yeah.  That ought to keep them confused."

"Oh, they'll be confused alright."
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hoglady on November 09, 2017, 12:12:36 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke with peanuts in it.   He wept.

But if he really wanted to go TRUE Southern old school - it would be an RC Cola with peanuts.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhog1 on November 09, 2017, 12:13:04 pm
https://twitter.com/tythomason?lang=en
2 minutes ago

BREAKING: UA Board members are out of executive session.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 09, 2017, 12:13:10 pm
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928678609824419840

This is the pic of man who's balls are now next to rick schaffer's somewhere in the athletic department.
He says he is a husband...and a Lakers fan. What does he husband?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: porque on November 09, 2017, 12:13:38 pm
Many schools go after high achieving students from out of state because they take so many soso students from in state. You ever look at the grade requirements to get a lottery scholarship in Ar? Not exactly high end students right there.

Its gotten much more difficult to get in to the U of A.  Their minimum requirements are not real high, but you also can not get in with the minimum.  U of A hands out much less in scholarship money to local kids for some reason.  They say that they are going to correct that. They haven't as of yet. My daughter already knows what she will get from Alabama.  We will not hear from Arkansas until next spring.  Alabama just tries harder for the good students.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Godfather on November 09, 2017, 12:13:43 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke PEPSI with peanuts in it.   He wept.

Fixed that..
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 12:14:50 pm
There won’t be any immediate announcement of anything.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Seebs on November 09, 2017, 12:15:07 pm
With a moon pie?

That is  RC cola sir. And if reynolds stadium went to RC - there should be no agrument
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 12:15:17 pm
Look at this Choad said in the twitter comments..

...Brandon Hopkins‏ @dpiggler  11m11 minutes ago
More
Replying to @TyThomason
That email reeks of Hogville.

 The dudes twitter handle is dpiggler, as in Dirk Diggler; and his [CENSORED] joking Hogville type handle looks like someone who must have already been bant ones't or twighs't...

Actually, Hogville has better letters posted.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Inhogswetrust on November 09, 2017, 12:15:30 pm
An Episode of Andy Griffith has broken out.

Heck three hours is the minimum time frame to watch Andy episodes!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DoctorSusscrofa on November 09, 2017, 12:15:49 pm
https://twitter.com/tythomason?lang=en
2 minutes ago

BREAKING: UA Board members are out of executive session.

Just in time for lunch.  Then another executive session?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Inhogswetrust on November 09, 2017, 12:17:00 pm
With a moon pie?

Is that a hint Long's going to go to UT Chattanooga?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: bighog2255 on November 09, 2017, 12:18:09 pm
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason · 10m minutes ago
Board members are being seated. Jeff Long not in auditorium.

Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 09, 2017, 12:18:26 pm
Its gotten much more difficult to get in to the U of A.  Their minimum requirements are not real high, but you also can not get in with the minimum.  U of A hands out much less in scholarship money to local kids for some reason.  They say that they are going to correct that. They haven't as of yet. My daughter already knows what she will get from Alabama.  We will not hear from Arkansas until next spring.  Alabama just tries harder for the good students.
Going back to 2010 when we had our college finding experience with our youngest, it was crystal clear that Arkansas was not up to par in getting the top students when compared to Oklahoma (it has a division with about 8 people working in to devoted solely to attracting National Merit Finalist students), Miss St, Auburn, and Alabama. I would throw in others but they are obvious already and/or private schools (SMU, ND,  Univ of Va, Univ of Ga, U of NC, W&L, and a couple of others). All of those we had direct experience with.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 12:18:35 pm
Just in time for lunch.  Then another executive session?

This time it's double secret executive session, it's so secret, no one will be there.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Next1_04 on November 09, 2017, 12:18:54 pm
UA Board "no action taken on Brett or Jeff"

Rofl.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: bighog2255 on November 09, 2017, 12:19:40 pm
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason · 1m minute ago 

BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.



Merely a routine meeting, sounds like
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hobhog on November 09, 2017, 12:20:43 pm
Lots of smoke. Heard there was "elephant in the room" in BOT last night but nothing discussed about athletics. High drama expected today.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BJJHog on November 09, 2017, 12:20:47 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke with peanuts in it.   He wept.
lol i'M WIPING AWAY ME TEARS WITH ME MONEY ;D
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DoctorSusscrofa on November 09, 2017, 12:20:55 pm
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason · 1m minute ago 

BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.



Merely a routine meeting, sounds like


Breaking News! Stop the presses!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 09, 2017, 12:21:14 pm
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason · 1m minute ago 

BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.



Merely a routine meeting, sounds like
As far as you know. Does anyone who knows anything at all about this process really think the BOT is going to instantly type up a PR stating they just release Jeff Long and will fire BB shortly? Silly. It's already been done and they'll announce it the weekend after the Missouri game.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Jackrabbit Hog on November 09, 2017, 12:21:19 pm
This time it's double secret executive session, it's so secret, no one will be there.

Is this guy running the meeting?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on November 09, 2017, 12:21:30 pm
Actually, Hogville has better letters posted.
I agree. Poor writing skills. It just miffed me that there are so many idiots here that their reputation rubs off on the rest of us.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: RagingHawgOn on November 09, 2017, 12:21:52 pm

Breaking News! Stop the presses!

