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Title: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: moses_007 on November 07, 2017, 03:17:50 am
Wow, the Tide appears to be in NCAA trouble.......

http://start.att.net/news/read/article/sporting_news-players_from_alabamas_2009_national_championship_p-rspnews
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: FANONTHEHILL on November 07, 2017, 04:59:06 am
Alabama doesn’t get in NCAA trouble.  The NCAA gets in Alabama trouble.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Pork Twain on November 07, 2017, 05:04:44 am
So far what is being reported is pocket change for selling autographs.  Nothing happened to Ohio St for worse.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on November 07, 2017, 05:08:13 am
Alabama, who IS a 'win at all cost' program and does it better than anyone else is about as worried as a coupling of bald eagles with a nest on the cliffs of the Arkansas River with fish hitting the top water all year long. IOW, nothing is going to happen to Alabama, ever again as long as the 'little general' is in charge at the Capstone.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: commonnonsense on November 07, 2017, 05:10:11 am
Old Mrs will lose a few more scholarships and have another year of probation over this
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: IronHog on November 07, 2017, 06:12:39 am
Best steroid program in professional sports
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Porkchop#1 on November 07, 2017, 06:15:51 am
Commissioner Sly had a good chuckle over this one.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: longtimeHogfan on November 07, 2017, 06:41:59 am
It was reported that the NCAA was so PO'd with Alabama they stuck Middle Tennessee St. U. with a two year suspension. 
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Kevin on November 07, 2017, 06:43:07 am
Alabama is as worried as unc basketball was
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: root_hawg on November 07, 2017, 06:45:29 am
Read the article, one player $400, one $200 no smoking gun here.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: hoggusamoungus on November 07, 2017, 06:47:34 am
So far what is being reported is pocket change for selling autographs.  Nothing happened to Ohio St for worse.

Isn't that why Tressell ultimately lost his job or was that over something else?
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: HardCore on November 07, 2017, 06:48:30 am
Alabama could give recruits $1M in travel expenses for campus visits, hire 500 of the best call girls, give out Corvette Grand Sport convertibles, give the recruit’s parents $100K jobs sweeping the city park, have the professors take the tests for the kids classes and not a damn thing thing would happen.

But, if we have a trucking company pay offseason players $10/hr vs $8/hr, we get nailed to the crucifix
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: onebadrubi on November 07, 2017, 06:54:18 am
Best steroid program in professional sports

I'm shocked this isn't mentioned more...   possibly a futures 30 for 30
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: onebadrubi on November 07, 2017, 06:55:23 am
Isn't that why Tressell ultimately lost his job or was that over something else?

A lot more to the tressell story
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Amityvillehogger on November 07, 2017, 07:40:06 am
Alabama could give recruits $1M in travel expenses for campus visits, hire 500 of the best call girls, give out Corvette Grand Sport convertibles, give the recruit’s parents $100K jobs sweeping the city park, have the professors take the tests for the kids classes and not a damn thing thing would happen.

But, if we have a trucking company pay offseason players $10/hr vs $8/hr, we get nailed to the crucifix

If they didn't hammer Ole Miss... nothing is gonna happen. NCAA has no nuts. That's why the FBI is having to clean up basketball. As long as the NCAA is making money, they will turn a blind eye.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: LRRandy on November 07, 2017, 07:48:16 am
So far what is being reported is pocket change for selling autographs.  Nothing happened to Ohio St for worse.
I would disagree. The bowl ban following "tatgate" cost Ohio State the opportunity to play Notre Dame for the national championship. Under the BCS format an undefeated Notre Dame would have played an undefeated Ohio State at the end of the 2012 season leaving a one loss Alabama out. I would say a lot happened.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: ricepig on November 07, 2017, 07:50:43 am
Alabama doesn’t get in NCAA trouble.  The NCAA gets in Alabama trouble.

This☝
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: LRRandy on November 07, 2017, 07:51:54 am
A lot more to the tressell story
the cover up was worse than the crime. That cost Tressell his job.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: PonderinHog on November 07, 2017, 07:59:01 am
Well, it sounds like UAB may have to drop football again...

(Do they even have a football program ??? )
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: ricepig on November 07, 2017, 08:00:16 am
Well, it sounds like UAB may have to drop football again...

(Do they even have a football program ??? )

Unlike us, they're bowl eligible and looking forward to the Birmingham Bowl.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Hoggish1 on November 07, 2017, 08:16:14 am
Alabama doesn’t get in NCAA trouble.  The NCAA gets in Alabama trouble.

Expect who ever wrote that for the Sporting News to be fired. That 'll teach 'em to write about Bama that way...
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: ricepig on November 07, 2017, 08:32:24 am
Expect who ever wrote that for the Sporting News to be fired. That 'll teach 'em to write about Bama that way...

