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Title: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: forrest city joe on October 03, 2017, 03:20:19 pm
Quoted from Mike Anderson. we might not get some kids because of that. But I can go to sleep at night. we all better be thankful for Mike. he runs a clean program,and he still wins. look at the cheating this man has been up against. he been trying to beat 4 and 5 stars others cheat to get,with his 3 and a few 4 stars. it's a wonder he has done as well as he has.i so love Mike as our head coach.GO HOGS.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: FineAsSwine on October 03, 2017, 04:04:31 pm
Quoted from Mike Anderson. we might not get some kids because of that. But I can go to sleep at night. we all better be thankful for Mike. he runs a clean program,and he still wins. look at the cheating this man has been up against. he been trying to beat 4 and 5 stars others cheat to get,with his 3 and a few 4 stars. it's a wonder he has done as well as he has.i so love Mike as our head coach.GO HOGS.

QFT
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogsanity on October 03, 2017, 04:25:49 pm

.i so love Mike as our head coach.GO HOGS.


Really? I don't think we have ever heard that from you before.

And before you start, go look at my posts and you will see I have said MANY TIMES there has never been a hint of scandal around Mike Anderson, and that is a very good thing.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: ShadowHawg on October 03, 2017, 04:38:45 pm
Really? I don't think we have ever heard that from you before.

And before you start, go look at my posts and you will see I have said MANY TIMES there has never been a hint of scandal around Mike Anderson, and that is a very good thing.

What's your problem? The guy is happy about the coach being clean and you harass him for it?
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogwood on October 03, 2017, 06:41:14 pm
"CMA; The Right Way!"
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: HoopS on October 03, 2017, 06:50:21 pm
What's your problem? The guy is happy about the coach being clean and you harass him for it?
par for the course. Somebody seems happy? Take a leak in their Cheerios is you get close enough.

Some people just suck in general.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: jdlew on October 03, 2017, 06:51:13 pm
The football coach also run a clean program....MA and BB need to win more than they have thus far....
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Knot2brite on October 03, 2017, 07:10:39 pm
CMA bought himself a couple years by taking his team to the dance last year. I still saw the same fundamental mistakes in last years team that I saw in his first team here so I am hoping that some things change since he got some better recruits this year and for next year. Some of the mistakes may have come from the fact that he was unable to get higher level recruits because he refused to cheat. If that is the case then when he gets better recruits those mistakes should be minimalized. I am glad he runs a clean program and would have been absolutely shocked if he had been involved in any cheating. I hope that the playing field will be leveled now and he is able to gather high ranking recruits.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on October 03, 2017, 07:20:05 pm
Quoted from Mike Anderson. we might not get some kids because of that. But I can go to sleep at night. we all better be thankful for Mike. he runs a clean program,and he still wins. look at the cheating this man has been up against. he been trying to beat 4 and 5 stars others cheat to get,with his 3 and a few 4 stars. it's a wonder he has done as well as he has.i so love Mike as our head coach.GO HOGS.
I am and have always been proud to have Mike at the HC at Arkansas.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Kevin on October 03, 2017, 07:56:56 pm
glad to hear cma speak out.

on to the season
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: theFlyingHog on October 03, 2017, 08:20:44 pm
Quoted from Mike Anderson. we might not get some kids because of that. But I can go to sleep at night. we all better be thankful for Mike. he runs a clean program,and he still wins. look at the cheating this man has been up against. he been trying to beat 4 and 5 stars others cheat to get,with his 3 and a few 4 stars. it's a wonder he has done as well as he has.i so love Mike as our head coach.GO HOGS.
Am I missing something? Is there a link to CMA saying something?
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: TomasPistola on October 03, 2017, 08:38:26 pm
Quoted from Mike Anderson. we might not get some kids because of that. But I can go to sleep at night. we all better be thankful for Mike. he runs a clean program,and he still wins. look at the cheating this man has been up against. he been trying to beat 4 and 5 stars others cheat to get,with his 3 and a few 4 stars. it's a wonder he has done as well as he has.i so love Mike as our head coach.GO HOGS.