Total shock!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on November 09, 2017, 12:22:37 pm
Is this guy running the meeting?

 I think he could learn a thing or two from Jeff about double secrets...
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 12:22:45 pm
Its gotten much more difficult to get in to the U of A.  Their minimum requirements are not real high, but you also can not get in with the minimum.  U of A hands out much less in scholarship money to local kids for some reason.  They say that they are going to correct that. They haven't as of yet. My daughter already knows what she will get from Alabama.  We will not hear from Arkansas until next spring.  Alabama just tries harder for the good students.

Cause UofA is almost at capacity now since they give out of state tuition to places like Taxes. They do not have to give out a ton of scholarships, BUT the lottery scholarships do not come fro the UofA. My kid is a FR this year, and one of the schools he looked at was UofA, so we know all about it. You are right though, they take for ever letting people know what they will be getting in FA when compared to other schools.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BJJHog on November 09, 2017, 12:23:08 pm
Is this guy running the meeting?
"Fat, dumb, and lazy is no way to go through life, son."
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 12:23:15 pm
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason · 1m minute ago 

BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.



Merely a routine meeting, sounds like

Uh...the fact that they even acknowledge discussing them is pretty big.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 12:23:48 pm
Is not renewing Long's contract a case of "taking no action"?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: forrest city joe on November 09, 2017, 12:23:49 pm
Tyler Thomason
@TyThomason
·
3m
BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: RagingHawgOn on November 09, 2017, 12:25:30 pm
Tyler Thomason
@TyThomason
·
3m
BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.

Thanks for the breaking update!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 12:25:36 pm
"Fat, dumb, and lazy is no way to go through life, son."

that's when I dropped a few pounds.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Kevin on November 09, 2017, 12:25:44 pm
no action today, but the key that we will have to watch play out, is what was discussed & plan of action for the future
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Kevin on November 09, 2017, 12:26:11 pm
Is not renewing Long's contract a case of "taking no action"?

that was my first thought
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 12:27:06 pm
Is not renewing Long's contract a case of "taking no action"?

That's what it sounds like to me. They are just going to allow his contract to expire in June.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Fan1958 on November 09, 2017, 12:28:44 pm
"Fat, dumb, drunk and lazy stupid is no way to go through life, son."

Get it right, son.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Deep Shoat on November 09, 2017, 12:29:02 pm
Tyler Thomason
@TyThomason
·
3m
BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.
hahahahahahabahababahabahaha...

Hahahahahahabahababaha
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Wildhog on November 09, 2017, 12:29:31 pm
That's what it sounds like to me. They are just going to allow his contract to expire in June.

So the new coach won't know who his boss is going to be?  Seems odd to me.

Makes me worry they're going to give Bielema another year.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: navyhog24 on November 09, 2017, 12:29:32 pm
Anyone hearing anything about financial issues and deceiving the board regarding the expansion? Or is that just far fetched rumor? Also any truth to the rumor of insurance fraud surrounding RWIII?

Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tusked on November 09, 2017, 12:31:41 pm


Yeah is there any truth to the RWIII insurance issue?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: tzthib on November 09, 2017, 12:31:46 pm
Anyone hearing anything about financial issues and deceiving the board regarding the expansion? Or is that just far fetched rumor? Also any truth to the rumor of insurance fraud surrounding RWIII?

Insurance fraud?!?!?! Huh? Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Piggfoot on November 09, 2017, 12:32:00 pm
Is not renewing Long's contract a case of "taking no action"?
That's what it sounds like to me. They are just going to allow his contract to expire in June.
When would Long's contract be renewed? The board would not make that recommendation.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Karma on November 09, 2017, 12:32:07 pm
So the new coach won't know who his boss is going to be?  Seems odd to me.

Makes me worry they're going to give Bielema another year.
Me too.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BJJHog on November 09, 2017, 12:33:00 pm
That's what it sounds like to me. They are just going to allow his contract to expire in June.
I do not think we will get that far in time to see it expire.  I think an amicable parting of the relationship is being played out.  The Foundation will have a great say in the next HFBC along with its primary constituents.  No AD/Seach committee needed for this.  Have faith, think positive Razorbacks (supporters, loyal fans, alumni, former players).  Its all good and in motion.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 12:35:54 pm
When would Long's contract be renewed? The board would not make that recommendation.

Wrong. The Board is responsible for approving contracts but they took no action on Long's. That probably means they are going to allow his current contract to expire in June.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Piggfoot on November 09, 2017, 12:36:31 pm
But if he really wanted to go TRUE Southern old school - it would be an RC Cola with peanuts.
You mean MOON PIE don't you.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 12:37:25 pm
Wrong. The Board is responsible for approving contracts but they took no action on Long's. That probably means they are going to allow his current contract to expire in June.

It’s reported that they didn’t even discuss Long or CBb’s job. You’re creating this in your head.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Piggfoot on November 09, 2017, 12:38:19 pm
Wrong. The Board is responsible for approving contracts but they took no action on Long's. That probably means they are going to allow his current contract to expire in June.
How do you know Long's contract was a topic of discussion?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 12:39:06 pm
I do not think we will get that far in time to see it expire.  I think an amicable parting of the relationship is being played out.  The Foundation will have a great say in the next HFBC along with its primary constituents.  No AD/Seach committee needed for this.  Have faith, think positive Razorbacks (supporters, loyal fans, alumni, former players).  Its all good and in motion.