The original article was from SI, I think the swimsuit issue is the only one that they publish that isn't made up of falsies........or at least those look good.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: 3kgthog on November 07, 2017, 08:40:07 am
Alabama could give recruits $1M in travel expenses for campus visits, hire 500 of the best call girls, give out Corvette Grand Sport convertibles, give the recruit’s parents $100K jobs sweeping the city park, have the professors take the tests for the kids classes and not a damn thing thing would happen.

But, if we have a trucking company pay offseason players $10/hr vs $8/hr, we get nailed to the crucifix

Well, they do give out Dodge Challengers, so there is that.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on November 07, 2017, 08:47:29 am
Alabama, who IS a 'win at all cost' program and does it better than anyone else is about as worried as a coupling of bald eagles with a nest on the cliffs of the Arkansas River with fish hitting the top water all year long. IOW, nothing is going to happen to Alabama, ever again as long as the 'little general' is in charge at the Capstone.

 I'm pretty sure if there were any instances of impropriety within the Alabama program that they would have occurred prior to Natty #3 for Saban. There's absolutely no need for cheating with the system they have in place. This appears true, but also looks like the issue is a few dumbasses who just wanted to get paid, and an unaffiliated parasite looking to make bank on memorabilia...
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: NaturalStateReb on November 07, 2017, 08:56:48 am
Alabama doesn’t get in NCAA trouble.  The NCAA gets in Alabama trouble.

Exactly.  Alabama getting in NCAA trouble is unpossible.  You don't attack the moneymakers.  Just ask North Carolina.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: hawganatic on November 07, 2017, 09:11:59 am
Isn't that why Tressell ultimately lost his job or was that over something else?

Tressel got for lying and the cover up, not the actual act.  Really doubt Saban knew anything about this at the time.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Torqued pork on November 07, 2017, 09:26:27 am
Alabama doesn’t get in NCAA trouble.  The NCAA gets in Alabama trouble.
True, and it would be prudent for the writer to get in the FBI relocation program ASAP.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Großer Kriegschwein on November 07, 2017, 09:30:00 am
Alabama is the Jack Bauer of college football.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Airforcehawg on November 07, 2017, 09:43:17 am
Bama will never get in trouble. There are tons of articles about players taking money and cars while they were there and nothing comes of it. When there are articles about Bama players taking cars with pictures to prove...Ha Ha Clinton-Dix in front of a 70K Charger, D.J. Flucker on front of his Caddy...both with custom tags and nothing happens, or the Tux Shop that paid Ingram and Richardson and nothing happens, or Flucker admitting on record that he among other took cash and nothing happened...nothing with happen. Bama is to big to fail and/or Saban has dirt on the right people.


http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/why-do-so-many-alabama-crimson-tide-football-players-drive-nice-cars
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on November 07, 2017, 09:47:09 am
Bama will never get in trouble. There are tons of articles about players taking money and cars while they were and nothing comes of it. When there are articles about Bama players taking cars with pictures to prove...Ha Ha Clinton-Dix in front of a 70K Charger, D.J. Flucker on front of his Caddy...both with custom tags and nothing happens, or the Tux Shop that paid Ingram and Richardson and nothing happens, or Flucker admitting on record that he among other took cash and nothing happened...nothing with happen. Bama is to big to fail and/or Saban has dirt on the right people.


http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/why-do-so-many-alabama-crimson-tide-football-players-drive-nice-cars

 If that's a proper way to spell Fluker then I'm gonna change my name to Krazy Flucker like yesterday.!
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: root_hawg on November 07, 2017, 10:33:11 am
Remember also one of the guys making the claim is the guy who I believe went to prison for fake memorabila
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: onebadrubi on November 07, 2017, 01:30:21 pm
Bama will never get in trouble. There are tons of articles about players taking money and cars while they were and nothing comes of it. When there are articles about Bama players taking cars with pictures to prove...Ha Ha Clinton-Dix in front of a 70K Charger, D.J. Flucker on front of his Caddy...both with custom tags and nothing happens, or the Tux Shop that paid Ingram and Richardson and nothing happens, or Flucker admitting on record that he among other took cash and nothing happened...nothing with happen. Bama is to big to fail and/or Saban has dirt on the right people.


http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/why-do-so-many-alabama-crimson-tide-football-players-drive-nice-cars

Not to mention the unlimited failed drug test they allow
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Paul on November 07, 2017, 02:19:27 pm
If they didn't hammer Ole Miss... nothing is gonna happen. NCAA has no nuts. That's why the FBI is having to clean up basketball. As long as the NCAA is making money, they will turn a blind eye.
  The NCAA will absolutely hammer Ole Miss because they had the audacity to cheat like Bama & then beat them at their own game 2 years in a row
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: DeltaBoy on November 07, 2017, 02:22:03 pm
Alabama doesn’t get in NCAA trouble.  The NCAA gets in Alabama trouble.