Is there an actual quote somewhere or is Mike working on his ventriloquist act and FCJ is his big dummy?
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 03, 2017, 08:39:25 pm
The football coach also run a clean program....MA and BB need to win more than they have thus far....

^^^ this
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: BannerMountainMan on October 03, 2017, 08:59:03 pm
^^^ this
I believe 26, and 27 wins in 2 out of the last 3 seasons and these recruits coming in like crazy is a sign of being really good.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Hollywood_HOGan45 on October 03, 2017, 09:19:33 pm
Mike is doing it the right way AND winning.

Something I wish our football program could do.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: ricolacey on October 03, 2017, 09:55:28 pm
Quoted from Mike Anderson. we might not get some kids because of that. But I can go to sleep at night. we all better be thankful for Mike. he runs a clean program,and he still wins. look at the cheating this man has been up against. he been trying to beat 4 and 5 stars others cheat to get,with his 3 and a few 4 stars. it's a wonder he has done as well as he has.i so love Mike as our head coach.GO HOGS.

Comments: I'm with you100% Forrest city joe
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogwood on October 04, 2017, 04:51:44 am
Mike is doing it the right way AND winning.

Something I wish our football program could do.

X2

Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 04, 2017, 07:31:04 am
I believe 26, and 27 wins in 2 out of the last 3 seasons and these recruits coming in like crazy is a sign of being really good.
Guess we just have to disagree. Making the tourney twice in 6 years while never advancing past the opening weekend is not "really good". Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Uberanubis on October 04, 2017, 07:36:56 am
Guess we just have to disagree. Making the tourney twice in 6 years while never advancing past the opening weekend is not "really good". Go Hogs!

i don't care how you view it last year was  a screw job against NC and the refs kept us form advancing. not our coach or players
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 04, 2017, 09:17:28 am
i don't care how you view it last year was  a screw job against NC and the refs kept us form advancing. not our coach or players
Yeah, it was definitely stacked against us that game
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: ShadowHawg on October 04, 2017, 09:22:11 am
Guess we just have to disagree. Making the tourney twice in 6 years while never advancing past the opening weekend is not "really good". Go Hogs!

Razorback basketball has only won 26 or more games in a season on 10 occassions. It's happened twice in the last three seasons.

It's more absurd to try to make the claim that the basketball program and football programs are on similar trajectories than it is to say the basketball program is really good.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 04, 2017, 09:59:44 am
Razorback basketball has only won 26 or more games in a season on 10 occassions. It's happened twice in the last three seasons.

It's more absurd to try to make the claim that the basketball program and football programs are on similar trajectories than it is to say the basketball program is really good.
I'm not sure where that claim was ever made. The football program is on shaky ground right now . I agreed with the post that both BB and CMA need to win more. As a fan, I would hope that you would agree. Go Hogs
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Little Lady Back on October 04, 2017, 10:17:20 am
Mike is doing it the right way AND winning.

Something I wish our football program could do.

X3
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogsanity on October 04, 2017, 10:46:05 am
Guess we just have to disagree. Making the tourney twice in 6 years while never advancing past the opening weekend is not "really good". Go Hogs!

They dont view the ncaat as the measuring stick for Mike, just w's and l's, even though all of college basketball uses the ncaat, making it or not and staying for at least 2 weekends as a measuring stick. Nope, for Mike just pile up some wins, and let the warm fuzzy memories of 1994 wash over everyone.

So Mike is at a disadvantage because he won't cheat, if so, good for him. But the football coach should be doing what even though his program appears to be clean too? That is the hypocrisy of the Mike Anderson PR crew here in jump ball. FCJ will come to mmqb and rail about BB being a failure, but 2 ncaat's in 6 years is a blazing success in basketball.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: The_Iceman on October 04, 2017, 11:13:39 am
They dont view the ncaat as the measuring stick for Mike, just w's and l's, even though all of college basketball uses the ncaat, making it or not and staying for at least 2 weekends as a measuring stick. Nope, for Mike just pile up some wins, and let the warm fuzzy memories of 1994 wash over everyone.