I agree. An amicable agreement to part ways could be in the works between Long an the U of A.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 12:40:02 pm
Tyler Thomason‏ @TyThomason · 1m minute ago 

BREAKING: UA Board reports no action taken on Bret Bielema, Jeff Long following executive session.



Merely a routine meeting, sounds like

It's my understanding both Steinmetz and Long brought Bud Light, BB.......well.....
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 12:40:37 pm
I agree. An amicable agreement to part ways could be in the works between Long an the U of A.

Or, just as likely, the BOT is happy with his overall performance as AD.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRyan on November 09, 2017, 12:41:13 pm
Its gotten much more difficult to get in to the U of A.  Their minimum requirements are not real high, but you also can not get in with the minimum.  U of A hands out much less in scholarship money to local kids for some reason.  They say that they are going to correct that. They haven't as of yet. My daughter already knows what she will get from Alabama.  We will not hear from Arkansas until next spring.  Alabama just tries harder for the good students.

A friend of ours had a 3.7 and 34 ACT.  Full ride from Alabama for engineering and he was offered 2k plus the lottery at Arkansas.  On the college message boards like college confidential Arkansas has a reputation of being very stingy with scholarship money.  High achieving in state kids should not have to go out of state to get a full ride.  Arkansas needs to be much more transparent with scholarships.  At most public schools in the region they will have a chart that shows what you get with a certain GPA and ACT score.  At Arkansas you have no idea what you are getting.  The loss of the 2nd tier Governor's scholarship has also hurt.  There are a lot of good in state students in that 27-31 ACT range that can't get any money at Arkansas so they go elsewhere. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 09, 2017, 12:41:15 pm
Interesting.  No action actually seems more indicative of an interesting situation than action.  They could have had a confidence/no confidence vote but did not.  Reading tea leaves, a mutual agreement has either been reached or Long was handed information by the BOT on how they wish to see things go and all final action is tabled for now.  I would have expected a vote of confidence if all was well in Long’s world.  That not happening is interesting and indicative of the current unrest.  Yes...pure speculation, but that’s how I see it.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BJJHog on November 09, 2017, 12:41:23 pm
Me too.

Winners may not care who their immediate boss is.  They know that progress is rewarded and recognized by the end consumers to whom they deliver.  Although Higher Education institutions are infected with self-serving admins./structure and low quality in execution in delivery of great experience to their customers (students); that does not remain the case in SEC football.  The UA tolerates this a bit longer due to its rapid growth and issues surrounding and taking students for granted, but I think that is changing too with Dr. Steinmetz.  He is a compassionate, humble, genuine man, but he has always gotten results.  Still waters run deep.  Do not underestimated this man's desire to win more academically and athletically and financially.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 12:41:37 pm
It's my understanding both Steinmetz and Long brought Bud Light, BB.......well.....

The pit of misery?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: colbs on November 09, 2017, 12:42:29 pm
So the new coach won't know who his boss is going to be?  Seems odd to me.

Makes me worry they're going to give Bielema another year.
If they wait till after the season to fire Long then it puts Arkansas at an even bigger disadvantage when finding a new HC.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 12:42:34 pm
It’s reported that they didn’t even discuss Long or CBb’s job. You’re creating this in your head.

Where is that being reported?  Taking no action is not the same thing as not discussing.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 12:42:37 pm
Is not renewing Long's contract a case of "taking no action"?

Depends on who you believe, some say he has a 5 year rollover contract, so.....
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 12:43:10 pm
How do you know Long's contract was a topic of discussion?

It has been well known for some time that a new contract for Jeff Long was in the works and the BOT was supposed to vote on it this week. Instead, they took no action.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Kevin on November 09, 2017, 12:43:12 pm
Interesting.  No action actually seems more indicative of an interesting situation than action.  They could have had a confidence/no confidence vote but did not.  Reading tea leaves, a mutual agreement has either been reached or Long was handed information by the BOT on how they wish to see things go and all final action is tabled for now.  I would have expected a vote of confidence if all was well in Long’s world.  That not happening is interesting and indicative of the current unrest.  Yes...pure speculation, but that’s how I see it.


agree. I believe the hogs are in a holding pattern. probably recommendation were given if it goes the way it looks like it will. 4-8, 1-7 in the league.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 12:43:50 pm
The pit of misery?

Dilly Dilly
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 09, 2017, 12:44:07 pm
The pit of misery?
Dilly Dilly!!!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 12:46:31 pm
A friend of ours had a 3.7 and 34 ACT.  Full ride from Alabama for engineering and he was offered 2k plus the lottery at Arkansas.  On the college message boards like college confidential Arkansas has a reputation of being very stingy with scholarship money.  High achieving in state kids should not have to go out of state to get a full ride.  Arkansas needs to be much more transparent with scholarships.  At most public schools in the region they will have a chart that shows what you get with a certain GPA and ACT score.  At Arkansas you have no idea what you are getting.  The loss of the 2nd tier Governor's scholarship has also hurt.  There are a lot of good in state students in that 27-31 ACT range that can't get any money at Arkansas so they go elsewhere. 