Nothing will happen .
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Sed76 on November 07, 2017, 02:37:59 pm
A few years after Saban is gone and the next coach is getting hammered from every direction for not winning enough all the dirt will come out. They won't do jack as long as St. Nick is roaming the sideline.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: LRHawg on November 07, 2017, 02:51:31 pm
Alabama doesn’t get in NCAA trouble.  The NCAA gets in Alabama trouble.

Truth.

 
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Pork Twain on November 07, 2017, 09:14:58 pm
Isn't that why Tressell ultimately lost his job or was that over something else?
It was much more and he tried to cover it up.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: jkstock04 on November 07, 2017, 09:17:40 pm
Wow, the Tide appears to be in NCAA trouble.......

http://start.att.net/news/read/article/sporting_news-players_from_alabamas_2009_national_championship_p-rspnews
Sounds like chump change. Nobody will bat an eye over this.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: TM Hog on November 07, 2017, 09:37:41 pm
I’m totally confident that absolutely nothing will happen to Bama.
Now South Alabama U. better look out! They will probably get the death penalty for this. Lol
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 07, 2017, 10:35:13 pm
A few years after Saban is gone and the next coach is getting hammered from every direction for not winning enough all the dirt will come out. They won't do jack as long as St. Nick is roaming the sideline.

May be another Southern Cal type of a situation over at Tuscaloosa.  There is a lot of parity in college football, and when a "dynasty" happens, then there is a good chance that something shady/NCAA illegal was going on that helped create the dynasty.

Clemson's NC is probably the only clean NC of the recent NCs won.  Highly doubtful the recent Alabama NCs, the recent Auburn NC, the recent Florida State NC, and the recent Ohio State were clean.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Arkansas Fan on November 07, 2017, 10:41:48 pm
May be another Southern Cal type of a situation over at Tuscaloosa.  There is a lot of parity in college football, and when a "dynasty" happens, then there is a good chance that something shady/NCAA illegal was going on that helped create the dynasty.

Clemson's NC is probably the only clean NC of the recent NCs won.  Highly doubtful the recent Alabama NCs, the recent Auburn NC, the recent Florida State NC, and the recent Ohio State were clean.

Of course you would say Clemson's is the only clean one.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 07, 2017, 10:48:53 pm
Of course you would say Clemson's is the only clean one.

Well, you have the information about Alabama (autograph pay-outs, and Dodge Chargers)

There is all of the information about Jameis Winston while he was at Florida State (the cover-up so that he could keep on playing).

There is the Cam Newton aspect at Auburn.

Urban Meyer is known to not run the most clean program.

As far as I know, there hasn't been any shady information come out about Clemson.  Dabo Swinney would not allow that type of stuff to go on in his football program.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: Paul on November 07, 2017, 10:52:27 pm
Well, you have the information about Alabama (autograph pay-outs, and Dodge Chargers)

There is all of the information about Jameis Winston while he was at Florida State (the cover-up so that he could keep on playing).

There is the Cam Newton aspect at Auburn.

Urban Meyer is known to not run the most clean program.

As far as I know, there hasn't been any shady information come out about Clemson.  Dabo Swinney would not allow that type of stuff to go on in his football program.
ok sure
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: hobhog on November 07, 2017, 10:58:29 pm
Sabah will just tell reporters they are rat poison and they will cry and run away.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: GoHogs1091 on November 07, 2017, 10:58:51 pm
ok sure

Clemson doesn't have to do that stuff.

Swinney is regarded as a master recruiter.

Brent Venables is probably a top 10 recruiter in the nation.

Tony Elliott is probably a top 15 recruiter in the nation.

Jeff Scott is probably a top 15 recruiter in the nation.

Those other programs (Alabama, Auburn, Florida State, and Ohio State) have to resort to shady stuff in order to overcome recruiting deficiencies in their coaching staff who are recruiting.
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: hotdog hog on November 07, 2017, 11:11:05 pm
It was reported that the NCAA was so PO'd with Alabama they stuck Middle Tennessee St. U. with a two year suspension.
lmao
Title: Re: Alabama in NCAA Trouble?
Post by: LRRandy on November 08, 2017, 08:07:37 am
Clemson doesn't have to do that stuff.

Swinney is regarded as a master recruiter.

Brent Venables is probably a top 10 recruiter in the nation.

Tony Elliott is probably a top 15 recruiter in the nation.

Jeff Scott is probably a top 15 recruiter in the nation.

Those other programs (Alabama, Auburn, Florida State, and Ohio State) have to resort to shady stuff in order to overcome recruiting deficiencies in their coaching staff who are recruiting.
care to expand on that? While Clemson has recruited at a high level lately, you are saying that the schools that recruit a little better than they do only do so because of "shady stuff". Curious as to what that stuff is.