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Title: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 10:01:35 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: tusked on October 01, 2017, 10:02:02 am

Late on your meds this morning I see.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: NuttinItUp on October 01, 2017, 10:05:54 am
Who are the 5 conference wins against?
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 10:06:50 am
Late on your meds this morning I see.

I have no meds sir

only vitamins and herbs and probiotic fermented veggies
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 10:08:07 am
Who are the 5 conference wins against?

LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: parallaxpig on October 01, 2017, 10:08:22 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

We should be but we won't be. Conference is way down and we are part of the "down".
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: GunnerHawg70 on October 01, 2017, 10:09:59 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
I can get onboard with this...
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: golf2day on October 01, 2017, 10:13:31 am
LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak
Hope you're right but imo aubbies gonna beat us like a rented mule. A rented mule that's been bad.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: rhames on October 01, 2017, 10:14:04 am
LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak



Swap SC and Auburn and maybe that duck can hunt.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: sickboy on October 01, 2017, 10:14:17 am
It's possible. If the offense keeps progressing like it has, it's certainly possible. Auburn Is going to be really tough.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: parallaxpig on October 01, 2017, 10:16:44 am
It's possible. If the offense keeps progressing like it has, it's certainly possible. Auburn Is going to be really tough.

Its not the offense that will keep us from 8 wins.......
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: hogblitz on October 01, 2017, 10:21:45 am
Its not the offense that will keep us from 8 wins.......
Exactly right.....however, the offense still has many issues. The OL may be the worst we have ever had. 
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 10:25:11 am
Hope you're right but imo aubbies gonna beat us like a rented mule. A rented mule that's been bad.


we are going to take Auburn to the woodshed

classic beating
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: RedRazorHog on October 01, 2017, 10:25:29 am
Guy must of gotten some free samples in the mail... dude...read the small print before you pop those in... 8-5 won't happen.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 10:27:35 am
Exactly right.....however, the offense still has many issues. The OL may be the worst we have ever had.

we have a first team all American at Center - how is it the worst ever?

I would like to see Frank moved to guard to shore us up here and start Zack at center
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Pecos Hog on October 01, 2017, 10:27:57 am
Must be dreaming or something.   After what I've seen from this team I keep thinking it will struggle to win 1 SEC game.   But at the start of the season I said we'd go 5-7.    For that to pan out at this point there would have to be another surprise SEC win lurking out there somewhere for us.   

Been an awesome 5 year run for Bert.   Great time to be a Razorback, isn't it?
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 10:28:42 am
Guy must of gotten some free samples in the mail... dude...read the small print before you pop those in... 8-5 won't happen.

9-4 after the bowl

you're already assuming we will lose the bowl without knowing who it's against?

okay Glass Half Empty Guy
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: onebadrubi on October 01, 2017, 10:35:09 am
With everything we've seen in college football over the years, with how poor some of the teams ahead of our schedule have looked the last two or three weeks, nobody really knows.  You can't say we won't 8 games and you can't see we only will win 4 or 5.  Most people refuse to look at it without agenda's, bias, or emotion.  If you remove those three things, factor in Bielema's tenure here, no one has a clue. 

My biggest worry about the back half of our schedule was Ms st, but they a put up a lack luster past two weeks so jury is out for sure. 

I'd hope our team has had auburn circled ever since that embarrasment last year, so that should be an emotional game for our team to come out with and at home.

LSU, well we've faired well against LSU under Bielema. 

I think Ole Miss will see the sort of year we had under Johnelle, a collapse from here on out. 

USC is a true toss up, no clue there.

We should roll Mizzou, and I would expect that loud mouth read head LB to be on his but often from Ragnow. 

Anything could happen from 5-9 wins.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: hogblitz on October 01, 2017, 10:42:01 am
we have a first team all American at Center - how is it the worst ever?

I would like to see Frank moved to guard to shore us up here and start Zack at center
Ragnow is one player and he is outstanding! However, he cannot play all 5 positions at once. This might be the worst OL we have ever fielded.  Bielema will never make the change you suggested.  Not saying your suggestion is a bad one.  We have many talented options on the sidelines. However,  the fact is the staff is very poor at player development.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 10:46:05 am
Ragnow is one player and he is outstanding! However, he cannot play all 5 positions at once. This might be the worst OL we have ever fielded.  Bielema will never make the change you suggested.  Not saying your suggestion is a bad one.  We have many talented options on the sidelines. However,  the fact is the staff is very poor at player development.

the people sitting behind the bench need to send that message loud and clear. "Put Zach in at center and move Frank to guard!"

CBB will hear it.

Then keep saying it. And keep yelling it. Keep saying it until he feels embarrassed to not try it!!
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: longpig on October 01, 2017, 10:50:57 am
2nd half scoring yesterday was 14-14 because  Bielema sucked the life out of the team as always.  We looked the same as Mizzou 16, Vtech and TCU 17 in that game. There isn't an SEC opponent left on the schedule who wouldn't have out coached Arkansas and won that game.  Saban had both feet on the brakes and outscored OM 31-0 in the 2nd half.   You can't expect anything to change so we might win 3 conference games but probably just 2.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HenduHog on October 01, 2017, 10:55:51 am


Swap SC and Auburn and maybe that duck can hunt.

What I was thinking. The West is down. I don't think Aubie is down enough that with our D, we can beat them.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 11:02:34 am
What I was thinking. The West is down. I don't think Aubie is down enough that with our D, we can beat them.


we are going to pressure Auburn in every facet of the game at all times

The kitchen sink's kitchen sink
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: jacobp on October 01, 2017, 11:08:33 am
2nd half scoring yesterday was 14-14 because  Bielema sucked the life out of the team as always.  We looked the same as Mizzou 16, Vtech and TCU 17 in that game. There isn't an SEC opponent left on the schedule who wouldn't have out coached Arkansas and won that game.  Saban had both feet on the brakes and outscored OM 31-0 in the 2nd half.   You can't expect anything to change so we might win 3 conference games but probably just 2.

Oh please. We put the brakes on early in the 2nd half. The game was never in doubt and we basically ran the same 3 plays for the rest of the game.

Bama has the brakes on? They were running play action throwing downfield well into the 4h quarter
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 11:10:21 am
Oh please. We put the brakes on early in the 2nd half. The game was never in doubt and we basically ran the same 3 plays for the rest of the game.

Bama has the brakes on? They were running play action throwing downfield well into the 4h quarter

thank you

these haters are out of control on here
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HenduHog on October 01, 2017, 11:12:52 am

we are going to pressure Auburn in every facet of the game at all times

The kitchen sink's kitchen sink

Tell me how we are going to do that?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 11:14:10 am
Tell me how we are going to do that?

you mean explain football to you?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: LZH on October 01, 2017, 11:27:30 am
That's a helluva stretch.  Our OL and defense still have major problems. I'd damn sure take it (I'd get to go to the bowl game), but can't see it.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: code red on October 01, 2017, 11:28:22 am
LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak
respect your opinion. And that would be awesome. But the way I see it I only see two conference wins.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HenduHog on October 01, 2017, 11:28:22 am
you mean explain football to you?

