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RB Sports Discussion => SEC Sports => Topic started by: WizardofhOgZ on October 06, 2017, 11:09:41 am

Title: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: WizardofhOgZ on October 06, 2017, 11:09:41 am

Shows us winning by 4-5 points.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/#New_Feature
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: PorkRinds on October 06, 2017, 11:10:50 am
If CBB loses this game heís done here. Not now, but in all reality he wonít come back from a loss in this game.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: jgphillips3 on October 06, 2017, 11:15:55 am
I think weíll probably win.  South Carolina is just as bad as we are but Muschamp makes Bielema look like Saban by Comparison so...
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: HF#1 on October 06, 2017, 11:52:17 am
If CBB loses this game heís done here. Not now, but in all reality he wonít come back from a loss in this game.

Rarely does a coach's job actually live and die with one game. If he loses this game but finds a way to dethrone Bama, they gonna fire him? Not to mention his buyout. If Jeff Long has proven anything, he is willing to stay the course as long as he can.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Mo_Better_Hogs on October 06, 2017, 11:56:40 am
One thing a team has to do is beat the people they're SUPPOSED TO beat. It's a basic 'taking care of business' mentality. Then, it's win a few borderline games, then maybe one you shouldn't win. (But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.)
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: PorkRinds on October 06, 2017, 11:59:33 am
Rarely does a coach's job actually live and die with one game. If he loses this game but finds a way to dethrone Bama, they gonna fire him? Not to mention his buyout. If Jeff Long has proven anything, he is willing to stay the course as long as he can.
You missed my point. I even said not now.  My point was that if he canít win this game, itís likely never going to happen here.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: HF#1 on October 06, 2017, 12:00:39 pm
You missed my point. I even said not now.  My point was that if he canít win this game, itís likely never going to happen here.
I gotcha, my bad. I came to the conclusion against Mizzou last season that it was never going to happen here.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on October 06, 2017, 12:20:57 pm
You missed my point. I even said not now.  My point was that if he canít win this game, itís likely never going to happen here.

I agree.  Similar to A$M game...if he wasn't beating them this year, then he's never beating them. 
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: King Kong on October 06, 2017, 12:41:59 pm
This game feels very similar to UT game 2 years ago to me.

Big road game against similar talented teams. Us coming of a disappointing start. Needing this game to prevent a meltdown down the stretch.

Hopefully, we can pull this one out as well
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Corkscrew Johnson on October 06, 2017, 12:44:09 pm
You guys can't see the forest for the tree.  If we win or lose the South Carolina game?   The Missouri game?  Dudes, we have an athletic director who proclaims himself a marketing guru, but has us wearing the ugliest uniforms since the Greek Evzones battled the Turks in the 1830s.  If you can't get uniforms right, how can you be relied upon to hire a great coach in this hyper-competitive landscape?  Bielema is who he is, that's irrelevant. 
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 06, 2017, 12:55:35 pm
You guys can't see the forest for the tree.  If we win or lose the South Carolina game?   The Missouri game?  Dudes, we have an athletic director who proclaims himself a marketing guru, but has us wearing the ugliest uniforms since the Greek Evzones battled the Turks in the 1830s.  If you can't get uniforms right, how can you be relied upon to hire a great coach in this hyper-competitive landscape?  Bielema is who he is, that's irrelevant.
So.......you're real concern is about the "ugliest uniforms since the Greek Evzones battled the Turks in the 1830s" ???

First of all, I have it on very good and reliable authority the Greeks were actually "pumped" about their threads. In fact, their team captains voted for such, as well as did the entire army. They felt it gave them a distinct edge over the Turks when the latter were totally bedazzled and speechless over their garb.

Secondly, you're saying uniforms, ugly or not, are a major reason we lost those games ???You're saying that whatever we wear really makes that much of a difference in our efforts and performances ???  You're saying that actually has anything to do with the AD's abilities/lack thereof ??? ::)

And for us not seeing the "forest for the trees" I have one interesting suggestion. You step away from one product of the trees-turpentine-by stopping the daily sniffing of such and get yourself checked into a good rehab center. I'm sure there are some HV members who could give you some good recommendations ;) :D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: JIHawg on October 06, 2017, 01:04:45 pm
Rarely does a coach's job actually live and die with one game. If he loses this game but finds a way to dethrone Bama, they gonna fire him? Not to mention his buyout. If Jeff Long has proven anything, he is willing to stay the course as long as he can.

Jack Crow says hi.  :)
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: RazorPiggie on October 06, 2017, 01:07:39 pm
This game feels very similar to UT game 2 years ago to me.

Big road game against similar talented teams. Us coming of a disappointing start. Needing this game to prevent a meltdown down the stretch.