My kids had 33 and a 34, and both had/have full rides, counting the Lottery scholarship.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 12:46:59 pm
It’s reported that they didn’t even discuss Long or CBb’s job. You’re creating this in your head.

That is not what is being reported. What's being reported is they took no action on Long or Bielema.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 12:47:06 pm
Dilly Dilly!!!

Tie goes to the winner!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogsanity on November 09, 2017, 12:47:13 pm
A friend of ours had a 3.7 and 34 ACT.  Full ride from Alabama for engineering and he was offered 2k plus the lottery at Arkansas.  On the college message boards like college confidential Arkansas has a reputation of being very stingy with scholarship money.  High achieving in state kids should not have to go out of state to get a full ride.  Arkansas needs to be much more transparent with scholarships.  At most public schools in the region they will have a chart that shows what you get with a certain GPA and ACT score.  At Arkansas you have no idea what you are getting.  The loss of the 2nd tier Governor's scholarship has also hurt.  There are a lot of good in state students in that 27-31 ACT range that can't get any money at Arkansas so they go elsewhere. 

I can tell you that is exactly right. My kid had a better gpa and the same act, and got the same offer from UofA. He did stay in state, and not only got a full ride, but he is getting 4K a semester stipend too.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: snoblind on November 09, 2017, 12:49:33 pm
"Fat, dumb, and lazy is no way to go through life, son."

Seems to have worked out OK for BB.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 12:49:52 pm
It has been well known for some time that a new contract for Jeff Long was in the works and the BOT was supposed to vote on it this week. Instead, they took no action.

Here's a classic for ya.

Citation needed.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Kevin on November 09, 2017, 12:50:04 pm
Seems to have worked out OK for BB.


was not that big when he got here
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: snoblind on November 09, 2017, 12:54:25 pm
It’s reported that they didn’t even discuss Long or CBb’s job. You’re creating this in your head.

Where?  I thought executive sessions were closed. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogblitz on November 09, 2017, 12:54:41 pm
I think Long went into the meeting concerned for his job.  I think he told the BOT his plans to replace BB.  Now, he is hoping that this is enough to save his own skin. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRyan on November 09, 2017, 12:54:54 pm
My kids had 33 and a 34, and both had/have full rides, counting the Lottery scholarship.

Did they receive a Fellowship or the Governor's scholarship?   
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on November 09, 2017, 12:56:21 pm
I think Long went into the meeting concerned for his job.  I think he told the BOT his plans to replace BB.  Now, he is hoping that this is enough to save his own skin.

It's gotta be this. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 12:57:20 pm
Here's a classic for ya.

Citation needed.

Try doing some reading. It's been discussed here on Hogville quite a bit the last few Months. Finebaum even spoke on his show about a new contract being in the works for Long and it was announced a few weeks back that the BOT was scheduled to vote on it this week. That vote did not happen.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 01:00:09 pm
Try doing some reading. It's been discussed here on Hogville

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Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 01:00:20 pm
Try doing some reading. It's been discussed here on Hogville quite a bit the last few Months. Finebaum even spoke on his show about a new contract being in the works for Long and it was announced a few weeks back that the BOT was scheduled to vote on it this week. That vote did not happen.

Link to the announcement?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 01:06:18 pm
Link to the announcement?

For cryin out loud man, where have you been?? It's been all over the board the last few weeks.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 01:09:28 pm
For cryin out loud man, where have you been?? It's been all over the board the last few weeks.


So it must have been true!!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: younghog on November 09, 2017, 01:11:14 pm
That is not what is being reported. What's being reported is they took no action on Long or Bielema.

NO ITS REPORTED

THEY TOOK NO VOTE ON LONG
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 01:12:41 pm
Did they receive a Fellowship or the Governor's scholarship?   

Nope, Chancellor's scholarship and a scholarship from their college. You had to have better to get a Fellowship.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 01:14:45 pm
For cryin out loud man, where have you been?? It's been all over the board the last few weeks.

Then post a link.  I’ve seen nothing saying a vote was supposed to take place.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: factchecker on November 09, 2017, 01:15:03 pm
Many schools go after high achieving students from out of state because they take so many soso students from in state. You ever look at the grade requirements to get a lottery scholarship in Ar? Not exactly high end students right there.

There is a reason why we have to recruit kids out of state.  Our public schools simply aren't preparing their students for college.

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Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on November 09, 2017, 01:17:34 pm
Anyone hearing anything about financial issues and deceiving the board regarding the expansion? Or is that just far fetched rumor? Also any truth to the rumor of insurance fraud surrounding RWIII?
Can someone address this?!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DeltaBoy on November 09, 2017, 01:19:18 pm
Public release was nothing was done.  Reality we don't know and they are not saying but just wait and see what happens between now and Jan 1, 2018.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 01:20:12 pm
Then post a link.  I’ve seen nothing saying a vote was supposed to take place.

Then you haven't been paying attention. It was posted in the last couple of months by different posters (not me) that the vote on Jeff Long's new contract was to take place this week.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 01:21:22 pm
You all built this meeting, that was just a run of the mill BOT meeting, into something it never was.

Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 01:21:46 pm
You all built this meeting, that was just a run of the mill BOT meeting, into something it never was.
That’s exactly what happened.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 01:22:03 pm
Then you haven't been paying attention.