No smart ass..

We have played a 3 man rush all year, except toward the end of yesterdays game. We play max coverage and still get burned.

what makes you think the D coaches will have an epiphany, and suddenly come up with a scheme that will work against Auburn, who's stock in trade is motion.

Epiphany- a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something, usually initiated by some simple, homely, or commonplace occurrence or experience.

YOU made the assertion we are "we are going to pressure Auburn in every facet of the game at all times

The kitchen sink's kitchen sink"

I want to know the details of how YOU think that's going to happen. I mean you ARE the expert.

If you're going to make an assertion, back it up with detail, otherwise it's simply a guess.

Assertion-a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason:
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HenduHog on October 01, 2017, 11:30:12 am
and,point of fact, I was merely agreeing to someone else, yet you decided to be a dick about it.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: code red on October 01, 2017, 11:30:23 am
Tell me how we are going to do that?
our defense is ill-equipped to deal with the stretch play that they run. Plus they're going to be in Austin's face all day long. Again it would be awesome but no way in heck we beat Auburn.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 11:32:45 am
and,point of fact, I was merely agreeing to someone else, yet you decided to be a dick about it.


nope, I'm not

In fact, you make a great point on the rush. Again yesterday, we had linebackers missing reads. So against Auburn, why not just blitz the crap out of them. If the position coaches are not going to teach them to read, then Rhoads might as well send heat seeking missiles with them instead
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: mellonhead on October 01, 2017, 11:34:34 am
in my best Beno Cook voice, hunbalevable
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: GoHogzzGo on October 01, 2017, 11:35:41 am


Swap SC and Auburn and maybe that duck can hunt.

Agreed. With USCe in there I think we can beat them all. Except I expect us to lose to MSU unfortunately.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Redhogs on October 01, 2017, 11:43:09 am
With everything we've seen in college football over the years, with how poor some of the teams ahead of our schedule have looked the last two or three weeks, nobody really knows.  You can't say we won't 8 games and you can't see we only will win 4 or 5.  Most people refuse to look at it without agenda's, bias, or emotion.  If you remove those three things, factor in Bielema's tenure here, no one has a clue. 

My biggest worry about the back half of our schedule was Ms st, but they a put up a lack luster past two weeks so jury is out for sure. 

I'd hope our team has had auburn circled ever since that embarrasment last year, so that should be an emotional game for our team to come out with and at home.

LSU, well we've faired well against LSU under Bielema. 

I think Ole Miss will see the sort of year we had under Johnelle, a collapse from here on out. 

USC is a true toss up, no clue there.

We should roll Mizzou, and I would expect that loud mouth read head LB to be on his but often from Ragnow. 

Anything could happen from 5-9 wins.
Looking at the rest of the season without an agenda, this is probably an accurate post. It is funny though, seeing how some on here view a win over NMS  as  a land mark win of the season. How far this program and it's expections have fallen...sad.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
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Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Darrell Royal's Floating Flaming Fulminating Spectral Head on October 01, 2017, 11:56:12 am
No smart ass..

We have played a 3 man rush all year, except toward the end of yesterdays game. We play max coverage and still get burned.

what makes you think the D coaches will have an epiphany, and suddenly come up with a scheme that will work against Auburn, who's stock in trade is motion.

Epiphany- a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something, usually initiated by some simple, homely, or commonplace occurrence or experience.

YOU made the assertion we are "we are going to pressure Auburn in every facet of the game at all times

The kitchen sink's kitchen sink"

I want to know the details of how YOU think that's going to happen. I mean you ARE the expert.

If you're going to make an assertion, back it up with detail, otherwise it's simply a guess.

Assertion-a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason:

You got one of them word a day calendars? I like those things.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Karma on October 01, 2017, 11:58:26 am
We beat one rent a win team and some think all the problems are fixed.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Darrell Royal's Floating Flaming Fulminating Spectral Head on October 01, 2017, 12:01:42 pm
We beat one rent a win team and some think all the problems are fixed.

So, you want to plan a kitten punting contest for the next home game to decelerate any positives?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: 12247 on October 01, 2017, 12:04:22 pm
Several posters seem to believe we will beat Auburn.  HOW?  Gus, in my opinion, wanted the Arkansas job and was totally overlooked.   I think Gus circles the Arkansas game annually as his must win for that season.  He has the team and the will power to kick us in the nuts and he will.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 01, 2017, 12:04:49 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

That would be nice, but CBS has us in the Liberty against Texas Tech. 
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 12:09:28 pm
Several posters seem to believe we will beat Auburn.  HOW?  Gus, in my opinion, wanted the Arkansas job and was totally overlooked.   I think Gus circles the Arkansas game annually as his must win for that season.  He has the team and the will power to kick us in the nuts and he will.

I respect your high regard for Gus since it's obvious you are related to him through family
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: DoctorSusscrofa on October 01, 2017, 12:12:05 pm
Several posters seem to believe we will beat Auburn.  HOW?  Gus, in my opinion, wanted the Arkansas job and was totally overlooked.   I think Gus circles the Arkansas game annually as his must win for that season.  He has the team and the will power to kick us in the nuts and he will.

Isn't Auburn the athletic department where the coaches have just as many off the field legal incidents as the players do?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HenduHog on October 01, 2017, 12:17:53 pm

nope, I'm not

In fact, you make a great point on the rush. Again yesterday, we had linebackers missing reads. So against Auburn, why not just blitz the crap out of them. If the position coaches are not going to teach them to read, then Rhoads might as well send heat seeking missiles with them instead


I agree. Teams who run the 3-4 successfully have people coming from everywhere. We don't and I don't see a change in the future. We cannot cover 1 on 1
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HenduHog on October 01, 2017, 12:19:25 pm
You got one of them word a day calendars? I like those things.

lol

Nope. The internet is wonderful.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Hoggish1 on October 01, 2017, 12:20:05 pm
LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak

Trade USEe for Auburn and I'm with you.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Hoggish1 on October 01, 2017, 12:21:51 pm
Its not the offense that will keep us from 8 wins.......

No, it's an ever improving defense that will.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: davglo35 on October 01, 2017, 12:22:21 pm
No matter what you predict or think this team is handicapped bad. We have one facet of the game that is totally missing. Special teams. No field goal confidence at all. No kick return threat. Very little punt return threat. Almost no touchbacks on kickoffs. We were one end zone pick away from being in a dog fight yesterday to see who would score the most points before time ran out. How in the world can we beat Auburn and anybody SEC wise with a pulse with no ST?
To top that off, AA will be beat nearly to a pulp with the OL we have. The defense has a passing game weakness that was really exposed yesterday. Scramble out if the pocket and either run or throw to wide open recievers.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: RazorbackAlways on October 01, 2017, 12:26:05 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

Bull c.r.a.p.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 12:47:30 pm
No matter what you predict or think this team is handicapped bad. We have one facet of the game that is totally missing. Special teams. No field goal confidence at all. No kick return threat. Very little punt return threat. Almost no touchbacks on kickoffs. We were one end zone pick away from being in a dog fight yesterday to see who would score the most points before time ran out. How in the world can we beat Auburn and anybody SEC wise with a pulse with no ST?
To top that off, AA will be beat nearly to a pulp with the OL we have. The defense has a passing game weakness that was really exposed yesterday. Scramble out if the pocket and either run or throw to wide open recievers.