So Mike is at a disadvantage because he won't cheat, if so, good for him. But the football coach should be doing what even though his program appears to be clean too? That is the hypocrisy of the Mike Anderson PR crew here in jump ball. FCJ will come to mmqb and rail about BB being a failure, but 2 ncaat's in 6 years is a blazing success in basketball.

While I agree with a lot of what you said, I don't agree with the fact about "advancing past the first weekend." Mike has had an incredibly tough draw getting North Carolina each time. He isn't lucking into easy draws or winners of huge upsets (see Cuonzo Martin at Tenn).
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogsanity on October 04, 2017, 11:25:38 am
While I agree with a lot of what you said, I don't agree with the fact about "advancing past the first weekend." Mike has had an incredibly tough draw getting North Carolina each time. He isn't lucking into easy draws or winners of huge upsets (see Cuonzo Martin at Tenn).


I said that people use making the 2nd weekend as a measuring stick. I have said here many times that once you get in it is all about draws, upsets etc. I will say though, Mike's teams have made their own draws. Last year would they have been a 8/9 if they had not lost to a putrid Mizzu, and Vandy and MSu AT HOME?

Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: ShadowHawg on October 04, 2017, 01:24:33 pm
I'm not sure where that claim was ever made. The football program is on shaky ground right now . I agreed with the post that both BB and CMA need to win more. As a fan, I would hope that you would agree. Go Hogs

I probably shouldn't have quoted you as the equivocation was made earlier in the thread.

I think the basketball program is ok. I mean if they continue to put up top 10 program win totals 2 of every 3 years how is that not at least "good"?

I think they have to start winning more tournament games to move into really good territory as someone else laid claim earlier in the thread.

But if winning is what matters, then there isn't a legit parallel to be drawn between the trajectories of the football and basketball programs.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Kevin on October 04, 2017, 03:04:47 pm
roy Williams is shocked. read what the former aau coach said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/roy-williams-amnesia-comes-college-basketballs-seedy-underworld-190415866.html
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: UNCLE BACK on October 04, 2017, 04:38:07 pm
Mike has been to Post Season 3 of 6 years and averaged just over 21 wins a year. I would have loved to see him make a couple more tournaments but Mike does it the right way and he doesn't run his mouth. Mike just works his A$$ off and keeps his mouth shut. I know for a fact that we have lost about 4 big time players because Mike was not willing to hand over a briefcase full of money. Anybody that wants to send me a PM, Ill tell you which kids and what happened. We Like Mike!
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: azhog10 on October 04, 2017, 04:47:18 pm
I said that people use making the 2nd weekend as a measuring stick. I have said here many times that once you get in it is all about draws, upsets etc. I will say though, Mike's teams have made their own draws. Last year would they have been a 8/9 if they had not lost to a putrid Mizzu, and Vandy and MSu AT HOME?
Maybe, especially if the beat Mizzou but lose to USCe on the road. There's always trade offs. WE lose games we should win at times, but then we go on the road and win a game that we probably shouldn't have. Those road wins mean way more than beating Mizzou. Vandy ended up being a tourney team, that we beat on the road as well.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: jdlew on October 04, 2017, 06:42:57 pm
How many ranked teams did we beat last year?



Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogwood on October 04, 2017, 08:53:32 pm
roy Williams is shocked. read what the former aau coach said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/roy-williams-amnesia-comes-college-basketballs-seedy-underworld-190415866.html

F'in Piggie! If he had spoke up he could've ended Roy Williams back then! We'd have been in the SW16 twice in the last 3 years! LOL
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 04, 2017, 09:12:05 pm
I probably shouldn't have quoted you as the equivocation was made earlier in the thread.