You’ve got the IQ of a rotting tree stump.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 01:22:23 pm
Then you haven't been paying attention.



People were speculating and really just emphasizing the fact he wouldn't be fired today.


IE, it's more likely he will get a raise than get fired.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 01:22:49 pm
You’ve got the IQ of a rotting tree stump.


Don't talk about tree stumps that way.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: younghog on November 09, 2017, 01:24:32 pm
You all built this meeting, that was just a run of the mill BOT meeting, into something it never was.



EXACTLY.. and they used their lunch clicking next on the mouse hoping for something that will not occur..
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 09, 2017, 01:29:36 pm
Not if the story is about numbers fudging related to the stadium expansion.

If Long fudged numbers, then David Pryor was correct with his opposition, and Pryor is vindicated.

The next time someone such as David Pryor raises a concern(s), then people should heed such concern(s).
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 01:33:12 pm


People were speculating and really just emphasizing the fact he wouldn't be fired today.


IE, it's more likely he will get a raise than get fired.

Wrong. They were supposed to vote on Long's new contract today but that vote did not happen.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Porked Tongue on November 09, 2017, 01:34:59 pm
Good gosh people quit catfighting & regurgitating the same damn thing each time someone disagrees with you. It's pointless.  Once you've said it on the thread, you've said it.

This is how crap ends up in the trash.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: GuvHog on November 09, 2017, 01:35:44 pm
You’ve got the IQ of a rotting tree stump.

Look who's talking.

Typical. Resorting to personal attack when you can't win an argument.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Springfield_MO_Razorback on November 09, 2017, 01:39:12 pm
Tie goes to the winner!

Dilly! Dilly!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Kevin on November 09, 2017, 01:39:23 pm
Look who's talking.

Typical. Resorting to personal attack when you can't win an argument.

that is what he does. and thinks he is funny in the process
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgsalot on November 09, 2017, 01:44:44 pm
So a big nothing burger, we had it all
a friend text me said long's gone
play by play tweets
stadium fraudulent suite sales (the dumbest thing I've heard in a while)
We had the kid's dancing in the street at the thought of long and bb getting fired today..
then we had the excuses why it didn't happen
now we have a new narrative to keep it going in not renewing contracts lol

You guys flat out look silly....dilly dilly
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: grayhawg on November 09, 2017, 01:46:27 pm
So a big nothing burger, we had it all
a friend text me said long's gone
play by play tweets
stadium fraudulent suite sales (the dumbest thing I've heard in a while)
We had the kid's dancing in the street at the thought of long and bb getting fired today..
then we had the excuses why it didn't happen
now we have a new narrative to keep it going in not renewing contracts lol

You guys flat out look silly....dilly dilly

Year's not over yet, 3 more games
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: PorkRinds on November 09, 2017, 01:46:37 pm
Look who's talking.

Typical. Resorting to personal attack when you can't win an argument.

It’s impossible to even have an argument when your proof of your statement is “read some posts on hogville”. There is no argument. It’s you just saying random stuff.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Inhogswetrust on November 09, 2017, 01:47:42 pm
It has been well known for some time that a new contract for Jeff Long was in the works and the BOT was supposed to vote on it this week. Instead, they took no action.

What fantasy Guv source told you they were suppose to vote on it this week?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: BR on November 09, 2017, 01:48:03 pm
YEP
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 09, 2017, 01:50:02 pm
Good gosh people quit catfighting & regurgitating the same damn thing each time someone disagrees with you. It's pointless.  Once you've said it on the thread, you've said it.

This is how crap ends up in the trash.

And unfortunately 90% of MMQB probably needs to be there right now.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on November 09, 2017, 01:51:56 pm
What fantasy Guv source told you they were suppose to vote on it this week?
Paul Finebaum said they were supposed to be doing it soon. He said this live on air with Tom Murphy
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 01:56:16 pm
Wrong. They were supposed to vote on Long's new contract today but that vote did not happen.




Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.


It was speculated that it might happen, not reported. You do know the difference in those words right?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Dwight_K_Shrute on November 09, 2017, 01:59:41 pm



Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.


It was speculated that it might happen, not reported. You do know the difference in those words right?

He don't know no better.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Inhogswetrust on November 09, 2017, 01:59:46 pm
Paul Finebaum said they were supposed to be doing it soon. He said this live on air with Tom Murphy

What makes you believe Finebaum knows all the inner workings of the BOT here? His source might be no better than Guvs.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hoglady on November 09, 2017, 01:59:51 pm
At this point no one really knows what was discussed and what was said in that closed door session.
Could have been run of mill nothing and it could have been breaking news.
We'll find out soon enough.
We were never going to hear anything today about the future of Long or Bielema.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 02:00:16 pm
He don't know no better.


I know. Not sure why I even go there lol
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 02:07:44 pm
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928707840038105089

Finally got the chance to speak to multiple board members about executive session. Wouldn't go into detail about topics discussed. Jeff Long never came into room.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 02:08:33 pm

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928709146656104449

Unclear why Jeff Long attended the UA board meeting. He doesn't always attend. Sources tell me UA Chancellor Joe Steinmetz wanted him there.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: jgphillips3 on November 09, 2017, 02:12:05 pm
If you expected something to happen today, then your expectations were unrealistic.  If anything, what did not happen is more interesting.  No vote on anything related to Long.  If I were the BOT and I was worried about the direction of the program, I would want Long to be present, make him aware his choices in leadership for the football program are being watched very closely and his “new contract” will come out after appropriate changes are made.  Honestly, nothing is what I would expect to see today.  2.5 weeks until we see the other shoe fall.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 02:14:18 pm
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928707840038105089

Finally got the chance to speak to multiple board members about executive session. Wouldn't go into detail about topics discussed. Jeff Long never came into room.