D'Vion Warren is ready to take one to the house
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoopS on October 01, 2017, 12:52:19 pm
The conference is darnsure down.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 01, 2017, 12:57:24 pm
The conference is darnsure down.

anyway, it's my hope that after the 8-4 finish, in the coach shuffling period before the bowl games are played, that Bill Snyder retires and Bret Bielema takes his respectable show to Kansas State

Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 01, 2017, 12:59:39 pm
Nobody is going to want him now.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hawgdavis on October 01, 2017, 01:34:10 pm
Guy must of gotten some free samples in the mail... dude...read the small print before you pop those in... 8-5 won't happen.

Why not? Only teams that look the part to me are Bama and UGA everyone else not so much and we have had slow starts before and finished strong. No reason to think it can't happen again. Line doing a little better and receivers starting to come on it could happen.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Al Boarland on October 01, 2017, 01:49:50 pm

we are going to take Auburn to the woodshed

classic beating

Let me guess. The game is circled.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GuvHog on October 01, 2017, 01:53:33 pm
Let me guess. The game is circled.

After last year, it darn well should be! If it isn't, somebody is missing the boat.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Al Boarland on October 01, 2017, 01:58:28 pm
Several posters seem to believe we will beat Auburn.  HOW?  Gus, in my opinion, wanted the Arkansas job and was totally overlooked.   I think Gus circles the Arkansas game annually as his must win for that season.  He has the team and the will power to kick us in the nuts and he will.

There is absolutely no reason based in reality that someone should pick the Hogs to beat Auburn.

Auburn has the edge is every single matchup and itís really not close sans QB. AA will be running for his life for 4 quarters and we will have to play from behind which we suck at.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: 1highhog on October 01, 2017, 01:59:01 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

Lol, I hope you come back at the end of the season and realize just how stupid your post about us finishing 8-4 really was.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Al Boarland on October 01, 2017, 02:04:40 pm
After last year, it darn well should be! If it isn't, somebody is missing the boat.
A&M game was circled too. Circling a game doesnít mean jack when you donít stack up to the team you are playing. They have one of the best defenses in the country and it appears their offense is clicking. The line will probably be Hogs +10.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: LZH on October 01, 2017, 02:05:45 pm
Several posters seem to believe we will beat Auburn.  HOW?  Gus, in my opinion, wanted the Arkansas job and was totally overlooked.   I think Gus circles the Arkansas game annually as his must win for that season.  He has the team and the will power to kick us in the nuts and he will.

This is a week or two early, but I believe this 100%.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GTOWNHOG on October 01, 2017, 02:11:50 pm
Don't think we will win 8.  We are likely to lose to  @Alabama, Auburn, and @LSU (3-9 in Baton Rouge since 1992).  That gives us 5 losses. 4-4 SEC.  Saturday's game in Columbia, SC will be no easy task, either. I'll let you know where we are after Saturday...  :) :D ;D   
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: my3boneheads on October 01, 2017, 02:17:29 pm
More like 7-5 if the breaks go our way. We have to learn to win the close ones.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: johnny cash on October 01, 2017, 02:18:48 pm
Who are the 5 conference wins against?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoopS on October 01, 2017, 02:29:57 pm
Lol, I hope you come back at the end of the season and realize just how stupid your post about us finishing 8-4 really was.
why wouldnít Hog fans hope heís right?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Calling All Hogs on October 01, 2017, 02:37:19 pm
I'll wait and see who LSU appoints as their interim coach before I predict a victory. :)
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: 1highhog on October 01, 2017, 02:59:18 pm
why wouldn’t Hog fans hope he’s right?

I hope he's wrong and we go 10-2 but no way in heck we're going to go that.  Just as there's no way we're going 5-3 in the SEC.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: From Tusk Till Dawn on October 01, 2017, 03:37:31 pm
I hate it but feel like 4-4 in sec play.  5-3 requires us to be lights out in nov (which we have done before) Feel like we can beat SC, OM, Miz, and leaning towards Ms st since its at home.  However, Fitzgerald scares me more than LSU so a bit torn.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: ModestoHOG63 on October 01, 2017, 03:43:29 pm
I'm sorry ....THIS is not going to happen.    In fact I'm struggling with ANY conference wins with this staff and the problems we've seen since last year.  I know its not a popular opinion but its what I'm seeing, currently.    Though I have to admit that Williams is going to go off on his former team (S. Carolina) would not surprise me.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: From Tusk Till Dawn on October 01, 2017, 04:05:22 pm
I'm sorry ....THIS is not going to happen.    In fact I'm struggling with ANY conference wins with this staff and the problems we've seen since last year.  I know its not a popular opinion but its what I'm seeing, currently.    Though I have to admit that Williams is going to go off on his former team (S. Carolina) would not surprise me.

No need to apologize.  Everyone gets to have an opinion right or wrong.  I have a feeling youll be wrong if your leaning towards a donut in sec play but only time will tell.  I think with the exception of bama and auburn we are as good or as bad as any team left on the schedule BUT i do think SC is probably the most pivotal game so i hope your right about williams.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: rhames on October 01, 2017, 04:06:56 pm
I'm sorry ....THIS is not going to happen.    In fact I'm struggling with ANY conference wins with this staff and the problems we've seen since last year.  I know its not a popular opinion but its what I'm seeing, currently.    Though I have to admit that Williams is going to go off on his former team (S. Carolina) would not surprise me.



I get not liking the staff and ready for a change. However it is dumb to say the team will struggle to win one conference game. It's either agenda driven or you haven't been paying attention to the league at all.


Looking at it objectively Arkansas gets to 6 with a shot at 7.  Wins total. Not conference wins.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: ModestoHOG63 on October 01, 2017, 04:09:43 pm


I get not liking the staff and ready for a change. However it is dumb to say the team will struggle to win one conference game. It's either agenda driven or you haven't been paying attention to the league at all.


Looking at it objectively Arkansas gets to 6 with a shot at 7.  Wins total. No conference wins.


or maybe you and others have an agenda towards people who speak the truth.  Are you Liberal?   lol
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on October 01, 2017, 04:11:16 pm
Id kill for 8-4.  Couldn't care less the the conference is way down.  5-3 in the SEC for a mediocre team is quite good. Don think it will happen, of course, but not that crazy of a notion.  The trip to SC looms large for us.  Would be a good win in the road against a decent team.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: rhames on October 01, 2017, 04:11:32 pm

or maybe you and others have an agenda towards people who speak the truth.  Are you Liberal?   lol


Oh man. Such great insight and deflection.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HogimusMaximus on October 01, 2017, 04:18:57 pm
We will finish 5-7/maybe 6-6
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HardCore on October 01, 2017, 04:26:05 pm
I'm still looking for that liquor store you all are getting that Absinthe. 
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hog of steele on October 01, 2017, 04:57:46 pm
I will take it.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Tejano Jawg on October 01, 2017, 04:59:30 pm
If someone is that optimistic, I'm not going to talk them out of it. It's refreshing, actually.