I think the basketball program is ok. I mean if they continue to put up top 10 program win totals 2 of every 3 years how is that not at least "good"?

I think they have to start winning more tournament games to move into really good territory as someone else laid claim earlier in the thread.

But if winning is what matters, then there isn't a legit parallel to be drawn between the trajectories of the football and basketball programs.
Agreed!
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 04, 2017, 09:13:59 pm
roy Williams is shocked. read what the former aau coach said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/roy-williams-amnesia-comes-college-basketballs-seedy-underworld-190415866.html
Roy is reaching Cal and Pitino levels of sliminess these days
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: rtr on October 04, 2017, 10:34:30 pm
Really? I don't think we have ever heard that from you before.

And before you start, go look at my posts and you will see I have said MANY TIMES there has never been a hint of scandal around Mike Anderson, and that is a very good thing.
You seem to hold the basketball program to a much higher standard than football. 
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: azhog10 on October 04, 2017, 11:51:14 pm
You seem to hold the basketball program to a much higher standard than football.
Yep, football making a bowl is better than making the NCAA tourney.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on October 05, 2017, 12:10:23 am
I'm not sure where that claim was ever made. The football program is on shaky ground right now . I agreed with the post that both BB and CMA need to win more. As a fan, I would hope that you would agree. Go Hogs

Yeah yeah yeah, MA needs to win every game. We get it.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 05, 2017, 06:40:30 am
Yeah yeah yeah, MA needs to win every game. We get it.
It appears you do not. Maybe my expectations are too high, but there is no reason why the BB team cannot be relevant again. Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: J-Five on October 05, 2017, 09:45:49 am
The football coach also run a clean program....MA and BB need to win more than they have thus far....


LOL
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: J-Five on October 05, 2017, 09:46:51 am
Guess we just have to disagree. Making the tourney twice in 6 years while never advancing past the opening weekend is not "really good". Go Hogs!


Smh
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: J-Five on October 05, 2017, 09:47:27 am
Razorback basketball has only won 26 or more games in a season on 10 occassions. It's happened twice in the last three seasons.

It's more absurd to try to make the claim that the basketball program and football programs are on similar trajectories than it is to say the basketball program is really good.


CONCUR
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: J-Five on October 05, 2017, 09:55:36 am
Looking forward to this basketball season...Preseason schedule will be more challenging than last year and I hope folks don't cry to fire Mike Anderson if they don't end the preseason undefeated (sarcasm).  I like the way this team looks on paper, hopefully they can make some noise this year and do some damage in the SEC Tournament as well as the Big Dance.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Youngsta71701 on October 05, 2017, 02:14:18 pm
Guess we just have to disagree. Making the tourney twice in 6 years while never advancing past the opening weekend is not "really good". Go Hogs!
6 years ago doesn't really matter at this point. What have you done for me lately. The basketball program is trending up. Period.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogsanity on October 05, 2017, 02:23:18 pm
6 years ago doesn't really matter at this point. What have you done for me lately. The basketball program is trending up. Period.

yet just two seasons ago, when they missed the post season you continually pointed out they were just off a ncaat appearance What have you done lately only applies if it fits your agenda to proclaim Mike the greatest basketball coach ever.

Yep, football making a bowl is better than making the NCAA tourney.

Better? No. Equivalent based on the sport? Yes. 
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: FineAsSwine on October 05, 2017, 02:44:38 pm
yet just two seasons ago, when they missed the post season you continually pointed out they were just off a ncaat appearance What have you done lately only applies if it fits your agenda to proclaim Mike the greatest basketball coach ever.

Pardon me but your CMA hate is really showing. Might want to tuck that in, this is a Razorback board.

Quote
Better? No. Equivalent based on the sport? Yes.

So you think going 6-6 and going to the Texas Bowl is the same as going to the NCAA tournament? You are really reaching. That's more like going to the CBI in basketball. Nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: azhog10 on October 05, 2017, 02:54:20 pm
yet just two seasons ago, when they missed the post season you continually pointed out they were just off a ncaat appearance What have you done lately only applies if it fits your agenda to proclaim Mike the greatest basketball coach ever.

