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Title: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Mike Irwin on October 02, 2017, 09:57:20 pm
Is this the game where we finally see some of those 3-4 blitz packages talked about since last spring?

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670 (http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670)
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Dr. Starcs on October 02, 2017, 10:32:15 pm
About 4 games too late if it is.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: regi on October 02, 2017, 11:14:55 pm
I am going to say....no. Bret rushes 3, maybe 4, drops 8 or 7. Just who he is and what he wants.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: twistitup on October 03, 2017, 06:06:28 am
   No
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: DeltaBoy on October 03, 2017, 08:03:18 am
I would love to see it.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: IronHog on October 03, 2017, 08:04:39 am
No.


They may rush 2 or less most of the game though.....
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: theFlyingHog on October 03, 2017, 09:18:00 am
Would be less surprised to see no rush than blitzes. We definitely do not have a staff that subscribes to 1930s German warfare strategy
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: twistitup on October 03, 2017, 10:05:30 am
We are what we are - we aren't going to change everything now. We are struggling to grasp the current concepts - why would we make it more complex?
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: theFlyingHog on October 03, 2017, 10:35:29 am
We are what we are - we aren't going to change everything now. We are struggling to grasp the current concepts - why would we make it more complex?
I haven't seen much to say that we're struggling to grasp the concepts. Certainly not anymore than last year's defense.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: ModestoHOG63 on October 03, 2017, 11:17:22 am
agree with everyone, would love to see it BUT seriously doubt if it happens.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Danny J on October 03, 2017, 11:17:53 am
I am going to say....no. Bret rushes 3, maybe 4, drops 8 or 7. Just who he is and what he wants.
Yep...through 3 different DC's and 2 different base defenses. Bend but don't break D works great if you are able to keep guys in front of you, set the edge and tackle. We play bend but don't break and still give up the big plays.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: twistitup on October 03, 2017, 12:56:38 pm
I haven't seen much to say that we're struggling to grasp the concepts. Certainly not anymore than last year's defense.

I was giving them the time, there is a learning curve to learning a new D.

If they are NOT still learning and have a grasp on all the concepts, then they are simply not very good.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Bacon_Bitz on October 03, 2017, 12:59:16 pm
I heard we are gonna drop 9 and rush 2 this weekend.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: tannerstahl on October 03, 2017, 02:30:39 pm
I'm all about rushing 6 and playing man coverage every play lol ...I can live with getting beat man to man, but I hate seeing us rush 3 and getting picked apart in zone coverage cause the QB has all day to wait for something to open up lol but regardless, I support my HOGS and our coaches! WoooPig!!!

Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: 247Hog on October 03, 2017, 02:52:35 pm
I heard we are gonna drop 9 and rush 2 this weekend.

Might as well rush 1 and drop 10. Can't wait to see it  :P
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: jacobp on October 03, 2017, 03:56:11 pm
I think we will blitz him a bit. Need to be selective because they run shotgun every play, but if we can get to him a couple times early it will bode well for us.
I just watched their game with Texas A&M and I’m convinced there’s no way he’s completely healthy. He didn’t know where he was adter the next to last play of the game
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: VirginiaHog on October 03, 2017, 05:43:08 pm
We blitzed last week. I assume we will do about the same this week. Similar offense.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: apcapri on October 03, 2017, 07:46:46 pm
If by blitz you mean stand back and watch the QB hit open targets? Then I say yes...we will blitz that way.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: BigE_23 on October 03, 2017, 09:03:54 pm
Nope. More of the same stupid rush 3 drop 8, bend and do break BS we’ve seen from a Bert coached team.