Well, we won't have to wait long to see if it's even possibleÖlike NEXT Saturday. The South Carolina game has to be a win, with some solid play from us all around.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: rhames on October 01, 2017, 05:01:38 pm
If someone is that optimistic, I'm not going to talk them out of it. It's refreshing, actually.

Well, we won't have to wait long to see if it's even possibleÖlike NEXT Saturday. The South Carolina game has to be a win, with some solid play from us all around.


A phrase we have grown to say a lot it seems


It's Bret's biggest game since he has been here.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: 007 License To Squeal on October 01, 2017, 05:19:36 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

What year?  It won't be THIS year?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GuvHog on October 01, 2017, 05:29:33 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

An 8-4 regular season finish won't get the Hogs to the Outback Bowl. It would probably gain them either a return to the Belk Bowl or to the TaxSlayer (Gator) Bowl.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Bardicer on October 01, 2017, 05:32:47 pm
Must be dreaming or something.   After what I've seen from this team I keep thinking it will struggle to win 1 SEC game.   But at the start of the season I said we'd go 5-7.    For that to pan out at this point there would have to be another surprise SEC win lurking out there somewhere for us.   

Been an awesome 5 year run for Bert Bret.   Great time to be a Razorback, isn't it?

FIFY  :)
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 01, 2017, 05:43:13 pm
There are 3 games that should be won (Coastal Carolina, Ole Miss, and Missouri).

There are 2 toss-up games (South Carolina and Mississippi State).

There are 3 games that have a high probability of being losses (Alabama, Auburn, and LSU).

The key are the 2 toss-up games, particularly Mississippi State at home.   
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: FANONTHEHILL on October 01, 2017, 05:46:32 pm
Iím the King of the Optimists.  I also fully subscribe to the 1-0 mentality.  Letís worry about South Carolina.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: HoggyCat on October 01, 2017, 05:53:46 pm
It's possible. If the offense keeps progressing like it has, it's certainly possible. Auburn Is going to be really tough.

I want to see us play a real defense before I say the offense is actually professing. A&M is horrible (USCe was without their best WR) and NMSU is well, NMSU. A sunbelt school. Plus two of the TDs we scored were following a 4th down conversion. We won't be going for and/or getting conversions in SEC play.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoggyCat on October 01, 2017, 05:57:52 pm
No matter what you predict or think this team is handicapped bad. We have one facet of the game that is totally missing. Special teams. No field goal confidence at all. No kick return threat. Very little punt return threat. Almost no touchbacks on kickoffs. We were one end zone pick away from being in a dog fight yesterday to see who would score the most points before time ran out. How in the world can we beat Auburn and anybody SEC wise with a pulse with no ST?
To top that off, AA will be beat nearly to a pulp with the OL we have. The defense has a passing game weakness that was really exposed yesterday. Scramble out if the pocket and either run or throw to wide open recievers.

The defense laughs at this post.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: TNRazorbacker on October 01, 2017, 07:30:35 pm
Its not nearly as out of the question as it seemed last week- although still highly unlikely. We arent world beaters but it was plain from the games yesterday that much of our SEC competition aren't either.

 Bama will destroy us- but they are doing that to everyone. Auburn looks to be strong. Having them at home helps but winning that one will be a long shot. Everyone else on the slate is at least a toss up. One things for sure, you cant make a good judgement on a single weekend, particularly early in the season.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Bacons Rebellion on October 01, 2017, 07:58:55 pm
We have 6 winnable games left. Obviously Alabama, and probably Auburn. Auburn's offense is better than our defense, and their defense is better than our offense -- that's a hard situation to overcome, so I'm not seeing that. Everything else is on the table.

The problem realistically, is that 5 of those 6 are also losable games. We proved last year that we can lose games that should be locks (Missouri). While we CAN win those games, it's unlikely that we WILL win all of them. Realistically, I think we split them and 6-6 is most likely.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on October 01, 2017, 08:02:33 pm
We have 6 winnable games left. Obviously Alabama, and probably Auburn. Auburn's offense is better than our defense, and their defense is better than our offense -- that's a hard situation to overcome, so I'm not seeing that. Everything else is on the table.

The problem realistically, is that 5 of those 6 are also losable games. We proved last year that we can lose games that should be locks (Missouri). While we CAN win those games, it's unlikely that we WILL win all of them. Realistically, I think we split them and 6-6 is most likely.

Completely agree. 
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: TeufelHog on October 01, 2017, 08:10:45 pm
Auburn would stomp a mud-hole in us if we played them today.  Don't see that changing much in 3 weeks.  I attended their game against MissState yesterday.  Their defense is for real and Stidham is getting more comfortable by the minute with their offensive scheme.  Don't see the Hogs winning this game . . . even at home.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Piggfoot on October 01, 2017, 08:16:30 pm
Hope you're right but I fear overly optimistic.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Hawgzinbowlz on October 01, 2017, 08:42:53 pm


Swap SC and Auburn and maybe that duck Hog can hunt.

" GO HOGS "
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: TNRazorbacker on October 01, 2017, 09:16:25 pm
We have 6 winnable games left. Obviously Alabama, and probably Auburn. Auburn's offense is better than our defense, and their defense is better than our offense -- that's a hard situation to overcome, so I'm not seeing that. Everything else is on the table.

The problem realistically, is that 5 of those 6 are also losable games. We proved last year that we can lose games that should be locks (Missouri). While we CAN win those games, it's unlikely that we WILL win all of them. Realistically, I think we split them and 6-6 is most likely.

The problem with this staff is the larger tendency to lose games they should win rather than the opposite. I can't think of a single notable upset this staff has managed in the last 4+ seasons while the opposite are easily memorable. More troubling is the tendency to come out on the short end in close games, which is exacerbated by the fact that we have no servicible kicker this year and that's frequently the difference in a close game.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Mo_Better_Hogs on October 01, 2017, 09:18:16 pm
There are 3 games that should be won (Coastal Carolina, Ole Miss, and Missouri).

There are 2 toss-up games (South Carolina and Mississippi State).

There are 3 games that have a high probability of being losses (Alabama, Auburn, and LSU).

The key are the 2 toss-up games, particularly Mississippi State at home.   

This is right on. So yeah, that means the OP is not out of his mind. We have 6 winnable games, and if Auburn had a bad afternoon somehow, 7. In saying that, I recognize I'm indirectly saying how 'down' the SEC-W is this year.

But as Bacons Rebellion warns, 5 may be losable. I'll even up that to 6. And why not 7? Last I checked we lost to Missouri last year, who says this year is an automatic W?