Hopefully, we can pull this one out as well

I think so too.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: GuvHog on October 06, 2017, 01:16:13 pm
Jack Crow says hi.  :)

Jeff Long isn't Frank Broyles by any stretch of the imagination and I don't mean that in a good way when it comes to Jeff Long.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: sowmonella on October 06, 2017, 03:55:05 pm
I've never liked the Turks unis.  Cheesy.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Al Boarland on October 06, 2017, 04:09:32 pm
One thing a team has to do is beat the people they're SUPPOSED TO beat. It's a basic 'taking care of business' mentality. Then, it's win a few borderline games, then maybe one you shouldn't win. (But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.)

Uh, itís basically a toss up game. Could go either way.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Locutus_of_Boar on October 06, 2017, 04:36:43 pm
Jeff Long isn't Frank Broyles by any stretch of the imagination and I don't mean that in a good way when it comes to Jeff Long.

Uh-huh.  Frank at least gave Jack his one game.  Jeff ran Hootie before he was officially AD and canned Bobby for a traffic accident.  Nutt isn't on Long's account but CBP was even though he wasn't fired for on field performance.

Long's calculus is not about this win or that loss but rather it's about his own career longevity.  Every AD has a limited number of coach firings in his career on the Hill.  Frank had the most at four before he got himself boxed in with Nutt.  Long is on number 2 and when, not if, he pulls the plug on CBB his job figures t be riding on the success of #3.

Tomorrow won't get CBB relived but it could well put him on a path where Long can't salvage another year before Long has to make his own make-or-break hire.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: tusked on October 06, 2017, 04:44:50 pm
Jack Crow says hi.  :)

Well that was when the UA cared about winning football games.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 06, 2017, 04:49:58 pm
I've never liked the Turks unis.  Cheesy.
Well then you need to thrash this out with Corkscrew. I got the distinct impression with those snide remarks he made about the Greek outfits that he was most definitely more enthralled with the Turk duds. Perhaps it has to do with his apparent love of their fez.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Deep Shoat on October 06, 2017, 05:28:28 pm
Uh, itís basically a toss up game. Could go either way.
Not according to Vegas insiders.  They see it as a 7-10 point Hog win.

"Take the Hogs and the points" is all I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Porkchop#1 on October 06, 2017, 05:31:38 pm
I think weíll probably win.  South Carolina is just as bad as we are but Muschamp makes Bielema look like Saban by Comparison so...
Wowzie!!  You really think Muskchump is thaaaaat bad?   Good grief!
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Hog N Bama on October 06, 2017, 06:26:25 pm
You guys can't see the forest for the tree.  If we win or lose the South Carolina game?   The Missouri game?  Dudes, we have an athletic director who proclaims himself a marketing guru, but has us wearing the ugliest uniforms since the Greek Evzones battled the Turks in the 1830s.  If you can't get uniforms right, how can you be relied upon to hire a great coach in this hyper-competitive landscape?  Bielema is who he is, that's irrelevant.
We have an AD that sees everything but winning ball games is important
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Calling All Hogs on October 06, 2017, 06:33:15 pm
Dudes, we have an athletic director who proclaims himself a marketing guru, but has us wearing the ugliest uniforms since the Greek Evzones battled the Turks in the 1830s.
Joey, have you ever been in.....a Turkish prison?
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 06, 2017, 06:36:48 pm
Joey, have you ever been in.....a Turkish prison?
Surely you jest......and don't call me Shirley.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: hassettsportsman on October 06, 2017, 07:28:03 pm
Another OT game and we win by a FG! And we should be wearing the 64 uniforms...not grey not black not kamikaze cowboy!
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 06, 2017, 07:35:02 pm
If CBB loses this game heís done here. Not now, but in all reality he wonít come back from a loss in this game.

I think I'm gonna report this post as I think your account may have been hacked.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: BigE_23 on October 06, 2017, 07:44:10 pm
If CBB loses this game heís done here. Not now, but in all reality he wonít come back from a loss in this game.
I agree and it's what I said in a different thread...http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=638889.0

Losing this game would likely start a domino effect that results in a disastrous season. There's a lot riding on this one for Bert.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: LZH on October 06, 2017, 07:48:54 pm
 Maybe that is why they call it bipolar, because I have this weird feeling that we are either going to whip their ass or get the living hell beat out of us.
Title: Re: Sagarin prediction for our game with S. Car
Post by: Al Boarland on October 07, 2017, 05:24:54 pm
Not according to Vegas insiders.  They see it as a 7-10 point Hog win.

"Take the Hogs and the points" is all I'm hearing.
Is that right?