Dang, Hogville trolled Jeff Long into driving to Little Rock to sit outside the room when he was never even on the agenda. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: younghog on November 09, 2017, 02:15:32 pm



Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.


It was speculated that it might happen, not reported. You do know the difference in those words right?

CLASSIC
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hogblitz on November 09, 2017, 02:20:28 pm

The statement said he was not even in the same room with the BOT during executive session.  Is this normal?  It may be but I simply do not know. 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: younghog on November 09, 2017, 02:21:05 pm
The statement said he was not even in the same room with the BOT during executive session.  Is this normal?  It may be but I simply do not know. 

was out on one part of business and in on another..

Not sure why others can't see this..
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 02:21:43 pm
The statement said he was not even in the same room with the BOT during executive session.  Is this normal?  It may be but I simply do not know. 

Read the next post.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Eddie Goodson on November 09, 2017, 02:25:09 pm
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928719088523907072 (https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928719088523907072)

/End of thread.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 02:29:00 pm
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928719088523907072 (https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928719088523907072)

/End of thread.

We could only be so fortunate.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: younghog on November 09, 2017, 02:29:07 pm
was out on one part of business and in on another..

Not sure why others can't see this..

reposting.. lol
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: zerose on November 09, 2017, 02:29:31 pm
I agree, we need more guys with credible sources on here.

I'm not going to don the insider mantle. I had intuition on the BB hire, based on research and common sense. I do have a "source" in the media... and no I am going to reveal that source. As posted many times in this board the current administration is very conscientious about leaks. Even the media has a hard time getting anything.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: younghog on November 09, 2017, 02:33:01 pm
Its 5 o'clock somewhere for Zerose

All praise the SOURCE lol
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Eddie Goodson on November 09, 2017, 02:34:34 pm
reposting.. lol
He was not part of Executive Session. Period.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 02:37:31 pm
He was not part of Executive Session. Period.

Yet, he felt compelled to attend and sit outside for three hours.  He fell for the rumors too.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: younghog on November 09, 2017, 02:37:35 pm
He was not part of Executive Session. Period.

lol. I don't care.. nor did I say he was..
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Next1_04 on November 09, 2017, 02:38:13 pm
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928719088523907072 (https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928719088523907072)

/End of thread.

Hogville: He had a pause there for a second, that means Gruden is the new AD.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Eddie Goodson on November 09, 2017, 02:40:31 pm
Yet, he felt compelled to attend and sit outside for three hours.  He fell for the rumors too.
I am guessing he was told  by the Chancellor to be there. The only way he was going into that Exec Session was if the Chancellor was disciplining him and that would have had to be announced beforehand.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: mhuff on November 09, 2017, 02:45:25 pm
You all built this meeting, that was just a run of the mill BOT meeting, into something it never was.



Some people want to create drama at every turn. However, I can't help but think that there was discussion about the crowd size. I have never seen that in my entire life.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: rhames on November 09, 2017, 02:52:37 pm
Some people want to create drama at every turn. However, I can't help but think that there was discussion about the crowd size. I have never seen that in my entire life.


Oh no doubt in my mind but no one was ever getting fired today.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ThisTeetsTaken on November 09, 2017, 03:17:38 pm
So why did Long sit outside the meeting for 3-4 hours ? 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: EastexHawg on November 09, 2017, 03:18:25 pm
I guess this means Hank, Jr. is safe for now...but as soon as Long is fired I am going to challenge him to a shot drinking contest to celebrate.  In fact, to heck with the shot glass...I'm drinking straight out of the bottle.  Wait...screw the bottle as well.  I'm going straight to the barrel.  I'm inviting the ghosts of Ernest Hemingway and Harry Caray, too.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: hawgon on November 09, 2017, 03:19:13 pm
So why did Long sit outside the meeting for 3-4 hours ?

He was just there in case Mr. Steinmetz needed his counsel on any of the matters that were COMPLETELY UNRELATED to athletics or Jeff Long that we’re being discussed.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Eddie Goodson on November 09, 2017, 03:19:51 pm
So why did Long sit outside the meeting for 3-4 hours ? 
Probably for the same reason we have dept heads sitting outside our long exec. sessions. Because the Chancellor told him to.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: RazorPiggie on November 09, 2017, 04:01:18 pm
Tyler Thomason seems like a d-bag.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Deep Shoat on November 09, 2017, 04:13:36 pm
Can someone address this?!
Sure.

It’s bull darn.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Karma on November 09, 2017, 04:20:55 pm
Tyler Thomason seems like a d-bag.
Why do you say that?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 04:24:58 pm
Sure.

It’s bull darn.

Is it? 
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Kc-Razor on November 09, 2017, 04:34:45 pm
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Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Con el Cerdos on November 09, 2017, 04:41:40 pm
There won’t be any immediate announcement of anything.