I've said this every week, I don't know much about this team, except to say it's consistently inconsistent. Our running game will look great, then disappear. AA will look sharp, then get sacked 6 times. Our D will play well for 90% of the game, but in the other 10% we'll give up big plays that prove to be the difference. How can we possibly know which Hogs will be on the field?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: judgeroyswine on October 01, 2017, 10:20:16 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

You're wrong, but I applaud your optimism.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ben on October 01, 2017, 10:27:00 pm
LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak
LSU and Ole Miss are tossups since they are on the road. Auburn will beat us. Way better defense and offense is now clicking
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on October 01, 2017, 10:37:24 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
Ive been saying the same. This season is a repeat of 2015 except we didnt lose to a toledo type school
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: secfan30 on October 01, 2017, 10:39:33 pm


Swap SC and Auburn and maybe that duck can hunt.

Im with you and think this is possible.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GoHogs1091 on October 01, 2017, 10:53:07 pm
This is right on. So yeah, that means the OP is not out of his mind. We have 6 winnable games, and if Auburn had a bad afternoon somehow, 7. In saying that, I recognize I'm indirectly saying how 'down' the SEC-W is this year.

But as Bacons Rebellion warns, 5 may be losable. I'll even up that to 6. And why not 7? Last I checked we lost to Missouri last year, who says this year is an automatic W?

I've said this every week, I don't know much about this team, except to say it's consistently inconsistent. Our running game will look great, then disappear. AA will look sharp, then get sacked 6 times. Our D will play well for 90% of the game, but in the other 10% we'll give up big plays that prove to be the difference. How can we possibly know which Hogs will be on the field?

The by-product of poor head coaching.

Exacerbated by the protection/blanket of an excessive undeserved buyout.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Rzbakfromwaybak on October 02, 2017, 12:07:27 am

we are going to take Auburn to the woodshed

classic beating


Yeah, just like last year....
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Al Boarland on October 02, 2017, 03:39:28 am
Iím the King of the Optimists.  I also fully subscribe to the 1-0 mentality.  Letís worry about South Carolina.

Youíre just a fan. You can move forward or back across the schedule without consequence.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Deep Shoat on October 02, 2017, 04:54:32 am
Youíre just a fan.
At least one of you is...
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Al Boarland on October 02, 2017, 05:17:22 am
At least one of you is...

One of us has been accurate on the season thus far...
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Jimbob111 on October 02, 2017, 06:33:41 am


I get not liking the staff and ready for a change. However it is dumb to say the team will struggle to win one conference game. It's either agenda driven or you haven't been paying attention to the league at all.


Looking at it objectively Arkansas gets to 6 with a shot at 7.  Wins total. Not conference wins.

I've watched a lot of football this year. The problem is, I see other coaches changing their schemes to personnel, I see them changing what doesn't work, and I see an evolution of the teams as the season had progressed. I do not see that from the coaching staff at Arkansas.

There are so many things wrong with the way they are trying to put square pegs in a round hole. The players see it, too.

Look at their damn faces on the field and on the sideline. This team is broken. I think maybe, just maybe, they will squeak out a win against USCe or possibly Mizzou.  I think that because I watch other coaches adjust to what the opponent that week is doing, I see Beliema and compay doing the same, exact thing week after week.

No imagination, no adjustments, no ability to use talent, no chance against SEC competition.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: rhames on October 02, 2017, 07:30:16 am
I've watched a lot of football this year. The problem is, I see other coaches changing their schemes to personnel, I see them changing what doesn't work, and I see an evolution of the teams as the season had progressed. I do not see that from the coaching staff at Arkansas.

There are so many things wrong with the way they are trying to put square pegs in a round hole. The players see it, too.

Look at their damn faces on the field and on the sideline. This team is broken. I think maybe, just maybe, they will squeak out a win against USCe or possibly Mizzou.  I think that because I watch other coaches adjust to what the opponent that week is doing, I see Beliema and compay doing the same, exact thing week after week.

No imagination, no adjustments, no ability to use talent, no chance against SEC competition.


If you haven't seen the changes they have made on offense since the TCU game you aren't looking too hard

The defense needs a lot of work but never expected them to be world beaters learning the new scheme.

The interviews after the game didn't seems like a "broken team" to me 


What about the evolution of ole miss, lsu, and miss state this season? Mizzou? If you think those teams are just going to walk away with wins vs Arkanas you're not paying attention. Sorry. In the "lot of football you've watched" you don't seem to know much about the teams left or Arkansas's schedule. Getting to 8 is hard but it's stupid to say the team won't win one conference game, which is what I was reacting to in the post you quoted me on.


And I've been as critical of this staff as anyone.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: longtimeHogfan on October 02, 2017, 07:47:43 am
I have no meds sir

Well, that would explain a lot.....
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Al Boarland on October 02, 2017, 07:48:13 am
I've watched a lot of football this year. The problem is, I see other coaches changing their schemes to personnel, I see them changing what doesn't work, and I see an evolution of the teams as the season had progressed. I do not see that from the coaching staff at Arkansas.

There are so many things wrong with the way they are trying to put square pegs in a round hole. The players see it, too.

Look at their damn faces on the field and on the sideline. This team is broken. I think maybe, just maybe, they will squeak out a win against USCe or possibly Mizzou.  I think that because I watch other coaches adjust to what the opponent that week is doing, I see Beliema and compay doing the same, exact thing week after week.

No imagination, no adjustments, no ability to use talent, no chance against SEC competition.

Disagree. Enos has pulled out every trick in the book.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 02, 2017, 07:50:17 am
CBSSports now says Music City Bowl; Arkansas vs. Northwestern

https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: longtimeHogfan on October 02, 2017, 07:57:40 am
I see a reasonable chance for 'W's in all of the OP's picks but Auburn.  Way too much offense and way, way too much defense.  Put SC-east in their place and 8-5 isn't out-of-reach.  A lot turns on this Saturday's game.....
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 02, 2017, 08:11:35 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
I wish you would be correct. But when the team does not have the talent to achieve this, it's not possible. Clearly this team's talent level is WAY down. Coaching staff has never shown an ability to get more out of less either, so there is that too.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Lanny on October 02, 2017, 08:30:02 am
Defense is to weak to be above .500 in conference play, there are no play makers on defense
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 02, 2017, 08:31:55 am
Defense is to weak to be above .500 in conference play, there are no play makers on defense

That's pretty pathetic knowing we play Mizzou, Ole Miss, Miss St, LSU and South Carolina.  There's no reason we can't win 4 of those games this season. 
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: texas tush hog on October 02, 2017, 08:32:48 am
9-4 after the bowl

you're already assuming we will lose the bowl without knowing who it's against?

okay Glass Half Empty Guy


 Delusional, much.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: rljjr on October 02, 2017, 08:35:58 am
Defense is to weak to be above .500 in conference play, there are no play makers on defense