I wish to God we had a coach with an aggressive philosophy about rushing the QB. This passive garbage we have to endure each week makes me wanna puke.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Großer Kriegschwein on October 04, 2017, 08:22:13 am
If by blitz you mean stand back and watch the QB hit open targets? Then I say yes...we will blitz that way.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Theolesnort on October 04, 2017, 08:24:46 am
Quote- "On the flip side of it we've got to do a better job of executing our plan and make sure we don't give up any deep balls." That right there gives you your answer. We will never develop a mano mano take no prisoners defense that is rough and tough if we continue to play passive defense like we have the last couple of years. As Sherlock would say "elementary my dear Watson." So to Mike's question I would say no.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: HF#1 on October 04, 2017, 11:18:29 am
They should given the current state of South Carolina's offensive line. Will they? Who the hell knows.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 04, 2017, 04:30:14 pm
Is this the game where we finally see some of those 3-4 blitz packages talked about since last spring?

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670 (http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670)
Why now? If not vs TCU and A&M, only reason it will happen now is because there is nothing left to try as well as nothing left to lose.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: hawgdavis on October 04, 2017, 07:01:32 pm
Man I hope so, I would love to see them run a sell out blitz about 10 or more times and run blitz often as well. I want to see aggression, ruthless aggression with intent to destroy.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Rayzback on October 04, 2017, 08:22:04 pm
Didn't they give up 7 sacks last weekend, and isn't their oline pretty banged up?

Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: WPS2k18 on October 05, 2017, 08:11:09 am
We would be dumb not to send more pressure. So Coach Rhoads sends lots of pressure and often.My prediction:Sosa gets 3 Sacks rest of the defense 2. Woo Pig. ;D
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: longpig on October 05, 2017, 10:23:25 am
Bret Arnold doesn't have cards to hold close to the vest, aces up his sleeve......  We saw what we're getting in the first 4 games this season just like we did the previous seasons.  Will this be the first embarrassing loss of a string of embarrassing losses for 2017 season is a better question.  Muschamp is the smarter idiot.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: RazorbackEagle1996 on October 05, 2017, 12:33:38 pm
Defense has always played soft I believe that Randy Ramsey is am elite defensive player he just doesn't have the will or want to do it. 3-4 the line isn't good enough a guard and tackle can double team Sosa all game NG sucks. Playing conservative just isn't gonna work gonna have to get pressure in the back field some how.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: logic on October 05, 2017, 12:38:55 pm
The Blitz is wonderful when it works, but terrible when it results in a quick touchdown.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: HeathWimp on October 05, 2017, 08:52:17 pm
In a word.....no way.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: ChicoHog on October 05, 2017, 09:00:24 pm
I think we will blitz a lot if we cannot get pressure from standard defense.  Less mobile QB than last few games.   Not nearly as dangerous out of the pocket.  You guys want to blitz all the time and more often than not you get burned if it's a mobile guy. 
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: swineology on October 06, 2017, 05:02:25 pm
Is this the game where we finally see some of those 3-4 blitz packages talked about since last spring?

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670 (http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670)

I'd like to see more blitzes and stunts. What we'll probably see is more of the Willy Robinson bend don't break
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: nwahogfan1 on October 06, 2017, 06:49:20 pm
Boy I would love for our defense to come after their young Qb with several different blitz packages but I do not expect it. Just more of the same.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: pigasaurus on October 07, 2017, 07:15:54 am
Since we aren't playing a mobile QB (finally ) I hope we do.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: AP85 on October 07, 2017, 08:13:36 am
Is this the game where we finally see some of those 3-4 blitz packages talked about since last spring?

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670 (http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670)

No.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Quickdraw on October 07, 2017, 09:32:29 am
Yep...through 3 different DC's and 2 different base defenses. Bend but don't break D works great if you are able to keep guys in front of you, set the edge and tackle. We play bend but don't break and still give up the big plays.

I agree. Brett is sold on the fact of not blitzing so we can slow them down by not letting anything get behind our defensive backs. And let his offense win the game. The problem on offense they can't establish a running game because we abandon the running game when it gets a little tuff and start passing. Another problem on offense is they start with a pretty good game plan the first half but become very predictable play calling in the second half.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Hogs run wild on October 07, 2017, 10:08:45 am
i say yes. we didn't blitz tcu cause Hill could run and same with Mond from a&m. this guy can run a bit too but not as effective as the other 2.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: bigpigpimpin on October 07, 2017, 10:10:49 am
Is this the game where we finally see some of those 3-4 blitz packages talked about since last spring?