Better? No. Equivalent based on the sport? Yes.
You are an idiot if you think they are the same based on the sport. No one with sense truly believes that.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: ShadowHawg on October 05, 2017, 04:08:53 pm
yet just two seasons ago, when they missed the post season you continually pointed out they were just off a ncaat appearance What have you done lately only applies if it fits your agenda to proclaim Mike the greatest basketball coach ever.

Better? No. Equivalent based on the sport? Yes.

Over 80 teams go to bowls. Only 40 something at large bids in basketball. There have been years nearly every team in the sec qualified for a bowl.

There is literally no argument for your stance on this.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: jchill on October 05, 2017, 11:12:37 pm
I hope Calapari gets exposed!
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 05, 2017, 11:47:56 pm
I hope Calapari gets exposed!
He'll just slime his way out of it as always
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 05, 2017, 11:53:14 pm
Considering where the program was when he got here (nonexistent), I really donít know how you can say that.  He has the Hogs relevant again and even though you donít appreciate it and think itís easy, making the Big Dance is a big deal!  Ask all the P5 coaches that didnít make it!
Pel cleaned up the APR so that was not an issue. 4-5 SEC teams making the tourney is the norm. Are we that far down the pecking order? Only KY and Florida (debateable) have a richer history than us. Making the tourney should not be magical,but an expectation every year
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 05, 2017, 11:54:45 pm

Smh
me too. Glad we agree
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: azhog10 on October 06, 2017, 09:07:06 am
Pel cleaned up the APR so that was not an issue.
I've seen this stated a number of times but it's so patently false. Pel was far from being above board and doing things the right way.......and he still lost.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on October 06, 2017, 09:15:28 am
"The APR is a four-year look at a teamís classroom performance and this yearís data covers the 2008-09 to 2011-12 academic years. Points are awarded for a scholarship athleteís retention and academic eligibility.

Improving Arkansas basketballís APR has been a lengthy and challenging process for a program hurt most by the single-year score of 755 from the 2007-08 academic year. The Razorbacks suffered a scholarship loss two years ago and consistently faced the possibility of other penalties like loss of practice time or postseason bans."

True. 

Where the APR may have hindered MA early is he couldn't turn the roster over to bring in his type of players.  But given it has taken to the end of season 6 or season 7 to begin to see his type of team, not sure how much difference it would have made. 
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: ShadowHawg on October 06, 2017, 09:15:40 am
Pel cleaned up the APR so that was not an issue. 4-5 SEC teams making the tourney is the norm. Are we that far down the pecking order? Only KY and Florida (debateable) have a richer history than us. Making the tourney should not be magical,but an expectation every year

In the DECADE prior to MA we only won 38% of our conference games. Only South Carolina and Auburn were worse.

Right now, that decade is still affecting the perception of the program outside the borders of this state. This season is critical, IMO, to changing that.

So yes, our program is that far down the pecking order in terms of perception.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: FineAsSwine on October 06, 2017, 09:50:45 am
Pel cleaned up the APR so that was not an issue. 4-5 SEC teams making the tourney is the norm. Are we that far down the pecking order? Only KY and Florida (debateable) have a richer history than us. Making the tourney should not be magical,but an expectation every year

Pretty sure a lot of delusional Cornhuskers fans feel they have a pretty rich history and therefore should be competing for a national championship, finishing in the top 10 every year and pulling in star studded recruiting classes just because that's the way things used to be.

Well, newsflash! That don't amount to a hill of beans. Cornhusker football should tell you all about just how much things can change for a once "storied" program and how success in the distant past has nothing to do with success in today's environment.

Thank God for CMA taking a huge career risk and coming here to help the school he loves. I am so glad he doesn't hold the ignorance of a few people against the rest of the fan base. He wants to be here. I love it and I am darned happy about it. I wish him all the success in the world against the cheating slime he has to fight on the recruiting trail and against the mercenary "student athletes" who will fight for the school that pays the most.