Well, i'm pretty sure you can say that about 11 other SEC Defenses right now, which gives us a decent shot. I'm also not so sure I agree about no playmakers on defense. Curl is raw but that guy can ball. K Rich is back and getting back into form. Sosa is a beast -- we just don't have enough of him. Color me reasonably optimistic for progression and growth during the season.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: cmphill87 on October 02, 2017, 08:45:07 am
I'll consider it by swapping the South Carolina road for an Auburn homecoming loss. No way we beat Aubbie. MSU will be 50/50...so knowing CBB, I'll call that a loss as well. That'll bring us to 7-5 overall and 500 in the SEC on a very down SEC year. Could have been very possible to be #2 in the west this year, but not now. On the bright side, I did see some young talent this past Saturday that could be a bright future with Kelley at the helm of the offense. I'm still not a CBB fan though. 7 & 5 on a down year is BAD!
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 02, 2017, 09:07:04 am
I'll consider it by swapping the South Carolina road for an Auburn homecoming loss. No way we beat Aubbie. MSU will be 50/50...so knowing CBB, I'll call that a loss as well. That'll bring us to 7-5 overall and 500 in the SEC on a very down SEC year. Could have been very possible to be #2 in the west this year, but not now. On the bright side, I did see some young talent this past Saturday that could be a bright future with Kelley at the helm of the offense. I'm still not a CBB fan though. 7 & 5 on a down year is BAD!

Kelley is nowhere near ready.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: cmphill87 on October 02, 2017, 11:42:29 am
Never said he was. I think he has a rocket of an arm and his sheer stature is impressive such as the way he bulldozed that poor dude from FAMU. He'll be fun to watch and I think he'll be good. Just an opinion.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GuvHog on October 02, 2017, 11:46:18 am
Never said he was. I think he has a rocket of an arm and his sheer stature is impressive such as the way he bulldozed that poor dude from FAMU. He'll be fun to watch and I think he'll be good. Just an opinion.

I've heard that the players refer to Kelley as "The Franchise". They don't do that for no reason.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 02, 2017, 01:03:49 pm
I have no meds sir

only vitamins and herbs and probiotic fermented veggies

That herb is now legal I believe......................
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Deep Shoat on October 02, 2017, 01:15:27 pm
One of us has been accurate on the season thus far...
The season is a 12 game (+ Bowl game) grind.  So far, we are 2 and 2.  Considering I called 8 or 9 wins, I am still very much in it. 
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 02, 2017, 02:20:47 pm
Hope you're right but imo aubbies gonna beat us like a rented mule. A rented mule that's been bad.
i agree, but i also think we win saturday, so, that 8 wins is possible
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: DeltaBoy on October 02, 2017, 02:27:43 pm
WOO PIG BEAT USCE
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 02, 2017, 02:38:08 pm
WOO PIG BEAT USCE

+1000

This would be a good solid win and could right the ship.

Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 02, 2017, 07:01:15 pm
LSU and Ole Miss are tossups since they are on the road. Auburn will beat us. Way better defense and offense is now clicking

We are going to destroy Auburn
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 02, 2017, 07:02:56 pm
LSU and Ole Miss are tossups since they are on the road. Auburn will beat us. Way better defense and offense is now clicking

But I looked at your post history

I see youíre a really really really big Malzahn propaganda guy
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 02, 2017, 07:05:48 pm
I wish you would be correct. But when the team does not have the talent to achieve this, it's not possible. Clearly this team's talent level is WAY down. Coaching staff has never shown an ability to get more out of less either, so there is that too.

Iíve heard of you

Please list your specific qualifications for judging P5 talent
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 02, 2017, 07:08:25 pm
Defense is to weak to be above .500 in conference play, there are no play makers on defense

Thatís not correct

DíJohn Harris is a playmaker for instance, who is obviously coached by a fraud

OLB coach is a fraud as well

Promote Wally Burnham before itís too late
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 02, 2017, 07:10:38 pm
Put Wally Burnham in charge of all four linebackers and promote Kiero Small to be his assistant

Do this today

Goodbye Hargreaves and Walker
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Darrell Royal's Floating Flaming Fulminating Spectral Head on October 02, 2017, 07:41:35 pm
Put Wally Burnham in charge of all four linebackers and promote Kiero Small to be his assistant

Do this today

Goodbye Hargreaves and Walker

Have to agree with this. Kiero needs a promotion and Hargreaves and Walker need to be working the concession stands.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 03, 2017, 06:40:47 am
But I looked at your post history

I see youíre a really really really big Malzahn propaganda guy

I think the correct term is Mazahnista's.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: JaketheSnake on October 03, 2017, 06:49:27 am
Disagree. Enos has pulled out every trick in the book.
Yep, you replied to blind hatred.  We have made a lot of changes to put us in a better position to make first downs and keep drives alive.  Wild hog and steamboat are apparently Enos and CBB being stubborn.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: riccoar on October 03, 2017, 06:50:18 am
8-4 is doable.  But outside of the two obvious projected losses, Bama and Auburn, it leaves ZERO room for error in all others.  Without weekly improvement, regardless of the opponent, this team will be lucky to be 6-6.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 03, 2017, 09:08:43 am
Iíve heard of you

Please list your specific qualifications for judging P5 talent
Do your own research, pal.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Muskliketusk on October 03, 2017, 09:15:28 am
Think you are right I wouldn't be shocked if we beat Barn though. Ole Miss, S Carolina, LSU, Mizzou and Miss State is all teams we oughta beat.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ben on October 03, 2017, 07:49:10 pm
We are going to destroy Auburn
When Arkansas loses, don't go hiding or making excuses.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ben on October 03, 2017, 07:51:14 pm
But I looked at your post history

I see youíre a really really really big Malzahn propaganda guy
And looking at your post history, you are a really really really delusional fan
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Hawgphat on October 03, 2017, 08:00:45 pm
We will finish 4-8.  Toilet Bowl.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: LZH on October 03, 2017, 08:45:47 pm
CBSSports now says Music City Bowl; Arkansas vs. Northwestern

https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

I would take it right now.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: texas tush hog on October 03, 2017, 09:56:26 pm
We are going to destroy Auburn


Certifiable.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: bondhue on October 03, 2017, 11:58:56 pm

Certifiable.
Johnnyjohn's brother.  Both batsquit crazy.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Razorbackers on October 04, 2017, 08:19:36 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

I'm a pretty big bright side guy, but this is crazy talk lol
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 04, 2017, 10:05:54 am
looks like page 3 here has uncovered some posters who will actually be rooting for Auburn against the Hogs
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hogcard1964 on October 04, 2017, 11:03:50 am
I would take it right now.