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670 (http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/will-hogs-blitz-gamecocks-qb/823220670)
I doubt it. We are soft on both sides of the ball. soft mentality.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: jm on October 07, 2017, 10:35:42 am
We sat back and allowed one of the worst rated QB's in the nation look like a Heisman candidate; I expect the same today
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: sir-pigs-a-lot on October 07, 2017, 11:00:21 am
We sat back and allowed one of the worst rated QB's in the nation look like a Heisman candidate; I expect the same today

Which one was that? The last 3 QBs we have faced we're in the top 70 in the nation out with Mond being the lowest at 69. Hill was #7 and Rogers somewhere in the 50's. So which one is the worst rated in the nation?
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: 12247 on October 07, 2017, 11:49:12 am
NOT ENOUGH
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: LZH on October 07, 2017, 11:54:03 am
That would only mean we have one or two less kids in the second level to miss a tackle.  We all knew there would be major growing pains with this defense. But we are slow.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 07, 2017, 11:39:24 pm
I noted that most of the time, SC rushed 4 and not infrequently sent a 5th. Arkansas rushed 3 most of the time. I'm sure they rushed 4 on occasion but I never saw it. SC won the game and destroyed and overwhelmed our O line and blocking backs. SC won the game with 3 defensive TD's. They pressured AA almost every pass attempt.

So what I see is the Ark DC not rushing more than 3. Why? Simple...because he has zero confidence in doing so given the personnel. Otherwise, he would rush 4 or 5 and blitz on occasion. This staff cannot get defensive players of adequate talent to come to Arkansas. That is a problem.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: presidenthog on October 08, 2017, 12:16:17 am
I noted that most of the time, SC rushed 4 and not infrequently sent a 5th. Arkansas rushed 3 most of the time. I'm sure they rushed 4 on occasion but I never saw it. SC won the game and destroyed and overwhelmed our O line and blocking backs. SC won the game with 3 defensive TD's. They pressured AA almost every pass attempt.

So what I see is the Ark DC not rushing more than 3. Why? Simple...because he has zero confidence in doing so given the personnel. Otherwise, he would rush 4 or 5 and blitz on occasion. This staff cannot get defensive players of adequate talent to come to Arkansas. That is a problem.

We rushed 5, and even 6 on occasion. What would happen  is we would never get close to Bentley and he would just freak out thinking we didn't suck and would get to him. He would throw it high for an incompletion.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on October 08, 2017, 12:20:46 am
I was giving them the time, there is a learning curve to learning a new D.

If they are NOT still learning and have a grasp on all the concepts, then they are simply not very good.
This new defense was merely a gimmick to buy Bielema more time. Now he can say, "oh we don't have the type of talent to run this defense, we have to recruit the right type of player"....which adds another 3 to 4 years to his honeymoon with Jeffie Long. And, "the band plays on".
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 08, 2017, 08:34:51 am
We rushed 5, and even 6 on occasion. What would happen  is we would never get close to Bentley and he would just freak out thinking we didn't suck and would get to him. He would throw it high for an incompletion.
The 3 defensive series I watched in the 2nd half when the game was more critical, we never rushed more than 3. When exactly did Ark rush 5 and 6 ?
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: DeltaBoy on October 08, 2017, 08:39:59 am
Nope this bunch can  only blitz the training table.
Title: Re: Will Hogs Blitz Gamecocks QB?
Post by: ChicoHog on October 08, 2017, 09:40:51 am
The 3 defensive series I watched in the 2nd half when the game was more critical, we never rushed more than 3. When exactly did Ark rush 5 and 6 ?
We did a lot actually.  Most of the time Bentley threw it up to one one one coverage on the sideline and ball fell incomplete.  a couple times SC picked up blitzers and he completed short pass.  It worked ok.  The problem with the game was our offense.  Just like TCU game.