Some people even get mad when FCJ talks about his love for CMA doing things the right way and helping this program get back on its feet. Well, I got FCJ's back on this one.

Thank God for CMA! We got lucky and got a man of integrity. People said he was lazy and didn't know how to recruit and a whole bunch of other ugly and uninformed comments. Now, the FBI has vindicated our guys approach to recruiting when some ignoramuses on here wanted us to hire a bagman as a recruiter. I really wish some of you would root for another team.


Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Cinco de Hogo on October 06, 2017, 09:56:07 am
They dont view the ncaat as the measuring stick for Mike, just w's and l's, even though all of college basketball uses the ncaat, making it or not and staying for at least 2 weekends as a measuring stick. Nope, for Mike just pile up some wins, and let the warm fuzzy memories of 1994 wash over everyone.

So Mike is at a disadvantage because he won't cheat, if so, good for him. But the football coach should be doing what even though his program appears to be clean too? That is the hypocrisy of the Mike Anderson PR crew here in jump ball. FCJ will come to mmqb and rail about BB being a failure, but 2 ncaat's in 6 years is a blazing success in basketball.

Joe isn't the only one that does things like that, there's that guy named Hogsanity that come to Jump Ball....

In fact it's pretty common for folk who are more fans of one coach or team to do that.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Cinco de Hogo on October 06, 2017, 10:02:38 am
Pretty sure a lot of delusional Cornhuskers fans feel they have a pretty rich history and therefore should be competing for a national championship, finishing in the top 10 every year and pulling in star studded recruiting classes just because that's the way things used to be.

Well, newsflash! That don't amount to a hill of beans. Cornhusker football should tell you all about just how much things can change for a once "storied" program and how success in the distant past has nothing to do with success in today's environment.

Thank God for CMA taking a huge career risk and coming here to help the school he loves. I am so glad he doesn't hold the ignorance of a few people against the rest of the fan base. He wants to be here. I love it and I am darned happy about it. I wish him all the success in the world against the cheating slime he has to fight on the recruiting trail and against the mercenary "student athletes" who will fight for the school that pays the most.

Some people even get mad when FCJ talks about his love for CMA doing things the right way and helping this program get back on its feet. Well, I got FCJ's back on this one.

Thank God for CMA! We got lucky and got a man of integrity. People said he was lazy and didn't know how to recruit and a whole bunch of other ugly and uninformed comments. Now, the FBI has vindicated our guys approach to recruiting when some ignoramuses on here wanted us to hire a bagman as a recruiter. I really wish some of you would root for another team.

Don't disagree with you but one thing I would point out that different between Husker football and Arkansas basketball is, if you could get them all you could be nationally relevant in basketball just off Arkansas players.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: FineAsSwine on October 06, 2017, 10:08:15 am
Don't disagree with you but one thing I would point out that different between Husker football and Arkansas basketball is, if you could get them all you could be nationally relevant in basketball just off Arkansas players.

When CMA got here there wasn't nearly as much Arkansas talent to build a team off of, just one or maybe two really good targets a year. That talent level has quickly risen over the past few years in terms of depth and we are loading up.

CMA gets credit for making local kids see us as a destination spot. We missed on a few who made "business decisions" but other than that, CMA is knocking it out of the park with our local kids.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Little Lady Back on October 06, 2017, 11:06:11 am
Pretty sure a lot of delusional Cornhuskers fans feel they have a pretty rich history and therefore should be competing for a national championship, finishing in the top 10 every year and pulling in star studded recruiting classes just because that's the way things used to be.

Well, newsflash! That don't amount to a hill of beans. Cornhusker football should tell you all about just how much things can change for a once "storied" program and how success in the distant past has nothing to do with success in today's environment.