Yep

...and I'd make the trip for it.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: redleg on October 05, 2017, 11:13:33 am
The 2017 Hogs will be lucky to finish 6-6 and go to another meaningless Texas Bowl or Birmingham Bowl.
Bielema MUST MUST MUST win at least 9 games in the 2018 regular season to keep his job, if he still wants it by the end of next year.
Since his buyout drops by around half on Jan 1, 2019, he may look to leave Fayetteville.
Then again, if his 2018 Hogs win 9 or more in the regular season, he might feel that they have finally turned the corner, and he might want to stay.
Only time will tell.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: 12247 on October 05, 2017, 08:53:08 pm
We have already lost to the 3rd best team in the West when they were not 3rd best material.  Granted, we were close on them.  I honestly believe MSU and LSU are better than us and OM may be by the time we meet them.  MO catches us at a bad time annually and it has nothing to do with who is better.  MO has changed coaches so that may play to us.  Otherwise, MO likely beats us like they usually do.  We should beat CC, have a real shot to beat SC and OM.  Now we need another to get a bowl.  Will it be MO, LSU or MSU.  Tough situation.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: bondhue on October 07, 2017, 05:30:12 pm
I'm sticking to my prediction of 4-8.  Although it will probably be 3-9.  They need to have a bowl game for 4-8 teams that are not win at all cost programs.  Bielema is finished here, even if we sleepwalk around with him for 2 more years.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: MartinGit on October 07, 2017, 05:31:06 pm
5 - 7 with any luck - hopefully not 6 - 6 and have to go to a bowl
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 07, 2017, 05:32:51 pm
5 - 7 with any luck - hopefully not 6 - 6 and have to go to a bowl


Exactly where are you seeing 5 wins?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Grag T on October 07, 2017, 05:35:41 pm
8-4, HAHAAHAHAHA it'll take us 3 years to win 8 games!
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: MartinGit on October 07, 2017, 05:36:47 pm
Exactly where are you seeing 5 wins?

Ole Miss, C Carolina & Missouri - of course, I'm being pretty optimistic
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ex-Trumpet on October 07, 2017, 05:37:21 pm
Ole Miss, C Carolina & Missouri - of course, I'm being pretty optimistic

Yes.  Yes, you are.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: AFWarrior83 on October 07, 2017, 05:37:38 pm
We'll be lucky to limp to 6 wins during the regular season. USC is not a good team, but they are handling us today.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: TheEnemy on October 07, 2017, 05:39:48 pm
We'll be lucky to limp to 6 wins during the regular season. USC is not a good team, but they are handling us today.

No way we get 6 wins.

We will be lucky to get 5 wins.

We are bad at every facet of the game.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on October 07, 2017, 05:40:03 pm
There are maybe 2 wins left on the schedule. CC and maybe Misery. I'm afraid in year 5 this is what we get. No Bowl no 6-6.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: MartinGit on October 07, 2017, 05:41:29 pm
Yes.  Yes, you are.

At this point it would be ok with me if we lost to Ole Miss and went 4 - 8 so there's absolutely no chance of going to a bowl
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: atekido on October 07, 2017, 05:41:33 pm
Bahaha  you probably also think the Earth is flat.

5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 07, 2017, 05:50:55 pm
8-4
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 07, 2017, 05:53:12 pm
SC is bad. Very bad. And they are raping Arkansas.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on October 07, 2017, 06:22:42 pm
SC is bad. Very bad. And they are raping Arkansas.
About this we can agree.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: bondhue on October 07, 2017, 06:23:10 pm
8-4
Your avatar  says it all.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Pecos Hog on October 07, 2017, 06:25:59 pm
Been saying it since the FAMU game.   Lucky if we win 5.   
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: JackTNHogfan on October 07, 2017, 06:27:04 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

Reverse the overall record and replace Outback with Toilet and youíre right!
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: texas tush hog on October 07, 2017, 08:08:03 pm
8-4


Would you like to make book on that?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HAM ELLIOT on October 08, 2017, 01:55:31 am
This is one of the best threads ever... I've never laughed so hard.  8 and 4...  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha   My sides hurt!
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: code red on October 08, 2017, 06:37:09 am
I respect your high regard for Gus since it's obvious you are related to him through family
Care to respond to this quote this fine morning?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: code red on October 08, 2017, 06:38:32 am
Reverse the overall record and replace Outback with Toilet and youíre right!
Unfortunately we won't go 3-5.  Maybe 1-7.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: SemperFi on October 08, 2017, 06:55:24 am
4-8 with wins over Coastal Carolina (who cares) and the battle of the ages for last place in not just the West, but the entire SEC where we get our lone SEC win against Mizzou. Then again, this coaching staff and this team would need to overachieve to beat another bad team of equal talent. This SUCKS!
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 08, 2017, 07:32:27 am
LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak




so far, exactly as I said a week ago
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: MountieDawg on October 08, 2017, 07:36:26 am
You do know drugs are illegal???
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Poop Hoggy Hogg on October 08, 2017, 07:55:55 am
The only possible conference win left is Mizzou. Maybe Ole Miss, but that's it.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Snorts on October 08, 2017, 08:33:07 am
Playing as soft and effortless as we are now I see maybe beating CC and a possible split with Misery/Ole Piss.  4 wins, Baybee!

We could be looking at a 2 win season if the danger signs of a team completely quitting and shutting it down come to fruition. 

Our guys wont bite a biscuit right now, I'm afraid.  Something is going on.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: BrianG on October 08, 2017, 08:38:56 am
Isn't Auburn the athletic department where the coaches have just as many off the field legal incidents as the players do?

Not at all.  So either you are stupid or a liar.  Or both.  I will let you pick.   Auburn actually has a coaching staff and HC that in their worst years are better than what we have and in  their best play for NC.  But hey not good enough for this dumbass fan base.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Etowah on October 08, 2017, 09:22:22 am
I thought we would roll over a very mediocre to bad south Carolina team.

There are no guaranteed wins left on the schedule based on what I witnessed yesterday.

Missouri looked at least as good or better than we did.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 08, 2017, 09:56:57 am
I thought we would roll over a very mediocre to bad south Carolina team.

There are no guaranteed wins left on the schedule based on what I witnessed yesterday.

Missouri looked at least as good or better than we did.
So did Vegas. I heard Arkansas was favored yesterday. I predicted a SC win so I was right and Vegas was wrong.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GTOWNHOG on October 08, 2017, 10:15:35 am
I thought we would roll over a very mediocre to bad south Carolina team.

There are no guaranteed wins left on the schedule based on what I witnessed yesterday.

Missouri looked at least as good or better than we did.


Correct.  2-3 currently with two losses coming up! 2-5 going in to the Ole Miss game in Oxford.  The only "W" that I see is Coastal Carolina.  Of course, we should win one of the three against Ole Miss, MS State or Mizzou.  Final record will be 4-8 or 5-7.   Another stellar year for Mr. Bielema and our HOGS.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoopS on October 08, 2017, 10:41:46 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
look. I thought you all knew he was dyslexic. Geez.

All he was saying was we will finish 4-8 and will just have to gather out back and watch bowl games together. Not sure whatís got you all worked up. It was a friendly gesture and Iím gonna RSVP to go to Wardís and watch bowl games. RSVP OF 5. Ty
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: 1highhog on October 09, 2017, 04:12:00 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl

Still sticking with the Outback Bowl?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 09, 2017, 04:15:15 am
Still sticking with the Outback Bowl?