By the week end there will be leaks.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 04:52:38 pm
Yeah, my buddy just told me he gone. So we'll see. Well actually he said it about 25mins ago, I just saw the text. So, we'll see what gonna happen. I'm sure JL trying to throw whoever he can under the bus as this point.

My source said he was gonna be first to go, so perhaps, here we gooooooooooo...
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: phadedhawg on November 09, 2017, 04:53:55 pm
so this is another 8 page nothingburger?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HawgPound on November 09, 2017, 04:55:28 pm

https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928709146656104449

Unclear why Jeff Long attended the UA board meeting. He doesn't always attend. Sources tell me UA Chancellor Joe Steinmetz wanted him there.

My boss asked me to attend a meeting I usually skip last week. I was being presented an award.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 04:59:14 pm
If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

You have to come up with more than that.  He isn't getting the job done in academics either...  Gone! 

Besides, you can't let Long have anything to do with the next hire.  This would be an excellent show that they are taking serious first steps.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 05:00:26 pm
Not if the story is about numbers fudging related to the stadium expansion.

Boom.  We have a winna!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: thebignasty on November 09, 2017, 05:00:47 pm
so this is another 8 page nothingburger?

yes
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: ricepig on November 09, 2017, 05:03:41 pm
Boom.  We have a winna!

Well, out with the details, because the RF is telling a different story and I doubt Varady wants to put his reputation on the line over "bogus" numbers.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: sowmonella on November 09, 2017, 05:03:45 pm
so this is another 8 page nothingburger?
But....Everyone's source said it was going to happen today
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Razorbackers on November 09, 2017, 05:04:16 pm
so this is another 8 page nothingburger?

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Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 09, 2017, 05:07:07 pm
A friend of ours had a 3.7 and 34 ACT.  Full ride from Alabama for engineering and he was offered 2k plus the lottery at Arkansas.  On the college message boards like college confidential Arkansas has a reputation of being very stingy with scholarship money.  High achieving in state kids should not have to go out of state to get a full ride.  Arkansas needs to be much more transparent with scholarships.  At most public schools in the region they will have a chart that shows what you get with a certain GPA and ACT score.  At Arkansas you have no idea what you are getting.  The loss of the 2nd tier Governor's scholarship has also hurt.  There are a lot of good in state students in that 27-31 ACT range that can't get any money at Arkansas so they go elsewhere.
It's 7 years ago for us so I don't think about it anymore but this is interesting info. Explains a lot. I won't get into specifics of what my son accomplished academically in HS but suffice it to say he was a national merit finalist/winner and got an AP award for his scores on 5 AP exams. Anyway, what he did was good enough to get a full scholarship at OU, Miss St, Alabama and Auburn. Got him about 80% scholarship at SMU and that is where he went. Arkansas gave him in-state tuition and $10K/yr leaving us to pay something around $4 or $5K annually. Miss St, Alabama and Auburn gave out full ride plus a stipend and it was all laid out in a 1 page letter he automatically got from those 3 schools when he was named a national merit finalist. We never had any contact with those schools and never did go visit since he was not interested in attending any of the 3. Our visit at Arkansas was underwhelming and they did not seem to be that interested in him.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 05:07:40 pm
They can however, strongly recommend to the Chancellor that he fire Long.

They can also terminate the Chancellor if he refuses to comply.

I don't see the latter of the 2 happening.

This is correct.  If a recommendation to fire is made, the person that's responsible to do that job better snap to it.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: oldhawg on November 09, 2017, 05:18:39 pm
It's 7 years ago for us so I don't think about it anymore but this is interesting info. Explains a lot. I won't get into specifics of what my son accomplished academically in HS but suffice it to say he was a national merit finalist/winner and got an AP award for his scores on 5 AP exams. Anyway, what he did was good enough to get a full scholarship at OU, Miss St, Alabama and Auburn. Got him about 80% scholarship at SMU and that is where he went. Arkansas gave him in-state tuition and $10K/yr leaving us to pay something around $4 or $5K annually. Miss St, Alabama and Auburn gave out full ride plus a stipend and it was all laid out in a 1 page letter he automatically got from those 3 schools when he was named a national merit finalist. We never had any contact with those schools and never did go visit since he was not interested in attending any of the 3. Our visit at Arkansas was underwhelming and they did not seem to be that interested in him.

Seems as though I recall mentioning to you some years back that SMU was not a bad choice for your son.  Likewise, my daughter was offered a similar deal, but opted for TCU (same financial support).
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 05:20:03 pm
With the exception of Vanderbilt, none of the SEC schools are thought if as academic powerhouses.  Some are actually pretty good, like Florida, but that isn’t their draw.

For every single SEC school besides Vanderbilt and Kentucky (basketball) the football program is the most visible and important marketing tool.  Being respectable on the field actually is really important to the school as a whole.

This is SO true and few actually understand that fact.  A good to great football program does more for academics and bringing in the $$$$ that just about anything else one can think of, especially in the SEC.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 05:22:46 pm
Hate to say this because I would love to have information concerning the status of Hog FB, but I think most will be saddened today because I don’t think some big public announcement will be made today.  Let the “my source” post begin after we hear nothing after these meetings.