Thank God for CMA taking a huge career risk and coming here to help the school he loves. I am so glad he doesn't hold the ignorance of a few people against the rest of the fan base. He wants to be here. I love it and I am darned happy about it. I wish him all the success in the world against the cheating slime he has to fight on the recruiting trail and against the mercenary "student athletes" who will fight for the school that pays the most.

Some people even get mad when FCJ talks about his love for CMA doing things the right way and helping this program get back on its feet. Well, I got FCJ's back on this one.

Thank God for CMA! We got lucky and got a man of integrity. People said he was lazy and didn't know how to recruit and a whole bunch of other ugly and uninformed comments. Now, the FBI has vindicated our guys approach to recruiting when some ignoramuses on here wanted us to hire a bagman as a recruiter. I really wish some of you would root for another team.

Well said, Fine!
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: hogsanity on October 06, 2017, 11:10:28 am

 We got lucky and got a man of integrity.


Do you feel that way about the AD as well?
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: FineAsSwine on October 06, 2017, 11:27:18 am
Do you feel that way about the AD as well?

I think we did make a great hire with the AD. He got us Petrino which I think was a great coup but Petrino mucked that up. He got us a successful Big 10 coach who looked like a great fit at the time. CBB hasn't had the success we wanted to see on the field yet but I don't want to see a change there unless we just bottom out this year and I don't see that happening, especially in a weak SEC this year.

Jeff Long wants to win but he also wants to do it in a way that doesn't besmirch the reputation of the UA. I think he has a fiduciary duty to do things that way whether we fans like it or not. I'm not mad at Jeff, its hard to build a program quickly unless you have a lot of built in advantages or you break rules.

People talk a lot of smack about CBB not having the Oline ready to compete but Florida State and Jimbo Fisher have the same problem with a team loaded with all stars.

It takes longer to build at Arkansas. I've seen it play out over decades. I'm not a newby. Even if CBB doesn't get it done. I'm still good with JL.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: porkinsons disease on October 07, 2017, 07:15:01 pm
Pretty sure a lot of delusional Cornhuskers fans feel they have a pretty rich history and therefore should be competing for a national championship, finishing in the top 10 every year and pulling in star studded recruiting classes just because that's the way things used to be.

Well, newsflash! That don't amount to a hill of beans. Cornhusker football should tell you all about just how much things can change for a once "storied" program and how success in the distant past has nothing to do with success in today's environment.

Thank God for CMA taking a huge career risk and coming here to help the school he loves. I am so glad he doesn't hold the ignorance of a few people against the rest of the fan base. He wants to be here. I love it and I am darned happy about it. I wish him all the success in the world against the cheating slime he has to fight on the recruiting trail and against the mercenary "student athletes" who will fight for the school that pays the most.

Some people even get mad when FCJ talks about his love for CMA doing things the right way and helping this program get back on its feet. Well, I got FCJ's back on this one.

Thank God for CMA! We got lucky and got a man of integrity. People said he was lazy and didn't know how to recruit and a whole bunch of other ugly and uninformed comments. Now, the FBI has vindicated our guys approach to recruiting when some ignoramuses on here wanted us to hire a bagman as a recruiter. I really wish some of you would root for another team.



Not sure where anyone was expecting a national championship from a coach that sat next to a great coach 23 years ago. Some of us "ignorant" fans just would like to be in the conversation on selection sunday. So far, that has not happened more often than it has. It is what it is. Coach Anderson is a very nice man that has shown to have integrity. These days that seems to be more than enough.Go Hogs
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Slater on October 07, 2017, 07:29:37 pm
Really? I don't think we have ever heard that from you before.

And before you start, go look at my posts and you will see I have said MANY TIMES there has never been a hint of scandal around Mike Anderson, and that is a very good thing.