Not sure about him but I'm thinking outhouse bowl.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Kneph13 on October 09, 2017, 04:30:05 am
I hear there is a new Bowl, the Kohler Toilet Bowl and they are gnashing their teeth for an SEC team.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: EulessHog on October 09, 2017, 05:20:33 am
I posted that we need to start 5-O a long time ago (thread long since deleted) or we were going to be in a world of hurt. 

HV really needs to do a thorough self-examination.  Otherwise, broke fools like me...
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Al Boarland on October 09, 2017, 05:30:32 am
Any attempt to pick the remaining schedule has to been done understanding the mental state of the team after these next two weeks. Can the leadership on the team hold them together? Will the seniors even care knowing their season is practically over?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Kneph13 on October 09, 2017, 05:46:06 am
We will lose to Bama and Auburn.

We should beat Ole Miss but after USCe I am not too sure about this one.

Coastal Carolina should be another New Mexico State type of game.

We could win at LSU we play them pretty well.

Mississippi State is going to beat us at our own game.

We haven't faired well against Mizzou but we are due, I think we win this one.

I say we go 5-7.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Al Boarland on October 09, 2017, 06:04:31 am
We will lose to Bama and Auburn.

We should beat Ole Miss but after USCe I am not too sure about this one.

Coastal Carolina should be another New Mexico State type of game.

We could win at LSU we play them pretty well.

Mississippi State is going to beat us at our own game.

We haven't faired well against Mizzou but we are due, I think we win this one.

I say we go 5-7.

Can we stop with the ďwe are dueĒ?

Were we due to beat A&M?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Kneph13 on October 09, 2017, 06:09:08 am
Can we stop with the we are due?

Weíre we due to beat A&M?

You are right, I was being hopeful.  I should know better ;)
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Iwastherein1969 on October 09, 2017, 06:18:13 am
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
.....     
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: hoghearted on October 09, 2017, 06:36:26 am
Any attempt to pick the remaining schedule has to been done understanding the mental state of the team after these next two weeks. Can the leadership on the team hold them together? Will the seniors even care knowing their season is practically over?

leadership? What leadership? Where has it been?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 09, 2017, 09:40:14 am
leadership? What leadership? Where has it been?
Leadership?  Don't talk about leadership. You kidding me? Leadership?  I just hope we can win a game.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Kneph13 on October 09, 2017, 09:53:54 am
Leadership?  Don't talk about leadership. You kidding me? Leadership?  I just hope we can win a game.

LoL, love the Jim Mora reference!
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 09, 2017, 10:43:08 am
Still sticking with the Outback Bowl?

Of course not, but am I allowed to still have faith in the kids playing the game?  :D

The ones actually on the field?  :D

Who causes fumbles on kickoff? Not the head coach
Who makes proper reads to pull a pick six? Not the linebacker coach
Who puts his head down and runs smack over would-be tacklers? Not the OC

 ;)
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: texas tush hog on October 09, 2017, 10:47:39 am
Still sticking with the Outback Bowl?

He meant the Outhouse Bowl.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Redhogs on October 09, 2017, 10:47:49 am
Of course not, but am I allowed to still have faith in the kids playing the game?  :D

The ones actually on the field?  :D

Who causes fumbles on kickoff? Not the head coach
Who makes proper reads to pull a pick six? Not the linebacker coach
Who puts his head down and runs smack over would-be tacklers? Not the OC

 ;)
They 18-20 year old kids with no leader and piss poor coaching...what do you expect, this is the result. Nothing to do with faith.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: dhizzle on October 09, 2017, 11:15:38 am
No, seriously what happens if he wins six games? Ole Miss, LSU, Missouri, and Coastal are winnable. I didn't think they would win 8 games when they lost to Toledo and they did. If he wins 6 then 7 with a bowl game win, Coach B will definitely be here next season. 
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Ward on October 09, 2017, 11:16:52 am
They 18-20 year old kids with no leader and piss poor coaching...what do you expect, this is the result. Nothing to do with faith.

my faith in the kids still playing the game this season far exceeds your ability to comprehend what it means for those kids to decide to win
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Inhogswetrust on October 09, 2017, 11:19:48 am
Not sure about him but I'm thinking outhouse bowl.

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He meant the Outhouse Bowl.
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Stealing my thunder?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: 1highhog on October 09, 2017, 02:35:40 pm
Of course not, but am I allowed to still have faith in the kids playing the game?  :D

The ones actually on the field?  :D

Who causes fumbles on kickoff? Not the head coach
Who makes proper reads to pull a pick six? Not the linebacker coach
Who puts his head down and runs smack over would-be tacklers? Not the OC

 ;)

So are you going to put the blame of these losses on the players, these 18-23 year old kids?  What we've been seeing on the field is the result from Piss poor leadership and coaching, when these players continually get beat down they are going to give in, especially when there coach starts to throw them under the bus, the same Coach that recruited them.  I tell you right now, we need more talent on the team, that is true, especially on the Oline and linebackers and defensive line to.  But, if the right coach was hired, next year this team could win 9 games, I truly believe that.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Mr Jade on October 10, 2017, 12:01:36 pm
Of course not...

So you now think that 8-4 is out of reach?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Redhogs on October 10, 2017, 12:19:38 pm
my faith in the kids still playing the game this season far exceeds your ability to comprehend what it means for those kids to decide to win
good grief...take about twisting yourself around a stripper's pole.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 10, 2017, 12:54:44 pm
good grief...take about twisting yourself around a stripper's pole.
You've been waiting a long time to find the right spot to use this line, haven't you? Be honest.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: Youngsta71701 on October 10, 2017, 03:10:02 pm
5-3 in conference

Looking at the Outback Bowl
Still believing this?
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: GTOWNHOG on October 14, 2017, 11:20:10 pm
Looking GOOD at 2-4, with Auburn coming up.  I see ONE "W" on the schedule ahead, 2 if we are lucky.  How about 4-8 amd NO BOWL????
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Ward on October 14, 2017, 11:23:55 pm
LSU

Mizzou

Miss State

Ole Miss

Auburn


we will lose the next two and be 2-4, then go on a 6 game win streak


just like I said
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Roaringboar on October 14, 2017, 11:26:16 pm

just like I said

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny.......
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: Roaringboar on October 14, 2017, 11:28:54 pm

just like I said

You do watch college football right.......
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 14, 2017, 11:35:54 pm
Looking GOOD at 2-4, with Auburn coming up.  I see ONE "W" on the schedule ahead, 2 if we are lucky.  How about 4-8 amd NO BOWL????
That is called a "full circle". 0-8 his first year in SEC games to 1-7 or 0-8 in SEC games in his 5th year.
Title: Re: We...will...finish...8-4 - Outback Bowl
Post by: EulessHog on October 15, 2017, 12:02:27 am
That is called a "full circle". 0-8 his first year in SEC games to 1-7 or 0-8 in SEC games in his 5th year.

I think I just found a line for my signature.
Title: Re: We will finish 8-4
Post by: bondhue on October 15, 2017, 01:08:01 am

we are going to take Auburn to the woodshed

classic beating
Your 353 posts came very quickly.  If I am not mistaken you started this thread for your first post.