It should be clear that no BIG announcement will be made today.  That's just not how these things go.  BUT, a decision on the announcement might very well come out of this meeting.  All the ducks must be lined up...
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on November 09, 2017, 05:28:19 pm
With the exception of Vanderbilt, none of the SEC schools are thought if as academic powerhouses.  Some are actually pretty good, like Florida, but that isn’t their draw.

For every single SEC school besides Vanderbilt and Kentucky (basketball) the football program is the most visible and important marketing tool.  Being respectable on the field actually is really important to the school as a whole.

Probably depends on your major...UGa, Auburn, UA, and aTm have the best poultry science departments in the world.  (And, MSU is top notch as well.)
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 05:28:37 pm
https://twitter.com/TyThomason/status/928682150991417345

Now JL is using an app to find his balls.

Sorry but no app can help him do that if there are no balls to find.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 09, 2017, 05:30:36 pm
Word on the street is that they made Long drink a Coke with peanuts in it.   He wept.

What, no moon pie?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Jimbob111 on November 09, 2017, 05:53:36 pm
Actually, from 1990-1997, the Almighty Frank oversaw the historic rate you refer.  Carry on.

5 of the 8 seasons with a losing record.

But please compare the losses. How many were 50 something to 3 blow outs? How many worse most yards given up by an Arkansas defense?

Losing sucks but losing at epic proportions is different.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: AP85 on November 09, 2017, 05:59:01 pm
So. 8 pages of horse dung I’m not reading.


He must have been fired and so is B.B. 

Worked too hard today to care.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DOGALUM on November 09, 2017, 06:05:53 pm
Nobody fired.  Nobody even in executive session.  (Not Long anyway)
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: Skandar Jackson on November 09, 2017, 06:33:16 pm
Nobody fired.  Nobody even in executive session.  (Not Long anyway)

Well was he in executive session or not?
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DOGALUM on November 09, 2017, 11:25:51 pm
Well was he in executive session or not?
no.  Jeff Long was NOT in the executive session.   
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: MikePiazza on November 09, 2017, 11:30:35 pm
no.  Jeff Long was NOT in the executive session.

The executive session was to discuss why he will no longer be the AD sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: DOGALUM on November 09, 2017, 11:37:31 pm
The executive session was to discuss why he will no longer be the AD sooner rather than later.
i get it.  Just clarifying that he was not in there.....contrary to the title of the thread.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HoginMemphis on November 10, 2017, 01:27:08 am
Seems as though I recall mentioning to you some years back that SMU was not a bad choice for your son.  Likewise, my daughter was offered a similar deal, but opted for TCU (same financial support).
Yeah, it worked out for him. Got a very nice job in Dallas after school. Earned 2 degrees in 8 semesters and cum laude grad with bit over a 3.7 gpa. Won the highest award the Econ dept gives out and he was there for the engineering school!
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: HogFoo on November 10, 2017, 09:07:49 am
My source said he was gonna be first to go, so perhaps, here we gooooooooooo...
people got mad yesterday when anyone said anything.  And then no one got fired publicly.  I was just passing on what a friend had told me when I shared a text,  and what had happened at AtM game.  Well, I didn't share everything that happened, but it wasn't good for Long. Haven't spoke to my friend since his text yesterday about it. So, not sure what details are yet.  I'll sure be reluctant to share any info about it in the future tho.
     
My personal opinion is, just because nothing was done publicly about Long yesterday, doesn't mean that plans aren't or weren't put in place for Long to be let go, step down, resign, fired,  or "finds another job" at end of season, etc,.  So, really any "source" saying Long might have been gone, or fired  and it didnt publicly happen yesterday really means nothing. Doesn't mean that what they heard wasn't true per say, just means that nothing was announced publicly.  We'll see tho. I know it sure makes anyone with any info reluctant to say anything when people attack them for just sharing any tidbits.

Again, we'll see. I'm not worried about it.  Especially if we get a good guy like Norvell to run the football team next season.
Title: Re: JL in executive session now
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on November 10, 2017, 09:27:33 am
people got mad yesterday when anyone said anything.  And then no one got fired publicly.  I was just passing on what a friend had told me when I shared a text,  and what had happened at AtM game.  Well, I didn't share everything that happened, but it wasn't good for Long. Haven't spoke to my friend since his text yesterday about it. So, not sure what details are yet.  I'll sure be reluctant to share any info about it in the future tho.
     
My personal opinion is, just because nothing was done publicly about Long yesterday, doesn't mean that plans aren't or weren't put in place for Long to be let go, step down, resign, fired,  or "finds another job" at end of season, etc,.  So, really any "source" saying Long might have been gone, or fired  and it didnt publicly happen yesterday really means nothing. Doesn't mean that what they heard wasn't true per say, just means that nothing was announced publicly.  We'll see tho. I know it sure makes anyone with any info reluctant to say anything when people attack them for just sharing any tidbits.

Again, we'll see. I'm not worried about it.  Especially if we get a good guy like Norvell to run the football team next season.
I appreciate any information brought to the board. When people come on here with information it's up to the individual to decide if it is reliable or not.People come here for clamoring for info and when someone brings it they ridicule and belittle them to no end. I don't understand it. Anyone that has information or rumors they've heard can PM me with it. I can keep a secret(as many on here can attest) and I won't ridicule you if it doesn't come to pass.