Some of us like winning the clean way, free of scandal, cheating, fraud. Why bash a real fan for liking CMA? 
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: LR_Matt on October 08, 2017, 03:37:09 pm
Heard MA's quote on the radio during commercial. On the next segment they were taking about beard and the counterfeit money then some other legal trouble of players. So, I'm confused, is he full of it or does he actually believe he's clean. I mean, if Calipari is responsible for Rose's SAT or whatever then CMA is responsible as well. 
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: ShadowHawg on October 08, 2017, 06:00:24 pm
Heard MA's quote on the radio during commercial. On the next segment they were taking about beard and the counterfeit money then some other legal trouble of players. So, I'm confused, is he full of it or does he actually believe he's clean. I mean, if Calipari is responsible for Rose's SAT or whatever then CMA is responsible as well.

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: azhog10 on October 08, 2017, 08:04:21 pm
Look, let's not get carried away with what Mike Anderson says. He's been blaming everybody but himself because he really doesn't have a successful program and he's been allowed to be at it too long. Aren't his people there via scholarships which are given for the players to come to play for Arkansas. So, do you think the fans just want to sit back and watch basketball players graduate without winning any conferences or  going on to play after season tournaments.?
Where have you been?
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: elksnort on October 11, 2017, 03:11:30 pm
Without reading anymore, I will say that CMA's team left me feeling much better about the basketball program by taking the eventual national champions down to the wire.

And yes, I was very critical of CMA. I think he has finally turned the program around. Barford and Macon could end up being his "revolutionary war heroes" if the winning continues.

Crossing this over the sports, I will say that basketball does not take as long or should not to build, but I really think CMA might have them in the right direction. As for CBB, I see zero hope that he is the answer.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: azhog10 on October 11, 2017, 03:24:35 pm
Remember the survey or thread that asked which program you had more confidence in? Overwhelming majority felt better about football. My how quick things have turned.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: elksnort on October 11, 2017, 03:47:17 pm
Remember the survey or thread that asked which program you had more confidence in? Overwhelming majority felt better about football. My how quick things have turned.
I agree with you. And I am "guilty" of having a perception change of this.

CMA has won at every one of his coaching stops. CBB'S product looks like garbage, in spite of having enough talent to at least to much better than they are doing.

And I will add that in basketball you get about 30 chances a year to show what you got. Of course with football, this number is around 12. So there's this.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: azhog10 on October 11, 2017, 04:36:02 pm
I agree with you. And I am "guilty" of having a perception change of this.

CMA has won at every one of his coaching stops. CBB'S product looks like garbage, in spite of having enough talent to at least to much better than they are doing.

And I will add that in basketball you get about 30 chances a year to show what you got. Of course with football, this number is around 12. So there's this.
Agree, you also get a week to prepare for each of those games. In basketball most times you are lucky if you get two days once the season gets rolling.
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Youngsta71701 on October 19, 2017, 11:45:48 am
yet just two seasons ago, when they missed the post season you continually pointed out they were just off a ncaat appearance What have you done lately only applies if it fits your agenda to proclaim Mike the greatest basketball coach ever.

Better? No. Equivalent based on the sport? Yes.
I'm still trying to find out when I said Mike was the greatest basketball coach ever? What I did say and will continue to say is that Mike is a much better coach than you will ever give him credit for because for some reason you just don't like him and refuse to give him credit for anything good while at the same time giving him blame for any and everything that goes bad. And I also believe Mike is a good fit for Arkansas. Believe it or not fit matters. Ask your football coach ;).
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Youngsta71701 on October 19, 2017, 11:54:21 am
Heard MA's quote on the radio during commercial. On the next segment they were taking about beard and the counterfeit money then some other legal trouble of players. So, I'm confused, is he full of it or does he actually believe he's clean. I mean, if Calipari is responsible for Rose's SAT or whatever then CMA is responsible as well.
You do know there is a difference right? Calipari knew all about Rose's SAT scandal. Do you think CMA told Beard and Williams to spend counterfeit money?
Title: Re: Mike Anderson said it best today about the cheaters in college basketball
Post by: Possible Oatmeal on October 22, 2017, 12:37:08 pm

Better? No. Equivalent based on the sport? Yes.

This alone is more than enough to completely dismiss any opinion you have about a basketball coach.